00:00it's been interesting to watch and again like being out on vacation for a full week I didn't
00:07take in everything the way I normally did but it was wild how we just had a stretch of run
00:12there
00:12I know we had our dalliance with Jeremiah Love which is something I'm sure we can get to I know
00:17that there are still people on the best uh you know the best available player kind of thing
00:21I thought it was interesting that once I saw Zach Jackson say yeah I think it's going to be
00:26Carnell Tate unless it's a trade seems like everybody just kind of went with that I was
00:32surprised at how everybody's kind of went like oh yeah I guess that's going to be the one
00:36and now nobody's really kind of pushed back on it in any way we don't really know why
00:40it's just kind of become the prevailing thought and it's not as if there's any sort of I don't
00:44think the Browns are talking to anybody and by the way if the Browns were talking to someone it
00:48might throw me off the scent even more like if we had someone come out and be like Carnell Tate
00:52is
00:52the guy I'm hearing with the Browns they love Carnell Tate it might make me be more incentivized
00:58to take Carnell Tate off of my board for the Browns to be like and not just because they they
01:01don't know what they're doing in evaluating wide receivers but more the idea that they just they
01:05like to they like to throw everyone for completely off the scent yeah I it's interesting I would be
01:11very surprised right now if the Browns legitimately knew all right hey today's the draft here's how the
01:20first five go this is who we're going to take I think we're still in the let's have those
01:24conversations let's wrap up kind of the order of operations part of this and I think this year
01:30makes sense to be kind of a late in the game let's be really flexible I would I just there's
01:35a part of
01:35me that would just be shocked if the Browns even now but even the week of are thinking it's Carnell
01:41Tate no matter what yeah I just don't buy it uh and I don't know maybe I'm just living with
01:46too
01:46much of what they did last year in my head and maybe that's bad and poor form of myself but
01:51last year Travis Hunter they equated him to Shohei Ohtani like they they went they went as far as you
01:56can Andrew Barry legitimately comped him to Shohei Ohtani in in the through the media like they they
02:01went as hard as you can about him to then go ahead and trade out of that so I I
02:05just I'm just not
02:07really going to buy anything that anyone's putting out there at the moment yeah I also think
02:10if you're this like you can do the Travis Hunter thing if you're the number two pick
02:14it gets a lot harder to to try and manipulate people or to you know like you just have to
02:21cast
02:21such more of a wider net I I would just be shocked again I'm not saying that they told Zach
02:27this is
02:28the thing I'm sure Zach is getting this from multiple people but like I just don't think it's
02:33Carnal Carnal Tate or bust right now I I really do think that you're in a position with this draft
02:39draft and being the sixth pick you've got to see how the first five picks go and you've got to
02:44see
02:44if somebody gets desperate about the sixth pick if somebody knows that you're certainly serious about
02:51moving down and even then like I think this should be one of those years where if you decide to
02:57stand
02:57pat at six I think it should be a conversation in that room on that day because I just don't
03:03know
03:04there's there isn't that aha obvious move to make I like listen I wouldn't draft Jeremiah Love at six
03:10but I think you have to have that conversation in that moment of hey are we cool passing up on
03:16a
03:16blue chipper in the name of a guy who's going to be a good football player but maybe not a
03:20blue chip
03:21prospect well and it's funny because I mean Jeremiah Love now is the number one rated according to
03:26McShay's board now he's the number one rated prospect in this entire thing he still is a running back but
03:31like we talk about uh the amount of talent and people he's been comped to but it really it comes
03:35down to there's too many moving parts on the board they don't know what's going to take place and they
03:39don't know how desperate these other teams are there's too much that's out of their control yeah
03:43like you legitimately could have done and mapped out everything you needed to with Travis Hunter last
03:49year and you just can't do that this year 216-474-0092 are you convinced it's Carnell Tate at six
03:56for the
03:56Cleveland Browns it's a little early for for where we're at and I just think like I well how do
04:03you
04:03become the best wide receiver by a mile now all of a sudden that's the part that I'm confused by
04:06I like Tyson for a while there I mean you talked about Tyson and I still like Tyson better than
04:11anyone that conversation almost seems laughable to people at the moment and I don't know how that
04:16happened I think because there's a lack of buzz in this draft as there is a lack of buzz in
04:21this
04:21offseason it's been one of the slower NFL offseasons and the NFL draft is actually dragging
04:27it to an even slower pace I just don't think teams are talking very much meaning like I don't think
04:32I think there's a lot the kind of things that generate so much smoke and excitement it starts
04:37with quarterback but big name wide like we're talking like Jamar Chase type wide receivers or
04:43even like Miles Garrett type edge rushers there aren't those players in that draft the kind of things
04:49that drive interest in the draft aren't there and even with like I mean I this guy I don't I
04:55really
04:55don't want this to come out as a criticism but it might come out this way it is an observation
04:59I don't think anybody in the Browns beat knows what the hell's going on and that's not how could
05:04they well it's not just the Browns aren't telling them like no one's really talking like all the little
05:10things that we normally have that let out and telegraph some ideas we don't have any of those
05:16because it's that it's just not that kind of draft yeah it's an odd draft it's you know funny when
05:21we
05:21had Daniel Oifusi on at three o'clock he mentioned something about like basically he just he wants
05:26the draft talk to be done and he's over it and he's like they they should maybe even move up
05:29the
05:29draft and for the first time in my life I was like yeah wouldn't it be sweet if it was
05:33like this
05:33Thursday you know wouldn't it be awesome if we just had this thing Thursday Friday or maybe even next
05:37Thursday Friday and you just get it done before the NBA postseason gets underway that's a thought we never
05:42have with these drafts yeah and I think so I think it's almost like uh I think we've gotten to
05:49a
05:49point where I think it makes a lot of sense most years like the week of everyone's kind of made
05:54their
05:54cases it's not necessarily that we all get to consensus but everybody like I'm going to stand
05:59on this turf you're going to stand on that turf we typically don't limp to the finish line here we're
06:03two and a half weeks out and we're we're like barely getting there listen I think I'm where you are
06:09and where I think a lot of Clevelanders are and even if we don't have the exact same people in
06:13that the bucket I can tell you who I wouldn't draft all right or I can tell you guys who
06:18I who I maybe
06:18have bigger reservations on but like I there's not one guy that I'm like yeah take that guy and
06:27all of our troubles are done yeah it would just be so much easier to just like pound the table
06:31and
06:31be like this is the guy I want this is the guy they should take end of conversation it just
06:35doesn't
06:35exist this this at least this draft well and into what you're saying I think that's why the sixth
06:41pick the consensus has become trade down well it's either trade down or I guess maybe that also speaks
06:48as to why it's become Carnell Tate because even no one thinks Carnell Tate is a quote-unquote home run
06:52no one thinks he's this I know Daryl said he's uh unequivocally a number one wide receiver okay fine
06:58uh but like did he say something later that was opposite to that no that was Jeremiah Love discussion okay
07:03that was like you can't make up his mind on Jeremiah Love it's incredible uh but no with Tate it's
07:07like
07:07I think people are just looking for what would in normal years be a very critiqued very like wait
07:13six overall you're taking a wide receiver and you can't even promise me that he's the number one on
07:17your team that usually would come with some conflict and it just isn't this year so while we're on the
07:21topic of this and again 216-474-0092 are you convinced it's Carnell Tate at six Daniel Jeremiah was on
07:29the Mina Keim show and talked about his latest mock and where he had the Browns going at six and
07:3424
07:34they're taking a Monroe Freeling if he's there mark it down I think they could take him to potentially
07:39take him with their first one no that coffee's too rich for me but they are hunting a left tackle
07:44and
07:45if they're pointing towards 27 you live with the bumps along the way this is about where I have him
07:50but I I think it's possible we're surprised he goes higher as a Browns fan are you thrilled if you
07:56walk out of this with Carnell Tate and Monroe Freeling I think so yeah I think Carnell Tate's for right
08:00now Freeling you live with some of the bumps and bruises but you're gonna you're gonna have the table
08:05set for your quarterback that's coming in 27 also just quick aside the coffee's too rich for me yeah
08:12I just don't know yeah I kind of like that one I like coffee I've never I've never heard coffee's
08:17too rich
08:18I'm not a coffee drinker but I feel like that's a thing that happens with coffee is it not
08:22I've definitely had I've had cream I've had cheesecake that's too rich yeah isn't too rich
08:27just too sweet is that what it is yeah but isn't that kind of what he's saying like like maybe
08:31it's
08:31one of those Starbucks foo-foo drinks maybe it's got a little bit too much too sweet a little too
08:36much
08:36caramel in that caramel macchiato as a grown-ass man six foot four built like a brick you know what
08:42words now that does that drinks a little caramel macchiato I know you drink the foo-foo
08:47I'll tell you not too rich that's some that just aren't good but they're never too rich you get
08:52too much caramel in your caramel macchiato what do you what's your description of it you can't have
08:56too much of something if it's in the name of it you definitely can there's too much caramel in my
09:01caramel macchiato yeah all right the the coffee snobs here would kindly ask you to get your ass out
09:06of here I promise you you can find too much of something if it's got the name in it I
09:10if you think
09:13the Browns are intent on competing for a playoff spot or a 500 record this year it makes sense that
09:20they have to draft a wide receiver early and they have to draft a left tackle if you think the
09:25Browns
09:25are playing for 2027 and that the Cleveland Browns want to be somewhere between three to five wins
09:33so that they can get a top five top seven top ten pick next year it makes no sense to
09:40make sure that
09:40oh we have to draft a tackle and we have to draft a wide receiver with our first round pick
09:45no but
09:46I think what he's saying with Freeling and this is why this is enticing to him with Freeling is that
09:49Freeling is a little bit more of a project and Freeling's not guaranteed not only is he not
09:53guaranteed to start week one uh but Freeling might not start till week seven week eight whatever that
09:57is never start might never start we don't know but the but the the obvious obvious call on Freeling
10:03is that he's not helping your 2026 team that much and so if you can withstand that and dare I
10:09say
10:09even want the team to not have success in 2026 because you're playing for 2027 he's the type of
10:15guy that does fall into their into play because of that I just think so this is where I do
10:20think
10:20kind of the the machinations of it all gets really interesting I think if you're Andrew Perry and you
10:26know there's a decent chance again like I think Andrew has an understanding of where they think they
10:31run simulations on this crap they have tons of analysts working on what are most likely probabilities
10:37for this year you think they have their own mock draft board I guarantee your mock draft system I
10:41guarantee they do mock draft simulations yeah but is it like do they use like pffs or do they use
10:46like whatever the latest version of mock draft simulators are or do they do they have their own
10:49built-in one I would I bet they do all of it I bet you those nerds are just pounding
10:53away at all of
10:55the mock draft simulators including their own all the time it might be the thing I like most about
10:59them you can't just use your own your own proprietary data and your own mock draft data because it would
11:04just it would somebody would you'd be worried that it would be bugged it would give you the
11:08favors that you want it's probably do a composite something like that huh now that being said if
11:14you're Andrew Barry and you're pretty sure this is going to be a three to five win season you can't
11:19take a guy that doesn't start this season or isn't a very like isn't like a day one starter with
11:24your top
11:24three pick like if Andrew Barry wants to be here to take the quarterback in 2027 he's got to walk
11:29the line
11:31of I need to make sure that we're going to be in a position to take that quarterback but you
11:35don't
11:35get judged you first off you don't get judged though off your first let's say it's sixth overall
11:40you don't get judged off of it if the guy doesn't play until week nine of the season yes you
11:44will so
11:44like his but his right now the thing he's got going the most for him is that and I'm just
11:49talking fan
11:50perception out of this is that he can draft based off of last year's draft that doesn't get dinged if
11:54you take Monroe Freeling and he doesn't start till week nine and it's a little bit more of a project
11:57if everyone going into it understands that he's a little bit more of a project isn't going to play
12:01for half the season I think owners say take the best guy and we'll deal with it as the season
12:06goes
12:06on so that's the problem April you don't say that November if that guy's not starting but if he does
12:10that that is Andrew Barry really believing he's safer than Andrew Barry should ever feel when you're
12:15involving yourself with the Haslams right now it seems like he's the right hand man he is he is
12:20Aslam Haslam's chosen one is Andrew Barry but I would never trust that if I was Andrew Barry
12:25you
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