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01:46This is Mary
02:06Mary has bills to pay
02:09And takes a chance parking in front of the building
02:12At the no parking sign
02:14Mary returns to her car
02:15And this is what happens
02:18Mary decides to call when she's five minutes away
02:28To let her daughter know that she is close by
02:31But Mary forgot one thing
02:34Boy, second ticket for the day
02:37I don't know, I really don't know
02:39Well, I tell you
02:40After two tickets
02:41Mary just isn't paying attention to her speed
02:45Don't be like Mary
03:01Obey the laws of the rude
03:04A message from the TTPS
03:06Welcome to Beyond the Tape
03:24I'm your host Mark Wissand
03:25Welcome to our viewers across Trinidad and Tobago
03:27Our international viewers
03:29And of course our brothers and sisters
03:30In the Isles of Grenada
03:32Well, we certainly had some sun earlier today
03:34But we also got some heavy rainfall
03:37Just after lunch
03:38You know, we had some flash flooding
03:40In the Chamflare area
03:42Along the east-west corridors there
03:45And again, as we, you know
03:47We're in the rainy season
03:48We urge motorists to proceed with caution
03:51Because we expect to see a lot of scenes like this
03:55In the coming weeks
03:57Hopefully it would not be as bad
03:59But of course, you know
04:01Clearing your drains
04:02Not putting rubbish into the drains and so on
04:04But obviously alleviate or assist authorities
04:08In not having to tend to sit in, you know
04:11Incidents of landslides or flooding in specific areas
04:15And the talk of the tongue today
04:18Our two athletes out in Japan
04:20The World Athletics Championships
04:22We want to extend our heartiest congratulations to both
04:26Keyshawn Walcott throwing the javelin at 88.16 meters
04:31To land gold there
04:33And his fellow athlete and his fellow roommate
04:37About a half an hour or so
04:40After that, this morning
04:41Jareem Richards in the 400 meters landing silver
04:46Running from a very difficult lane
04:48Of course, lane two
04:49And the commentators did say
04:50You had to do a lot
04:51And he certainly did a lot
04:53Come around that backstretch there
04:54To land himself a silver medal
04:58Of course
04:59And we are very proud
05:00Of both our athletes
05:03Gold and silver
05:04And of course
05:05Representing the TTPS today
05:07Is none other than
05:08ASP
05:09Ishmael Pitt
05:10Of the Northern Division
05:12Who already has
05:13Three gold medals
05:14And a silver to his name
05:15What an introduction
05:19Thank you
05:19I will take it
05:20Yes
05:21Blessed evening
05:22Mark
05:22Blessed evening
05:23John Tobago
05:23Special shout out
05:25To the Tobago Division
05:27Of the John Tobago Police Service
05:28ACP
05:29Senior Superintendent
05:31Eli
05:32Superintendent Joseph
05:33And also
05:34Woman Corporal Kennedy
05:35Excellent
05:36We are coming out
05:38Of the Tobago Division
05:39And we always urge you
05:40To continue along that vein
05:42Hats off to our athletes
05:44They are definitely
05:45Continuing to fly the flag
05:46A tremendous amount of effort
05:48And we know that
05:49Hard work
05:50You literally
05:50Pays off
05:51At a level of success
05:52And of course
05:52You can't forget
05:53The tremendous victory
05:54Of TKL
05:55Yesterday
05:56You know
05:57When we played Antigua
06:00So you know
06:01It's been a good week
06:02So far
06:02It's been a good week
06:03Tomorrow night
06:04That's right
06:05When we play
06:05Senglucia
06:06To defend the champions
06:07Right
06:08Exactly
06:08Because they say
06:09Yesterday was yesterday
06:11Yes
06:12Today is today
06:13But we must look forward
06:14To tomorrow
06:14And it's what happens
06:16Tomorrow
06:17Is what is impactful
06:18So
06:19The build up is good
06:21The hype is good
06:22The energy is good
06:24But tomorrow
06:25We need our boys
06:26To perform
06:26And obviously
06:28I know the entirety
06:29Of Cheyenne Tobago
06:30Supports you
06:30Yes
06:30Just a correction
06:31Of course
06:32TKL played on Tuesday
06:33San Lucia
06:34Played last night
06:35Against Guyana
06:36Of course
06:36They lost
06:37And now
06:37They are going to be
06:38Playing TKL
06:40In the Eliminator
06:41The loser goes home
06:43The winner goes to the final
06:44To play Guyana
06:45In Guyana
06:46So that should be interesting
06:48And of course
06:49We talk about this topic
06:52Of police officers
06:53In the schools
06:53And really some good work
06:55By police
06:56Where they
06:57Intervened in a
06:58Suspected drug incident
06:59In the Northern Division
07:01And a secondary school
07:02And I know you can speak to it
07:04Because you are from that division
07:05You know
07:07Around 1130
07:08Officers attached to the school
07:10Oriented policing unit
07:11And acted swiftly on intelligence
07:12Yes
07:13Received and intercepted
07:14A male
07:14Form 1 student
07:16At a secondary school
07:17In the Northern
07:18Sorry
07:19Northern Division
07:20North District
07:21Upon searching the student
07:22A black package
07:23Containing plant
07:24Like material
07:25Resembling cannabis
07:26Along with wrapping paper
07:27Was discovered
07:28Of course
07:29He was
07:30Immediately cautioned
07:31And later taken
07:32To the commuter police station
07:33So we have incidents
07:35Of this cropping up
07:37Not now
07:38But previously
07:39You know
07:39Contraband in the schools
07:41Drugs etc
07:43And you know
07:44It's really
07:45I know the commissioner
07:46Would have commended
07:47The officers
07:47For their swift action
07:49In this particular incident
07:52Yes
07:52And we are there
07:54To treat with things
07:55In a real way
07:56Immediately
07:56Real time
07:57So to speak
07:57It's never
07:59You know
08:00A good feeling
08:01To have to arrest a child
08:02And more so
08:03Within the precincts
08:05Or the confines
08:05Of a school
08:06Yes
08:06So
08:07You know
08:08We have to do
08:09What we have to do
08:09In terms of
08:11The approach
08:12We know
08:12And we have said it
08:13It's going to be robust
08:15We believe that
08:16The methods
08:18That have been
08:19Utilized thus far
08:20It's effectiveness
08:21Or their effectiveness
08:22In itself
08:24Didn't bear the type
08:26Of change in behavior
08:27That we were looking for
08:28As a society
08:29So with this method
08:31Of approach
08:31Of course
08:32You are going to have
08:33A lot more robust
08:34Policing attached to it
08:35And you know
08:36For that reason
08:36We very well find
08:38Like in this instance
08:38A lot of our students
08:40Will have to account
08:41To the court
08:42Yeah
08:42And you're so right
08:44Because I know
08:45A lot of people
08:46Climb up for security
08:49Outside of normal security
08:50But for police
08:51In schools
08:52And then there's
08:53The others
08:53That are
08:54Dissenting voices
08:55That speak of
08:56Why
08:57And you know
08:57This
08:58Gun-toting officers
09:00And so on
09:01But you don't know
09:02What they have to deal with
09:03And they've been
09:03Properly trained
09:04Of course
09:05In this discipline
09:05They spend their time
09:07To ensure that
09:08These officers
09:08Are properly trained
09:10So that when they're
09:11Going to this environment
09:12They know what to expect
09:13And they know how to handle it
09:14To the best of their ability
09:16Of course
09:17Without crossing
09:18Any particular lines
09:19We have the principal
09:20And teachers
09:21But if it comes to
09:22A criminal offense
09:24In some nature
09:25Obviously the police
09:26Present there
09:27Will have to step in
09:28Yeah
09:28And you are absolutely correct
09:30Once it crosses that line
09:31To criminal behavior
09:33It's now for us to do
09:35What we ought to do
09:36Bring persons before the court
09:37Have them account
09:38As I said before
09:39It's no pleasure of ours
09:41In order to have to bring
09:42Children
09:43To court
09:44And to have them
09:45To account
09:46But it's the law
09:47Yeah
09:48And if it is that
09:49The build up
09:50That progressive type
09:51Of discipline
09:52Is not working
09:53And persons are bent
09:55On doing things
09:56That they ought not
09:56To be doing
09:57And they are not
09:58Recognizing the sanctity
10:00Of schools
10:01And preserving the peace
10:03Of schools
10:03Then we are going to
10:04Have to do
10:05What we have to do
10:06Yes
10:06You're so right
10:07And which brings us
10:09To our next video
10:11Rather
10:11Our next incident
10:13Related to what
10:14We have been speaking
10:14About of course
10:15A confrontation
10:16Between officers
10:18And a student
10:18At the school
10:19And I know you would
10:20Have recalled
10:20A couple days ago
10:22Last week
10:22Where it is alleged
10:24That the students
10:25Locked a police officer
10:26Into a classroom
10:27And this is allegedly
10:29The school
10:30Where this incident
10:31Also happened
10:31Let's take a look
10:32So you're seeing here
10:37The student
10:38And that is the officer
10:39They are having an exchange
10:41And I think
10:44There's two officers
10:45There's also a uniform officer
10:46But the lady in the pink
10:47I think she might be a teacher
10:49But there was some kind
10:52Of altercation
10:53And the police officers
10:55Came to inquire
10:56So the officers
11:05Are behind
11:05I want to believe
11:06It's the teacher
11:07In the front
11:07That is taking the student
11:08Probably to the
11:09To the dean's office
11:10As the case may be
11:11To rectify the situation
11:13And of course
11:14You know
11:14People start filming
11:16At a particular time
11:17Yes
11:18Yes
11:18We don't know
11:20The well particulars
11:20Before
11:21Or after
11:22And everybody
11:23Assume that the student
11:25Is right
11:25Or the student
11:27Might be wrong
11:27But obviously
11:28When we see
11:29The fullness
11:30Of the offense
11:31If it turns out
11:32To be an offense
11:33Maybe she needed
11:34Just to be spoken to
11:35And she was being
11:37Very you know
11:38Disobedient
11:39Or rude to the officers
11:41Then that's another
11:42Issue altogether
11:43Yeah
11:44That's another issue
11:45Altogether
11:45And you know
11:47Scenes like that
11:47It brings to bear
11:49The reality
11:50Of what we are facing
11:51In our nation schools
11:52Gone are the days
11:55When we could say
11:56Alright
11:56The police
11:57They are there
11:58And you know
11:59The students
12:00Will just conform
12:01Clearly
12:02It means that
12:04We have to have
12:04That additional layer
12:06Of intervention
12:07In order for persons
12:09To understand
12:09That if you behave
12:11A particular way
12:11You will have consequences
12:13Attached to it
12:14You know
12:14And it is sad
12:16Because you have
12:18Adults
12:19In the form
12:19Of educators
12:21You would have
12:22Security officers
12:23Now you have
12:24An additional layer
12:24Police officers
12:25And we are still
12:27Observing that type
12:28Of behavior
12:28That we really
12:29Don't expect
12:30To be seeing
12:31However
12:32I hasten to add
12:34That charity
12:35Begins at home
12:36Charity begins
12:38At home
12:39So
12:39There are persons
12:41Out there
12:41Who are responsible
12:42For children
12:43And they are
12:44Responsible largely
12:45For the way
12:46Their children behave
12:47Their mannerism
12:48Their values
12:49And their morals
12:50And if they are
12:51Not getting it
12:52In those
12:53Domains
12:54Then they are
12:55Going to replicate
12:55A particular type
12:56Of behavior
12:57In the school domain
12:58Yeah you are so right
12:59Yesterday I was
13:01In South Trinidad
13:02And one of the
13:03Questions we asked
13:03Is about students
13:04And so on
13:05And you would see
13:05Maybe next week
13:06But a lot of
13:07The persons
13:08That we spoke with
13:09A lot of adults
13:10Said that the
13:10Children of
13:11This age now
13:12They are
13:14Of a different ilk
13:15They seem to be
13:17Very indisciplined
13:19In some cases
13:19Especially when
13:20They are in schools
13:21And so on
13:21And you know
13:22They thought that
13:23The intervention
13:24Of the police
13:26In the schools
13:27Is actually a good
13:28Idea and they feel
13:29Seifer
13:29Some of them
13:31Of course
13:31Relating certain
13:32Situations
13:33With their own
13:34Children or their
13:35Grand children
13:36As the case may be
13:36Yeah yeah
13:37Correct yes
13:38And I know last week
13:39We spoke at length
13:40Regarding this
13:41Particular issue
13:42So we trust that
13:43Going forward
13:44We will be able
13:45To see and
13:45Recognize the type
13:46Of behavioral change
13:48That you know
13:49Society so demands
13:50Yes
13:51Alright so
13:52The Trinidad
13:53Antonego police
13:54Service
13:55A student
13:55Media release
13:56Earlier today
13:57Of course
13:57Involving a police
13:58Shooting incident
13:59Where one man
14:01Known as Elmo
14:02Was shot and killed
14:02Apparently officers
14:04Were on patrol
14:05Interagency
14:06Task force
14:07Near the
14:08St. Paul Street
14:09Area
14:09Last night
14:11It is allegedly
14:12Drive of the
14:13Nissan T
14:14That suddenly
14:14Put the vehicle
14:15In reverse
14:16And proceeded
14:17Along St. Paul Street
14:19Then onto Rodney Street
14:20Where one male
14:21Occupant
14:21Exited what appeared
14:23To be in his
14:24Possession
14:24A rifle
14:26The suspect
14:27As alleged
14:28Appointed the
14:28Rifle
14:29In the direction
14:30Of the officers
14:30In keeping
14:31With the
14:31T.T.P.S.
14:32Use of force
14:32Policy
14:33Fired several
14:34Shots in his
14:35Direction
14:35And he ran off
14:36However
14:37The T.T.O.
14:37Continued to proceed
14:38Along the
14:39Rodney Street
14:40Area
14:40Onto
14:41Besso Street
14:42Where it came
14:42To a stop
14:43In the vicinity
14:44Of the rear gate
14:44Of the St. Paul Street
14:45Multipurpose Complex
14:47The drivers
14:48Allegedly have
14:49Exited the vehicle
14:50And pointed
14:50An object
14:51Resembling that
14:52Of a firearm
14:52In the direction
14:53Of officers
14:53Before firing
14:54Several shots
14:55The officers
14:56Again in keeping
14:56With the use
14:57Of force
14:57Policy
14:57Retain fire
14:58He fled
14:59He reportedly
15:00Jumped over a gate
15:01At which point
15:02The firearm
15:02Fell to the ground
15:03He continued
15:05Running
15:05And allegedly
15:06Pointed another
15:07Firearm
15:07In his possession
15:08In the direction
15:09Of the officers
15:09Who then approached
15:10The gate
15:10Cautiously
15:11And in keeping
15:12With the use
15:12Of the force
15:13Policy
15:13Of course
15:14They fired
15:15Several shots
15:15The suspect
15:16Was hit
15:17And fell
15:17To the ground
15:18He was taken
15:18To the hospital
15:19And later died
15:20Yeah
15:20Well firstly
15:22Condolences
15:23To the family
15:24Of the deceased
15:25The firearms
15:27Are retrieved
15:27Yeah
15:28And fortunately
15:30None of our officers
15:31Were harmed
15:32In this incident
15:33It's indicative
15:35Of the society
15:37That we are living
15:38In
15:39And what police
15:40Officers
15:40Have to face
15:41There on a
15:42Day to day
15:42Basis
15:43We will continue
15:45To do
15:45The necessary
15:47Regarding incidents
15:48That are
15:49Violent nature
15:50And we are
15:51Urging members
15:51Of the public
15:52Please do not
15:54Do not engage us
15:56With any type
15:57Of force
15:57Period
15:58Our officers
15:59Are trained
15:59They are fully
16:00Equipped
16:01And they will
16:02Respond appropriately
16:03Yeah
16:04Right
16:04And also
16:05The southwestern
16:07Division
16:07They had
16:08An operation
16:08Called
16:09Steadfast
16:09Strikes
16:10Hard
16:11In the south
16:1243 persons
16:13Were arrested
16:13For drugs
16:14And weapons
16:14Seize
16:15The operational
16:16Highlights
16:16Rather
16:1711 housages
16:18Conducted
16:1816 drug
16:19Blocks
16:20Searched
16:206 road
16:21Blocks
16:21Conducted
16:22207
16:23Unsearched
16:24Exercises
16:25118
16:26Fixed penalty
16:26Notices
16:27Issued
16:2717 bars
16:29Searched
16:2939 warrants
16:30Executed
16:31You can see
16:32Some of the
16:32Things that
16:33They would
16:34Obviously
16:34Would have
16:34Recovered
16:3522.308
16:38Kilograms
16:39Of cannabis
16:39And one
16:40Bulletproof
16:40Vest
16:41Several persons
16:42Were arrested
16:43For outstanding
16:45Warrants
16:45For persons
16:47Were held
16:47For robbery
16:47Assault
16:48Possession of
16:49Cocaine
16:50And driving
16:50While disqualified
16:52And some
16:53Persons were held
16:54Because they
16:55Were persons
16:55Of interest
16:56To the
16:57Immigration
16:57And other
16:58Related matters
16:58Yeah
16:59So clearly
16:59A multi-prong
17:00Approach
17:00We are seeing
17:01Offenses
17:03Ranging from
17:03Traffic offenses
17:04To as serious
17:05As possession
17:06Of marijuana
17:07And other forms
17:08Of narcotics
17:09Hats off to
17:10The division
17:10Clearly a lot
17:11Of planning
17:12Went into
17:12This process
17:13And we
17:14Have seen
17:15Now the type
17:15Of result
17:16That came
17:16About
17:16Of such
17:18Activity
17:18You know
17:19We will
17:19Continue
17:19To urge
17:20Members of
17:20The public
17:20Please provide
17:21Us with
17:21The necessary
17:22Information
17:22So that
17:23We can
17:24Rid the streets
17:25Of these
17:26Illegal items
17:26Which have
17:27Been haunting
17:28Us for a
17:28Significant
17:29Period
17:29All right
17:30So it's
17:31Day 63
17:32Of the state
17:33Of emergency
17:33We just want
17:34To bring you
17:34Up to speed
17:35With the latest
17:36Figures
17:37Number of
17:38Operations
17:384,412
17:40Target priority
17:41Offenders
17:411,654
17:42Sages conducted
17:4328,618
17:45Traffic operations
17:462,883
17:47Total persons
17:48Arrested
17:492,030
17:50Traffic offenses
17:52Detected
17:5215,744
17:54Firearms
17:55Recovered
17:5559 pistols
17:5632 revolvers
17:5818 shotguns
17:5917 rifles
18:00And 3 air rifles
18:02Ammunition
18:03Recovered
18:04759 rungs
18:05Of 9mm
18:0693 rungs
18:07Of 12 gauge
18:0850 rungs
18:08Of 0.380
18:104 rungs
18:10Of 16 gauge
18:11374 rungs
18:13Of 5.56
18:14105 rungs
18:16Of 0.38
18:1754 rungs
18:18Of 0.40
18:1916 rungs
18:20Of 0.357
18:2147 rungs
18:22Of 0.45
18:2417 rungs
18:25Of 0.22
18:26And 50 rungs
18:27Of 7.62
18:29That's a total
18:30That's a total
18:30Of 1,569 rungs
18:33Dangerous drugs
18:35Seized
18:35230,924.12
18:39Grams
18:39Of marijuana
18:407,401.08
18:43Grams
18:43Of cocaine
18:441,032
18:45SAC pills
18:46And 15 grams
18:47Of molly
18:48Significant amount
18:51Of work
18:52Mark
18:52And I know
18:54We continue
18:55To speak
18:56About the
18:56Firearm recovery
18:57And the narcotics
18:58Recovery
18:58But you are
19:00Looking at
19:00Almost 16,000
19:02Traffic offenses
19:04Detected
19:04Under a
19:05Three month
19:06Period
19:06So that
19:07Tells us
19:08Something
19:08It tells us
19:09Something about
19:10Our motoring
19:11Public
19:12And persons
19:13Need to accept
19:13Responsibility
19:14We continue
19:15To speak
19:16About it
19:16Ad
19:16Nauseam
19:17We have
19:17Seen
19:18An increase
19:18In terms
19:19Of our
19:19Road
19:20Fatalities
19:20Within a
19:21Particular
19:21Period
19:21And we
19:22Are asking
19:23Persons
19:23Please observe
19:25The rules
19:25Of the
19:26Roadway
19:26We are
19:26Asking
19:27Persons
19:27Who are
19:27Not drivers
19:28Of vehicles
19:29But may
19:30See something
19:31Please say
19:32Something
19:33Because this
19:33Is of paramount
19:34Importance
19:35And the
19:35Offence
19:36That we believe
19:36The police
19:37Supposed to
19:37Overlook
19:38Today
19:38Could be
19:39The reason
19:39Why we are
19:40Getting involved
19:40In accidents
19:41Tomorrow
19:41So let us
19:42Take it
19:42And treat it
19:43With a level
19:43Of seriousness
19:44That it
19:45Deserves
19:45Alright
19:46Okay let's
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21:57Good day trader in Tobago.
22:23A safer nation begins with you
22:25standing up, speaking out
22:27and doing your part.
22:29As your commissioner of police,
22:31I am prepared to do my part.
22:34Are you prepared to do your part?
22:35Get on board. Are you on board?
22:38I am Bishop Ezekiel Clark,
22:40president of the Coover
22:41Police Station Community Council.
22:43And I am proud to say
22:45that I am on board with the
22:47Trinidad and Tobago Police Service
22:49in their fight against crime
22:51in Trinidad and Tobago.
22:53I am Panis Dean Galston.
22:54And I am Panis Johan Chukri.
22:56And crime prevention
22:57is everybody's business.
23:02Hi, I am Sajina Kudiru,
23:04attorney at law and team lead
23:05for the attorneys for the
23:06TTPS Community Justice Clinic.
23:09We support the Trinidad and Tobago
23:10Police Service in the fight against crime.
23:13Crime prevention is everybody's business.
23:15I am Shiraz Khan.
23:16I am a farmer.
23:18I support the TTPS
23:19in the fight against crime.
23:21My name is Maldek Maraj,
23:23president of Bishop Warner's
23:24Chamber of Industrial and Commerce.
23:26Crime fighting is everybody's business.
23:29We are all in one.
23:30Welcome back to Beyond the Tape.
23:47I'm your host, Mark Bussan,
23:48joined today by acting ESP,
23:49HMALPIT of the Northern Division.
23:52And, you know,
23:53every day we talk about road safety
23:55on this program.
23:56There's no set D.
23:57And I want you to explain
24:01to the viewers this video
24:03that we got on social media
24:06at the new Elmina Clark Highway.
24:09Look at this vehicle.
24:12He actually fits into the railing.
24:15Yes, people?
24:17Yeah.
24:17How?
24:19Literally goes through the,
24:21his vehicle goes through,
24:22and look, through and through
24:24to the back of the vehicle.
24:26So, very good question.
24:29I know the investigators
24:30on completion
24:31should be able to answer it.
24:34But, you know,
24:34it speaks to a broader issue.
24:36What caused this?
24:38What contributed to this?
24:40Yes.
24:41It tells a story.
24:43I don't want to
24:44prejudice the investigation
24:46because we know
24:48things can happen.
24:50But we are urging
24:51members of the public,
24:52please be careful
24:53on our nation's roadways.
24:55There are guidelines,
24:57there are road signs,
24:59there are limits,
25:00and there are rules
25:01that we ought not
25:02to take for granted.
25:04But again,
25:05this is without prejudice
25:07to this particular incident.
25:09Generally speaking,
25:10we need to take
25:10road safety seriously.
25:13And listen,
25:14listen,
25:14I'm sure,
25:15I don't know if you're familiar
25:16with the Final Destination movies.
25:19Yes, I am.
25:21This motorist
25:22perhaps was very lucky
25:24because he could have been
25:25impaled by those railings.
25:26Extremely.
25:27If that had shifted
25:28just a little bit more
25:29this way.
25:29Yeah.
25:30And those railings
25:31came through.
25:33Yeah.
25:33Even if it was able
25:35to make it
25:35just past the engine
25:36or just before the engine,
25:38just an inch or two.
25:39Yes.
25:39Because it was really close
25:40to the seating.
25:41Yes.
25:42Just by your legs.
25:43Yeah.
25:43Yeah.
25:44And, you know,
25:45look how long
25:47it traveled
25:47through that railing.
25:49If you look at the railing,
25:51when we pass the vehicle,
25:54it continues.
25:55Yeah.
25:55Look at that.
25:56Yes.
25:56So, look at the,
25:57look at the,
25:58at least I'd say
25:59maybe from just looking
26:00at the video,
26:01about 10 feet.
26:03Yeah.
26:04Roughly.
26:05Maybe, yes,
26:05I want to 8 feet.
26:06Look at that.
26:07Going all the way.
26:08It could be more.
26:09Yeah, more.
26:09It could be more actually
26:10because we're just making
26:11a rough estimate here.
26:13Be more than at 20,
26:1430 feet.
26:16But I agree with you.
26:18You know,
26:18that driver occupants
26:21very, very fortunate.
26:22Yeah.
26:23Well,
26:24extremely fortunate.
26:24You know,
26:26a full recovery.
26:28Yeah.
26:28So,
26:29this is a video
26:31that we want to show you.
26:33It contains a box
26:35discovered in the
26:36Santa Rosa Cemetery
26:37with human remains
26:39and money in it.
26:44So,
26:44that appears to be
26:45human remains.
26:46Yes.
26:47There,
26:48but it looks somewhat
26:49like a skull.
26:50Yes.
26:50Or something of the sort.
26:52And there is actually
26:53money
26:53in that box
26:56as well
26:56with those remains.
26:59And I know
26:59that it will be
27:00probably engaging
27:01the attention
27:02of your area,
27:03your division,
27:04maybe going through
27:06the missing persons
27:07files
27:09to see if it matches
27:10anybody that has been
27:12missing for quite a while.
27:14Or,
27:14you know,
27:15we don't know.
27:16Yes.
27:17And investigation
27:18is ongoing
27:19regarding this find.
27:20It is
27:21a horrific find.
27:24You know,
27:24as it stands out
27:26immediately
27:26as some sort
27:28of ritual
27:29that took place
27:30at that location.
27:32And,
27:32you know,
27:35when pictures
27:36were observed
27:36as well,
27:37pictures of persons,
27:39all that can point
27:40us in a particular
27:41direction.
27:41So we are asking
27:43anyone with
27:44information
27:45regarding
27:45that incident
27:47or that find
27:48that we were able
27:48to make yesterday,
27:49please come forward
27:50and provide us
27:51with the information.
27:53We know there's
27:54a neighboring community.
27:56Someone reached
27:57out to us
27:58and we are asking
27:59that if additional
28:00persons are in the know,
28:02please provide it.
28:04You know,
28:05it stands out
28:05and the term
28:06necromancy
28:07stands out
28:07immediately.
28:09Nonetheless,
28:10it involves
28:10from the surface
28:12human remains.
28:13Some testing
28:13must take place
28:14but on the surface
28:15it appears to be
28:16human remains
28:17and for that reason
28:18we must take
28:19this investigation
28:20to its full conclusion
28:23in order to determine
28:24exactly what
28:25it has happened there
28:26and if it's not
28:28something much
28:31more harrowing
28:31than meets the eye.
28:34Alright,
28:34I think we have
28:35our first caller
28:36on the line
28:37this afternoon.
28:38Or this evening rather.
28:40Caller, good evening
28:40and welcome
28:40to Beyond the Chip.
28:42Hi, good day.
28:43Good day, ma'am.
28:44Good day, ma'am.
28:46Hi, this is
28:47Paul coming
28:47from Tobago.
28:49Hello, Tobago.
28:50Yes.
28:51Good evening, Tobago.
28:52Hi, good evening.
28:54So,
28:55a few weeks ago
28:57my family
28:58and myself
28:59were at a playground
29:00in Adventure
29:02in Climax
29:04and a gentleman
29:07pulled up
29:08not too far
29:09from where we were
29:10because it's by
29:11located
29:12around
29:13HBC Development.
29:16So, there are
29:17lots of houses
29:17nearby.
29:18So, a car pulls up
29:19to one of the houses
29:20and he is
29:23blasting music
29:24that has profanity.
29:26like very loudly.
29:29Loud enough
29:29that you could
29:30clearly meet
29:31how you could
29:31understand
29:32everything that
29:33is being placed.
29:35So,
29:36I contacted
29:37the nearest
29:38police station
29:39with her
29:39and a female
29:42police officer
29:43answered
29:43and I told her
29:44that, you know,
29:45someone just
29:46pulled up
29:47and they're
29:47blasting music
29:48with curse words
29:49and there are
29:49children present.
29:51So, she asked me
29:52if I
29:54tried
29:55going up
29:56to the driver
29:57and asking him
29:58to turn the music
29:59down.
30:00So, it's at this
30:01point that I told her
30:03well, ma'am
30:03I am with my baby
30:05and my 8-year-old
30:07and I do not
30:08feel comfortable
30:08going up
30:09to the car.
30:11So, she asked
30:12if there were
30:12other adults present.
30:14I said, yes.
30:15She said,
30:17well, have any
30:18of them
30:18gone up to the vehicle?
30:20So, I passed
30:21the phone to my
30:22husband who was
30:23also there
30:24because I figured
30:26that maybe he
30:27could get through
30:27to her
30:28because I really
30:29didn't know
30:29what to say
30:30after that.
30:31So, he explained
30:32the situation
30:32to her again
30:33that there was
30:35a vehicle parked
30:36very close
30:36to the playground
30:37blasting music
30:38that contained
30:39profanity
30:40and it showed
30:41no signs of
30:42stopping.
30:43So, I overheard
30:44telling him
30:46that, well,
30:46that's why
30:46I told the lady
30:47why she didn't
30:50go up to the car.
30:51So, he said,
30:52well, ma'am,
30:52there are many
30:53adults here
30:53with their children
30:54and I don't think
30:55any of them
30:55would feel comfortable
30:56going up to a car
30:57that is heavily tinted.
30:59You can't,
31:00we don't even know
31:01who is in the vehicle
31:03that's really
31:03the tint was
31:04that dark
31:05and I don't think
31:06anybody would be
31:07willing to abandon
31:08their children
31:08or leave them
31:10unattended
31:10to go up
31:11to this mystery
31:12car to tell
31:12them to turn
31:13the music down.
31:14So, it was
31:15at this point
31:16that she said,
31:17okay, well,
31:17you know,
31:18after I was hearing
31:18clearly,
31:20what's the conversation
31:21they were having
31:21and she said
31:22that they would
31:22send our car.
31:24So, he ended
31:26the conversation
31:26and the gentleman
31:29continued to play
31:30his loud music
31:31with Coatswood
31:32and it was only
31:34until about
31:34an hour later
31:35did a car
31:36eventually show up
31:38but by then
31:38the gentleman
31:39eventually existed
31:40he can't be
31:41so it was like
31:42a young guy
31:43and then he got
31:44back in his car
31:45and he came to
31:46one of the people
31:47there but he just
31:47got back in the car
31:48and left.
31:50So, I'm wondering
31:51if this is normal
31:52like procedure
31:53like if I were
31:54to report a crime
31:55with these suggestions
31:56you like, you know,
31:57have you tried
31:58solving it yourself?
32:00Please advise.
32:02Yeah.
32:04Thank you for your
32:05information, ma'am.
32:07Firstly,
32:08let me tell you
32:09straight out
32:10you did the writing
32:10you observed something
32:12and you felt that
32:13it warranted
32:14a particular type
32:15of intervention
32:15and you reached out.
32:17I must apologize
32:18to you
32:19because
32:20it should have been
32:22that the response
32:23of the police
32:23should have been
32:24faster.
32:25One,
32:25and, you know,
32:26our customer
32:27relationship
32:28should have been
32:29showcased
32:30to the extent
32:30that this afternoon
32:32you should have
32:32been calling in
32:33to say how quickly
32:33the police were able
32:34to respond,
32:35one,
32:36and two,
32:36how receptive
32:37we were regarding
32:39the information
32:39that you were
32:40providing.
32:41On that note,
32:42it means to say
32:43now that we have
32:44some work to do
32:44so I will reach out
32:46to the senior officers
32:47at the Scarborough
32:48Police Station
32:49in order that,
32:50you know,
32:51we may not be able
32:52to identify the officers
32:53specifically,
32:53but generally
32:54we may have
32:55a team
32:56that may have
32:57worked on that day
32:58and for that reason
32:59it is important
33:02that we get
33:03the message
33:04to check along
33:04in terms of
33:05how we are able
33:06to manage
33:07our customer
33:08service relationship
33:10and our ability
33:11to respond
33:11to situations
33:12like this
33:12in a timely manner.
33:14We have seen,
33:15and this is why
33:15I'm saying
33:16I'm giving you credit,
33:17we have seen
33:17instances
33:18where persons
33:19intervened
33:20on their own accord
33:22and it went south
33:24because there are
33:25persons out there
33:26who are not
33:26civic-minded
33:27and, you know,
33:28unless they see
33:29persons in authority
33:30they are not willing
33:31to curb their behavior.
33:32So, straight out,
33:33you did the right thing
33:34and, you know,
33:36thank you very much
33:36for your feedback
33:37this afternoon.
33:38All right,
33:39on that note
33:39we're going to take
33:40a short break
33:40and when we get back
33:41we'll take more
33:41of your calls.
33:42There's a hole
33:55in the bucket
33:56Well, fix it
33:57dear Johnny
33:58Just fix it
34:00And while you're doing
34:01that, remember
34:01the roof is leaking
34:02The house need painting
34:04All those kitchen tiles
34:05need changing
34:06So tell me Johnny
34:07What about the plumbing?
34:08The driveway needs paving
34:09Plus, you promised
34:10to add a new room
34:11to the house
34:11I find it's about time
34:13Johnny
34:14Fix it
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34:41Good day Trinidad
34:43and Tobago
34:43A safer nation
34:44begins with you
34:45standing up
34:47speaking out
34:47and doing your part
34:49As your commissioner
34:50of police
34:51I am prepared
34:52to do my part
34:53Are you prepared
34:54to do your part?
34:55Get on board
34:56Are you on board?
34:58I am Bishop
34:59Ezekiel Clark
34:59President of the
35:01Coover Police Station
35:02Community Council
35:03and I am proud
35:04and I am proud
35:05to say that
35:06I am on board
35:06with the Trinidad
35:07and Tobago
35:08Police Service
35:09in their fight
35:10against crime
35:11in Trinidad and Tobago
35:12I am Panis Dean
35:14I am Panis Dean
35:14Galston
35:14and I am Panis
35:15Johan Chukri
35:16and crime prevention
35:17is everybody's business
35:19Hi, I am
35:23Sajina Kudir
35:24Attorney at Law
35:25and Team Lead
35:25for the Attorneys
35:26for the TTPS
35:27Community Justice Clinic
35:28We support
35:29the Trinidad and Tobago
35:30Police Service
35:31in the fight
35:32against crime
35:32Crime prevention
35:33is everybody's business
35:35I am Shiraz Khan
35:36I am a farmer
35:37I support the TTPS
35:39in the fight
35:40against crime
35:41My name is
35:42Maldok Maraj
35:42President of
35:43Bishop Warner
35:44Chamber of
35:44Industrial and Commerce
35:45Crime fighting
35:46is everybody's business
35:48We are all in board
35:58Welcome back to
36:08Beyond the Tape
36:09I am your host
36:09Mark Bussan
36:10joined today
36:10back to the SPH
36:11Muppet of the
36:12Northern Division
36:13and we want to
36:14thank you for
36:15responding to
36:16the last caller
36:17and of course
36:17we have another
36:18caller on the line
36:19caller good evening
36:20and welcome to
36:20Beyond the Tape
36:21your life
36:21Hi, good afternoon
36:23gentlemen
36:24Good afternoon
36:25Just a couple points
36:27when you're driving
36:30on the road
36:31and suddenly
36:33a vehicle
36:35with a blue
36:36flashing light
36:37appears behind you
36:38do you have to move
36:41because some of these
36:42blue flashing lights
36:43is one type of
36:44vehicles
36:44they are at force
36:46unless
36:46there could be
36:47a senior police officer
36:48who is
36:49driving on the road
36:52and he's on an
36:53emergency
36:53or something like
36:54but should I move
36:56if I'm not
36:57hearing
36:58a siren
36:59behind me
37:00number two
37:01how do you
37:04identify
37:05a police officer
37:06when he's
37:08not in uniform
37:09long time
37:11remember long time
37:12everybody had
37:13a regimental number
37:14so from the time
37:16you see a regimental
37:17number
37:17an officer
37:17you know
37:19you can take
37:20that number
37:20and identify
37:21your
37:22now
37:22now
37:24they have the badge
37:25and maybe the officer
37:26could give you a name
37:27and say
37:27I'm a Sarambla
37:28officer
37:29I don't know
37:31if you're an officer
37:31I have to go
37:32on your road
37:33so we
37:35need to just like that
37:37clarify
37:38and one more thing
37:39I think
37:40there's time
37:40the TTPS
37:41when they order
37:42new vehicles
37:43should put the crash
37:45a crash barrier
37:46in front
37:47of the SUVs
37:48because I've seen
37:50too many vehicles
37:51getting accidents
37:52and the damage
37:54to the vehicles
37:55would have been less
37:56if you had a crash
37:58barrier
37:58in front
37:59of the police vehicles
38:00right
38:02so if you could just
38:03answer these three
38:04questions
38:04for me
38:04it would be very
38:05sounds good
38:06yeah
38:06thank you sir
38:07right so
38:09this first question
38:10if you are
38:11observing a blue light
38:14behind you
38:15but the siren is not on
38:16siren is not on
38:17usually our officers
38:19will be on patrol
38:20at night
38:21with the blue lights on
38:22and it doesn't mean
38:23to say that you have
38:23to move away
38:24in order for the vehicle
38:25to pass
38:25some persons will do it
38:27some persons are not
38:27comfortable
38:28with the police officers
38:29behind them
38:29and the flashlights
38:30behind them
38:30so they may move
38:31for the vehicle to pass
38:32but it is not something
38:33that you are
38:34you know
38:34mandated to do
38:35however
38:36if it's an emergency
38:38situation
38:38which the blue lights
38:39will usually be
38:41accompanied by the siren
38:42then obviously
38:43as the law dictates
38:44we would ask
38:45that persons
38:46move to the side
38:47because definitely
38:47you are looking
38:48at an emergency
38:49situation
38:49how to identify
38:51police officers
38:52outside of persons
38:54wearing uniform
38:54as you quite rightfully
38:56stated caller
38:57police officers
38:58will identify themselves
38:59via their police
39:01service identification
39:02card
39:03or in addition
39:04to that
39:05your badge
39:07and you said
39:09you know
39:09that in itself
39:11could be questioned
39:12and so on
39:13and so forth
39:14and you are correct
39:15it could be questioned
39:15but that is the means
39:18by which police officers
39:19it's the accepted means
39:20by which police officers
39:21will identify themselves
39:22while it's out of uniform
39:24in terms of crash bars
39:27so you are speaking
39:28about police vehicles
39:29being fit for purpose
39:30and you know
39:31those are discussions
39:32that continue
39:34to take place
39:35within the organization
39:35regarding the type
39:38of demanding
39:39work that police vehicles
39:41have to undergo
39:43on a day-to-day basis
39:45and often times
39:46you hear members
39:46of the public
39:47say oh god
39:47the vehicles
39:48the thing
39:48but police vehicles
39:50they function
39:5124 hours a day
39:54as they go down
39:56they have to go up
39:57as they go down
39:58they have to go up
39:58that is the nature
39:59of work
40:00that those vehicles
40:01have to perform
40:02and yes
40:03there are times
40:03when they will be
40:04involved in accidents
40:05unfortunately
40:06and you are saying
40:07for that reason
40:08you know
40:08place a crash bar
40:09so it will enhance
40:11safety in one instance
40:12and also
40:13probably preserve
40:15the integrity
40:15of the vehicle
40:16in the other instance
40:16so it is something
40:18that we can take
40:20into consideration
40:20in terms of
40:22fitting our vehicle
40:22for purpose
40:23I know it will mean
40:24an additional cost
40:25and you know
40:26money
40:26is an issue by itself
40:29yeah
40:29yeah
40:30that's some good points
40:31that the caller
40:32would have brought
40:33to our attention
40:34certainly you know
40:36there's always
40:36those concerns
40:37about vehicles
40:38behind you
40:40with sirens
40:41not on
40:42but the lights
40:43flashing
40:43so yeah
40:45it was good
40:46that you
40:46clarify that
40:47for us
40:48so that at least
40:49the normal
40:50citizen can understand
40:51okay we have
40:53another call on the line
40:54caller good evening
40:55and welcome
40:55to be on the tape
40:56good evening
40:58good evening
40:59ma'am
41:00yes ma'am
41:03how are you
41:04I'm good
41:05more importantly
41:05how are you
41:06it's mr
41:09um
41:09how'd I call
41:11the other gentleman
41:12go ahead
41:15it's mark
41:16pleasure
41:16go ahead
41:17we're listening
41:18uh
41:20can you
41:20load your tv
41:21could you load your tv
41:22down caller
41:22before you continue
41:24please
41:24or take it off
41:25yes
41:28okay
41:29yesterday
41:30on yesterday's
41:31program
41:32yes
41:37on yesterday's
41:38program
41:38you're listening
41:39go ahead
41:39yeah
41:40yeah we just want
41:49we just want you
41:49to mute your
41:49television
41:50ma'am
41:50uh and then
41:52you can
41:52then you can
41:53uh you can
41:54continue speaking
41:54all right
41:56so let's try
41:57this again
41:57all right
41:58caller go ahead
41:59yeah thank you
42:00much better
42:01on yesterday's
42:03program
42:04there was a gentleman
42:06that was saying
42:07if police
42:08must escort
42:09the big truck
42:11or the big vehicles
42:13going down the road
42:14and I say yes
42:16because as a retired police
42:19I know that
42:20when you reach like
42:21I buy a traffic light
42:23and these big big vehicles
42:25the police would get there
42:28to direct the traffic light
42:30to cause the vehicle
42:32to go
42:32or else
42:33this big vehicle
42:33would be stuck
42:34in traffic too
42:35I find the civilians
42:37like to get into
42:38the police business
42:39to know everything
42:40everything
42:42and I say yeah
42:43and I find sometimes
42:45they want to know
42:45everything
42:46and
42:46some of you
42:48don't know
42:49to hold back
42:50the information
42:50but there are
42:51some things
42:52that is for the police
42:54right
42:56and I'm kindly asking
42:57that if they give
42:59both of you a seat
43:00it's not easy
43:01especially the police
43:02they'll be working
43:03the whole day
43:04and then
43:04to come and stand up
43:05there for a whole hour
43:07it's not right
43:08always be tired
43:10and I think
43:10if they give all
43:11their little seat
43:12like how
43:13the morning show
43:14does be
43:14that would be good
43:16I could see
43:16how the police
43:17is working all day
43:18and then they're tired
43:19in the evening
43:20so please
43:21have seats
43:22for both of you
43:23so that you'll be
43:24more comfortable
43:24the thing
43:25and all the police
43:27who have been there
43:28I'm thanking you
43:30for everything
43:31but please
43:32let the civilians
43:33tell there are
43:33certain things
43:35that they must know
43:36not everything
43:37they want to know
43:38everything
43:38where the police
43:39are by the ground
43:40where they're dead
43:40everything
43:41there are certain
43:43information
43:43that they must
43:44be privy to only
43:45thank you all
43:47it's Mr.
43:48the other gentleman
43:49there
43:50not Mr.
43:52Pitt
43:52the other gentleman
43:54are you married?
43:55if I'm married
43:59come back blushing
44:00I'm not married
44:04but I'm spoken for
44:05both of you
44:10so you will have a blessed
44:11blessed evening
44:12thank you ma'am
44:14thank you
44:15thank you
44:15and so much
44:16I'm blushing
44:17are you blushing sir
44:18you alright
44:19composing sir
44:20composing sir
44:20I am composed
44:22listen
44:23the officer
44:25the retired officer
44:27raised some
44:27questions about
44:29I know a caller
44:30had to call in
44:31and Sergeant Ali
44:32succinctly put it
44:33and you know
44:34he spoke about
44:34the fact that
44:35it's necessary
44:36because you know
44:37it's heavy cargo
44:37you have to be cautious
44:39on the nation's roadways
44:40going
44:40and you need that
44:42escort so that
44:42the police can clear
44:43the way
44:44let people know
44:45that there are heavy
44:45equipment coming
44:46down the roadways
44:47so that they can
44:48pull aside
44:48as the case may be
44:49or proceed with caution
44:51so I don't think
44:53that is something
44:53that I know
44:54we as motorists
44:56all observe
44:56and we just want
44:58to understand
44:59the protocols
45:00yeah
45:00so as the caller
45:03said
45:03it is extremely
45:04necessary
45:05there is a
45:06significant safety
45:07aspect attached
45:08to it
45:08additionally
45:09there is a level
45:10of convenience
45:11because you may
45:12have some
45:12unwanted traffic
45:14that can be
45:16caused
45:16if those vehicles
45:18are not escorted
45:18so it is extremely
45:20important
45:20that that type
45:22of accompaniment
45:24takes place
45:25in order that
45:26you have a smooth
45:27flow of traffic
45:27one
45:28and secondly
45:29safety is preserved
45:31yes
45:31and she also
45:33furthered that
45:35you know
45:35persons want to get
45:36very much
45:37into police business
45:38ma'am
45:40we accept
45:41that that is the norm
45:42when
45:44anything happens
45:46regarding police
45:47officers
45:48it's
45:48reality show
45:50in effect
45:50every time
45:52police officers
45:53engage persons
45:54you would observe
45:55that
45:55in the surrounding
45:57areas
45:58people stop
45:58and they look on
45:59to see what is
46:00happening next
46:01and some persons
46:02may take over
46:02their phones
46:03but I agree with
46:04you totally
46:05that there are
46:06things that
46:06need to know
46:08and there are
46:09things that
46:09obviously
46:10given its
46:11sensitive nature
46:12we must be able
46:13to preserve
46:14as an organization
46:15because in some
46:16instances
46:16persons are saying
46:17we need to share
46:18everything
46:18and in other
46:19instances
46:20persons are saying
46:21that the organization
46:22may at times
46:22lack confidentiality
46:24so we know
46:25what we
46:26ought to share
46:27and we know
46:28what we ought to
46:29preserve
46:29or we ought to
46:30keep confidential
46:31and it's a matter
46:32and it's a matter
46:32of now
46:33treating with those
46:34things and managing
46:35it in a way
46:36that persons
46:37understand the
46:38levels of transparency
46:39attached to the
46:40organization
46:41and the fact that
46:42there are things
46:42that definitely
46:43we cannot
46:44disclose
46:44all right
46:46and on that
46:46note
46:46I just want
46:47to let you
46:47know
46:47that there
46:48will be
46:48no sitting
46:48okay
46:49no sitting
46:50you'll be
46:50standing
46:51all right
46:52we're going to
46:52take a short
46:53break
46:53and we'll get
46:54back
46:54to you
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47:38okay
47:41I see you
47:43okay
47:43let me see you
47:44cherry hill
47:45yeah
47:45now take it back
47:46let me see you
47:48rock off
47:48rock off
47:49shake off
47:50shake off
47:50let me see you
47:51rock off
47:52rock off
47:52let me see you
47:53kick right
47:53now kick left
47:54now step forward
47:55now get back
47:56Luke is age
47:57bring the energy
47:58thank you members of the media
48:00this concludes our weekly press briefing
48:03as the Trinidad and Tobago police service continues to protect
48:09and serve with pride
48:11we are calling on all citizens of Trinidad and Tobago
48:14to get on board with us
48:16to ensure that everyone is able to live in a crime free society
48:22are you on board
48:25this is my country and I am on board
48:29I am on board with the Trinidad and Tobago police service let us save the youth of the nation
48:36get on board
48:37crime affects all of us
48:39children
48:40communities
48:41and the country as a whole
48:42supporting crime victims and working with the police service
48:46I am on board
48:48this is my country
48:50and I am on board
48:51my name is Nikolai Blackmon and I am on board with the TTPS
48:56vision on mission is proud to partner with the TTPS
49:01because crime prevention is everybody's business
49:04we are the national congress of incorporated spiritual baptist organizations of Trinidad and Tobago
49:10and we are on board with the TTPS in its fight against crime
49:13I am a farmer
49:15this is my country
49:17and I am on board
49:18I am Charles Jason Gordon
49:20the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Port of Spain
49:23I am on board in the TTPS fight against crime
49:27we are all on board
49:28welcome back to be on the tape
49:46I am your host Mark Besson
49:47joined today by ASP Schmalpett
49:49who is standing
49:49as a matter of fact
49:51speaking
49:51as we take our next call
49:53call a good evening
49:54and welcome to be on the tape
49:55good afternoon
49:58good afternoon
49:58good afternoon Mr. Mark Besson
50:00and ASP Mr. Smith
50:02good afternoon sir
50:04sorry
50:04yes sir
50:05I thought I heard Smith
50:06good afternoon sir
50:07good afternoon sir
50:08right
50:09ASP
50:10the last time I spoke to you
50:12was about three weeks ago
50:14and I can ask you
50:16a possibility
50:18a metric
50:19to tell us
50:20how much money
50:23we as a country
50:26is spending
50:27on suspended
50:29officers
50:30I know it's
50:32it's a lot of work to do
50:34so I don't expect you to answer that
50:36but I've expected that
50:37the next time you come on
50:38you will have an answer first
50:40because finances in the country
50:41is pretty poor
50:43so
50:44I don't forget questions
50:46that I've posted in the TTPS
50:48the other issue
50:49hot off the press
50:52the Brent Thomas issue
50:54two jurisdictions
50:56have said
50:57it is fraud
50:58and I had to take out
51:00money over my pocket
51:01so
51:02stay for that
51:03so
51:04how
51:05is the TTPS
51:07handling
51:08that situation
51:09because
51:10two senior
51:10persons
51:11were in
51:12other that
51:13a DCP
51:14and a ASP
51:15and one of the things
51:17I'm reading
51:17I'm no lawyer
51:18I'm not into law
51:19they say the world
51:21was fraud
51:22so that tells me
51:23those actions
51:25by those two police officers
51:27might have been fraud
51:28it's the TTPS
51:30to do a thorough investigation
51:32and find out
51:34if further action
51:36disciplinary action
51:37or retraining
51:38has to be done
51:40but retraining
51:41might be outside the window
51:42because they are
51:43fairly fairly
51:44elders in the TTPS
51:46of a particular rank
51:48so I listen
51:49up here
51:49how
51:50you're going to
51:51explain
51:51that for me
51:52as a senior
51:53of a senior
51:54of a senior
51:54of a senior
51:54of a senior
51:54of a senior
51:55of a senior
51:56of a senior
51:57of a senior
51:58and I'm looking
51:58for a response
51:59good afternoon
52:00and enjoy your evening
52:02thank you sir
52:03I like the reverse
52:04spin
52:05he had a long run up
52:08he ended up
52:09bowling special
52:10he ended up
52:10yeah
52:10he run up
52:11and he stuff
52:11googly
52:13or whatever
52:13let's call it
52:14so he spoke
52:16about officers
52:16suspended
52:17and I recall
52:19that on the last
52:20occasion
52:20he made a request
52:22of me
52:22and caller
52:23I stated
52:24I cannot commit
52:25to that
52:26so I will start
52:29by saying that
52:29I cannot commit
52:30to that
52:31I know
52:31you have been
52:33inquiring
52:34as to why
52:35police officers
52:36who are on
52:37suspension
52:37still benefit
52:38from a salary
52:39and I told you
52:40that is the law
52:40I will expand
52:42it by saying this
52:43public servants
52:45generally speaking
52:46benefit from salaries
52:47when they are suspended
52:48so it's not limited
52:49to the Trinidad
52:49and Tobago
52:50police service
52:50additionally
52:52you mentioned
52:53the matter
52:53at hand
52:54and yes
52:55it's no secret
52:56that the appeal
52:57concerning the
52:58Brent Thomas matter
52:59has been discontinued
53:00and you are now
53:02you are now
53:02questioning
53:03the activities
53:05or the actions
53:07of the police
53:07during this
53:08particular investigation
53:09I'm certain
53:11that my
53:12senior officers
53:12are also aware
53:14as to the
53:14present circumstance
53:16and they will
53:17take the appropriate
53:18action
53:18if such is necessary
53:20I must say though
53:22that as police officers
53:24as agents
53:24of the state
53:25often times
53:26Mark
53:26we will encounter
53:28situations
53:28and we have to
53:29treat with situations
53:30it doesn't mean
53:31to say that
53:31as police officers
53:32we would have done
53:33something contrary
53:34to law
53:35it just means
53:36that at times
53:37there are things
53:38that based on
53:39its nature
53:40it may mean
53:42that the state
53:43may have to
53:43come in
53:44and treat it
53:45in a particular way
53:46I hold no
53:47brief for no one
53:48but I'm just
53:49speaking general
53:50so not because
53:52and let me
53:54give an example
53:55so you are
53:57going to search
53:58a house
53:58you are in
53:59possession of a
53:59warrant
53:59and you have
54:02to breach
54:02you have to
54:03break down the
54:03door
54:04it's probably
54:05no fault
54:06of the persons
54:06on the inside
54:07that you have
54:07to do that
54:08you may have
54:09to dig up
54:10the floor
54:11you may have
54:11to dig up
54:12the tile
54:12based on the
54:14information
54:14that you have
54:15on completion
54:16of that
54:17that individual
54:18may say
54:19well here what
54:20who is compensating
54:21me for this
54:22so the officers
54:23did not act
54:24wrong
54:24because they are
54:25entitled to do that
54:26based on the
54:26powers granted
54:27to them
54:28by the warrant
54:29and nonetheless
54:30that person
54:30might be entitled
54:31to some
54:32compensation
54:33based on the
54:33fact that
54:34you know
54:34certain actions
54:35were taken
54:36and on completion
54:37you know
54:37what we
54:38sought
54:38we did
54:38not
54:39retrieve
54:39so
54:40that's just
54:41to give
54:41an example
54:42as to
54:42how things
54:43should be
54:44looked at
54:44if we want
54:45to be
54:45balanced
54:46there are also
54:48other technicalities
54:49which we
54:49obviously
54:50sorry we would
54:51not go into
54:51this juncture
54:52yes
54:52all right we have
54:53another call
54:54on the line
54:54quickly
54:54caller good
54:55evening and
54:55welcome to
54:55be on the
54:56tape
54:56good afternoon
54:57mr basant
54:58good afternoon
54:59officer pitt
55:00good afternoon
55:01ma'am
55:01i am concerned
55:03about this
55:04young man
55:05in the school
55:06that locked
55:07a police
55:09officer
55:09who is
55:10there to
55:11protect
55:11and serve
55:12locked him
55:14in a room
55:15and was
55:16just simply
55:17suspended
55:18is that
55:19the consequence
55:20of locking
55:22an officer
55:23that is
55:25there to
55:25protect
55:26these children
55:27in a school
55:28that is all
55:30that is going
55:30to happen
55:31to that
55:31young man
55:32that is a
55:33young man
55:34that needs
55:34serious
55:35serious
55:36counseling
55:36because he
55:38needs to
55:38respect the
55:39law and
55:40this is our
55:40problem today
55:41these young
55:43men and
55:44women
55:44even though
55:46they are in
55:46school they
55:47have no
55:47respect for
55:49our senior
55:50officers
55:51because they
55:52are there to
55:53protect them
55:54there should
55:55be something
55:56a little more
55:57harsh
55:57for that
55:58young man
55:59along with
56:00some counseling
56:01as well
56:02he should
56:02be having
56:04to pay
56:04some penalty
56:06and not just
56:07suspended
56:07from school
56:08because others
56:09are going to
56:09do it too
56:10trust me on
56:11that
56:11have a
56:12wonderful
56:12good evening
56:13both of you
56:14gentlemen
56:15thank you
56:16and I share
56:19her concern
56:19in that
56:21when something
56:22like this
56:23I know
56:23generally
56:24persons
56:24made light
56:25of it
56:25you know
56:26the officer
56:27was
56:28even
56:29looked at
56:30in a
56:30particular
56:30way
56:31and called
56:31out in a
56:32particular
56:32way
56:32but there's
56:34a very
56:34serious side
56:35to it
56:35and we
56:36continue to
56:37say
56:37Mark
56:37that you
56:38know
56:38the generation
56:39that we are
56:40treating with
56:40now
56:40they are
56:41crossing
56:42certain
56:43thresholds
56:43that we
56:44never
56:44anticipated
56:45would have
56:45been
56:45crossed
56:46who would
56:47have even
56:48thought of
56:49locking a police
56:50officer in a
56:51classroom
56:52yeah
56:52so
56:53we
56:53agree
56:54to
56:54mom
56:54that
56:54it
56:55warrants
56:55a level
56:57of
56:57intervention
56:57but we
56:58trust the
56:59process
56:59and we
57:00trust that
57:00those persons
57:01who are
57:01responsible
57:02for ensuring
57:03the discipline
57:04of the
57:05persons
57:06involved
57:06will do
57:07all that
57:08is necessary
57:09in order
57:09to get
57:10the right
57:10result
57:11yeah
57:11certainly
57:12you know
57:12and I
57:13imagine
57:13that the
57:14school
57:14would have
57:14something
57:15in place
57:15for that
57:16student
57:17of course
57:17they wouldn't
57:18just
57:18suspend him
57:19and said
57:19you know
57:19and of course
57:20consultation
57:21with his
57:22parents
57:22as to
57:23some kind
57:23of you know
57:24you know
57:24counseling
57:25of some
57:25sort
57:26for him
57:27so that
57:27there is
57:27no you
57:29know
57:29negative
57:30effects
57:30of the
57:31suspension
57:32and we
57:33know that
57:33some boys
57:34will be
57:34boys
57:34people
57:35play pranks
57:35but this
57:36certainly
57:37god forbid
57:38if something
57:38had happened
57:38in the school
57:39and the
57:39officer could
57:40not get
57:40out of that
57:41room
57:41just
57:42scenarios
57:43you have
57:43to think
57:44about
57:44you know
57:45as a
57:45young person
57:46impressionable
57:48minds
57:48please
57:49think
57:49these
57:50officers
57:50are there
57:51to help
57:51protect you
57:53keep you
57:53safe
57:54and once
57:55you do
57:55what you
57:56need to
57:56do
57:56you
57:57you will
57:57not have
57:57to have
57:58any run-ins
57:58with these
57:59officers
58:00exactly
58:00and really
58:01and truly
58:01some persons
58:03are making
58:03light of this
58:04issue
58:04this issue
58:05could be
58:05looked at
58:06from a
58:06criminal
58:06lens
58:07as well
58:07you know
58:09because
58:09at the end
58:10of the day
58:11this officer
58:11was denied
58:12his freedom
58:13and
58:14you know
58:15it's something
58:16that
58:17we
58:17as
58:18the caller
58:19said
58:19we need
58:19to look
58:20at
58:20seriously
58:21yeah
58:22certainly
58:22seriously
58:23it is
58:23all right
58:24remember
58:24we run
58:25tonight
58:25at
58:261130
58:27I repeat
58:28tomorrow
58:29at
58:2911 o'clock
58:30the TV6
58:32news is up
58:32next
58:33and we'll be
58:33back here
58:34tomorrow
58:34at 6pm
58:35and there
58:36will be
58:36standing
58:37officers
58:37have a good
58:39one
58:39and we'll be
58:41going to
58:41go
58:41to
58:42the
58:43next
58:43time
58:44to
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58:45to
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