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00:00Tom Pellicero was on the Rich Eisen show late on Friday
00:04and talked about moving a different direction with the No. 6 pick.
00:06They could get the value that they thought was there from Jacksonville,
00:10which was going up to get Travis Hunter.
00:11Could they flip the script?
00:12And Cleveland could be the team making the big, bold move up.
00:15I would not put anything past them,
00:17just depending on where they see the breaks in the board,
00:20where they should be more aggressive.
00:23So I just can't see under any circumstances that aren't for Fernando Mendoza,
00:28who is not on the board.
00:30I cannot see the Cleveland Browns moving up in this draft.
00:34No, I don't see it either.
00:35I do see teams trying to get up to 6 overall, though.
00:38I do see that.
00:39There's a Jeremiah Love path that exists,
00:41or even with some of these edge rushers that we've talked about that exist.
00:44I just don't know who the Browns would be trading up to get.
00:46Yeah.
00:48It makes no sense.
00:50Yeah, I mean, I guess if you really thought David Bailey
00:52was the heir apparent to Miles Garrett
00:54and maybe had designs on dealing Miles in the future,
00:58maybe the near future, maybe that might make sense.
01:01You've got to be one of the only people that would believe that, though.
01:03But maybe from 24, I can see that conversation existing.
01:0824 up into the teens, if there's somebody they really liked
01:11and they scouted and loved.
01:12Yeah, someone like that.
01:13I could see that happening for sure.
01:14I just can't see it from 6.
01:16Even one of the names that I've heard is Carnell Tate.
01:19Because Carnell's been linked to the Jets at 2,
01:21the Titans at 4, and then the Giants right in front of them.
01:24And it's like, listen, I'll be happy with Carnell Tate.
01:28I'll be happy with Carnell Tate or Jordan Tyson.
01:31And if that's your pick at 6, or if you move back a couple spots
01:34and still take that player.
01:36I don't know Carnell.
01:38You know, we're already talking about a guy who might not be Malik Nabors.
01:42A guy who might not be, oh gosh, Jamar Chase.
01:48It's already, the conversation at 6 has already been stretched.
01:52Like, is he really a 6 pick or is he just a 6 pick in this draft?
01:55I think trading up, even if it's just to give up a 4th rounder
01:58to then move up with a team that needs assets everywhere,
02:02it would just feel like, oh, that's the one.
02:04I just don't see it.
02:06Now, what is the cost if you went, let's say you swapped 6 and 5, let's say?
02:11Well, it depends on the year.
02:13The Browns did move up.
02:14No, like for this year.
02:15Yeah, for this year.
02:15All right, I mean, I guess it would be like, for just one spot?
02:18I'm going just one spot.
02:19Like a 5th rounder?
02:20I'm thinking somewhere, yeah, because that's not crazy is what I'm trying to say.
02:24So I know we're saying, oh, it won't happen or whatever,
02:26but if they got an inkling that the Giants really want Carnell Tate
02:29and the Giants are going to be able to smoke out a 5th rounder
02:32in exchange for it, then okay, fine.
02:34I mean, in fairness, what was it?
02:36Was it Reuben Foster out of Alabama got the Bears to give up a future second,
02:41I think, to move up one spot.
02:43The Browns did when they moved up to get Kellen Winslow,
02:46gave up their second rounder in that draft to move up one spot.
02:49I think that's what makes it hard is you don't know the props.
02:51A couple of those are different, too, right?
02:52Like I'm thinking of the Bears, for instance, when they moved with the Trubisky one.
02:56Is that what you're talking about?
02:58Oh, yeah, and then Reuben went to the 49ers at 3?
03:00Correct, yeah, correct.
03:03But that's 3-2, and that's also in dealing with the quarterback
03:06where you're going to pay a lot to begin with anyway.
03:08And you know what I mean?
03:09There's a lot attached to that that isn't just attached to this
03:12and trying to move up for Carnell Tate.
03:14Who you go up for I think matters a ton in this equation as well.
03:18Is there anyone that they go up for?
03:21Because obviously it's not going to be Fernando Mendoza.
03:23Is there anyone that people would be, like, fist-pumping on?
03:28I can't see it.
03:30Think about it.
03:31Let's just go through the big board right now for McShay.
03:33Jeremiah Love is number one.
03:35People aren't fist-pumping for that.
03:38Although I'd like it.
03:39I'd like Jeremiah Love.
03:40But you're not fist-pumping for that.
03:41Sonny Stiles is number two on his board.
03:43Reese is number three.
03:44Is Reese that answer because of the Ohio State connection?
03:47I don't know that people love Reese that way.
03:49I mean, Reese or Tate, I think, because of the Ohio State connection,
03:52would get more love.
03:54I think it would be a lot of, what the hell are they doing?
03:56What are they doing?
03:57And the timeline's going to add up.
03:58Because there isn't a Travis Hunter, kind of the perceptional player
04:01or a quarterback, unless, you're going to hate this,
04:05unless they moved up to get Ty Simpson.
04:08You're right.
04:09I did hate that.
04:09I hated it more.
04:11I don't know why it's a competition now.
04:13But, yeah, I hated it too.
04:14But, yeah, the only thing I hate more than taking Ty Simpson at six
04:19would be moving up to take Ty Simpson earlier in the draft.
04:22But, you know, everything's on the table.
04:24Now, I did want to remind everybody of one of the great moments here.
04:29We are on the eve, the precipice, 10 days away,
04:31from the NFL draft in Pittsburgh.
04:35To me, one of the five funniest draft moments,
04:39which was when David Akers, this is 2018 NFL draft, in Dallas.
04:44I don't know if you guys remember.
04:45That was the first time the Eagles had won a Super Bowl there,
04:50the first of the two championships of the last decade.
04:52And here was David Akers in front of the Dallas crowd.
04:54What's up, Dallas?
04:57I like standing up here before you as an undrafted free agent,
05:02representing that shield for 15 years.
05:05Tonight, I'm representing the Philadelphia Eagles,
05:10NFC East champs, divisional champs,
05:14NFC champs, and world champs.
05:19The world champs.
05:22Hey, Dallas, the last time you were in the Super Bowl,
05:26these draft picks weren't born.
05:30All right, that courtesy of NFL Network a decade ago.
05:33I will tell you,
05:36I forgot how much he sounds like a wrestling manager,
05:40like Jim Cornette.
05:42You just need like a little racket there.
05:44If we were to send somebody in this year,
05:46I want somebody with more of a manly voice
05:48instead of kind of a shrill, screaming kicker.
05:50Okay, that was the polite way to say that.
05:52Kicker.
05:53Kicker.
05:54Sounds like a kicker.
05:56I'd say a kicker.
05:57It sounded like a female PE teacher.
05:59I didn't know what was going on there.
06:01They scare me.
06:03Miss Dilley, when she screamed, you knew it.
06:06Now, I will tell you,
06:08this is where I am a little ashamed
06:10I haven't thought about this.
06:11I'm going to need the Browns to send in a troll.
06:14I'm going to need the Browns to find somebody
06:16who's not afraid to walk onto that stage in Pittsburgh
06:19and cut a promo like this,
06:22remembering, you know,
06:23hey, who has the last playoff win between these two?
06:26Who has more defensive player of the years
06:28than the last three years?
06:30Miles Garrett or TJ Watt?
06:32Just starting to remind Pittsburgh of the fact
06:35that, you know,
06:37they're not,
06:39you know what doesn't stink, basically.
06:41Okay.
06:42So, my thing is,
06:44do it.
06:46Listen, the Browns might not be good this year.
06:47I do need the Browns to send in a troll
06:50to really rile up the Pittsburgh fans.
06:53At some point,
06:53I need it to be the first two days as well.
06:55I don't need a seventh round pick.
06:55Are we talking celebrity,
06:56or what are we talking about?
06:57Because, like,
06:58so I instantly was thinking,
07:00I didn't think celebrity.
07:01Oh, there's always the same celebrities
07:02that you'd think of, right?
07:03Like MGK, for instance.
07:05Does that do anything for Steelers fans?
07:06Probably not.
07:07Yeah, he also,
07:08he kind of annoys me as much
07:10as he might annoy Steelers.
07:11Steve Harvey is, for some reason,
07:12involved in, like, every NFL thing.
07:13But, like, I don't think Steelers fans
07:15are going to care about that at all.
07:16The only person I could think of
07:18from, like, a player perspective,
07:19I did think it'd be awesome
07:20if we just,
07:21and this guy's got to get on board,
07:22we don't even know how he feels about this team.
07:24But if Miles Garrett walked out there,
07:26that would be insane.
07:27Yeah, but here's the thing.
07:28Is Miles,
07:29Miles,
07:29I don't know,
07:30Miles is going to troll.
07:31No, that's the thing.
07:32You don't even have to say anything
07:33if you're Miles Garrett.
07:34You just get to walk up there,
07:35let everybody boo you like crazy,
07:36and then you,
07:37like, you,
07:38you're winning by,
07:39hell,
07:40bring your two DPOI trophies
07:42if you want it.
07:42Now we're,
07:43now we're having the conversation.
07:44Bring the helmet
07:45that you hit Mason Rudolph with.
07:46I mean, come on,
07:47like, let's get,
07:47let's get deep with this.
07:48So does showing up
07:49just have an aura about him?
07:51Would,
07:52would that get people upset at Pittsburgh?
07:54I mean,
07:54he's public enemy number one
07:56when it comes to Brown Steelers
07:57in the previous 10 years.
07:58What if he bought Mason Rudolph's helmet?
08:00Did you not listen to a word
08:01I just said like 30 seconds ago?
08:03Which one?
08:03The one where I said,
08:04what if he brought Mason Rudolph's helmet?
08:06Then clearly I didn't.
08:07You dustin the helmet.
08:08No,
08:08because I heard the two DPOIs
08:09and I got very excited about that
08:11and then I thought,
08:11and then your brain shut off
08:12for the rest of what I was saying.
08:13Yeah, exactly.
08:14Yeah.
08:14Yeah.
08:15That was really funny though.
08:16Like you got really excited.
08:18Wait,
08:18I got it.
08:19What if he brings?
08:21And then that happened.
08:22It did.
08:23Now,
08:24I,
08:25here's the thing is one,
08:27Miles can't show up to OTAs.
08:28You think he'll show up to the NFL draft?
08:30Well,
08:30that's the problem.
08:30Like he's got to be on board
08:31with all of this.
08:32And right now we don't think
08:33that Miles is on board
08:34with anything that the Browns are doing.
08:35I mean,
08:35he is,
08:36he is unquestionably
08:37the biggest villain between the two.
08:39Like if TJ Watt came out
08:41when we were,
08:42when we had the draft a few years ago,
08:43in Cleveland,
08:45and if he had any legs to stand on,
08:46if he was able to actually
08:47like pull that off,
08:49oh my God,
08:50the reigns of booze
08:51that would have been incredible.
08:52Can I,
08:53it doesn't have to be anybody specifically,
08:56but we've got
08:57a whole host of pro wrestlers
08:59from Cleveland.
09:01We just had Nick Nemeth in.
09:02The Miz is obviously great.
09:03He's a Browns fan.
09:04He can cut a promo
09:05like you wouldn't believe.
09:06The only thing about the Miz is,
09:06Do people hate the Miz though?
09:08Well,
09:08yes.
09:09The problem is sometimes
09:10Miz can go heel on Cleveland.
09:13So I don't know if he's a good guy
09:14or a bad guy right now
09:15because if you say,
09:16hey Miz,
09:17we want you to go upset
09:18the crowd in Pittsburgh,
09:19he might just go ahead
09:20and piss people off in Cleveland.
09:22Does he do that with us?
09:23I don't remember him doing that with us.
09:25I think it was,
09:26I remember him wearing an OBJ jersey.
09:28When they came to Cleveland,
09:29he really got under people's skin.
09:31Again,
09:31it's his job,
09:31but I think my point is,
09:33I want a guaranteed ringer
09:35that if it's not Miles
09:36and we send somebody in there
09:37to be a troll,
09:39I need somebody
09:40who can really just work.
09:41Again,
09:42Cleveland face,
09:44Pittsburgh heel.
09:45Nemeth,
09:46because he showed up
09:47in that Browns jacket.
09:48Can you imagine
09:49showing up in that Browns jacket
09:50and then like that,
09:52maybe a different Brown shirt
09:53than the one that he wore?
09:54But like,
09:55just showing up in that
09:56and then just,
09:58just go in the full energy
09:59that we saw.
10:00I mean,
10:00I would trust him
10:01to at least,
10:01you know,
10:02talk smack the polite,
10:03not the polite way,
10:04but the right way.
10:05I think he could be
10:06what maybe Philly was hoping
10:08David Akers would be,
10:09but like a real manly version of that.
10:11So,
10:11but as a non-wrestler,
10:12because I'm just not
10:12a wrestling fan myself,
10:13like that does nothing for me,
10:15you know what I mean?
10:15And so like,
10:16we want to make sure
10:16that it crosses everyone.
10:17Every person in that crowd,
10:20it's got to hit.
10:21And like,
10:21I don't know how much
10:21of the wrestling,
10:23like 30% maybe?
10:24If Nick Nemeth starts
10:25talking smack about Pittsburgh
10:27and talking up the Browns,
10:30I think he would get
10:31the sufficient,
10:32because he's a,
10:33but that's what he is.
10:33He is a,
10:34I mean,
10:34wrestlers are professionals
10:35at working the crowd.
10:37Yeah.
10:37I think he could get people
10:40in Pittsburgh.
10:40They don't even have to know
10:41who he is.
10:42You wear Brown stuff
10:43and just start talking
10:44about how the Browns
10:45are better than Steelers.
10:46I think that would be,
10:48do you agree,
10:48Mac?
10:49I mean,
10:49we're both wrestling fans here.
10:51I think that out of anybody,
10:52I feel like Miz,
10:54Miz knows how to upset a crowd
10:57and how to really get them
10:58against him.
10:59And I feel like
11:00if he's in Cleveland,
11:01like I,
11:02cause I've been at some
11:02of the shows
11:03where he's been the heel
11:04and he's kind of taunt
11:05to the Cleveland crowd
11:06at that point.
11:07But I think knowing
11:08what his role is in that,
11:10I think he would just
11:12be phenomenal
11:12for just trolling
11:14the entire Pittsburgh crowd.
11:15How about LeBron?
11:17I don't think LeBron
11:18would want to be a heel though.
11:19I think LeBron,
11:20and by the way,
11:21I don't know that,
11:22I don't know.
11:22Would Pittsburgh even get angry
11:23enough with LeBron?
11:25I think if somebody,
11:26everybody knows in the audience,
11:27everybody knows LeBron
11:28and they don't have
11:29an NBA team,
11:30obviously.
11:30I don't know if they would,
11:31would associate him
11:32with the Browns enough.
11:33I know LeBron claims
11:35to be a Browns fan,
11:36but like LeBron showing up
11:38in a Browns shirt
11:40and see like,
11:41listen,
11:41I think Miles,
11:42if he wanted to,
11:43could really get that crowd
11:44riled up just by a couple
11:45like smirks.
11:46Yeah.
11:46I don't know LeBron
11:47would want to.
11:48I also,
11:48by the way,
11:49I don't think we win
11:49if we have like one
11:50of the Paul brothers.
11:51I know somebody's going
11:51to say one of the Paul,
11:52like Logan Paul
11:53or one of those guys.
11:54I don't think we win that way.
11:55I don't think we want
11:55to win that way.
11:56I don't think we win that way.
11:57Yeah.
11:57I don't,
11:57I don't know,
11:59you know,
11:59just in chat,
12:00in general,
12:01I,
12:01the less association
12:02we have with them,
12:03I,
12:04I feel better.
12:05I'd be sweet
12:05if Travis Kelsey retired
12:06and then could do it
12:07for the Browns.
12:08No,
12:08that would have been hollow.
12:10Well,
12:10yeah,
12:10no,
12:10but it still would have
12:11been cool
12:11because Steelers fans
12:12would have been able
12:12to recognize like all
12:13the Steelers and Chiefs,
12:14right?
12:15You know,
12:15nonsense they have,
12:16we'd be taking one of
12:17their,
12:17we'd be taking the Chiefs
12:18guys,
12:18basically what that is,
12:19but I think they would
12:19point out how lame that
12:21is.
12:21Yeah,
12:21I would,
12:22I would too.
12:23I,
12:23again,
12:23the walk-off I had
12:24was Miles.
12:24It's all,
12:24it's legitimately the best,
12:26I think the best you can do.
12:27I think there's only
12:28one solution
12:28and maybe he's not
12:30the name that all
12:31these other guys are,
12:33but he can rile people up.
12:35He's got a big personality,
12:38has no problem
12:39speaking truth to power.
12:41It's me.
12:43I,
12:43I,
12:43I would throw your hat
12:44in the ring.
12:44Yeah,
12:44well,
12:44and here's the thing
12:45because I have a vision
12:46of how I would do it.
12:47Are you,
12:47are you also going to
12:48bring the helmet that,
12:49that Miles Garrett hit
12:50Mason Rudolph with?
12:52Yes.
12:52Because that's a selling
12:53point for me.
12:53So it's a selling
12:54point for me.
12:55There's a few things here.
12:56One,
12:56I want the,
12:57I want the bone lady
12:58to fashion me
12:59one of those bone helmets.
13:01Yeah.
13:01Okay.
13:01So I can wear that.
13:02I would face paint
13:03brown and orange.
13:05I would wear my 4X
13:06Jeff Garcia jersey.
13:08Okay.
13:08Now that's brown.
13:09So then I'd find
13:09some orange sweatpants.
13:11Is that an XLT?
13:12That's a 4X.
13:13No,
13:14no,
13:14no,
13:14no.
13:14That's just a 4X.
13:15They just don't,
13:15do they even make X,
13:16do they make the jerseys
13:17that way or no?
13:18They do for some now,
13:19but not back when my dad
13:20bought it 20 years ago.
13:21All right.
13:21Yeah.
13:22So I've got the regalia.
13:23I was thinking of actually,
13:25instead of taking a full size helmet,
13:26I would take a little Steelers helmet,
13:29like the mini replicas.
13:30Yeah.
13:30Like you're holding
13:31like a Halloween bucket.
13:32Yeah.
13:32And then make it like,
13:33Oh,
13:34this is,
13:34this is actually real life-size
13:36Mason Rudolph helmet.
13:37So basically a small brain,
13:39small man.
13:40And then I would just,
13:41I would just talk about guys.
13:43It's so great to be here
13:44and then just go into why
13:46Miles Garrett's the best
13:47defensive player of the decade.
13:49Call TJ.
13:50Wow.
13:51What?
13:51I would go right there with Roger.
13:53I'd call him while,
13:53while,
13:54what?
13:54Right to Rogers face.
13:55Yeah.
13:56And then I just,
13:57maybe even do like a discount
13:58double check or something.
13:59No,
13:59I don't think so.
14:00Nothing for Aaron Rogers.
14:01nothing for Aaron Rogers,
14:03but I'd probably make a Pfizer joke
14:05and then just kind of run with it.
14:06Yeah.
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