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00:03:49I'm your host, Mark Basant.
00:03:51Welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and Tobago, our global viewers, and of course, our brothers and sisters in the Isles of Grenada.
00:03:59It's Friday, yep. It's the beginning of a long weekend where we celebrate our 60th anniversary as an independent nation.
00:04:08So no doubt, there are a lot of activities. We have the CPL cricket, the Knight Riders in action tonight against Barbados.
00:04:17And then on tomorrow, big one, we are going to be playing the Amazon Warriors, Guyana.
00:04:23And then on Monday, it's St. Kitts.
00:04:25And then on Wednesday, of course, the defending champion, St. Lucia King.
00:04:29So a lot of cricket to look forward to.
00:04:31And of course, other events, there's Pan on the Avenue on Saturday as well.
00:04:36And a host of independence events across Trinidad and Tobago on Sunday.
00:04:43And of course, you know, in keeping with the Trinidad and Tobago's police service anniversary, 70th anniversary for women, there's actually a parade as we speak going on now at the St. James Barracks.
00:04:58And I think it's supposed to go out a little bit onto the streets if memory serves me right.
00:05:03So, you know, definitely the women are going to be honored there.
00:05:06And, you know, it's co-hosting with me today.
00:05:09It's no stranger, of course, founder of the co-founder of the St. James Police Youth Club, Corporal Derek Shabadi.
00:05:17I thought you would have been opening the bowling later for the Knight Riders.
00:05:20No, no, no.
00:05:21I am the public relations officer for them.
00:05:23I motivate them.
00:05:24I give them a little talk, a little chat before.
00:05:27I see, I see.
00:05:28I give them the impetus to go out there and do Trinidad well.
00:05:31Right.
00:05:32Blessed independence weekend to you and yours, my brother.
00:05:35Yes, my friend.
00:05:36I trust that we'll be sharing the same seat up at Brannara.
00:05:40Well, I would hope so.
00:05:42I know you are VVIP.
00:05:43I don't know what's going on with me.
00:05:45But if we could train a word for me, I'd be grateful.
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00:05:48You know, boxes are very tight, you know.
00:05:50But, nevertheless, you know, it's always a good time to go there and be part of that crowd.
00:05:56And, you know, as we talk about crowds, you know, there are probably a lot of,
00:06:00a lot of your colleagues now gathered in St. James barracks as we celebrate the 70th anniversary of women in the police service.
00:06:07Julia, a very proud occasion for the Trinidad and Tobago police service as well as our female counterparts.
00:06:15Milestone.
00:06:16Milestone.
00:06:17Milestone.
00:06:18We feel honored that that woman 70 years ago joined the police service.
00:06:22I have been the beneficiary of having some of the best women police nurtured and talked to me.
00:06:28I'm grateful for being, you know, for being counsel and being the recipient of some of the best officers who have nurtured
00:06:37and have moved me into what I am today.
00:06:39Inspector Reed, Patsy Joseph, Samson Brown.
00:06:43You call the names.
00:06:44Yes.
00:06:45You know, excellent police officers.
00:06:46And I want to salute them.
00:06:47And I want to make the point that every female retiree entering the academy must know that they can accomplish being
00:06:56from a constable all the way up to a commissioner.
00:06:59And that is remarkable.
00:07:00And we just salute all the women who have trailblazed and do justice in terms of shoulder to shoulder,
00:07:07side to side.
00:07:08Every single unit in the police service.
00:07:11There is no special unit for females.
00:07:14You call the unit.
00:07:15We have women there.
00:07:16And they must be saluted.
00:07:17And we want to commend all officers who have done justice and as represent us at a female level.
00:07:23Congratulations.
00:07:24They are in order.
00:07:25Now, you talked about, you know, so many women in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
00:07:31Your interactions with them over the years.
00:07:34Who to you stands out most in your mind as being one of those persons that really inspired you and pushed you to a level that, you know, you got to where you are now?
00:07:45I think Inspector Reed.
00:07:47Inspector Mary Reed.
00:07:48I can remember when I joined the public affairs unit, well, the welfare, they called farewell just before the coup.
00:07:54Right.
00:07:55You know, and Sergeant Reed took me under her charge, care.
00:07:59And she really did justice.
00:08:01You know, afterwards I met Samson Brown, an absolutely beautiful human being.
00:08:05I met Assistant Commissioner Particle, who was a conservator at that time.
00:08:09Then I met Ma'am Archie when communications was at the worst.
00:08:14Ma'am Archie was doing excellent work with the media and the police.
00:08:18But Inspector Mary Reed, it would be, you know, it would be not nice to recognize the absolutely wonderful work that she has done.
00:08:27Nurtain, teaching me out to lecture, you know, going out there talking to young people.
00:08:32That woman, his boss, Borum Danson, she was in charge of the Aruka Police Club.
00:08:37They came first, second, third and fourth in Borum Danson.
00:08:41Any particular, you know, conversation that you had with her that stands out in your mind as to, you know, something that she told you that you remembered and you still use that as your launch pad or your inspiration today?
00:08:56Yes.
00:08:57Good education makes you shine, but good discipline makes you glitter.
00:09:02Wow.
00:09:03I never forget that when she mentioned that while your education is paramount, discipline must be the hallmark of who you are.
00:09:11She reminded me that doors will open for you if you have discipline.
00:09:15Sometimes you don't have a pass, but the way you walk, the way you stand, the way you sit, the way you speak, you know, people know that they can work with you.
00:09:24And therefore, I think it is absolutely imperative that we continue to allow all young people to understand that discipline is an important pillar in understanding character and, by extension, having a successful part.
00:09:38So I want to salute even all the officers who have gone and I know you showed me a photo with the seven officers in the first female wear.
00:09:48And I had to say wow to that and look how officers has, you know, evolved.
00:09:52Yeah, that whole dress, yeah, dress has evolved, you know, the look of the uniforms.
00:09:57Yes.
00:09:58It's now the Trinidad and Tobago police service, not the force anymore.
00:10:01So a lot has changed over the years.
00:10:03With pride.
00:10:04With pride, if you please.
00:10:05Of course.
00:10:06With pride.
00:10:07I got some photos.
00:10:08I was 14 to get some photos from the barracks where they were having this gala and, you know, the women really came out.
00:10:14Wow.
00:10:15They came out, you know, and I want to thank the commissioner police.
00:10:19I want to thank the organizing committee.
00:10:21Because you could say some days and that's it.
00:10:23But the funding and the committee that came together and said we must recognize our women police retired in the service and who is no one bought to do justice.
00:10:34We want to commend the organizing committee for really going out the way and saluting our women police.
00:10:40Certainly I know that in the coming days, maybe next Tuesday, we will show some of those, you know, some of those pictures from today's parade, videos even, and how some of these ladies are dressed.
00:10:53And you know these ladies, when they come out to these things, these gala events and so on, they are dressed in press.
00:10:58Yeah.
00:10:59Yeah.
00:11:00Nobody looks at me anymore.
00:11:01They look at the lady next to you.
00:11:02They say, who's that lady next to you?
00:11:04You know, but we, it is good when we can recognize our women.
00:11:08Yeah.
00:11:09Women are called the mullers of the universe.
00:11:11The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
00:11:13You know, there's an African, a Jamaican slang where they say they don't call you, they don't call you queen.
00:11:21Yeah.
00:11:22You know, and it'sā¦
00:11:23Empress.
00:11:24Empress, that's right.
00:11:25Yes.
00:11:26And it speaks volumes in terms of where we see our women.
00:11:29You know, so I want to commend the Trinabago police service and all women who came in did justice and transformed the police service and have earned the respect, not because of their beauty, but they have earned it because of their merit and, by extension, being of service to Trinabago.
00:11:48You, like several other officers who have been here over the last couple of weeks, have spoken rather glowingly of a lot of the women that would have influenced and inspired them during the beginnings in the Trinabago police service.
00:12:03And it speaks to that motto that we say, be kind, every man is a good woman.
00:12:09And, you know, there are times, of course, where we don't fully recognize how important the contribution of women are across the board, not just in the Trinabago police service, but as we strive and we continue to treat them equally.
00:12:25Yes.
00:12:26It is important that we also equally observe their significance, their contributions, and their importance inside of the Trinabago police service.
00:12:36And, of course, breaking that glass ceiling across other industries, across other jobs and other departments and so on.
00:12:43Oh, yes, because the status quo one time is that the police was a very male thing.
00:12:48And when women came in and said, no, no, you know, there's no gender bias here.
00:12:53And we had to go back to history, God made man and woman.
00:12:58You know, you made a point just now that any good man is a good woman behind.
00:13:03You want to put them at the side.
00:13:05You want to let them know that they are partners with us.
00:13:07Yes.
00:13:08You know, because at the end of the day, your left hand and your right hand works in concert with you.
00:13:12It doesn't, you know, it doesn't work conflict and run contrary.
00:13:16So we need to see women as a good partner.
00:13:19Someone you could look to the left, look to the right, they are there for you.
00:13:22So I think that in speaking in terms, I've lost count of the many conversations I had, the many times I was counsel, the many times they would guide me and say, no, no, no, you're going the wrong way.
00:13:35You know, at the age of 40, my parents died.
00:13:38I had to work plus go to school.
00:13:40And coming into the police service, you could understand the environment.
00:13:44Yeah.
00:13:45And when you see women officers that could have taken you and neutered you and put you on a particular path, they must be saluted.
00:13:52So to Sergeant Reed, Sam Simrong, Miss Patsy Joseph, Captain Weeks, you know, even now, the commissioner, the former commissioner of police, I know a sense as a sergeant, you know, and all the executive officers have known them very well.
00:14:07And they continue to say, officer, I mean, I don't have a relationship with them.
00:14:10Yeah.
00:14:11They say, you're doing a good work.
00:14:12Keep it up.
00:14:13Yeah.
00:14:14And that is, that speaks volumes.
00:14:15And I know that we are, we are heading into the long weekend, of course.
00:14:19And I just, I just want you to, to tell those persons who are using the nation's roadways and, and, and other partaking in other events to please exercise some precautions on the roadways and other safety measures.
00:14:32Oh Lord, citizens of Trin DeBago, those who are driving on the nation's road, we ask you please, be courteous, be respectful.
00:14:45You are sharing the road with children and, and, and other persons that, that, and we need to make sure that we're losing too many lives, too much of recklessness.
00:14:55There's no need to speed, there's no need to, you know, to feel that the road belongs to you.
00:15:01And we call on those who are recognizing reckless, pop them, let them know that they're being reckless.
00:15:06Yeah.
00:15:07So we call on citizens, please, you know, make sure it is a long weekend, wherever you're going, make sure and conduct yourself, you know, reflect that the road is one way, the care of each other is paramount.
00:15:19And we appeal to all those who have the, I know a lot of people have the cam, dash cam now.
00:15:25Yes, tape them, send the tape to us so that we can make them an example.
00:15:30Do not allow them, do not smile, do not remain quiet when you see reckless driving.
00:15:36You know, if you see a police officer a few miles, report to the officer, officer, there's a gentleman.
00:15:41It can only do justice, you'll be saving our life.
00:15:44And for those who in the car, and you see the driver being reckless as well, you tell the drivers, I need to come out of this vehicle now.
00:15:52I don't appreciate the way you're driving.
00:15:54My life is of value, and the others, could you put me out now?
00:15:58I bet you that driver would get a message.
00:16:00We need to send a strong message to reckless drivers.
00:16:04Thanks a lot for that message, Corporal Shabody.
00:16:07All right, moving along, of course, we've been talking about, you know, the seizure of guns in the nation, of course, and police continuing the exercises.
00:16:16And, you know, gun violence continues to raise ugly head.
00:16:20And there was an incident in the Rosilak area earlier today, a victim shot.
00:16:29Thankfully, he was shot and wounded.
00:16:31And, you know, that was him lying on the ground there.
00:16:35You saw earlier, police officers are responding on the scene.
00:16:40And we have, oh, this is the person that was shot, the main person.
00:16:46There was one on the floor, and then there's one in the vehicle, because it seems clear that somebody was a target in that vehicle.
00:16:55Yes.
00:16:56And you're seeing one of the injured persons there, so at least two persons.
00:16:59Likely one lying on the ground here, still, you know, still conscious and everything.
00:17:06And then there's one in the vehicle.
00:17:08So certainly some cause for concern there, Corporal Shabody.
00:17:11Yes.
00:17:12And that's why we appeal to people, if you see something, say something.
00:17:15And I can bet you, I'm not a betting man, but somebody have knowledge about that incident.
00:17:22There has to be some law-abiding citizen who would have information.
00:17:26And we ask them to call, call the police.
00:17:29You know, you don't have to give a name.
00:17:31Personally, the intelligence is paramount, because we need to get guns out of the hands of the criminal element and guns generally out of the community.
00:17:41It has no place in terms of the exchange of a simple conversation.
00:17:46People want to pull the gun.
00:17:48Insignificant argument.
00:17:50Yeah.
00:17:51Now, you will be amazed, totally flabbergasted to hear, what do you kill the man for, boy?
00:17:57Yeah.
00:17:58A simple discussion like that.
00:17:59We need to really teach people how to calm down, take it cool, you know, and use conflict resolution as one of their methodology in moving on.
00:18:10You know, two persons are going to say, boy, I disagree to agree with you respectfully, and move on.
00:18:17Yes.
00:18:18Clearly.
00:18:19All right.
00:18:20Moving on on a different note, of course.
00:18:22Today, the Commissioner of Police, Alistair Guevara, had a small promotion ceremony for at least nine police officers at the administration building of the TTPS in Port of Spain.
00:18:35The officers promoted were Senior Superintendent of Police Curtis Simmons, Senior Superintendent of Police Haripasad Ramnarain, Assistant Superintendent of Police JNL Alexis, Sergeant of Police Mukesh Ragbear, Sergeant of Police Curtis Appleby, Applewhite, sorry, Sergeant of Police Joel Barton, Corporal of Police Akil Alexander, Corporal of Police Cliff Leger, and Bandsman 2 Joseph Ramkison.
00:19:01Of course, the Commissioner told the small gathering, promotion in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service is not a reward, but responsibility.
00:19:10It is not a pat on the back, but a call to stand taller, speak clearer, and lead with a sharper purpose.
00:19:17You now carry the expectations of those you command, the scrutiny of those you serve, and the legacy of those who came before you.
00:19:25This ceremony is a statement that merit still matters, that patience, professionalism, and the principal conduct are not forgotten.
00:19:34You are here because you earned your promotion through the long road of service, and not through shortcuts.
00:19:41End quote, Commissioner.
00:19:42I could have sworn you, so you said Derek Chavali, Sergeant of Police.
00:19:47Let me double check this.
00:19:49Double check, please.
00:19:49Let me double check.
00:19:50I think there's a typo there.
00:19:51It might be, but I don't see it in this official release.
00:19:55Perhaps you will have to take it up with the Commissioner.
00:19:57Well, I certainly want to commend those are good men.
00:20:00I know a few names there well.
00:20:01Yes.
00:20:02Good officers, officers who go be all the call of duty.
00:20:05I talk about officers who are knowledgeable in the area, who, you know, come to you to pass from.
00:20:09They're not selfish.
00:20:10They do good police work, excellent, and they deserve it.
00:20:13And I tell officers all the time that promotion comes from God.
00:20:17You know, when you're promoted, you're promoted to do well and to supervise and to administrate and to ensure that you're under charges, benefit from your knowledge.
00:20:26So I want to personally commend them.
00:20:28I think it's a step in the right direction.
00:20:30And officers look forward to that.
00:20:31It's an impetus.
00:20:32It's a form of incentive that comes with being a police.
00:20:37And I want to say congratulations, especially to Mr. Simmons.
00:20:40I know him very well all the way in Kokoreet.
00:20:42We do good work with the Mokot Jumbies.
00:20:45That's a good man, excellent officer.
00:20:48And we go way back.
00:20:49And I want to personally commend him for going to the next level.
00:20:53And I wish him all the success and his colleagues as well.
00:20:57Yes.
00:20:57And the DCP for administration, Natasha George, reminded all the promoted officers that they needed to exhibit professionalism and objectivity.
00:21:06That's right.
00:21:07And it's one of the hallmark, one of the qualities that carries a distinction in terms of, you know, you're not biased, you're not malicious.
00:21:16You know, because you're an officer get away, you will, you know, you will deal with him, you will correct him and you move on.
00:21:22Yeah.
00:21:22It's a level of maturity.
00:21:23And we need that in the service.
00:21:24We need a lot of public relations.
00:21:26We need a lot of personal touch when members of the public come.
00:21:31They will be able to speak to them properly.
00:21:33All that is paramount as we continue to enhance the CTPS.
00:21:37We're on the right track with these officers who are promoted.
00:21:40Most certainly.
00:21:41All right.
00:21:41Let's take a quick look now at our headlines.
00:21:43All right.
00:22:10So those are some of the headlines over the last 24 hours.
00:22:13We're going to take a short break and we'll be back with more.
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00:24:45Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
00:24:58I'm your host, Mark Besson, joined today by co-founder of the St. James Police Youth Club, Corporal Derek Shabody.
00:25:04And, of course, as we continue to honor those trailblazing women in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
00:25:11we want to honor a lady that first held the rank of Commissioner of Police,
00:25:16retired Commissioner Eerla Christopher-Hairwood.
00:25:21Let's take a look.
00:25:21I am Eerla Herrwood-Christopher, Regimental No. 11663, retired Commissioner of Police.
00:25:40I enlisted in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service on the 19th of April, 1982, and retired on the 14th of May, 2025.
00:25:52I thank the organizers of this event for the invitation to share this greeting with you
00:25:57as we celebrate the 70th anniversary of women in the TTPS.
00:26:0370 years is the lifespan given to mankind, 3 score and 10,
00:26:09and 70 years in the life of an institution is a very long time.
00:26:14The TTPS would have experienced several incarnations
00:26:18and would have survived several eras and several generations.
00:26:24Women in the service would, therefore, have endured the many eras of the service over the 70 years.
00:26:30And they did so, not incidentally,
00:26:33but they were able to do so because they epitomized the essential qualities of competence,
00:26:41perseverance, diligence, persistence,
00:26:44and the confidence and audacity to measure up and stand heads and shoulders with their male counterparts.
00:26:54In every era, we have had women as pioneers,
00:26:58each one creating a more distinct path for other women to follow.
00:27:03I am happy as your 19th Commissioner of Police
00:27:07and first female Commissioner of Police
00:27:10to be able to identify with those pioneering women
00:27:14who provided motivation and inspiration
00:27:17on whose shoulder I stood
00:27:20and whose good examples I always sought to emulate.
00:27:24It was my distinct pleasure
00:27:26to have served the organization
00:27:28for 43 of those 70 years,
00:27:33moving through every rank to the highest level as Commissioner,
00:27:37an achievement I share with you.
00:27:39On this occasion of the 70th anniversary of Women's Police,
00:27:43I take this opportunity to salute all our retired female officers
00:27:48for your pioneering work in laying a solid foundation for female achievement.
00:27:55And to our women in active service,
00:27:58I congratulate you on your continuing efforts
00:28:00and extend very best wishes to all of you
00:28:04as you continue to represent,
00:28:06working diligently to raise the standards
00:28:10and keep the profile of women police flying high.
00:28:14Happy 70th anniversary, ladies.
00:28:17God bless you.
00:28:18Retired Commissioner of Police
00:28:30here with Christopher there.
00:28:32Rather nice, long piece
00:28:34talking and seeing the evolution
00:28:36of her career there
00:28:38from various stages or eras,
00:28:42of course,
00:28:42but nevertheless, you know,
00:28:44a very proud moment
00:28:45when a woman took the helm for a bit
00:28:49and the 19th Commissioner
00:28:51of Trinidad and Tobago
00:28:53and the first female.
00:28:55Yes.
00:28:56I've known Missy, I would.
00:28:58We're in the HR department,
00:28:59she's a sergeant,
00:29:00and very reserved,
00:29:01very quiet,
00:29:03very affable, you know.
00:29:04I was encouraging,
00:29:06so she needs to be,
00:29:06we need to endorse
00:29:09and that other woman police
00:29:10who are looking on.
00:29:12This is something that can incite you.
00:29:15It is a part of the growth
00:29:18of the police service.
00:29:19There's room,
00:29:20and of course,
00:29:21we need to commend Missy,
00:29:22a word for all that she has provided
00:29:24and by extension,
00:29:26as she indicated,
00:29:27going up,
00:29:28meeting other officers
00:29:29has contributed
00:29:30to where she is today.
00:29:31And other officers looking on,
00:29:33I think it is an absolute honor
00:29:35that women can celebrate
00:29:38not just 70 years,
00:29:40but also women
00:29:41who also rise to the top,
00:29:43to the head.
00:29:43that is an important achievement
00:29:46and we need to commend
00:29:48all those who have put together
00:29:50this particular piece,
00:29:50an excellent piece.
00:29:52I think it should be useful
00:29:53not just honoring women,
00:29:55but also as an excellent PR
00:29:57for women who probably
00:29:59are lost and looking,
00:30:01still trying to find a way.
00:30:02It is a form of motivation
00:30:03because girls are getting involved
00:30:05in gangs.
00:30:06Girls are getting involved.
00:30:07You see women
00:30:08cannot find a way
00:30:09and you need more women
00:30:10with stature,
00:30:11more women with class.
00:30:12to step up
00:30:13and come to the plate
00:30:14and speak to our young girls.
00:30:16And that video,
00:30:17I sure will do justice
00:30:18in terms of opening
00:30:19their appetite
00:30:20and allowing girls
00:30:21that they can find a place
00:30:22in the trying to build
00:30:23a police service,
00:30:24the defense force,
00:30:25the army,
00:30:26the regiment,
00:30:26the fire.
00:30:27There is a place
00:30:28for women.
00:30:29Right?
00:30:30All right.
00:30:31I think it is time to...
00:30:32Salute.
00:30:32I know you were trying
00:30:36to teach me the...
00:30:37Yes, yes.
00:30:37Longest way up.
00:30:38Longest way up.
00:30:39Shortest way down.
00:30:40Shortest way down.
00:30:41Okay.
00:30:42All right.
00:30:43So, you know,
00:30:43I'm in a really proud moment
00:30:44there, you know,
00:30:45for a retired
00:30:47commissioner of police.
00:30:48We're here with Christopher
00:30:49being the first
00:30:50female commissioner
00:30:52of police
00:30:53and the 19th
00:30:54that the country saw.
00:30:55So, yeah.
00:31:00We have
00:31:01a community justice clinic
00:31:03this weekend
00:31:04on August 30th
00:31:05in the southern division
00:31:07of Princess Tongue.
00:31:08You know,
00:31:08you're getting free advice
00:31:10on domestic violence,
00:31:11matrimonial grievances,
00:31:13divorce,
00:31:14custody access,
00:31:15maintenance.
00:31:16Please take,
00:31:18you know,
00:31:19the opportunity
00:31:21to go down there.
00:31:22It's not a very long thing.
00:31:23It's between the hours
00:31:24of eight
00:31:24and one p.m.
00:31:26at the St. Stephen's
00:31:27and Lincoln Church Hall
00:31:28High Street,
00:31:29Princess Tongue,
00:31:29which is in the heart
00:31:30of Princess Tongue
00:31:31for all those who know.
00:31:34And, you know,
00:31:34you don't have to go
00:31:35and spend all five hours,
00:31:37but perhaps pop in
00:31:38for an hour,
00:31:39maybe an hour and a half.
00:31:40You might have something
00:31:41that you're troubled with
00:31:43or you might need
00:31:43some advice.
00:31:44You're getting free
00:31:45legal advice
00:31:46to speak to attorneys
00:31:47on private and civil matters.
00:31:49Yes.
00:31:50And the committee policing
00:31:51or in their policing
00:31:52should be proud
00:31:53of this initiative
00:31:54and we have hosted
00:31:55a few while
00:31:56in Western Vision
00:31:56and I'm telling you,
00:31:57lawyers are well learned,
00:31:59you know,
00:32:00in terms of confidentiality,
00:32:02in terms of how
00:32:03they conduct their affairs,
00:32:04the setup,
00:32:05everything is done
00:32:06with a sense of,
00:32:08okay,
00:32:09the people know that
00:32:10whatever information
00:32:11there,
00:32:12and there's a follow-up after.
00:32:13So it's not like
00:32:14a talk shop.
00:32:15Yeah.
00:32:15So that they have
00:32:16the attorney name,
00:32:17the attorney will then
00:32:18give them additional information
00:32:19and there's a follow-up
00:32:21and a follow-through
00:32:21in terms of ensuring
00:32:23that some of the cases
00:32:24is attended to.
00:32:27I think we need more of it.
00:32:28Yeah.
00:32:29Because people feel
00:32:30sometimes that going
00:32:31to a lawyer
00:32:31is tens of thousands
00:32:32of dollars
00:32:33and we are saying
00:32:34this is free.
00:32:35And I certainly want
00:32:35to piggyback on
00:32:36one of your utterance
00:32:38that we must maximize
00:32:39use of these projects.
00:32:41Those who are,
00:32:42you know,
00:32:43lower class,
00:32:44bottom class,
00:32:44please come out,
00:32:46work with the documents,
00:32:48you know,
00:32:48and these lawyers
00:32:49have made themselves
00:32:50available to speak
00:32:51and to educate
00:32:52and to advise you
00:32:54and it can only go well.
00:32:56So I want to commend
00:32:56the community-oriented police,
00:32:59senior superintendent Pierre
00:33:00who was the brainchild
00:33:01behind it,
00:33:02along with some
00:33:03of the legal
00:33:03and I think
00:33:05it can only expand.
00:33:07Yeah.
00:33:07And what we need now
00:33:08is to get some testimonies
00:33:09from people
00:33:10who have benefited
00:33:11from this service
00:33:13and saying,
00:33:13you know,
00:33:13I want to thank,
00:33:15because they need
00:33:16to show appreciation
00:33:16and say,
00:33:17I want to thank
00:33:17the legal department
00:33:18for coming on board.
00:33:20I'm grateful
00:33:20this is what happened to me.
00:33:21Well, that's actually
00:33:22a good idea
00:33:22and I don't want to forget
00:33:23of course,
00:33:24on tomorrow as well,
00:33:25it's the North Eastern Division.
00:33:28So if you're in that area,
00:33:30you can go to the Barrett Area,
00:33:31South Secondary School,
00:33:333rd Avenue Barrett Area,
00:33:34same time as the one
00:33:36in Princess Tongue,
00:33:368 a.m.
00:33:37to 1 p.m.
00:33:38You can pop in
00:33:39for an hour and a half
00:33:40if you have any issues,
00:33:42as I said,
00:33:43outlining the following
00:33:44domestic violence,
00:33:45matrimonial grievances,
00:33:46divorce,
00:33:47custody access,
00:33:48maintenance,
00:33:49go out there
00:33:50and seek the advice
00:33:51of these attorneys,
00:33:52these persons
00:33:53who are versed in the law
00:33:54and can give you guidance
00:33:55and can give you the right
00:33:57advice if needed
00:34:00how to proceed
00:34:01with a particular
00:34:02circumstance or situation.
00:34:03That's right.
00:34:04That's right.
00:34:05I can't go wrong
00:34:06and I think that
00:34:07we need to commend
00:34:08the lawyers
00:34:09who avail themselves
00:34:11and make themselves
00:34:11available free of charge.
00:34:13We need to also
00:34:14salute them
00:34:14and thank them
00:34:16for really doing
00:34:17your mind service,
00:34:18being a good citizen
00:34:19and ensuring
00:34:20that members
00:34:21of the public
00:34:21benefit from legal advice
00:34:23because people are advising
00:34:24and all,
00:34:25but are you getting
00:34:25the right kind of advice?
00:34:27Yeah.
00:34:27Some people are setting you up.
00:34:29You understand?
00:34:29And therefore,
00:34:30it is always good
00:34:30to get a second opinion
00:34:31and this program
00:34:33will certainly put you
00:34:34on a particular part
00:34:35where you are much more informed.
00:34:37All right.
00:34:37We just want to remind you
00:34:38of the numbers
00:34:39to call 623-1711
00:34:42extensions 1996
00:34:43and 1997
00:34:46so you can have your say
00:34:48a little later
00:34:48in the program
00:34:49and I know that you wanted
00:34:51to make some mention.
00:34:52We don't have a lot of time
00:34:53but actually,
00:34:55we're going to go to a break
00:34:56and when we come back,
00:34:56we'll talk about that.
00:34:57All right?
00:34:58We're going to take a short break
00:34:59and we'll be back.
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00:38:14Welcome back to Beyond the Tape. I'm your host, Mark Besson, joined today by the co-founder of the St. James Police Youth Club, Corporal Derek Chabody.
00:38:26And it's about that time, yeah, for your favorite segment, Voice of the People in Chaguanas. Let's go.
00:38:44And what is your thoughts on school violence?
00:39:04School violence, I think they need to cramp up on some of the children in school because sometimes the violence gets out of hand.
00:39:11We'll see it on TikTok, we'll see it on social media.
00:39:13Right.
00:39:14And it'll be out of hand sometimes.
00:39:15You think school should play a role in crime prevention?
00:39:18Yeah.
00:39:19A lot more discipline in school, a lot more rules, a lot more penalties for some of the students.
00:39:27And I'm holding it to the field.
00:39:28Do you feel safe at home, at work, in general?
00:39:32Yeah, well, with the environment being here, I feel a little safe.
00:39:35Right.
00:39:36And how do you think communities could work together to reduce crime?
00:39:41A little more communication.
00:39:43A little more neighborhood love in the community.
00:39:47Right.
00:39:48Last question.
00:39:48What do you think makes people want to do crime, or attracts them to commit crimes?
00:39:54I guess, how do they say it?
00:39:56When people are lazy and they want things easy, yeah, and they watch what other people have, they feel they can accomplish things overnight.
00:40:03Do you think there's a correlation between poverty and crime?
00:40:07I wouldn't say poverty and crime.
00:40:09I would say lazy people and crime.
00:40:14Thank you very much.
00:40:16Nice.
00:40:16Voice of the people, school violence, right up your alleyway.
00:40:25Yes, I support that doubles man.
00:40:27In fact, I know the area very well.
00:40:29I live five years from Shagones.
00:40:33Sometimes I have duties there.
00:40:34I have to sit in the car and wait until my wife goes to the market.
00:40:37So I'm quite familiar with that space.
00:40:40And the gentleman is on point.
00:40:42I want to commend him.
00:40:43There is a lot of factors that contribute, but laziness.
00:40:47People are looking for an easy way out.
00:40:49Well said.
00:40:50You know, a lot of people are looking for others to blame and justify.
00:40:54But they don't want to wake up in the morning.
00:40:57Listen to me.
00:40:58I see people wake up two, three in the morning and playing in the market looking for it, looking for honest dollar.
00:41:07You understand?
00:41:07And they need to be commended for that.
00:41:10While some, they don't care.
00:41:13I mean, they say, after you have made your earnings, they're looking to go and pounce on you.
00:41:17And they need to be an example.
00:41:19The double span is well said.
00:41:22And I think they point out a lot of how we raise our children, not waking up, understanding that you have to contribute by making up your bed, by saying good morning.
00:41:34You know, there are a lot of things that we have lost in terms of raising our children.
00:41:38And that's why they were easy out.
00:41:40And children are the sum total of the adults, too, you know, because the adults are the ones who have passed from that kind of mediocrity and that kind of behavior.
00:41:49So I think that violence starts at home and then continues into the community.
00:41:56And then all other institutions are affected, like the schools, et cetera.
00:42:00So when you see a child that is violent and you can negate that, you will understand that sometimes the home is violent.
00:42:06The child comes from a toxic environment, some of the community's environment.
00:42:11Every two words in adult say is violent.
00:42:15All right.
00:42:16Well said, Corporal Shabadi.
00:42:17We have our first call on the line.
00:42:19Caller, good evening.
00:42:20Welcome to be on the tape.
00:42:22Yes, hi.
00:42:22Good day, sir.
00:42:23How are you today?
00:42:24We are well, sir.
00:42:25How are you?
00:42:27Yes, I am okay.
00:42:28I am trying to get a word to the corporal.
00:42:32Go ahead.
00:42:33Blessings to you.
00:42:33He's listening.
00:42:34Corporal, good afternoon.
00:42:36I am just wanted to make a recommendation with your contribution to trying to guide the youth.
00:42:43I would like to recommend, if I'm not too late, that you probably could get some legal representation in your delivery of guidance,
00:42:57some legal and medical representation.
00:43:00So, probably some legal and medical personnel in your team.
00:43:06That's something that you could probably look into.
00:43:08Secondly, I would like to consider endorsing the reopening of youth camps.
00:43:17I am a member of youth camps from a past era, and it has changed my life.
00:43:26And I am saying that that entity is something that we should possibly reenter, using the military and the police to actually go in there and guide the minds of young ones and introduce the trade and just general guidance using, I want to say, militant or military-type atmosphere.
00:43:52Using that kind of, I want to say force, but that kind of discipline.
00:43:58It helped me a lot, and I think you should probably look into it, trying to reinstate doors, open back the youth camps.
00:44:08I am a product of the Shagrammer's youth camp.
00:44:10And I would also like to be able to get on board with your team.
00:44:15I am a qualified photographer, videographer.
00:44:20I am about four or five years away from retirement, and I would like to find a product or project that I could get into.
00:44:29And I think what you are doing is very useful, and I would like to get into that.
00:44:34All right, thanks a lot so much, caller, Corporal Shavadi.
00:44:40Yeah, certainly, if you want, you can contact me at 296-1218.
00:44:46I will be able to establish a discussion with you and probably discuss something for photography.
00:44:52It's an excellent skill set that we could provide for the young people.
00:44:56You see that they are using the camera, and some are using it for the wrong things and the right things, but it's a beautiful skill set.
00:45:02And I think that bringing you on board with the knowledge and expertise will certainly do justice.
00:45:07I am on record, and Mr. Barsan can tell you, that we have appealed for the MyLat, MyPath program to be decentralized.
00:45:17We felt that one MyLat program somewhere in Aruka, while we salute them, is not adequately supplying the services of the young people.
00:45:27And therefore, we also recommend that some of the camps be converted into a MyLat type of concept.
00:45:34We're also, on record, talking about a female MyLat for the girls, because we've seen that the girls are becoming very aggressive.
00:45:42We've seen that the girls are having their share of violence as well.
00:45:46And we should be, instead of being reactive, we should be proactive.
00:45:49So we have appealed on this program that, you know, the government and, by extension, the private sector should fast-track, multiply, in fact,
00:46:00in terms of assisting and establishing a MyLat program that has been decentralized.
00:46:06One for Tobago.
00:46:06I don't think that children from Tobago should be coming all the way to Trinidad to be part of MyLat.
00:46:11You follow?
00:46:11So we have been making that kind of claim and trying to ensure that the government and my extension, those in authority,
00:46:21that sense could prevail and allow these programs to them from strength to strength.
00:46:28All right.
00:46:28Thanks so much for that contribution, Corporal.
00:46:30We have another call on the line.
00:46:32Caller, good evening.
00:46:34Hi.
00:46:34Good evening.
00:46:35I am calling.
00:46:37I just want to start by the conversation in regards to loud music emanation from the bars that are in the residential areas.
00:46:46I know that when Marlon and Mr. Alexander were there, they would have had a lot of calls coming in regarding that.
00:46:54And I realized that has started out not based on it's not there, it's just that no one is talking about it because no one is doing anything about it.
00:47:03Because they call the police, they make you feel like if you are the person in the wrong and the AMA, well, I don't know.
00:47:11I don't know if they're still in existence anymore.
00:47:14And it's just, you know, it's just so annoying that this is still going on and no one is saying anything about it with regards to the government.
00:47:23They would have spoken about it in their manifesto, but I'm not hearing anything again.
00:47:29So I just want to know what is being done or anything at all is being done about these loud music.
00:47:36You complain and no one takes you on.
00:47:39So is there something that you all need to be aware of?
00:47:42And it's kind of a silent killer because people working all week and, you know, they have to come home to these types of annoyances.
00:47:52So I'm just letting y'all know that it's something that is out there and it needs to be brought up.
00:47:58You know, we all need to investigate that.
00:48:01Okay?
00:48:03All right, caller, thanks so much.
00:48:05And I have to tell you, callers, that, you know, that those calls have not stopped.
00:48:09Or rather, over the last few months, we've had several persons calling into the program,
00:48:15expressing their concerns in various areas across Trinidad and Tobago.
00:48:21And I know ESP Pitt and other officers have spoken about some legislation that is coming.
00:48:26Of course, you know, Sergeant Zahir Ali has spoken about it.
00:48:31You have spoken about it.
00:48:32And other officers who were on this program over the last several months.
00:48:36So it's a perennial thing that is still ongoing.
00:48:39And, of course, the caller needs some kind of redress.
00:48:43And I know that the police is working with some kind of legal framework, sorry,
00:48:48that will complement the EMA coming soon, I hope.
00:48:51Yes, and we need to commend the callers.
00:48:53They continue to keep it on the front burner.
00:48:56And that is what is effective in saying, listen, what's going on with this act?
00:49:01What's going on with this bill?
00:49:03Is there any discussion taking place?
00:49:06What is the progress made?
00:49:08I think that the callers need to be commended for that because they keep the people informed
00:49:12and, by extension, the legislation and the persons who are instrumental in drafting that particular law.
00:49:21It is really unfortunate.
00:49:22I know it is really tough coming home and you're in loud music and you're called.
00:49:27Sometimes you're stationed and the officers make a commitment to come.
00:49:30But you need to go further.
00:49:31You need to meet with your senior soupe.
00:49:32You see, all these meetings we have in Tongue meetings,
00:49:35you go and you have a meeting with your senior soupe.
00:49:37You know, have an audience with them and let them know that, listen,
00:49:40while it is imperative, we also have a petition.
00:49:45So you have several people signing saying we would like this matter to be addressed
00:49:49because it is really unfortunate that you don't have a sense of peace when you reach at home.
00:49:55Certainly.
00:49:56All right, we're going to take a short break.
00:49:58And when we come back, we'll take more of your calls.
00:50:00Stay with us.
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00:51:57Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
00:52:12I'm your host, Mark Bassan, joined today by co-founder of the St. James Police Youth Club,
00:52:18Corporal Derek Chabody.
00:52:20And I think we have another caller on the line.
00:52:23Caller, good evening.
00:52:24Welcome to Beyond the Tape.
00:52:24Hi, good evening, Mr. Bassan, and good evening, Corporal Chabody.
00:52:31Caller, you need to just lower your volume on your television.
00:52:33You're getting a little feedback.
00:52:34Thanks.
00:52:35Yeah.
00:52:36Yeah.
00:52:37Well, actually, it's on mute.
00:52:38So, it'll be from my end.
00:52:40Okay.
00:52:40As I was thinking about contribution, I was listening to exactly what you were expressing, Mr. Bassan,
00:52:47relevant to the person who just called that, you know, persons have been experiencing issues in the communities for quite some time.
00:52:58And I would kind of underline the phrase for quite some time.
00:53:03I mean, you know, persons are also dealing with issues in their workplaces, you know, discrimination.
00:53:10And I know that mightn't be totally in the context of national security, but it definitely is a contributing factor to societal issues on the whole.
00:53:21So, maybe definitely, as the police organization, you all could definitely lead to the Ministry of Labor and see what's going on.
00:53:30Because persons are dealing with discrimination, victimization, different forms of harassment, and even wrongful termination.
00:53:39So, what is a person to do in situations like those?
00:53:44So, I sincerely hope, you know, you guys continue to do the good work to assist with, you know, peace and harmony and a comfortable, happy Trinidad and Tobago.
00:53:56So, please keep up the good work because we need assistance, you know, persons in our issues.
00:54:02Thanks for the time.
00:54:03Yes.
00:54:04Yeah.
00:54:05All right.
00:54:05That's a very important point.
00:54:07Very, very.
00:54:08Very.
00:54:08The psyche of the human being and the psyche of the workplace environment and what you prepare them is absolutely imperative because that is a spin-off.
00:54:17When you go home, sometimes those are the triggers and, therefore, you have to create that environment.
00:54:21And this is why you have lawyers coming forward and you have people coming forward that will be able to speak to you to look at, you know, some of the methodology that you can use in terms of contracting that.
00:54:33And I think it is absolutely important.
00:54:34And I think it is absolutely important that when we create a space, even as I work with young people for almost 30 something years, your space is important.
00:54:42Because young people come and they are frustrated, they are fed up, they can't take it no more, and you have to give them that space where they can chat, where you apply good listening skills.
00:54:51Even parents.
00:54:52And the gentleman is right on board in terms of looking and making sure that it's not just I'm a person who is performing, but how do I perform?
00:55:02Do I, you know, like the environment, am I happy to come out to work, you know, and all these things are paramount.
00:55:09Yes, certainly.
00:55:10All right, we have another caller on the line.
00:55:12Caller, good evening.
00:55:13Welcome to be on the tape.
00:55:15Yeah, good evening.
00:55:16Good evening.
00:55:16Good evening.
00:55:17After that, continue, continue doing your good with children because they really need it.
00:55:24So continue doing it.
00:55:24Now, I want to say, the U.S. President, he dispatched his vessels, the Caribbean, to intercept shipments coming from Venezuela.
00:55:33But I saw where our custom officers, they seized activity coming from Miami and Florida, so it's not only Venezuela, so where are they coming from?
00:55:42And we asked for our custom officers, you know, they've got these things, you know.
00:55:47Now, one of the women, very, very good.
00:55:51I always remember when she was there.
00:55:54You know, they tried to give her real pressure.
00:55:56She talked about prayers, they find her fault.
00:55:59She went on somewhere, she draws something, they find her fault.
00:56:01They tried to set her up, but thank God she has overcome.
00:56:04And those ladies who we have seen, congratulations to all of them.
00:56:08They have overcome what we think.
00:56:10Because sometimes people, they're just wicked, you know, but God will take care of all of them.
00:56:15My last point is, be very, very careful.
00:56:20Everybody concerning this weekend that come in here, because, you know, some people like to play the crazy door, all sorts of things.
00:56:28And I hope that people be very careful on the roads.
00:56:31I find we're having too many, too many accidents.
00:56:34And sometimes people here, you know, are just a bit.
00:56:36But God is great, and be safe, all of you, including Ms. Jackie.
00:56:40Thank you very, very much.
00:56:43All right, thanks so much, Paula.
00:56:45Well, I want to give the insurance that traffic bans will be out in the numbers.
00:56:50You'll find most cases when it's a long weekend.
00:56:52You'll find them maracas, you'll find them.
00:56:54Police know, and we are thankful that, but police cannot be everywhere.
00:56:58And therefore, we need to police ourselves to ensure that, you know, the drivers on the road,
00:57:04we need to remind them the importance of being careful and how they conduct themselves behind the wheel.
00:57:10And the lady made an absolutely excellent point in terms of police officers, and, by extension, working in concert with other stakeholders.
00:57:18That is 90 percent of effective crime fighting, if we are certainly to ensure that police stand out and say,
00:57:28listen, we have a reduction in crime, is because we are a partner with several stakeholders,
00:57:32and as a result of that, we have seen new results.
00:57:35So we need to commend the callers who are making a case and say, listen, I would like to contribute.
00:57:40How can I contribute?
00:57:42And also sharing with us the importance of certain things that we need to look for so that we can effect and ensure that crime is fought in an effective way.
00:57:51So I need to commend her, and I certainly hope that there are more citizens like that who continue to support the trying to make a police service.
00:57:58Yes, she's a regular caller.
00:57:59Yes.
00:58:00All right, I think we have another caller on the line.
00:58:02Caller, good evening.
00:58:03Welcome to be on the tape.
00:58:04Good evening, sir.
00:58:06Good evening, gentlemen.
00:58:07Yes.
00:58:07I'm calling, just calling, to piggyback on a customer, a caller, a caller, a caller, a caller,
00:58:14hearing about two or three calls ago, concerning the loud music that most residents are experiencing compared to residential areas.
00:58:24I know that Marlon and Mr. Alexander have spoken about it at length on the tape when he used to host the shelter together.
00:58:32But since Mr. Alexander has assumed his position as a former Secretary minister, up to now we get to hear a statement or comment on that,
00:58:44Because it is a problem, and as the caller tells us, the silent killer, imagine you work wholly, right, and when you come home, you are the moses of these individuals who play music whole day, day and night, sometimes way down to the morning, and these bars, now as we have realized, they're opening anywhere now, even in residential, even.
00:59:05And this situation is annoying, it is very stressful, and I don't know the authorities waiting for something to happen to deal with the situation, but it is bad, and you're dealing with the people who are retirees, people who are sick, the elderly, and they have to put up with this music day and night, and this is something that needs to address the situation before something bad happens, and it looks as though you wait for
00:59:35things that happen before we deal with situations in Trena and Debego.
00:59:39So I'll just call you to piggyback on the customer on the last caller, sorry, and it needs to be addressed.
00:59:47Thank you so much, caller, and you know, as you said, this is a very serious problem like any other crime-related problem, because some bar owners, they flout the law, some persons flout the law, because of course, you know, it might be loud to you,
01:00:04but it might be loud to them.
01:00:06That's right.
01:00:06And again, I have seen when members of the public came together and shut down bars in this country, you know, where licensing has been revoked, the power is in the hands of the people,
01:00:18and if people can come together in an association or on a petition and, you know, make their presence felt, these bar owners will understand that they're not owned and they're not placed in a cocoon,
01:00:29but they're there among members of the resident retirees, and the retirees say, we wouldn't have it.
01:00:35And therefore, it is a good thing when members of the public come together and make a good statement, and then you will have this matter.
01:00:43And as you said earlier, three strikes and you're out.
01:00:45The police warn you, second name, they warn you, there is a report that you have been warned several times, revocalizing.
01:00:51Yeah, I think two of the most key words here we have to understand or to take, to bear in mind is consideration and discretion.
01:01:02All right, we have another caller on the line.
01:01:03Caller, good evening.
01:01:07Okay.
01:01:07Good evening, caller.
01:01:08You're live on Beyond the T.F.
01:01:09Go ahead, quickly.
01:01:11Yes, gentlemen.
01:01:14Mark and also Officer Shabody.
01:01:17Officer Shabody, good work that you continue to do.
01:01:20Let me ask a question, because I see a cross-utilization of different departments going out in the community to do community work,
01:01:29and I'm wondering if it wouldn't serve better to boost again the community-oriented programs
01:01:35and make them more concentrated in the areas where they can connect with the various communities
01:01:43and provide some of those psychosocial supports that they need, rather than most of the other units trying to go out,
01:01:52and there's a designated community-oriented program.
01:01:56I don't know what you would think about that, because I think the community-oriented program also partners with the churches,
01:02:03also partners with different sectors of the society,
01:02:06and I'm thinking that sometimes there's too much cross-utilization of other departments going out
01:02:12to try and promote stuff that the community police should be involved in.
01:02:16I don't know if you could speak to that.
01:02:17Thank you, Zayla.
01:02:18Thank you, Zayla.
01:02:19Dr. Kola, you have about a minute.
01:02:20Go ahead.
01:02:20Yeah, gentleman is on the board.
01:02:23In fact, some of the blueprint, in terms of our committee-oriented, is working with several stakeholders.
01:02:29Yeah.
01:02:29And then it is passed on to other people.
01:02:31Each committee is unique, and each committee has their own fingerprint.
01:02:34You follow?
01:02:35But the gentleman is on board.
01:02:37I think we should not be duplicating, but we should just extend and expand, do a pilot project,
01:02:43you know, do a little test and do an evaluation,
01:02:45and ensure that at the end of the day, the needs of the committee is met with several stakeholders.
01:02:49The police cannot do it alone, and therefore it requires a number of different persons, individuals,
01:02:54who will give up their time to ensure that we save our committee one home at a time,
01:02:59one child at a time.
01:03:00Yeah, one child at a time, you're right.
01:03:02And, you know, all the callers that call in, and of course this issue of loud music,
01:03:06we are hopeful that the authorities and other persons that are listening will assist in alleviating
01:03:12this problem sooner rather than later.
01:03:15And you have about 50 seconds.
01:03:17Anything you want to, before we close into this independence long weekend?
01:03:21Well, on behalf of the Commissioner of Police, the Executive, Mr. Sook Dean,
01:03:25you know, members of the club, we want to wish Trinidad and Tobago,
01:03:29a very happy independence.
01:03:30It is a good call for prayer.
01:03:32I think that this nation needs prayer.
01:03:35We sing what's going on, see what's happening in the home, what's happening in the community,
01:03:38and there's nothing bad in saying, let us have a day of prayer.
01:03:43And we will come to you to pray, but when we come together, there's more impact.
01:03:47So I just want to wish Trinidad and Tobago the very best.
01:03:52To the 63 years, it's quite, you're not really a big man, but you're a young adult.
01:03:57Yes.
01:03:57You know, but we have a lot of potential.
01:04:00I think collectively we can go places.
01:04:03All right.
01:04:03And on that note, we're going to leave you.
01:04:05Of course, we want to wish Trinidad and Tobago a happy 63rd Independence.
01:04:13And, you know, remember we run tonight at 11.30.
01:04:17No, we run tomorrow.
01:04:18And, of course, a holiday on Monday, so we'll be back here on Tuesday at 4.45 p.m.
01:04:24Till then, please, be safe on the nation roadways and enjoy your Independence Weekend.
01:04:28We're out.
01:04:29We're out.
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