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02:52Welcome to Beyond the TV.
03:08I'm your host, Mark Bassan.
03:09Welcome to our viewers of Curse, Trinidad and Tobago.
03:12Our international viewers and, of course, our brothers and sisters in the Isles of Grenada.
03:18So it's Tuesday, of course.
03:20Visiting from the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, the Tobago Division today, is Corporal Damien Mills of the Special Victims Unit.
03:28Welcome and thanks for coming again.
03:30Thank you very much, Mark.
03:31Mark, you know, it's always a pleasure being on the program.
03:34Special greetings to the viewing and listening public, both near and far.
03:39Yes.
03:40So just give us an idea.
03:42It's PCA.
03:42I stand corrected.
03:44Of what's happening in Tobago.
03:46Now, I know there was some daring robbery a couple days ago at a casino.
03:51It's all the elements of a movie-like scene.
03:55Yeah, well, these matters are actively being investigated and so, you know, as such, we will not be able to go into details.
04:02However, what I can say is that the officers are on the ground conducting their inquiries.
04:08With respect to the Special Victims Department, you know, the officers are also conducting inquiries, conducting investigations.
04:15We are engaging with the public on a daily basis, not just about doing investigation,
04:20but also in terms of presenting or doing interventions with families and children, especially, and so on,
04:28because we are the Gender-Based Violence Unit, Special Victims Department, Child Protection,
04:33and also Sexual Offenses Unit, all amalgamated under one banner.
04:37Special shout-out goes to our Inspector, Woman Inspector Clark Sterling and Sergeant Catterson,
04:45leading the charge and doing a marvelous job at that.
04:47Yes, certainly, and I know that in the coming days, we have the 16 days of activism.
04:54Just give us an idea of what it is about and how the public can play their part.
04:59Well, the Special Victims Department, Mark, we have decided, you know,
05:04under the auspices of Superintendent Ram Dass and ASP's Citran and Ma'am or ASP Francis,
05:13we have come together and come up with 16 days of activism.
05:16Now, that is carded to commence from the 25th of November and concludes on the 10th of December.
05:25Now, the theme for this program is uniting to end digital violence against women and girls.
05:33Now, I can already hear the men getting their pitchforks and their flambos ready to come at us
05:39because they are feeling ostracized, but the truth of the matter is that it is not that we are ostracizing the men.
05:46Based on the data that is beforehand and the information that we have,
05:50we have decided to focus primarily on the most vulnerable in society.
05:55And that is our women and our girls.
05:58Because, you know, digital violence is the use of technology to manipulate, threaten, or even harass another person.
06:07And so it can have lasting, you know, detrimental effects in three ways on an individual,
06:13both physically, reputational, and psychological.
06:18So that is what we are doing.
06:20We are going to engage with the public.
06:22We, well, for the Tobago Division, we have chosen the 5th of December
06:27where we are going to have two teams simultaneously working on the ground.
06:32We are going to be targeting two schools, two secondary schools in the eastern end of Tobago.
06:37And we are going to be engaging with the students and parents, giving them information,
06:43sensitizing them about digital violence, and even other information that we have deemed necessary
06:49and fit that they should know at this point in time.
06:52Now, whilst that is happening in the east, we are also going to have a team in the west
06:56at the Scarborough Port Mall, where we are going to be distributing pamphlets and flyers,
07:03and we are also going to have an officer on the PA system outside of the mall.
07:07Encouraging persons to come in and to be a part of the event and to learn something,
07:14get information that they can use to protect themselves and their homes
07:18and, by extension, their families.
07:20What other activities can we expect over that two-week period
07:24when this activism drive will be in full swing?
07:29We have six regions within the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
07:34And all six regions contain a special Victims Department office.
07:40And every office is going to be engaging specifically.
07:44Right?
07:44So we did not just use a broad brush and said that all regions will do this one thing.
07:50We have left it up to the leaders in their regions because, you know, they are going to be aware
07:56and they are going to know the culture of the people there
07:59and what they can better use to reach the people because it's about meeting the people.
08:06And as you know, and as we know, we could understand and we could appreciate,
08:10one of the pillars in the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service is the restoration
08:14or the restoring of public trust and confidence.
08:17We are working towards that because that public trust and confidence, unfortunately, has eroded over time.
08:25And so we are working to build that back.
08:28And in building that back, we are going to be underground with the public.
08:32We are going to be interacting with them.
08:34We are going to be sensitizing them, giving them information that they can use to better equip themselves.
08:40All six regions, you know, it's going to be great.
08:43It's going to be an awesome event from the 25th of November to the 10th of December, 16 days of activism.
08:50All right. So I'm sure in the coming weeks, we will hear more about this 16 days of activism
08:56from our various police officers who will obviously be visiting on the show.
09:01And I'm sure we're going to be seeing some snippets from Tobago as well as Trinidad of those activities, rather.
09:08Definitely.
09:09All right. So we have a video here to show you.
09:13It was caught in camera in the Arima District, allegedly,
09:16of men trying to rob a gyro vendor in that area.
09:21With a quick response by police, suspects were detained almost in a couple of minutes.
09:30So you're seeing here the suspects being taken away by police officers
09:35who obviously in quick time responded to the attempted robbery.
09:41Corporal, sorry, PC.
09:48Yes.
09:49When you look at something like that, you will immediately think to yourself,
09:55this is what we need in Trinidad and Tobago.
09:59Because crime is everybody's business.
10:02Crime affects every individual in one way or the other.
10:06And so we would have to appreciate the fact that information was able to go quick enough
10:13that the would-be perpetrators were held within a quick time.
10:19And so they will be taken before the court and brought before the court to answer according to law.
10:24What we encourage the public, crime is everybody's business.
10:27And we have come across, or we have come into a time where persons might be reluctant
10:33to give and to share information.
10:36I am, you know, trying to encourage the public at this point in time.
10:40This is 2025, and there are several mediums and means that have been set up to protect you,
10:45the individual, in terms of giving the information.
10:48All you have to do is give the information.
10:50And the faster you give the information is the faster you will have responses by the police
10:54because there's always officers patrolling, and one of the reasons for patrolling
10:58is towards detecting and preventing crime in any district.
11:04So hats off to those that would have given the information
11:06and to the officers that would have responded within quick time, quick succession,
11:11and, you know, brought that situation to a proper end.
11:15Yes, yes, indeed.
11:16All right, so apart from that arrest, the police were busy at work over the last 24 hours.
11:24There were firearms and ammunition seized when they first started last night
11:29and ended around 1 a.m. this morning in the Freeport District,
11:33led by Senior Superintendent Baguenteen and supervised by Sergeant Harriott.
11:38During an exercise, a male suspect looked in the direction of the marked police vehicle
11:42and fled into nearby bushes.
11:44A search of the area led to the recovery of a backpack containing a Smith & Wesson .38 special revolver,
11:51a flashlight and screwdriver, a stainless steel canister containing 12-gauge shotgun cartridges,
11:595.56 ammunition, 3 rounds, 16 rounds of 9mm, and 17 rounds of .357 magnum ammunition.
12:09Of course, the exercises did not end there.
12:12Between the hours of 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. this morning, officers of the Inter-Agency Task Force
12:18conducted mobile patrols within the Northeastern and Port of Spain Division.
12:23And in the San Juan area, approximately around 2.45 this morning,
12:27the procedure was observed discarding a silver-colored revolver.
12:32The firearm, a Torres-Brazil revolver, loaded with 2.38 special rounds, was seized.
12:39During the exercise conducted in the Northeastern Division,
12:43officers proceeded to join Strasse Quarry Road San Juan,
12:47where they observed a male suspect holding what appeared to be a firearm.
12:51The suspect complied with the officer's commands,
12:54and he dropped the weapon and was detained.
12:57The firearm was a black and silver revolver containing three rungs of ammunition, was seized.
13:03The suspect, a 43-year-old man of Quarry Road San Juan,
13:06was arrested for possession of firearm and ammunition
13:08and transported to the San Juan Police Station,
13:12where the firearm and ammunition were processed by the crime scene investigators.
13:18Mark, the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
13:22we are made up of a team of professionals,
13:24and we remain resolute and committed to ensuring that Trinidad and Tobago is a safe place.
13:31And based on that, you would find a lot of exercises taking place,
13:37a lot of operations taking place within all six regions,
13:41within the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, within Trinidad and Tobago,
13:44and as we can see, those exercises are proving to be very fruitful.
13:48Now, there is going to be more information I would not be able to give out on national television,
13:55but what I would say is that there are going to be more exercises,
13:59and so this is a caution to anyone looking to get into a life of crime,
14:04looking to perpetrate any kind of criminal activity,
14:07or looking to have any kind of nefarious intent.
14:10that we are on the ground, and we are going to find out who you are eventually,
14:15and we are going to be dealing with you according to what the law prescribes,
14:20within the ambits of the law, and what the law permits.
14:22So this is a direct warning to all would-be criminals and, you know,
14:27persons who might have intentions not aligning with what the law permits for citizens.
14:35Yes, indeed.
14:36All right, just an update, of course, confirmation by the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
14:41escaped prisoner recaptured in Karenage.
14:45The Trinidad and Tobago Police Service confirms that inmate Jamal Joseph,
14:49who escaped from the Carrera convict prison on November 14th,
14:52has been recaptured following a coordinated response between police officers
14:56and the Trinidad and Tobago Prison Service.
14:59Around 3 p.m. on Monday, officers of the Karenage Police Station received information
15:03from prison personnel that the escaped inmate had been spotted along the western main road
15:08in the vicinity of the Tempeldora Park.
15:12Police officers and mobile patrols immediately responded to the report
15:15and met with prison officers already on the scene.
15:19According to reports, while driving south along the western main road
15:22around 2.30, a prison officer observed an unusual object in the water
15:27that arouses suspicion.
15:29Upon checking further, he identified the object as the escaped inmate,
15:32who appeared to have sustained multiple injuries during his escape.
15:36Of course, he was later detained and taken back into prison custody.
15:43We are happy that he was, in fact, detained and taken to prison
15:48because at the end of the day, we cannot have escaped persons or criminals
15:54running around in public not knowing what they might want to do
15:59or what they might want to get themselves involved in.
16:02And so hats off to the prison officer that would have made certain observations
16:05and, you know, would have communicated those observations to the relevant authority,
16:09the relevant officers.
16:10And so, again, we have had some success where that is concerned
16:14in recapturing that escaped prisoner.
16:16You know, it is unfortunate that he would have injured himself,
16:19but it only goes to show, you know, the extent someone would go to achieve freedom.
16:24That's it.
16:25It's not every day that somebody tries to get off Carrera prison from that island, yeah?
16:30Maybe he wasn't fully informed as to what it entails trying to escape a place like Carrera.
16:36So I think I hope, you know, the other prisoners use him as an example.
16:42Yeah.
16:43All right.
16:44So switching to the nation's roadways, of course,
16:47somewhat of a familiar site that you have been seeing over the last couple of months,
16:52somewhere in the Mausica area along the highway today,
16:57a vehicle burst into flames, several motorists, of course, passing by there.
17:04We believe that the occupant or occupants of that vehicle would have gotten out safely.
17:10And, of course, we always urge motorists when you see something like that,
17:16try not to go too close because you never know what the burning vehicle might pose.
17:22You know, another explosion, there's a gas tank there.
17:26Of course, wait for the fire officials to get there and deal with this promptly.
17:33In addition, you know, something like this, we always encourage members of the public,
17:39please wait until the necessary persons or authorities get on the scene
17:45to deal with their aspect of the situation, police officers, the fire officers, and so on.
17:51But one thing I recognize in the video is that that video was taken by a passerby.
17:57Yes.
17:58You know, that is something that we are happy that when things like this happen,
18:04persons would take a video.
18:05But we also want to encourage persons to render aid where it is necessary.
18:10So it's not just about taking a video and putting on social media for likes
18:13or to encourage or foster communication and foster talks about the incident.
18:18But as a matter of fact, it also is an aspect of law where one should render aid
18:23when something like this happens.
18:25You know, it is unfortunate.
18:27And I must, you know, say that I'm sorry that the driver and if there were any occupants
18:32in the vehicle would have had to experience that kind of situation.
18:36I hope no one was seriously injured.
18:39But we just want to tell persons, please be careful on a nation's roads,
18:44hooking up and, you know, doing your own things in terms of electric,
18:49that kind of running your own wire and hooking up your own music.
18:52Yes, you might want to save a few dollars.
18:54But in the end and in the long run, you might have something like this happening
18:57because, you know, we have seen quite a number of incidents where cars, you know,
19:01proceeding along the roadway and just suddenly burst into flames.
19:04You would see persons just suddenly stop a car and get out of the vehicle
19:08because the car is on flames.
19:10And when you look and when you get into the investigation,
19:12you recognize that they would have tried to hook up and to connect their own wires,
19:18not knowing, you know, wires have different gauge levels and, you know,
19:21the science behind it is not just about connecting a wire to a battery, right?
19:25Wires can melt and, you know, you need to know what is happening.
19:29I'm not saying that this is what happened here.
19:30I'm just, you know, admonishing the public and trying to encourage persons to do the right thing
19:35and, you know, be safe when we use the nation's roads.
19:38Yes, indeed.
19:40All right.
19:40It's day 124 of the state of emergency and we just want to bring you up to speed with the figures.
19:47Number of operations, 9,070.
19:49Target priority offenders, 2,975.
19:53Searches conducted, 60,529.
19:56Traffic operations, 6,366.
19:59Total persons arrested, 3,963.
20:02Total persons charged, 2,310.
20:05Traffic offenses detected, 35,170.
20:09Firearms recovered in total, 216.
20:11Arise then revolvers of 56.
20:13Ammunition recovered in total, 2,794 wrongs.
20:17Arise in 9mm of 1,463 wrongs.
20:20Arise in 12 gauge of 161 wrongs.
20:23Arise in 5.56 of 515 wrongs.
20:27Arise in 0.38 of 195 wrongs.
20:30Arise in 0.357 of 36 wrongs.
20:33Dangerous drug sees 799,548.68 grams of cannabis, 10,888.14 grams of cocaine.
20:44Estacy and MOLLE remains the same.
20:47216 firearms, Mark.
20:50That is very good.
20:51We need to get all the firearms off the streets.
20:54The state of emergency is still in effect and we are encouraging the public, please cooperate with the officers.
21:01There is a reason for the state of emergency.
21:04It will not last forever.
21:05I know persons might be getting a little bit agitated, you know, wanting to come out of a state of emergency.
21:10But we need to remember and appreciate the fact that it was put in place for a particular purpose and a particular reason.
21:17And based on the figures that you would have just read to the public, Mark,
21:20it seems and it means that the state of emergency has indeed and in fact proven to be very effective in what the aim and, you know,
21:29what the goal and the objective was for having it in the first place.
21:33So very good.
21:35Very good work to the officers and all stakeholders that were responsible in being able to achieve what was achieved by virtue of the information that you would have just read out.
21:45Yes, indeed.
21:46All right, let's quickly take a look now at our headlines.
22:15So those are some of the headlines over the last 24 hours.
22:24We're going to take a short break and when we come back, we'll have more.
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24:40Welcome back to Beyond Zip.
24:41I'm your host, Mark Gossan.
24:42And, of course, joined today by Police Constable Damien Mills
24:45of the Special Victims Unit in the Tobago Division.
24:50All right.
24:50We can't emphasize enough, you know, the importance of educating your children,
24:55of course.
24:55And we talk about school violence every day.
24:57And we're seeing it still rearing its ugly head on social media.
25:01That's right.
25:02And we wanted to show you this video captured here
25:05involving a fracker with several students at a school, I believe, in East Trinidad.
25:14And certainly, both parties were wearing school uniforms there.
25:19And it's really, there's so many persons standing around there looking at this fight
25:24where, you know, there seems to be weapons also involved of some sort.
25:29At the end, the back end of the, you see, missiles are also being thrown.
25:35And we have to often wonder, you know, students are, you see, there was a missile also thrown there.
25:41Students are also filming this.
25:43Rather than go and get some kind of assistance or help,
25:47they are more comfortable filming these events,
25:50which obviously not only embarrasses the students involved, but the school.
25:55The school, because.
25:56And a whole.
25:57They are wearing the school's uniform.
25:59But a couple things.
26:00One, social media and the craze and, you know,
26:05the addiction to social media by our young generation.
26:09One of the reasons they film these videos is simply for recognition
26:14and simply to encourage some sort of discussion, some sort of talk, some sort of laughter.
26:21That is a very violent encounter, as you know, is evident right there.
26:25And I'm certain that there might have been serious injury
26:28because we are looking at one of the young men would have received a blow to the head.
26:33Now, these things don't affect you immediately.
26:36Sometimes there's a delayed effect.
26:37And in that delayed effect, sometimes the consequences and, you know,
26:41the results can be very, very, very serious.
26:46When fights like these happen, one of the things we have to look at
26:51is what normally would be the responses of the parents.
26:55And when I say parents, I'm talking about parents of the aggressors.
26:59Right.
27:00Now, I am not lashing or attacking parents,
27:02but what I'm simply stating is that when we recognize as parents,
27:08because I'm a parent myself,
27:09and when we recognize that our children are engaging themselves in violence,
27:13we need to take a stance.
27:15You would recognize that, you know, sometime,
27:18I think it was yesterday or the day before,
27:19a mother would have brought her son to the station
27:21because he would have allegedly conducted a robbery using a cutlass,
27:26took away a cell phone from an individual.
27:28And this is the kind of response and this is the kind of act that we want our parents to engage in.
27:34Do not encourage your child to get themselves involved in this kind of event.
27:41Long ago, we used to tell our children, don't take anybody lash.
27:45But by extension, when you say don't take lash from anybody,
27:49you are telling your child to retaliate.
27:52And when you retaliate, obviously, you're going to have a fight.
27:54When you have fights, you have serious injuries,
27:57you have offenses, you know, the law being breached and so on,
28:00and you are going to have charges coming out of that.
28:04When you are charged, this goes against your record.
28:07And this is one of the things we want our children to know.
28:09Now, we have police officers in schools now.
28:11And persons, I can already hear them saying,
28:15but there's police officers in the schools.
28:17Why, you know, why isn't this stopping?
28:19But police officers are on the streets.
28:22Why isn't crime stopping?
28:24The factor and the point I'm making is this is a collective effort.
28:29It should be a collective effort.
28:31We need to remove and, you know, to move away from depending on the police to do everything.
28:36And everyone is supposed to put a hand and render aid again
28:40and do something to avoid, you know, situations and circumstances such as these.
28:45We need to let our children know that, listen, there are consequences for your actions.
28:49We cannot continue to live and to have our children going about thinking that there aren't consequences.
28:55My father always used to talk about tough love.
28:58Sometimes as a parent, you have to take a decision that, you know, might hurt you,
29:03but in the long run, it's within the best interest and for the best interest of the child.
29:08This is quite unfortunate, and I really do hope that there were no serious injuries.
29:12But I really also hope that those perpetrators, the aggressors and so on,
29:17those responsible not only for the actual physical encounter, but those filming,
29:23because filming a fight is encouraging the fight.
29:26Yeah.
29:26I hope that consequences are meted out, and, you know, it goes in the way it is supposed to go
29:33in terms of teaching these young men that this is a total no-no,
29:37and we are not going to stand and support this in any way.
29:41We have taken a zero-tolerance step, as, you know, as is evident in terms and with respect to school violence.
29:49Children are now going to be charged.
29:50Whenever we do lectures in Tobago and so on, we tell parents, yes, there's bullying,
29:58but there's no legislation governing the term bullying.
30:02There's a definition, you know, if you Google the term bullying, there's a definition there.
30:05But you would not be able to look through any law book and see a legal term for bullying.
30:11So what do we do?
30:13Do we throw our hands up in the air and say, Jesus, take the wheel?
30:15Do we throw our hands up in the air and see what other avenues the law prescribes?
30:22And I want to talk about, if permitted...
30:25Let's stick a pin there.
30:26All right.
30:27We actually have a caller on the line.
30:28Caller, good evening and welcome to be on the team.
30:31Good afternoon.
30:32Good evening, Mr. Mark Bassard.
30:34I'm a frequent caller, and this is the first time I'm engaging you,
30:40and I want to welcome you from the vantage of our stakeholders.
30:45I listen attentively to your call for citizens like myself to work with the police to get it right.
30:57But, sir, this has been going on far too long, and we have lost...
31:03I have lost confidence in the police service.
31:05And this is what is happening currently to a broken TTPF.
31:13On September the 9th, the Minister of Defense, while addressing a batch of recruits,
31:21he turned to the executive of the police service, and he told them,
31:28we have no vacancy, we have a police commissioner.
31:33If you, and this is my take on it, and he is telling them,
31:37if you don't want to work with us, give me the piece of paper.
31:42Yesterday or the day before, he was at another ceremony, batch 3 and a batch 4, 2024,
31:49and he told the young police officer,
31:52you know what he said?
31:56He said, we don't need officers, more TTPF officers.
32:04We need good police officers,
32:08because quite recently, he had three or four police officers have been arrested,
32:13particularly in the central area.
32:14So I want to know, based on the utterances of the Minister of Defense,
32:23based on the electorate recently, where we voted for change,
32:29because crime has been a problem,
32:32how will the police service as an entity
32:37going to respond to the Minister of Defense?
32:41Because I believe, from my own call on it,
32:44Caller, do you mean the Minister of Homeland Security?
32:47Caller, caller, caller, do you mean the Minister of Homeland Security?
32:47We have to sanitize all the errant police officers.
32:50Caller, caller, caller, caller, on.
32:52We have an executive, a lot of damaging judgment,
32:56and by extension, we have, and I'm saying it,
32:59and I'm making no apology,
33:01we have a lame police service commission.
33:03So the police service itself,
33:07the officers have to put all the discrepancies,
33:13all the bathroom, and move the police officers.
33:16So I could say, the mantra of the police,
33:18to protect and serve, they are faithful to that,
33:21and they provide a good security for me.
33:24I'm going to have an icing.
33:24Caller, one second.
33:26Sorry?
33:26I do believe you might be,
33:30I think you meant the Minister of Homeland Security
33:33who was at that passing out.
33:34Yes, yes, thanks, Mr. Bassan.
33:36And before I go, Mr. Bassan,
33:38I want to pose another question to you.
33:41Today, Congress, U.S. Congress,
33:45voted 427, or 17 to 1,
33:51to release the pedophile information on Epstein.
33:57We have an outstanding information on
34:01SACA 97 report.
34:04Today, Jones,
34:05and he had a senator calling out names.
34:09Mark, if me and you go for me,
34:12we could investigate that.
34:13I'm going to have a nice evening.
34:15All right, Caller,
34:16thanks so much for your always insightful,
34:18your input.
34:22Do you want to quickly respond, sir?
34:24The caller would have mentioned
34:26certain utterances being made
34:28by the Minister of Homeland Security.
34:30I would not be able to comment on that
34:31because I did not have a chance to see the video
34:34or to hear the contribution made
34:37by the goodly minister.
34:39But what I would say,
34:40and I think I was able to understand
34:42briefly what he was trying to say,
34:44what I would respond to that statement
34:47that he made in terms of the officer
34:48and the errant officers and so on.
34:50When an officer goes into the barracks to train,
34:55sometimes we or the public
34:57seems to forget that this officer
34:59is still a human being
35:00when he comes out of training.
35:02And so we could change
35:04a person's ability to do police work,
35:06but we cannot change their personality.
35:09And that is one of the reasons
35:10why there is training ongoing officers
35:13not just train in the barracks
35:16and come out and go through the entire service
35:18without training and retraining.
35:19So as we speak,
35:21there is training happening.
35:22The commissioner is very serious
35:24in terms of the product
35:26that we put out there
35:27for the public
35:28and the officers that we put out there
35:31having to interact with the public.
35:33And so officers are going to continuously be trained,
35:37especially within the realms of public service
35:40and customer service.
35:43So just do not use that situation
35:46or your personal situations
35:48as a rubric
35:50to paint with a broad brush
35:52every police officer out there.
35:53There are still officers out there
35:55that diligently do and perform
35:58the function and the rules
35:59that they have been mandated to do.
36:01It's not every day going to meet an officer
36:03or an alleged corrupt officer.
36:07So I still hold to the fact
36:09that I'm encouraging all of us
36:11to work with the police
36:13in terms of getting the country
36:15to a safer perspective
36:17and a safer position
36:18so that we can all be comfortable.
36:21Officers are going to be trained
36:22whenever we recognize
36:23that there is need for training.
36:26That training happens
36:27and those officers that are identified
36:30as having that need
36:32would be sent to receive that kind of training
36:35and come back out into the public
36:36and to perform their duties
36:37and their rules
36:38and their functions accordingly.
36:40All right.
36:40Thanks a lot so much, PC Mills.
36:42Let's take a short break
36:42and we'll be back with more.
36:44Stay with us.
36:45As parents and teachers,
36:47we came together to establish
36:49the National Council
36:50of Parent Teacher Association
36:52because we firmly believe
36:53that there is greater strength in unity.
36:56Today, our schools face real challenges,
37:00bullying, violence, and fear.
37:03No parent should send a child to school
37:05and wonder if they will be safe.
37:08No teacher should walk into a classroom
37:10afraid of losing control.
37:13That's why we welcome
37:14the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service
37:17into our schools.
37:19They bring expertise.
37:20They bring skill
37:22and most importantly,
37:23they bring the reassurance
37:25that learning can happen in peace.
37:28We believe in unity.
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39:59Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
40:15I'm your host,
40:15Mark Masson,
40:15of course,
40:16joined today by
40:17PC Damien Mills
40:18of the Special Victims Unit
40:20from the Tobago Division.
40:22And we just want to bring you
40:24up to speed
40:24with a couple of
40:25police service TTPS town meetings
40:28across Trinidad and Tobago.
40:30Of course,
40:31there is one
40:32happening in Woodbrook
40:33today.
40:35It started already.
40:36Sorry,
40:36tomorrow.
40:37I'm getting ahead
40:38of myself here.
40:39Tomorrow,
40:40Wednesday at 6 p.m.
40:41in Woodbrook
40:42at the Holiness Revival Ministries
40:44Woodbrook.
40:46Of course,
40:46if you have any concerns,
40:48any suggestions
40:48to make your community safer,
40:51this is the place
40:52to come out
40:52and voice your concerns
40:54and have an interaction
40:55with the officers.
40:57Then there's also
40:58another one
40:59in the St. Clair area
41:00for the Spain Division
41:01on Thursday
41:03at 6 p.m.
41:05It's at the
41:06Queen's Royal College
41:07Auditorium.
41:09And,
41:09of course,
41:10it's a time
41:11where you can come out,
41:12meet the officers,
41:13have a conversation
41:14with them,
41:14get to know
41:15your police officers
41:16in your area.
41:18And,
41:18you know,
41:18it's that kind
41:19of interaction
41:20gives you
41:21a more comfortable
41:22feeling
41:23when you have
41:23to go back
41:24to them
41:24to talk
41:25about something.
41:26That's why
41:26I would have
41:26mentioned earlier
41:27restoring public trust
41:28and confidence
41:29as one of the
41:30strategic pillars
41:30within the TTPS,
41:31Mark.
41:32The last caller
41:33would have even
41:34made mention about it.
41:36He said
41:36quite,
41:37you know,
41:37expressively
41:38that he had
41:38lost confidence
41:40in the Trinidad
41:40and Tobago
41:40Police Service.
41:42Why is that
41:42did hurt
41:43to hear him say
41:44this only goes
41:47to show
41:47why there is
41:48need for
41:48what is
41:49happening there
41:49in terms
41:49of the
41:50various
41:50town meetings.
41:52These town
41:52meetings,
41:54the 16 days
41:54of activism
41:55and all
41:56these programs
41:57that we
41:57as the Trinidad
41:58and Tobago
41:59Police Service
41:59are coming out
42:00with and
42:01establishing
42:01is all geared
42:03towards partnering
42:04with the public
42:05and ensuring,
42:06you know,
42:06that we can
42:07foster some
42:08sort of
42:08relationship,
42:09some sort
42:09of partnership
42:10with the public
42:11so that,
42:12you know,
42:12the public
42:13or the persons
42:14and members
42:14of the public
42:15can get to
42:16form that bond
42:17and form
42:17and rekindle
42:18that relationship
42:19that was lost
42:20with the police,
42:21right,
42:21because that is
42:22what we are about,
42:23that is our aim,
42:24that is one
42:24of our objectives.
42:25We cannot
42:26fight crime
42:27effectively
42:29without the
42:30express help
42:32of the public
42:33and we want
42:35to encourage
42:36members of the public
42:37come out
42:38to the town
42:39meetings,
42:40make,
42:41you know,
42:41your comments,
42:43make your suggestions,
42:44interact with the
42:45police officers,
42:46you know,
42:47get to know us,
42:48get to know that,
42:49listen,
42:49we are not just about
42:50arresting and charging
42:51but we are also about
42:52partnering with the public
42:53and other various
42:54stakeholders
42:55all towards making
42:56Trinidad and Tobago
42:57a safer place
42:59that we can all
43:00share and live
43:01in comfortably.
43:03Yes, indeed.
43:04All right,
43:04remember the numbers
43:05to call 623-1711
43:07extensions
43:081996 and 1997
43:10and while we wait
43:11for your calls,
43:12I just wanted to bring
43:13you to your attention,
43:15officer.
43:16Today the police
43:17service released
43:18another media release
43:19involving a teen
43:20that was found
43:20with cannabis
43:21and a weapon
43:22at a secondary school.
43:24Apparently,
43:25a police officer
43:25was at that school
43:27and saw the
43:28student acting
43:30suspiciously
43:30and the behavior
43:32aroused the officer's
43:33concern
43:34and he alerted
43:35the school's
43:35safety officer
43:36and principal
43:37requesting their
43:38presence
43:38as he carried out
43:39a search
43:40where he would
43:41have followed protocol.
43:42While escorting
43:43the student
43:43to the principal's
43:44office to conduct
43:45the search
43:46in a private setting,
43:48the officer noticed
43:48the student
43:49handing a rag
43:50to another pupil.
43:51The officer
43:52immediately intervened,
43:53retrieved the rag
43:54and upon checking it
43:55in the presence
43:56of the principal
43:56and safety officer
43:57found a translucent
43:59plastic bag
44:00containing 15 packets
44:02of cannabis.
44:04The substance
44:04was later weighed
44:05in their presence
44:06and amounted
44:06to 10 grams.
44:08A further search
44:09of that student
44:09revealed a concealed
44:11dangerous weapon,
44:12a pocket knife
44:13approximately 4 inches
44:15in length.
44:16The principal
44:17and safety officer
44:18contacted the Valencia
44:19police station
44:19and officers
44:20from the cops unit
44:22responded.
44:23The student was taken
44:24to the Sannegani
44:25police station
44:25where his mother
44:26later arrived
44:27and of course
44:28he was later taken
44:30by officers
44:31to the Sannegani
44:33hospital
44:34where a police
44:35medical certificate
44:36was obtained
44:36in his favor
44:37and he was later
44:38conveyed to the
44:39booking center
44:39Maracas St. Joseph
44:40pending placement
44:41at the juvenile suite
44:42after consultation
44:43with duty council.
44:46Mark Commendations
44:47goes out to that officer
44:48for his diligent effort
44:50in detecting
44:51that situation
44:52with the young man,
44:53with the student
44:54but you know
44:55it also begs
44:56the question
44:56how did this young man
44:59get into the schools
45:00compound
45:01with what he would
45:03have been
45:03allegedly in possession
45:05of?
45:05So this means
45:07that we would now
45:07have to increase
45:08our efforts
45:09in terms of searching
45:10we would have to
45:11if it has not
45:12been already established
45:13we would have to
45:14increase in efforts
45:15in searching children
45:16as they enter
45:16the schools compound
45:17and put better
45:18mediums and measures
45:19in place
45:20towards searching
45:21children
45:21as they enter
45:22the schools compound
45:23because let's say
45:25the officer
45:25was not at that
45:26location at that time
45:27this child would have
45:29been able to get
45:29into school
45:30and do whatever
45:32he would
45:32you know
45:33his intention was
45:34with that
45:35you know
45:35drugs and
45:36other objects
45:37that he would have
45:38had
45:38that he was not
45:39supposed to have
45:40at school at that time
45:41the young man
45:42will be dealt with
45:43according to law
45:44and he will be
45:46treated not only
45:48in relation to
45:50what he was
45:51found with
45:52but he would also
45:53be treated with
45:55psychologically
45:55because when we
45:57you know
45:57when children are held
45:58it is not just about
46:00charging them
46:02right
46:02whilst there may be
46:03charges
46:04it is not just about
46:05charging
46:05it is about
46:06seeing about
46:07that you know
46:08that whole
46:08social aspect
46:09of it
46:10they will look
46:12at his living
46:12conditions
46:13they will look at
46:14you know
46:14circumstances
46:15that you know
46:16he is experiencing
46:18at home
46:18at school
46:20they will look at
46:21him holistically
46:21and so
46:23that is one of the
46:24things that
46:24I am happy
46:25and one of the
46:25reasons I am happy
46:26that he was found
46:27in good enough time
46:29that proper intervention
46:31could have taken place
46:32again
46:32commendations
46:33goes out to the
46:34officer
46:34and I will ask
46:36that he continues
46:37and all other
46:38officers continue
46:39to keep up
46:39the good work
46:40in relation to
46:41crime detection
46:41and crime prevention
46:43yes indeed
46:45all right
46:46I think
46:46we have a call
46:47on the line
46:48do we producer
46:49yes we have a call
46:52on the line
46:52call a good evening
46:53and welcome
46:53to be on the
46:53team
46:54good evening
46:56to you
46:57and let me
46:59first commend
46:59the good work
47:00that you all
47:01are doing
47:02and
47:05hope that
47:07you know
47:07the public
47:08buying to
47:09the councils
47:11and advise
47:12and prescriptions
47:13that you all
47:14are submitting
47:15further
47:17I want to commend
47:19the officer
47:20from Tobago
47:22I know him
47:22as
47:23well from
47:24he knows me well
47:26and I'm just
47:26calling to applaud
47:28his growth
47:30in the police service
47:31I know when he started
47:34I know when he went
47:36on his various
47:37courses
47:39to improve himself
47:41and to see him
47:42there tonight
47:43it boiled my heart
47:45and I'm happy for him
47:46he knows who I am
47:48yes he knows who I am
47:52so congratulations
47:53and keep up the good work
47:54thank you very much
47:56caller
47:57I must say
47:58I did not quite
47:59recognize the voice
48:00however I'm sure
48:01when I get back to Tobago
48:03you would come see me
48:04at my station
48:04and we would have
48:05a nice chat
48:05so thank you very much
48:06for the commendations
48:07and continue to have
48:09a wonderful evening
48:10and continue to call in
48:11on the program
48:12and give you know
48:13contributions
48:13yes indeed
48:14thanks so much
48:15caller
48:15okay we're going to
48:16take a short break
48:17and when we come back
48:17we'll have more
48:18all right guys
48:20today we're going to
48:21start a new topic
48:22and that topic
48:22is entitled
48:23there is no way
48:37I could teach in
48:38all that noise
48:39and there is
48:40definitely no way
48:41we children could
48:42learn in that
48:43noise of violence
48:45they deserve more
48:46that fear
48:48that anxiety
48:49we have to have
48:51our classrooms
48:52filled with joy
48:53laughter
48:54and hope
48:54not fear
48:56that is why
48:58I support
48:58the TCPS
48:59school-oriented
49:00policing initiatives
49:02this is not just
49:03about law enforcement
49:05it's about
49:06building trust
49:07parents
49:09teachers
49:10students
49:11and officers
49:12all coming together
49:14to provide a safe
49:15space
49:16where young minds
49:17can flourish
49:18if we all stand
49:21side by side
49:22we can protect
49:23our children
49:24keep them safe
49:26and they could have
49:27a space
49:28to learn
49:29without anxiety
49:30and fear
49:32I am ready
49:33to partner
49:34with the TCPS
49:35in fostering
49:37safe
49:37respectful
49:38and empowered
49:40schools
49:40across
49:41Shenandoah
49:42and Tobago
49:43it's not a
49:44simple task
49:44we need parents
49:46students
49:47teachers
49:48and communities
49:49to get involved
49:51it's time
49:52to get on board
49:53securing our schools
49:56securing our future
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52:07I'm going to
52:08again
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52:19Welcome back to Beyond the Tape, I'm your host Mark Vasant, of course joined today
52:48by PC Damien Mills of the Special Victims Unit from the Tobago Division, I think we have
52:53a call on the line, Kuala good evening and welcome to be on the tape, excuse me, good
52:58night to you all, excuse me, just go ahead Kuala, good night, good night, good night,
53:04good night, good evening, well you know I have a big support of the police, but in recent
53:15time, my friends, yet who can we trust, can we trust the police, who can we trust to protect
53:30we and we family, you understand, because at the end of the day, what's so much police involving
53:38corruption and crime, the police is the, who is looking to protect us on our daily business,
53:45I must go, our police program one or two times picking up the police for the good job they're
53:51doing, but it is reaching unbearable now, where the police is getting involved in too much corrupted
54:01things matter, and we cannot continue to go that way in the police service, because we set us
54:12up to Nanabigo, look up to the police service, have a blessed night.
54:18Alright, thanks a lot Kuala, PC Melz.
54:22If not the police, Mark, then who? I feel, you know, the emotion from the caller, the last
54:29caller there, and I, you know, I stand in solidarity with her, with respect to what she would have
54:35mentioned, but I also want to say that our officers are hard working officers, and we leave our homes
54:43daily and we go out there not knowing if we are going to return home.
54:46Yeah.
54:47I also want to mention that the Commissioner of Police has taken a zero tolerance approach
54:53on corruption, malice, ill will, and nefarious intentions by police officers, and so any officer
55:01found to be corrupt or involved in anything unto what is going to be dealt with according to law.
55:06As for the remaining police officers, we are going to continue to be resolute and steadfast
55:13in the way we do policing, and in the way we interact with members of the public.
55:18Again, we are engaging in several different areas where we can communicate and, you know,
55:25interact and engage with the public towards rebuilding that trust, because remember I started
55:30by saying that trust and that confidence has eroded over time, and so our aim and our effort
55:37is to try to rebuild that, because we want to foster partnership with not only stakeholders,
55:43but with members of the public. And so I want to say to all persons listening and viewing
55:49from wherever you might be, if you see something, please continue to say something. Additionally,
55:55if you know something, please say something. There are several mediums that have been set up.
56:02If you might have an issue with trust, no problem. You can send or give information anonymously.
56:09But at the end of the day, we all have to live here, and we all have to play our part towards
56:14ridding this country of crime, or at least bring it down to a level where, you know, we can continue to remain safe.
56:20Mr. Mills, let's take one more. Thank you. Let's take one more caller call. You have to be very short.
56:24Good evening and welcome to be on the tape.
56:26Thank you very much. I'll be very short. Mark Vasanton, the senior officer there.
56:30I just want to congratulate the police yesterday on such a beautiful, beautiful display of drill by the battery of 2501.
56:42I have one of my neighbors here, you know, who graduated and passed out yesterday.
56:49So I want to congratulate. Even I want to shout out one Inspector Grant. She was very courteous to me.
56:57There was a lot of very limited space under the heat tent, and she recognized me as a former senior officer
57:05in the defense port, and took my sister and my wife under the white chair.
57:09So I want to congratulate them, the way how they cried out yesterday, and the police.
57:14Our flag was flying high yesterday, and they did a wonderful job.
57:19Congratulations to the minister, who gave a very nice address, and the commissioner who also was there.
57:25Well done to the police. I salute the police this afternoon.
57:29Thanks so much, sir. All right, we have about a minute left, sir, or less than actually 30 seconds.
57:36Well, on behalf of the Commissioner of Police and other members or the senior officers of the 1st Division,
57:41I also want to say thank you to the last caller for the commendations.
57:44And I also want to say let's continue to do our part towards making Shinidad and Tobago a safe place once again.
57:52There was a time when any citizen could have left his windows and doors open and run into town and get some sugar and come back home.
57:59No, it's not like that. So we are trying to get it back to that area, get it back to that level.
58:05You know what, because as I said before, we all have to live here and we all have to share this space.
58:09Yes, the police service has been set up for the purpose of crime prevention and detection, but we also want the public to partner with us.
58:19So thank you again and do have a wonderful evening to members of the viewing and listening public.
58:24All right, thanks so much, PC Mills, for spending the last hour with us.
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