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03:52Welcome to Beyond the Tape.
04:00I'm your host, Mark Basant.
04:01Welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and Tobago.
04:04Of course, our global viewers and our brothers and sisters in the eyes of Grenada.
04:09It's Tuesday in Sydney this morning.
04:12It started out very wet.
04:13We had a lot of heavy rainfall along the east-west corridor.
04:16That resulted in some flooding in particular places.
04:20What you're looking at here is in the Dago Martin area near the East St. Finber's Church.
04:26A lot of flash flooding here.
04:27Water seeping down and flowing down onto the main road there as motorists try to traverse the gushing water.
04:35And there were a couple of other areas that were inundated by water, two and three feet across the east-west corridor, some places in East Trinidad, as well as in the west.
04:47And, of course, you know, the rainfall will continue.
04:51They had some heavy rainfall this afternoon, and then it subsided.
04:54And I imagine over the next couple of days we'll be faced with other thunderstorms.
04:58Well, with me today is none other than Corporal Derek Shabody from the St. James Police Youth Club, co-founder and manager.
05:08Welcome again.
05:09How are you?
05:10Well, blessings.
05:11Blessings to your listenership.
05:14All is well, thank you.
05:15And I operate in the west as well.
05:17So I had my share of terrible rain.
05:21Challenges in the rain.
05:22Yes, and I thank God that probably a little after 1, 2 o'clock, you know, the rain was kind to us.
05:30Yeah.
05:30That I was able to maneuver, but it was terrible.
05:34I trust that, you know, people are safe in their homes.
05:38I know that the corporation do a good work.
05:40I work in concert with the corporation.
05:43You know, I just want to say a shout out to them.
05:44I know they were on standby to assist, and I know they had the 800 number for those who may be marooned and may need some kind of assistance.
05:54But, you know, sometimes I like rain, but not that kind of rain.
05:58Yeah, and I think what's also important is that all these drains need to be cleared.
06:05Attended to that, right, regular.
06:06Businesses are not supposed to be throwing debris and junk and garbage into these drains, which also is a contributory factor to the flooding that we face across Trinidad and Tobago.
06:17Yeah, and we have been saying that over and over, educating.
06:20I have the cooperation by the team now at the U-Club to do a little bit of safety and, you know, handling trees and drain and sandbags.
06:28Because the policy clubs see themselves as a fundamental stakeholder, training the young people very early in terms of caring for drain and all that.
06:36And working in concert with the neighbor is also something that needs to be applauded.
06:42You know, so I think that educating, making sure they have a lot of public service announcements and giving people the right information and appealing to those that you, you know,
06:51you aid in a bit most of the time to this unfortunate flood that we have in the U.S. and by extension at a national level.
06:59Yep, definitely.
07:00Well, you saw yesterday the police commissioner, Mr. Alistair Guevara, he launched a police school initiative, policing initiative across Trinidad and Tobago.
07:11And he visited a couple of schools in South Trinidad, you know, primary schools, interacted with parents, maybe teachers,
07:19as well as some of the students who came in early to school.
07:22And I know as a man who works very closely with students across the board with the St. James Place Youth Club,
07:30I know you would welcome a move like this because we have seen time and time again, you know,
07:35this horrendous school violence, wearing its ugly head in schools across Trinidad and Tobago,
07:42leading to students being injured badly and so on.
07:46And I imagine you would want to give us your input as to your impressions about this new venture
07:53and what you think it will augur, how you think it will do going forward for the schools and the environment that these children are in.
08:02Well, at one time I thought the commissioner looked like the principal of the school, you know, based on his look.
08:09We need to commend, first of all, the commissioner of police for leading my example, taking the lead,
08:16being down at the school, looking at the school, you know, that the officer wasn't just there,
08:19but he was there taking time, interacting with the student is absolutely excellent.
08:23It's applaudable that he could, you know, have a discussion with the teacher,
08:29understand the composition of the school, looking at what the officers may be saying.
08:33You know, all that is part and parcel of good leadership, and I want to personally commend him.
08:40I think police officers in school is long overdue, right?
08:44Yes, we have been working with school, but I'm talking about officers' teaching at a school is long overdue.
08:50I have had my share of teachers saying, officer, when they're coming back,
08:54sometimes you're going to a simple lecture and you're doing almost four hours because you have to talk to the student,
08:59that student, this one not listening.
09:02So you could see that there was a need for the police presence and also the safety being paramount.
09:11I know that the teachers would applaud that, the staff would applaud that,
09:18because the teachers are not lined up for conflict resolution and the management.
09:21They're there to teach, you know, and the type of violence we are seeing.
09:27We are seeing that the police presence is not there to intimidate, but is there as a deterrent.
09:32In terms of sending a message, we want to make sure our learning institutions are there to only ensure that children come and learn.
09:41Too much, too much offenses, too much.
09:45And I'm sure that you would have covered a few as well, Mark, in terms of sometimes gunmen having gun exchange,
09:55coming to hit on people, father taking son to school.
09:59You hear there's a hit on right in front of the school, running through the school,
10:03so that you could see that there has to be some type of order to bring back respectability to the school.
10:09And the principals cannot do that. Teachers cannot do that.
10:13What you mentioned there, you recall there was actually a shooting, I believe, last year in front of one of the Belmont primary schools.
10:21That's right.
10:21Where the father had dropped his daughter to school, and as he walked back out of the school,
10:27he was shot and killed right near the front of that school.
10:30Yes.
10:30And you can imagine the trauma that would have got for these young children who would have heard those gunshots,
10:36and some of them would have witnessed or seen this person lying on the ground and so on,
10:41because it was just a school that was about to call.
10:43So I imagine that, you know, we are hopeful that the presence of these police officers in the nation schools across Trinidad and Tobago
10:51will obviously add that sense of safety and security, not just for students, but also for teachers.
10:58And when these students, if you are having issues, of course, you approach your teachers and your counselors and so on,
11:05and if they think it is something that needs to be brought to the attention of the officers in that school to assist,
11:11it's important that, you know, they use that facility and speak with these officers to defuse a potential situation in some manner
11:19or, you know, bring these students who are up to mischief to be questioned and so on.
11:28Yeah, and it's all proactive. It's not reactive.
11:30So that the officer or officers attached to the school, assigned to the school, is not placed in isolation,
11:38but is it working in concert with all the stakeholders, the dean of discipline, the vice principal, the principal.
11:44There are times when they will have meetings.
11:46There are times when they will have the officers updated in terms of matters.
11:50You follow?
11:51The guidance counselor, the social worker.
11:54So the officer will have a sense of, okay, my school is a unique school, and therefore this is what is required.
11:59And we have to applaud Mr. Benjamin.
12:03I think Mr. Benjamin did a good job by reading the right actors and reminding them the importance of their role and function,
12:11and they must remain steadfast, focused on their role, because everybody's looking.
12:16I know that we have received excellent reviews in terms of the public.
12:20I'm sure that you will appreciate the fact that the public have some legitimate concerns, and we must respect that.
12:26You know, however, we must understand, going further, that it is a good thing when your son can go to school,
12:36and knowing that the school is a safe school.
12:39It's a school where the environment is conducive for learning, and your son is looking overhead.
12:45There's no phone call that you could anticipate.
12:49When an officer will call you and tell you your son is at the hospital,
12:53properly well beaten, you know, and for you to say, well, I dropped off my son's school today, and this happened, we want to defuse that.
13:03And we also want to address those who are having anger problem, you know, saying that it's only for those who are alone.
13:09But the children who are having anger problem, who are having issues, you will see a lot of programs rolling out in schools,
13:16you know, promoting a culture of peace, conflict resolution, anger management, you know, grading these schools,
13:23moving a school from at-risk to at-promise, all those are important other initiatives.
13:28So it's a multi-point approach in terms of this is just one of the many initiatives that the police have working in concept of the Ministry of Education
13:36and, by extension, are the stakeholders.
13:38Yes, and you raise a critical point, and we want to say a good afternoon to DCP Benjamin when he spoke about these police officers are trained in this respect,
13:47and obviously, if they step out of line in any way, they will be dealt with and disciplined accordingly by the TTPS.
13:55Yes, we can have officers, on one hand, giving that mammoth responsibility, and on the same hand, you follow,
14:05people have question marks in terms of who they are, the integrity part, circumspect, conducting service as a police officer,
14:13all that plays a fundamental, and, in fact, they will earn a lot of respect.
14:17Yes.
14:18You follow?
14:19And, therefore, the teachers will be making notes, the principals will be making notes,
14:21and, obviously, they need to know that people will be looking on, they'll be watching,
14:26and it's absolutely imperative the way you conduct a service school.
14:29We'll speak volumes.
14:31All right.
14:32Moving on a bit here now, you know, the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service sent out a release today
14:37in which they identified that 10 Venezuelan nationals were held entering this country illegally.
14:45The 10 Venezuelan nationals who attempted to enter the country illegally were arrested
14:48while a rifle and a quantity of ammunition was seized during an anti-crime operation
14:52conducted in the Southwestern and Port of Spain Divisions yesterday.
14:57An exercise was conducted by a person of the Interagency Task Force between 7 and 9 a.m. on Monday,
15:03during which they proceeded to a building in Nelson Street Planings, where a search was conducted.
15:07During the search, officers found one rifle loaded with a magazine containing 22 rungs of 5.56 ammunition
15:13wrapped in a plastic on the rooftop of a building.
15:17That exercise was spared by ACP Hazel, Senior Superintendent Sukas, Superintendent Ram Sukas, and ASB Singh.
15:24Meanwhile, officers of the Southwestern Division interrupted a vessel
15:28approximately one mile from shore in the Aireen District around 7.05 yesterday.
15:34The 10 Venezuelan nationals ages 7 to 25 were detained and officials of the Immigration Department
15:42and the Children's Authority were informed, Corporal.
15:45Yes, this is good work, good intelligence, good information, police responding in time.
15:51You know, you're a city transnational component of crime.
15:56And this is not happening now, it's happening a while now.
15:58And we need to applaud the police, we do need to applaud members of the public
16:02who continue to provide information so the officers can make an arrest and an extension,
16:08bring closure to whatever unfortunate criminal activities that they may want to arm.
16:15This country is a beautiful country, and we need to make sure and preserve it and keep it.
16:20And these elements, let me tell you, understand that the police is on top of the game.
16:24Law enforcement is on top of the game.
16:26And there's a fight that we must win.
16:27Exactly.
16:29Speaking of applauding, we have to applaud this young lady at this video here at the Mount Lambert area,
16:36captured on September 8th.
16:38She was in a vehicle, and she used the weapon of her horn and her voice
16:44to alert neighbors to would-be robbers.
16:48Let's take a look.
16:49So she's reversing into what appears to be her driveway, or a driveway maybe visiting someone, I guess,
16:58but probably her home.
16:59And her gate is closing in slowly, it's an electronic gate.
17:08And she reverses, and you see an individual armed, appears to be holding something that resembles a firearm.
17:17Yes, Corporal?
17:18Yes.
17:19And the second man holds the gate that was closing in.
17:23But it seems that she raised an alarm.
17:28That was excellent, excellent.
17:30She raised an alarm and shouted out.
17:35And that kind of, you know, the bandits panicked.
17:38Yes.
17:39And as a police officer, I know you might want to give us an idea of some other measures persons can adopt in a situation like this
17:49when they are faced with something of this nature.
17:52Quick thinking.
17:53That's quick thinking.
17:54And you see, these are the discussions we need to have.
17:57In case this happens, what should you do?
17:59In case somebody comes, there's a discussion you need to have in keeping with the times.
18:03Because, you know, I would also want to recommend that you use your car as a weapon.
18:08Make sure that these brothers feel it.
18:10Yeah.
18:10Don't come out of vehicle.
18:12You know, these men and them don't have no care for life.
18:15They have no care for property.
18:17And therefore, they come to not only ask you for your jewelry, you know.
18:20They come to make sure and take your life.
18:22And look at that.
18:23Well, he is lucky that the gate didn't close in directly because his co-accomplice would have been stuck there.
18:29And if you said that she could have used her vehicle as a weapon, then the story might have ended differently for him.
18:36Yeah.
18:37Raising the alarm was excellent.
18:38Yeah.
18:38I think that you probably need to be mindful that, you know, all these different sort of, in keeping with your neighborhood, watch.
18:48Sometimes telling somebody that you're on your way.
18:50Yeah.
18:50You're five minutes away from your home so that somebody can meet you.
18:54All that is a deterrent.
18:56You follow?
18:56And I think that this is one of the many things that we need to applaud in terms of ensuring that this woman is alive today.
19:05She has to be applauded.
19:07Yes.
19:07Excellent work.
19:08And probably just need to be used, you know, at a national level that it is okay to scream.
19:13Yep.
19:14It is okay to call out.
19:15Don't let nobody tell you, hush.
19:17Scream.
19:17Your life is important.
19:19Yeah.
19:19You know?
19:20And she must be applauded.
19:21All right.
19:22If anybody has information about this particular attempted crime, we ask you to contact in every police station.
19:28You can also call 800-TIPS or 999, as the case may be.
19:33All right.
19:33It's day 54 of the state of emergency.
19:38Let's take a look at some of the figures.
19:39So, number of operations thus far, 3,925.
19:45Target priority offenders, 1,479.
19:48Sages conducted, 24,922.
19:53Traffic operations, 2,487.
19:55Total persons arrested, 1,716.
19:59Traffic offenses detected, 13,239.
20:03Firearms recovered, 55 pistols, 28 revolvers, 15 shotguns, 16 rifles, and 3 air rifles.
20:11Ammunition recovered, 712 rounds of 9mm, 86 rounds of 12 gauge, 50 rounds of .380, 369 rounds of 5.56, 85 rounds of .38, 54 rounds of .40, 7 rounds of .35,
20:2847 rounds of .45, and 48 rounds of 7.62.
20:35Dangerous drug seized, 223,580.38 grams of marijuana, 7,127.63 grams of cocaine, and 1,032 STC pills, and 15 grams of molly corporal shabadi.
20:50You tell me, you tell me, it is a wonderful thing when you're here that you're getting the garbage out of the community.
21:00You know, the thing that kills the community, that kills your family, that destroys your family.
21:04It is a wonderful thing.
21:05And again, I want to commend the Trinidad Baker Police Service and all those who play a fundamental role in ensuring that illicit drugs and ammunition and, you know, get it out of the hands.
21:18And at the same time, we want to applaud the persons who, you know, go beyond the call of duty to ensure that at the end of the day, the police service,
21:27and, by extension, every organization that partner with us, that is the results we get.
21:35Ammunition out, clean in time.
21:37It's time to get the rubbish truck, pull up, clean it out, so that we will have a good community.
21:43All right, good analogy there.
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25:02Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
25:21I am your host, Mark Bussan, joined today by Corporal Derek Shabadi, founder of the St. James Police Youth Club, and the manager of the club.
25:31And yeah, you're here with us today.
25:34Yeah, and I appreciate, you know, being in your audience.
25:37I was telling you earlier that this month is a suicidal prevention month, and it is an important month.
25:46I mean, it's every month we need to address all the mental challenges that we have in my extension.
25:51But suicide seems to be, there's a spike in suicide, especially when there's social media.
25:57It was, last week I was looking at the international media and artificial intelligence.
26:05My father is suing a company that has been counseling, providing counsel to a young man who eventually killed himself.
26:16They have the readout, and the young man didn't realize it was, it was a non-human being he was speaking to.
26:23And the information and the conversation that was taking place was as though it was a human.
26:30And the young man eventually killed himself.
26:32And the parents on earth, the discussion, and the company is now facing a billion dollar sue.
26:40And we have to be so careful in terms of these chats that is provided for young people.
26:45You know, we need to make sure that we need to provide them with a sense of the human element that they will continue to make short choices and keeping a sense of positivity, a good frame of mind.
26:57You know, the tips are there, and we need to appreciate the fact that too many young people are depressed.
27:04Yeah.
27:04And that depression could go into so many different things.
27:07Yeah, well, I see you're wearing your ribbon today, so I had to ask.
27:11Yes, yes.
27:12So thanks for educating me on that.
27:14All right.
27:15So while the pilot was rescued on Sunday, Mr. Daniel K, while we are still hopeful,
27:22and the relatives are calling on those who have businessman Imraz Club Alley in custody,
27:29or has captured him or has been detained, to release him, please.
27:36And, of course, the hunter search and rescue team under Captain Valens has been searching together with the assistance of police.
27:45They went to the Felicity area and other areas in central Trinidad over the last two days.
27:51Of course, Captain was with us yesterday while his team was doing searches,
27:55and then he rejoined them after the show.
27:59And this is some of the areas that perhaps this was today.
28:03I believe it's in the central area there, going down one of those rivers.
28:08It's a hope full of some kind of, you know, some discovery because Mr. Ali went missing since last Thursday
28:17from his ajuda, rode home in Kunupia.
28:20He left home in a white-colored Toyota Crown registration, PBT-7377,
28:26and his vehicle was later found in the Freeport area.
28:30But, of course, there was no trace of Mr. Ali.
28:33They called him around 3 o'clock, and he spoke with relatives and so on.
28:37And when they tried back his phone around 7 o'clock, there was no answer,
28:42and the relatives said that it is very strange and peculiar because Mr. Ali usually answers his phone.
28:48And he recently sold one of his businesses and got into the foreign used car dealership.
28:55And our understanding was that he was making some purchases or something of the sort.
29:01And there was an exchange of cash that he had in his possession.
29:05And we don't know who and when they would have, you know, taken him away unceremoniously.
29:14And, of course, we're still hoping for a happy ending to this story
29:19that Mr. Ali has brought back safely to his family, Corporal.
29:23Well, I'm remiss that we need to commend the officers for an absolutely excellent execution
29:29for the safe return of the goodly captain, right?
29:34That was excellent.
29:36You know, the terrain and, you know, all the officers executed,
29:40and, you know, the gentleman came back safe, and they need to be applauded.
29:44It could be otherwise, you follow?
29:46Because these men are evil.
29:48And to Mr. Ali, I want to commend the search and rescue team.
29:51A captain, they need to be given a national award for the kind of work they do.
29:57They don't work in concert.
29:58You could see it is a love.
30:00They do it diligently.
30:02And, therefore, you have to have somebody who would have known the whereabouts of Ali.
30:06Somebody, some law-abiding citizen could provide the police
30:10or could provide the powers that be with information to the rescue of Mr. Ali.
30:15I'm certain about that.
30:17But it is very, very unfortunate that you have these things unfolding before you,
30:23that a man doing business, his car found, however, the money not found,
30:28you know that somebody was monitoring this gentleman,
30:31probably somebody that you know very well.
30:32However, we trust that an arrest is imminent.
30:37And, by extension, that whoever would provide the police with information
30:41that they'll execute and ensure the safe return of this father and businessman.
30:48Yes, certainly.
30:48And if you have any information about the whereabouts of Mr. Ali,
30:52you're asked to contact the nearest police station, 800-TIPS-999.
30:55Or you can even contact the Hunter's Search and Rescue Team at 799-1453
31:01if you have any kind of information.
31:03All right, so we just want to give you some notices here quickly
31:07of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service Town Meetings coming up.
31:12Actually, one is on tomorrow, Wednesday 10th at 6 p.m.
31:18at the Blanchishers Community Center Recreation Grounds Road,
31:23Upper Village Blanchishers.
31:24This is the Northeastern Division Town Meeting.
31:27So if you have any concerns, any questions, any suggestions for a way to improve
31:35the safety and security of your community, go out there and interact with police officers.
31:42And we also have one also in the Sangu Gandhi area, Eastern Division Town Meeting
31:49also tomorrow at 6 p.m. at Sadeswaha Hindu College,
31:54Kanapo Southern Main Road in Sangu Gandhi.
31:57Go out, share your concerns with the police officers to get a better understanding
32:01of some of your concerns, even if you have a suggestion
32:05how to do something differently or even better.
32:08Go out there and have that interaction.
32:11Corporal Shabali, that's extremely important.
32:13Yes, and we want to further commend members of the public
32:16who take time off to sit and talk and chat
32:19and interact with the district police and the inspector, the senior superintendent.
32:24And you know what is good, too, is that these members of the public
32:28sometimes come with solutions.
32:29They come with projects that are already on the ground and just need to expand.
32:34And sometimes the divisional head may not be aware of it, you know,
32:37and therefore putting an officer to work in concert with them is always good.
32:41There are people with a lot of answers.
32:42The people on the ground, you know, we have to salute them.
32:46They come not to discriminate or to make war with police.
32:51The Blanche shares have their share of problems.
32:54They are very unique.
32:55And as a result of that, they would want to ensure what they're doing is lawful,
32:59law-abiding, and by extension, join the police.
33:03Grandi, in fact, there's a gentleman called last week.
33:05I was wondering when Grandi is having a town meeting.
33:08So here we go.
33:09So I trust that the gentleman is hearing us and he make himself available to attend.
33:14All right.
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36:33Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
36:50I'm your host, Mark Bassan, joined today by Corporal Derek Chabody of the St. James Police Youth Club, manager and founder.
36:57And, of course, every day we talk about road safety on this program, and today is no different.
37:04With the school term beginning yesterday, you know, we would expect persons to be a little more careful on the roadways with increased traffic on the roads now.
37:14And we had an incident here in the Vance River area, heading into Point Forte, involving three vehicles.
37:22Looks pretty serious.
37:23Two vehicles there, maybe head-on collision, and then a truck.
37:28Somehow was also involved in this accident, Corporal Chabody.
37:32Well, I trust that there was no life loss or no serious injury.
37:37But here we go again.
37:38You know, people indiscriminately driving, no care.
37:41And this courteous road, you know, and at the end of the day, the innocent sometimes pays with the guilty.
37:47Look at that, you know.
37:48I don't really have the facts.
37:49Yeah.
37:50Just by using the road, yesterday traffic was absolutely terrible in the morning.
37:55But guess what?
37:55I put on some music, and I, you know, I relax.
37:58There's no need to be worried and angry.
38:00There's a traffic, you're on your way.
38:02It's unfortunate, you make a call.
38:04You know, it's better to reach late safe than to reach early dead.
38:09You know, and some people really, really need to add some value, and they need to probably, the licenses need to be pulled.
38:20And they need to go back on some type of.
38:22We can't emphasize enough on this program to slow down on the roadways.
38:26There are other motorists using the roadways, and it's extremely important that you have to drive for yourself and for others.
38:33That's right.
38:33If you don't, you're going to get into difficulty.
38:36And I think this is, in this second accident, you see you're heading into Portus, we're not just over the flyover.
38:42Look at this.
38:45Traffic, there's virtually standstill traffic.
38:48And then you see a vehicle coming down there, he's switching lanes.
38:50Yeah, boom.
38:51Goes in the middle, and boom.
38:53Runs into at least two vehicles.
38:55Speed.
38:55Right?
38:57God alone knows, he could have hurt somebody or even killed a person or persons.
39:03Luckily, I don't think anybody was killed, but persons would have obviously been injured in some way.
39:10Not this.
39:11And you're seeing the destruction of the vehicles.
39:13Yes.
39:14Before us here.
39:15And it is, you know, you have to ask the question.
39:19You're seeing all that traffic.
39:21Why are you trying to speed and fit between lanes?
39:24And then you lose control of your vehicle?
39:27Recklessness.
39:28I see once upon a time people buy a car for the family, to make sure they're rich, to work safe.
39:34It appears as though people are buying a car for speed now.
39:36Yes.
39:37You know, it has nothing to do with family.
39:39It has nothing.
39:40The road belongs to them.
39:42And as a result of that, this is what occurred.
39:44Yeah, because that was, it was going pretty fast there.
39:48Most persons were stationary.
39:50They had come to a stop or were driving very slowly behind any other traffic.
39:54And then you see this vehicle out of nowhere speeding past some vehicles, changing lanes,
40:00and then running into at least two to three vehicles.
40:02Yes.
40:03These fellas need to be made an example.
40:05I mean, I say everything that need to go before the magistrate, this is what happened.
40:10You have full view of how reckless he was.
40:14So probably his license will be suspended for a little while.
40:16Then we go and do some committee service.
40:18And he said, you know, we could take these cars sometimes and put them on a highway.
40:22So when people drive in, they'll say, this is as a result of two deaths, this woman injured.
40:27But, you know, so when people drive in, something will click.
40:32You're right.
40:32Because our producer, we showed some pretty in-your-face ads last week.
40:37Yes.
40:38You know, showing, you know, if you're speeding, what you could do.
40:41You could kill this person.
40:43And they're telling you, he's going to kill this person.
40:45And then they show you.
40:45And maybe that kind of in-your-face advertising is what we need people to see to understand that they need to exercise more caution on the nation roadways.
40:54Definitely.
40:55Definitely.
40:56All right.
40:56We have our first caller on the line.
40:57Caller, good evening.
40:58Welcome to be on the tape.
41:00Yeah.
41:00Good evening.
41:01Calling from Guaya.
41:02Gary.
41:03Good day, Guaya.
41:03How are you?
41:04Not like coconut.
41:06Great.
41:08Go ahead.
41:09We're listening.
41:09Corporal Shabodee, I know you're a person very involved in the road safety.
41:15Aspect of the police service.
41:19I want to get your views on the redundancy of road check exercises, roadblocks, i.e. roadblocks, to catch aaron drive.
41:26Well, I understand the value and the nature of roadblocks and what it is designed to achieve.
41:34But the continuous flow of traffic and to catch aaron road users.
41:39Because I suggested one time to a former commissioner of police by way of documentation that speed traps, electronic speed traps, be placed under the walkovers and flyovers of the nation's highways and byways.
41:54I saw post that period, I saw that there are two kind of flashlights that would pick you up either at the El Sikoro turn or by the hyatt there.
42:08There are two there.
42:09But it never came into operation.
42:11It never gained traction.
42:12So I want to get your take on the implementation of electronic ticketing devices placed under the nation's highways and byways so they could pick up vehicles, of course, going over the speed limit and creating other road infractions.
42:31Secondly, I ventured up to the comodal area and I noticed that there was a graveyard in excess of 300 derelict police vehicles.
42:44Given the budgetary restraints of the police service and the economic issues faced by the country, is there a plan by the police service to salvage usable parts from these derelict vehicles to make them operational?
43:04All right, Kola, thanks so much for your input.
43:10Of course, we're going to answer those questions that you posed to the corporal after this short break.
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46:40Welcome back to Beyond the TTP.
46:43I am your host, Mark Gossan, joined today by Corporal Derek Chabody of the St. James Police Youth Club,
46:48co-founder and manager.
46:50Yes, I know you have to quickly respond to the caller.
46:52Yeah, the gentleman is on the ball.
46:54State-of-the-art technology is the way to go in terms of addressing crime fighting, road fatality.
47:01You need to use technology.
47:03Technology is paramount.
47:05And there has to be a cultural shift, too, in attitude.
47:08Eucharist use technology.
47:10So we have to start first with young people, the new persons who are applying for the permit.
47:13We have to explain to them there has to be a whole new attitude when you get behind a car.
47:18But technology is important if you really want to address the question of the madness that is taking place on our highway.
47:24In terms of vehicle, there are some that are government vehicles, and that goes with the control of accounts,
47:29where I just, you know, through audit, dealing with vehicles that I'd be able to auction off, that's government vehicles.
47:36But in terms of other vehicles, that is court matter, that there is matters pending.
47:40So sometimes you see vehicles in a station because matters are still pending,
47:44and therefore the officer cannot release based on court instructions from the court matter.
47:50But the control of accounts is one that controls all government vehicles,
47:53and we'll discuss when it will be auctioned and how it should be dispersed.
47:59All right, thanks for clearing that up.
48:01Of course, we have another caller in line.
48:03Caller, good evening, and welcome to be on the tape.
48:06Pleasant little afternoon, gentlemen.
48:07Good day, sir.
48:08Mark, yesterday I just spoke about the children going back to school with the officers and so on.
48:14But one of my concerns, I live in the Willemville area,
48:18and there's a lot of private buses that take these children back and forth from school, you know.
48:25And the music, the type of music, and the level of music, the noise, I don't think that is suitable.
48:34Somebody need to look into that.
48:36It's who back shots and who this and that, and that is the kind of music.
48:39I just get very, very, very angry when I, every time when I come across this, right?
48:47Another issue is that I've been, I went to Poros, I think sometime in the week here,
48:53driving, I just drive within 80 to 90 kilometers an hour, you know,
48:57and every single vehicle passed me on the highway, you know.
49:04And I was asking myself, probably to put a hole on maybe the ticketing system,
49:12with driving fast, the speed trap, because I feel like something was wrong, you know.
49:20Because I said I was driving almost 90 kilometers, almost 100, and every single thing passed me.
49:27Something is wrong, you know.
49:30And the, if something could be done about, you know, like maybe put some private vehicles on the road,
49:36unmarked police vehicle, and I see they did that in the States with cell phones,
49:41and also drivers who don't want to come back to the left, right,
49:46where the officers were moving their cameras, and they actually videotape people using their cell phones.
49:54Pull them aside, and they were ticketed, you know, and I think it's time that something is done
50:00with these drivers who don't want to come back on the left side after, you know, on that right side,
50:05constantly on that right side.
50:06That is total madness.
50:07It causes too much of that in and out.
50:11And one more thing before I go, the gentleman who called prior, he spoke about the derelict vehicles.
50:19In .14 some years ago, right, one fender on one of the Suzuki Vatara was involved in an accident,
50:28and that vehicle packed up in .14 station for over six months.
50:33When there's so much out there, the same Vatara, Suzuki Vatara vehicles that maybe, who probably was involved in an accident with a right side fender damage.
50:45And I think something needs to be done.
50:48There's a lot of these vehicles who, what could be recently, I know somebody who's an officer, and there were two vehicles,
50:55there was one parked up in a particular station, right, and the vehicle that they were using wasn't, was not, some little part went in it, and they actually took that vehicle from the station and carried it to the police station, where it was fixed within the day.
51:13So, I think it's something they need to look at, and continue the good work, gentlemen.
51:20God bless.
51:21Pleasant evening.
51:21Thanks a lot, Kola.
51:23Really, really, really, some important points.
51:25And the first one, of course, which is of concern, is the music that these children are listening to on these private buses that are inappropriate and unsuitable for these young, aspiring minds.
51:38And the kind of music influences your actions at some point.
51:44Yeah, definitely.
51:45Music is a powerful tool.
51:47I've seen young people shift from one behavior to the next.
51:51When a certain music starts, I need to recognize that music is not just tapping your feet.
51:56You know, it is a video component.
51:58There is a lyrical component.
52:00There's instructions given.
52:01You know, there's profanity.
52:03There's obscene.
52:04There's so much things now impacting on youth that we really, really need to have a multi-prong approach in order to address that.
52:11And I agree with him.
52:12There are some vehicles who are government-paid.
52:17They need to be, frankly, you know, you need to remove them.
52:21The licenses need to be revoked.
52:23No payment.
52:24That is done, however, through our report.
52:27That is done through our investigation inquiry.
52:29And it has to be consistent with a justification.
52:34And I know that there are a lot of drivers.
52:38No care.
52:38They feel that this is what young people want.
52:41And this is how they start their morning.
52:42With obscene profanity.
52:44And with music that does not help them, you know, get into the mood of studying them.
52:48Yes.
52:48With that kind of environment and atmosphere.
52:51Totally agree with the gentleman.
52:52I think the second thing he raised, of course, was the fact that he's driving on the Air Nations Highway, close to 90 to 100, give or take.
53:01But he's seeing people passing him.
53:02And he's suggesting, of course, you know, unmarked police vehicles, tracking of persons driving fast over the speed limit, that is, as well as, you know, those who are captured on their cell phones or other law-breaking, you know, activities that motorists tend to do from time to time.
53:23And I imagine that at some point they'll be caught.
53:27Yeah.
53:27And you hear members of the public telling police you have nothing to do.
53:30People shooting all over, robbing all over.
53:32And you come to give me a ticket because I have my phone.
53:35You know, you hear that kind of lawless, kind of reckless comment and the obscene discussion.
53:41So the police have their work hanging out to do in terms of dealing with people and attitude and culture and being disciplined, law-abiding, following the Motor Vehicle and Road Traffic Act.
53:51In the interest of everybody, it's a lot of work.
53:54A lot of work.
53:54And I think that technology plays a fundamental role.
53:57We'll be very careful, of course, because technology can be manipulated.
54:01You follow?
54:01You have to confirm the authenticity of the, you know, the video, that kind of stuff.
54:07But I agree that we need to maximize use of technology.
54:11It will have the police service in rescuing and catching these culprit, you know, element of surprise in terms of addressing this kind of lawless behavior.
54:20Yeah, and the last but not least, he spoke about, you know, some of these police vehicles, you know, they get into fender benders.
54:28And he talked about just a fender damage.
54:31And it's sitting at the Point Fortier Police Station, allegedly, for the last six months.
54:36And, you know, there needs to be some kind of aliquity or, you know, some speed to get these things fixed quickly so that they can have a vehicle in that, for that area when needed.
54:47Yeah.
54:48Well, the Senior Superintendent Division makes a relevant recommendation.
54:51There's a cemetery report on the vehicle and probably, you know, make whatever ongoing recommendation.
54:57However, is the process, the red tape, the bureaucracy, and that is where policy comes in.
55:03And I agree with him.
55:04There are some cars, simple, a simple battery symbol, and that can be done easy.
55:09But, again, we have to follow the red tape.
55:11Now, if the red tape can be modified in order to execute and ensure that these vehicles can be attended to easy, then fine.
55:18Because it's easy to get locked up, taking a battery and putting it with all the instructions.
55:21Yeah, yeah, we don't want to encourage that.
55:25All right, we have another caller on the line.
55:26Caller, good evening.
55:27Welcome to me on the tape.
55:29Yes, President, good evening, Mr. Basrand and Mr. Shavady.
55:32Yes, I just want to make a brief comment.
55:35I want to say that Mr. Shavady is an excellent example of what he's officer supposed to be.
55:42And I remember him about 20 years ago coming to my institution and delivering some lectures around youth, which are excellent.
55:50But what I want to say, I don't want him to respond, is that if he told me how this man could be just now appropriate after putting in such great effort, something is not right.
56:04Okay, something is not right.
56:05And also, his program, from what he already said, in some aspect of it, has been served for funds.
56:15One, and two, it is a program which could have been easily replicated to out in that and to be.
56:21If he's already serious about crime.
56:24Right?
56:24Mr. Shavady and his program will have been highly promoted.
56:27He's promoted, and I want to say how disappointed I am that today he's not a senior superintendent, and his program is not replicated to out in this country.
56:38Right?
56:40Thanks a lot, Colin.
56:41Obviously, you know, I guess everybody will have their sentiments.
56:45You know, there's a process, of course.
56:47And whilst, you know, there might be certain things I myself might not have knowledge of, but I think you are held in very high esteem in the public's eyes, based on your knowledge, based on your understanding, how you interact with the youths at the St. James Police Youth Club, and of course, across the board.
57:06And, you know, I guess time will tell.
57:09Yes, and to God be the glory.
57:11You know, I thank God for the caller and for all those who work and endorse and support.
57:17I had some good people around me.
57:19You know, I must thank my wife and family.
57:22You know, the media has also played a fundamental role in promoting the good news.
57:26You know, I always tell people that the Police Youth Club is the gospel of the police service.
57:30It's the good news.
57:31It's a proactive approach.
57:33When you have 10,000 young people under your care, you know, you can invest in them.
57:37And so, you know, I still continue to work.
57:41It's a calling.
57:42I have never worked one day in my life because it's a passion.
57:46And therefore, I don't look for the, you know, sometimes you go to work and you say, Lord have mercy.
57:52Why are you going to work today?
57:52I will say that.
57:55But all is well.
57:56I want to thank the caller for all those who support.
57:59And I'm indeed grateful.
58:00And all blessings come from the Mosai.
58:02Yes, certainly.
58:03And Corporal Shabadi, you know, it's really a pleasure always having you here on this program.
58:08Thanks for your insight.
58:09Thanks for your knowledge.
58:11And I'm sure all the viewers of Trinidad and Tobago appreciate your contribution as well as every single officer that comes on this show every day to impart their knowledge, their wisdom and understanding about the law with you.
58:24All right.
58:24And on that note, we've got to leave you.
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