00:00It was six days to go to the NFL draft.
00:02It had been set in motion about a week ago, the Jordan Tyson, Arizona State wide receiver,
00:07that he was going to do a personal private workout for NFL teams.
00:12And this was put into play because there had been this huge talk about a Jordan Tyson draft stock plummet
00:19because of the injury concerns, and he has missed time every single year.
00:22He's been in college with injuries, some more serious than others.
00:28Who knows whether this is draft smoke or draft fire.
00:32Apparently teams came away very impressed.
00:35That was from Matt Miller, and Matt Miller said that the conversation starts at pick number five for Jordan Tyson
00:42and predicts he'll be off the board no later than number 16.
00:46That could be agent service, just to throw that out there,
00:49but I never really bought into Jordan Tyson shouldn't be a top 15 pick because injuries,
00:55because he is, if you took the injuries away, I think he's actually a blue chip prospect.
00:59He's one of the rare guys in this draft that I think are franchise cornerstone type players.
01:03The injuries are the only thing that makes me nervous about him as a player.
01:11And we know how that tends to go here in Cleveland.
01:16But if the medicals check out and the Browns are comfortable with him, then pull the trigger on it.
01:27Fine.
01:28I would have no issue with it.
01:30Like I said, the only thing that makes me nervous about him is injury history.
01:34Yeah, but I just think it's weird to me how we process player limitations or player concerns going into the
01:42draft
01:42because injury is the one that just fans are just all the way out of.
01:47Nope.
01:47The best availability is our best ability is availability, right?
01:52Whereas like if we're talking about why a player didn't work out,
01:56I don't consider you a bust if you had injury problems.
01:59If you can't stay healthy, there's nothing you could do about it.
02:02And the team, even if they saw this coming a mile away, they made a calculated gamble.
02:07Like that to me, if you have no work ethic, you're a bust.
02:12Because that's something you can suss out.
02:14Yes, that is on you.
02:16You can control your attitude, your effort, your preparation, all of that.
02:22Legal issues.
02:22You can usually see those things coming from a mile away.
02:26Fit is a huge thing you can see coming from a mile away.
02:30The one thing that, hey, we'll see how it goes.
02:33Again, JSN fell to the 20th pick, what, four years ago, five years ago, for two reasons.
02:40One, he had the hamstring issues, and that's been cleared up in the NFL.
02:44And two, he was supposed to be a slot-only player.
02:47He played outside as, I think, an X receiver more last year by far than he did in the slot.
02:53How about them fixing his injury issues, the Seahawks?
02:59He was wearing the wrong shoe size?
03:00Yeah.
03:01The Seahawks, they, and listen, the Seahawks aren't the only team that does this.
03:05A lot of teams are doing it now, and I think all the teams should do it.
03:08They do the body scans to properly outfit the guys, and it turns out he was wearing the wrong size
03:15shoes.
03:16And that was contributing to the hamstring issues.
03:19They get them in the right size shoes, and lo and behold, the hamstring issues now disappear.
03:25And it makes me think, going just back, thinking about the Browns, Nick, all the years, all the players that
03:31would come here,
03:32and they'd have these soft tissue injuries.
03:34Most of them were hamstring injuries, and the first thought that popped in my head,
03:38please don't tell me that the equipment guys were putting these guys in the wrong size.
03:45That's the one place they must have chintzed.
03:47They'd spend top dollar everywhere.
03:49The shoe guy was on the vet men, and that's what screwed the Browns over.
03:53I just think, like, listen, I...
03:55But isn't that incredible?
03:57Well, but again, like, hey, JSN's not able to stay healthy.
04:02That's why he went 20th, and it's turned out.
04:05And listen, I know for every JSN, a guy who wasn't healthy and found health, there's three guys who were
04:13not healthy in college and continue to not be healthy.
04:16To me, I'm willing to risk it because the reward is that substantial.
04:22I'm not willing to risk, well, he's not going to be as good of a player because, whether it's a
04:27fit or he's just not that talented,
04:29because in the end, you still didn't get the pick right.
04:32And it's, like, the narrative that has bugged me from start with Jordan Tyson,
04:38and again, I think if Jordan Tyson had played at Ohio State, I don't know that he's...
04:44We're talking about the draft slide.
04:46I think playing at Arizona State, it's the same thing with Ihinachor, like, Ihinachor, and nailed it finally.
04:53That's a guy that, when we talk about his lack of experience, probably doesn't hurt him the same way at
04:58Georgia as it does at Arizona State.
05:00But what kills me about this is, well, you can't take him at six, but you can take him at
05:0512.
05:05Oh.
05:06Six picks?
05:08So, like, the injury risk is less at 12 than it is at six?
05:13Or even this weird idea that he should fall to the pick 24?
05:17Listen, if it happened, I would fall to my knees and thank God.
05:21If he falls to 24 because of injuries, the league's stupid.
05:24Well, the broken collarbone's a non-issue for me.
05:29Even the hamstring injuries, those can be corrected, fixed, go away, whatever.
05:35It's the knee injury.
05:37Like, that's the big one, okay?
05:39When you're talking about having multiple ligaments, you know, that type of a reconstruction with your knee.
05:46How many wide receivers end up getting through football without at least one torn knee?
05:50I understand it happened earlier than you would like, but, like, Chris Bell, without the knee injury, he's probably a
05:57top 32 pick.
05:59And, you know, he's falling because he might not be there week one and because he tore up his knee.
06:04It's like, okay, we just can't – don't draft receivers if you don't want guys to tear up their knees.
06:10But what I was going to add to that, Nick, was that was a couple years ago, okay?
06:15That was, what, I think 2022 or something like that when he had that injury.
06:20I think 2023, but yeah.
06:20Yeah, so he's had some time to recover.
06:25So even that is, like, I don't think is as big of a red flag.
06:31Now, if it was just, like, last year or he was coming off of that or something, that's a different
06:35conversation.
06:35But that was a couple years ago that that happened.
06:37So, like, even with the medical history, even though I'm nervous when a guy has, you know, injuries,
06:44like, I can talk myself through each one of those and be like, you know what?
06:49We're good.
06:50If you say Carnell Tate's the pick at six, I'll go, cool.
06:54I got a good player for the next five to eight years.
06:58And I'll be very content with Carnell Tate.
07:01If you say Jordan Tyson is the pick at six,
07:05I'm going to think you might have drafted the best wide receiver in this draft.
07:09And, like, I think he is going, while I think a lot of fans, and rightfully so,
07:13we're in Ohio State country, are going to look at this and go,
07:15Carnell Tate, I feel safe with this pick.
07:18Let's go, right?
07:19We're giving the quarterback a chance.
07:21And I think you'd be right to some degree.
07:23The guy that I'm going to start really having higher hopes for the offense,
07:27if you draft, is Jordan Tyson, be that at six, be that at 12, be that at 24.
07:32And injuries happen, we'll see.
07:34Hadn't been healthy.
07:35All these things are fair.
07:37I'm sorry.
07:38In a draft that is short on blue chip prospects,
07:41if the only thing holding you back from being a blue chipper is injuries,
07:47I think he could be, you know,
07:49people say there's not a difference-making wide receiver in this draft.
07:51You are dead-ass wrong.
07:53His name is Jordan Tyson.
07:54And the only downside here is it sounds like he did good enough
07:58in his private workouts today that anybody fetishizing or fantasizing
08:02about him falling to you at 24-39.
08:05It's not going to happen.
08:06It's very, very unlikely.
08:08And you know me.
08:10I defended you when J.P.'s talked about,
08:12oh, no one's trading at 20-27 first or second rounders.
08:15Like, we don't know that.
08:16Like, that's the buzz going into the draft.
08:19No one was supposed to trade up for a wide receiver cornerback a year ago,
08:22and they did.
08:23So, like, there's a lot of narratives that I don't buy into
08:27that I think we cling on to going into the draft.
08:30The one that I think is absolute rubbish, specific to this, is Jordan Tyson.
08:35If he's the pick at six, that could have a home run impact on this offense long term.
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