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08:47Mais si elle est vraiment plus âgée de ce qu'ils ont dit,
08:52c'est très dangereux.
08:53Chris, je pense que vous êtes vraiment overreacting ici.
08:57The attacks?
08:59Dismembering Ethan Stuffy?
09:01The stuffed animal, ce sont des choses que les enfants font.
09:03Steve!
09:03Mais si elle n'est pas un enfant?
09:05Steve, quelque chose est off.
09:07Je sens ça.
09:09Je...
09:09Je sais ça.
09:11Je vais essayer de trouver ça.
09:13Chris, un de mes deepest regrets
09:15dans mes 30 ans practicing medicine
09:17was not listening to you about Jacob.
09:20You insisted that something was off,
09:22that there was more to the story.
09:24And I ignored your instincts.
09:26I think we all did.
09:28Well, I won't do it again.
09:31I'll get you some referrals.
09:33Thank you.
09:47So, he sent us to every possible specialist under the sun.
09:52Orthopedists.
09:53Endocrinologists.
09:54Neuropsychologists.
09:55The dentists.
09:56I had to get a second philopex just to keep track of her doctor visits.
10:00Natalia, not in the mood.
10:01Let's go.
10:04But the frustrating thing is,
10:06while all the doctors agree she needs a lot of surgeries,
10:09the kind of dwarfism she has is incredibly rare.
10:13Papa says he'd love to be with me.
10:16One doctor told us she is not just one in a million.
10:18She is one in two million.
10:20So, the usual ways they determine age don't work.
10:23You can't find me.
10:26He made me smile.
10:29Now, is it possible she is really just seven years old?
10:32Sure.
10:33But her skull is the size of a fully formed adult.
10:36She has adult teeth.
10:37There are signs of puberty.
10:45And after three months of poking and prodding,
10:48her behavior is worse than ever.
10:49She terrorizes my boys.
10:52In my work, I've dealt with all kinds of kids
10:54with so many different needs.
10:57And I've tried my entire arsenal with Natalia.
11:00Praising.
11:01Redirecting.
11:01Time outs.
11:02Time ins.
11:03Nature walks.
11:04Meditation.
11:05And nothing works.
11:07Because the way you manage behavioral issues
11:10in a seven-year-old is a heck of a lot different
11:12from how you deal with a 15-year-old.
11:17That must be frustrating for you.
11:19Yeah.
11:20It is.
11:22Frustrating.
11:24So, Dr. Birch, how old do you think she is?
11:27Cognitively?
11:28Developmentally?
11:29Well, you're right to be asking about age.
11:32If she were over 18, her behavior would suggest
11:35an antisocial personality disorder,
11:38colloquially known as sociopathy.
11:40You're saying she's a sociopath?
11:43If she's 18, maybe.
11:44But in a child, particularly one with Natalia's background,
11:49her behavior suggests rad.
11:53Reactive attachment disorder.
11:55Now, it's rare, but we do sometimes see this in children
12:00who were abandoned in infancy or spent formative years
12:03in institutional orphanages.
12:04And the behaviors correspond with what you described.
12:08Anger, dishonesty, aggression,
12:11sometimes violence towards pets and siblings.
12:14So, how do you suggest we deal with her behavior?
12:17Are there facilities or rehab centers for children like this?
12:20Hold on.
12:21We're not gonna put her away.
12:22No, no, no.
12:23There is no need to rush to that.
12:26There are proven protocols that do wonders with these cases.
12:32You treat her like an infant.
12:37I'm sorry, what?
12:39It's called reattachment therapy.
12:41Now, imagine this.
12:43In those early days of development,
12:45she did not learn how to attach to her mother,
12:49to depend on her.
12:51Because the mother was gone.
12:53Exactly.
12:54Now, it will take time,
12:55but you can actually rewire her mind.
12:59Interesting.
12:59Teach her that love is safe.
13:02That she can depend on you.
13:04She already depends on us.
13:05Not like this.
13:07Now, it may seem unusual,
13:10but for this to work, you have to fully commit.
13:13Carry her, cradle her, get a crib,
13:16feed her every meal yourself.
13:18Bottle feeding is best,
13:19but you can spoon feed her if that's...
13:21I'm so sorry.
13:25So you're saying, in a few years,
13:28we can diagnose her as a sociopath,
13:30but until then, we should feed her a bottle?
13:32Oh, for crying out loud.
13:34You know his mom had dropped him on his head, right?
13:36For the hundredth time, Mom,
13:38that's a joke Michael made in 1997,
13:40when he took a wrong turn on his way
13:43to the Mentone Egg Festival.
13:44Well, you're entitled to your own spin, I suppose.
13:46But then what good explanation do you have
13:49for why he's in there feeding a grown child a baby bottle?
13:53Let's him feel useful for a minute or two.
13:56Wasn't Jiminy?
13:57Ever since that Star article,
13:59families have been calling me to consult on their kids.
14:02So, I'm making a website,
14:04and this thing lets you put a song on the splash page.
14:09Do you like this one?
14:15Well, it's one way to put lipstick on a pig, I suppose.
14:20What's that supposed to mean?
14:21You know, I'm not an expert in childcare,
14:24but I'm happy to come by and help.
14:26I do have some experience.
14:27You may recall that you were a holy terror at her age.
14:30We don't know her age, Mom. That's the whole thing.
14:33At her size, then.
14:36Point is,
14:37might be best to get your own family in line
14:39before you try and build a business.
14:44I have to go, Mom.
14:46Michael needs some help.
14:47Isn't that the truth?
14:48Well, you know where to find me if you need me.
14:54Okay.
14:56Open up the hanger.
14:59Come in for a lady.
15:01No, it's gross.
15:02Well, I'm...
15:04Mommy and I are just trying to show you
15:05that love can feel safe, honey.
15:07How about...
15:08Will you let me hold you then?
15:09I'll feed you a little milk, okay?
15:11Just a little bit.
15:11Just a little bit.
15:12No, no, no.
15:14Would you at least just try, like,
15:15a little bit of these apples?
15:17They're so yummy, too.
15:19You tell me, baby.
15:19I'm not a baby!
15:22Natalia, go take a walk around the block.
15:26And calm down.
15:41It's fine.
15:42You know, this is all part of it.
15:43Dr. Birch said it would take some time, so...
15:45Well, Michael, the only useful thing that woman said
15:47is that sociopathy starts at 18.
15:49We need to find out how old she is.
15:53So, my wife tells me this thing.
15:56She's like,
15:57you make the impossible possible.
15:59Every day.
16:00When someone tells me no, I say,
16:02watch out!
16:02I'm gonna prove you yes.
16:05Uh-huh.
16:05Mm-hmm.
16:05So, listen, I know things have been...
16:07not looking good here, you know?
16:10But...but look at Best Buy.
16:11Their stock's still cruising.
16:12You wanna know why?
16:13Why?
16:13Lower prices.
16:14Mass merchandising.
16:16Michael, listen...
16:16No, no, no, no.
16:17Listen.
16:19This is not the time to give up.
16:20This is an opportunity.
16:22It's...it's a time to...to think about things
16:24in a whole new way.
16:25Look, man.
16:29You know this.
16:31It's over.
16:34I'm gonna need you and your team
16:35to vacate by the end of the day.
16:37Okay?
16:37Great.
16:41What to do.
16:43Adoption scam.
16:46Fake age.
16:48How to know international birth certificate.
16:53Real.
17:09Christine Barnett.
17:11Mm-hmm.
17:13Oh.
17:14We'd be honored.
17:17We could do it here.
17:19Tomorrow.
17:21Sure.
17:22No.
17:22No, yes.
17:23Thank you.
17:24Thank you for helping us get our little story out there.
17:28Okay.
17:29Thank you so much.
17:29Okay.
17:30We'll see you soon.
17:35Woo!
17:35Ah!
17:43Hi.
17:55God.
17:57Oh, what is the fuck?
18:00Oh.
18:01No.
18:02Oh, no...
18:03whose name is pink,
18:03Do you wanna beauty?
24:37Sous-church ST' 501
24:37everything's okay natalio what were you thinking you can't do things like that sweetheart you can't
24:41i'm sorry daddy i didn't mean to mommy was just being so mean to me you're the only one who
24:47understands me i'm going to vals and i'm taking the board it's okay sweetie it's okay
25:05you know that there is a movie about exactly this right what movie it came out last year it was
25:12called orphan don't judge me but i loved it but it's about this little girl who gets adopted and
25:18at first she's very sweet and she starts getting violent and then she's you know threatening the
25:24family with knives and i mean i even think there was something with the car
25:30what do the parents do they die well the dad dies but wait i haven't even told he's the worst
25:38part
25:38it turns out she's not a kid at all she's got dwarfism she is an adult a sociopathic serial killer
25:47oh lordy oh sweetie sweetie no no no no i'm so sorry i'm so sorry don't listen to me okay
25:55it's just
25:56a stupid movie it is not your life except it's pretty darn close well yeah worst part is michael
26:03doesn't see any of it well of course not men never see what we see they're too afraid to see
26:09it but
26:10you're not you're gonna figure this out i need a scarf oh you know what one of my girlfriends told
26:18me about this therapist who works with teenagers apparently he's ex-military her teenager was very
26:25troubled and well she says he's unorthodox but apparently he saved her kid where is he well it's all
26:33online you just take videos of your kid and then i don't know you send them to him and he
26:38gives you
26:39feedback i mean i'll send you his information it's tough loving your teenager or something like that
26:47the pink looks divine on you
26:51maybe something a little less soft okay yeah dress for the woman you want to be
26:58i count my blessings every day and i get to be jacob's mama he's lucky too you know one of
27:04the things
27:04that really struck me about this story is just the power of a mother's intuition you didn't listen
27:10to any of the doctors who told you jacob would never speak again no i didn't where did that come
27:18from
27:18that idea that i'm going to reject the opinions of these experts i'm his mother and i'm not afraid to
27:25do
27:25this my way some people would call me stubborn but i'm just a person who trusts my instincts
27:34you don't follow your own truth who are you i can just imagine the conversation you had with your
27:39husband sweetie i don't care what the professionals are saying i think they're wrong and you know what
27:46i have a different plan how did that go it did not go well but what was i going to
27:53do everybody had
27:55given up hope on finding answers for jacob but one thing to know about me christine barnett
28:01i don't like not having answers are you okay there christine
28:15huh uh are you okay yes yes are you sure you need a break no i um i
28:25think we should just talk more about jacob wouldn't you like to hear more about jacob isn't that what
28:29everybody would like um of course uh michael it's me i've been trying to call you where are you
28:36call me back very very important it's about natalia call me back
28:49i i don't want to do any more tv interviews
28:54oh but don't say that we were on a roll until i got distracted and they said they'd edit that
29:02part
29:02out no one will ever know it's not about that
29:08okay what's it about that
29:13i don't like when you talk about yourself like that
29:19oh well how do i talk about myself i don't know your voice gets
29:28different you just don't seem like yourself
29:36oh of course baby
29:42we don't have to do any more tv if that's what you need
29:59hey babe how'd it go
30:05i found what you left me in the living room
30:14you think this is funny
30:17go ahead tell daddy what you did today
30:21go ahead tell him about the tampon
30:25uh it's okay sweetie you can tell me anything well
30:31i have a period and i've been hiding it okay um for how long
30:43i know mommy said it ask her
30:52i'm sorry um i'm a little lost sweetheart
30:56are you hiding your period or does mommy just think so
31:03i don't know i don't know what's going on oh for crying out loud she knows exactly what's going
31:09on she's been hiding her period and putting socks in her underwear i found a pile of bloody socks
31:15yesterday and i confronted her about it and to punish me she made me crash the car but apparently
31:21that wasn't enough because today she tried to sabotage my interview by leaving a bloody tampon
31:26on the set which almost ruined the entire day which is exactly what she wanted children don't know
31:34how to manipulate like this michael she's got you wrapped around her finger and you don't see it
31:39but i do and she's punishing me for seeing it how long have you had your period you are not
31:46seven
31:47years old admit it chris let's maybe give her some space you need to tell me the truth right now
31:51how old are you
32:06i'm not pretending she's a little girl anymore things need to change
32:18everything your father and i provide you with is a privilege moving forward if you wish to receive
32:25privileges you will have to earn them with good behavior and consistent completion of chores every
32:32day you'll be responsible for a new set of chores today is cleaning the kitchen you may now be dismissed
32:45i said you may now be dismissed
32:52go get up against that wall what we also have a new system of punishment in place that escalates every
33:01time you disobey this is level one i am asking you politely to stand with your nose against the wall
33:36i'm not scared of you you know
33:39but daddy is he didn't tell you he lost his job did he
33:51you do not want to see what this website says about lying natalia
33:57michael is the one who's lying
34:00the store closed he's known for months
34:06natalia go take a walk around the block
34:24doggone it michael
34:53i'm ready to clean now
34:54i'm ready to clean now
35:03i'm ready to clean now
35:07what's up with the letter
35:11chris
35:13we can talk about it later
35:15i don't understand
35:18no way okay what what is going on glenn beck's producer saw me and jacob's interview last week
35:26and wants us to go to new york to be on the show mom no you promised
35:31dad will you come up here for a minute yes i'm coming
35:34no no bud we won't go it's just flattering is all
35:48notalia what did you do
35:52what did you put that in my coffee no did you try to poison me what no smell it stop
36:00it
36:02hey hey hey chris chris you can't yell at her like she tried to poison me smell my coffee she
36:07put you
36:07put bleach in mommy's coffee no i was cleaning around the cup i i i i didn't do it i
36:13promise
36:14okay i i wasn't here i didn't see her do it jacob did you see her put anything do you
36:18want to see
36:18what that paper is okay
36:22it's your immigration papers i apply for them online you are obsessed okay fine let's hear it
36:28how old is natalia it says she's seven okay she's but the photo on the paper isn't her what
36:34she stole someone's identity to impersonate a child
36:38i don't know i mean maybe it's just a bad photocopy oh for pete's sake michael i don't know
36:48okay i'm just saying what i see i'm sorry
36:53what do you think does that look like you
36:57is that you daddy i'm scared can you carry me to my room does it look like you
37:01chris chris chris chris it's okay
37:06this isn't her
37:38we are two blocks from central park and carnegie hall
37:42wow this looks like the type of place that has gold toilets don't you think jakey
37:48i don't care about golden toilets you've said no more interviews well sometimes moms know best
37:55chris please tell me we're not paying for this place
38:01don't worry about it baby you just got a big promotion
38:09okay i'm off wait where are you going squeezing in a family consult i'll see you at glenn beckett
38:14i'll be fine oh and grab my dress i'll see you jakey
38:35okay
38:35hi can i help you hi sorry to pop in on you like this
38:40i'm christine barnett natalia grace's new mom i brought some kringle are you kidding me
38:49oh come on please if you don't get off my porch right now i'm calling the cops
39:00clearly this is fake and your address is on it so maybe i'm the one who needs to be calling
39:06the cops
39:13fine five minutes we can't talk here why can't we talk here
39:24what do you want information the truth nothing about natalia makes sense the adoption agency made
39:31us pay seven grand to your family for surgeries she never had do you know anything about that
39:38did you pay it well by the time i knew something was fishy they had closed first path closed
39:46oh jesus you know well maybe you should ask natalia about it she's very smart do you think she's in
39:56on
39:56this do you think she's older is that why you gave her up if my husband knew that i was
40:02out here
40:03talking about her this was supposed to be a closed adoption for a reason but what was the reason i'm
40:09begging you she's destroying my life my family threatening my career i'm here because of you you put this on
40:17us
40:19you owe me an explanation
40:23i never meant to hurt anyone we just i had to protect my family
40:33from what
40:46it's so much worse than we thought she's been playing us this whole entire time
40:53she's in on it
40:56in on what exactly with first path as a way to get her medical care paid for
41:03and to skim some money off the top the mom said she knows exactly what she's doing and she's an
41:11adult
41:13she said that yeah that she's made the whole thing up it's an act and get this the birth date
41:22on
41:22natalia's messed up paperwork is exactly the same birth date as mary's son what are the odds
41:30well they're exactly one in 365. don't get fresh with me i'm not being fresh i was just saying what
41:39okay what are we gonna do what um
41:46what michael i just
41:49i i see i see where you're coming from i just i'm not totally convinced
41:55i was sobbing my brains out on the drive back here because finally i have some answers
42:02and somehow that still isn't enough for you honey it just doesn't explain things for me
42:09how can that be i don't know okay i don't know maybe you can't explain love or or or lack
42:17of love
42:17you know chris when you grow up thinking that no one loves you that maybe nobody's ever gonna love
42:27you do you know what that does to a person i don't think you really understand oh michael are you
42:33still
42:34on that baby bottle quack she made good points get real oh okay how would you know how would you
42:40know
42:41you you're too terrified to even consider therapy what's that supposed to mean it means you had a
42:48horrific childhood too okay your dad effed you up but instead of trying to fix it or or or work
42:56through
42:56you know what you just go around seeing ghosts everywhere and
43:06thought you said i was nothing like my dad
43:10i didn't mean do you remember the last time you told me i needed therapy
43:14it was when all the doctors were saying that jacob would never speak again when are you going to
43:17leave that alone this is not at all the same thing chris you're right it is not at all the
43:21same thing
43:22because it isn't jacob's fault that he has autism this is natalia's fault she's choosing to con us
43:28you're choosing to believe her you're choosing to let her break us apart oh my gosh you you're the
43:34one who's been sneaking around behind my back you're the one lying to me michael barnett you are shameless
43:40what your big promotion
43:44what about it you've been lying to me for months natalia told me
43:53she told you she did you live in denial denial about jacob about your job about the fact that
44:01there's a sociopathic con artist making a fool of you we are done talking about this here's what's
44:08going to happen when we go home we're going to put her in a psychiatric hospital who can handle
44:13her problems no no no no i'm not going to let you do that chris i'm just hold on let's
44:18take a breath
44:18okay what this honey this is going too far okay look what happened to the little girl we would save
44:26and and would save us and and we could dance with her at her wedding honey this this is still
44:32our daughter
44:33honey oh michael she's not our daughter
45:01um thing is though the world thinks she is christine
45:06and you have been invited on national television to tell everybody that you um refused to give up
45:18on one disabled child
45:26what's glenn beck gonna think when he finds out that you gave up on another one
45:33you're threatening me
45:39that's where we are
45:46fine
45:49not paying for her surgeries
45:51i don't want any of her classmates to get hurt so she can't go to school good what's she gonna
45:57do
45:57all day well you don't have a job so that's great you can take care of her gladly you can
46:02make her
46:02meals do it better than you make sure she's clean and don't take your eyes off her for a second
46:07because that girl is dangerous she is not i am not paranoid you are in denial
46:12this narrative
46:12i'll be on you
46:14hi
46:17uh i i i'm i'm so sorry but we're ready for you
46:24okay we're coming
46:26be right there
46:27at times life might feel a little hopeless but no my website glennbeck.com found a little bit of
46:35hope recently in a boy named jacob barnett he's a 13 year old science prodigy and he's renewing
46:41faith that the power of a person's mind can change the world he's here today with his parents christine
46:47and michael barnett who in raising this boy have proven once again that a good american family is the
46:55solution to all of our nation's ills we're so happy to be here glenn i think in recent years many
47:03americans have been asking what is happening with this country with this world with the american family
47:15sometimes a man and a woman spends 30 or 40 years together
47:21and they don't belong together then one day one of them tries to leave and does but in a most
47:30peculiar way woman one of these days i'm leaving leaving you fall behind
47:41and on that day you'll be
47:42leave on woman i don't mind