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03:16And a very special good evening, Trinidad and Tobago and the rest of the world.
03:35I'm Arlen Hopkins.
03:35And as always, welcome to Beyond the Tape.
03:38Yeah, just two more days, yeah?
03:40Just two more days.
03:42Mark will be back on Monday, all right?
03:44So I'm going to enjoy the time that I have with you for the next two days, all right?
03:49So here's what, co-hosting with me.
03:52I'm not sure if he's joining me or I'm joining him, all right?
03:55But we do have Acting ASP Ishmael.
03:58Officer, always good to see and speak with you.
04:01Yes, yes, yes.
04:01Thank you, Marlon.
04:02Good evening and good evening, Trinidad and Tobago.
04:04Yeah.
04:04How have you been?
04:05I've been good.
04:06I've been good.
04:07What do you need to do?
04:08Look in the morning, you know.
04:09You'll see what is happening there.
04:11I've been looking.
04:12Yeah?
04:12Yeah, I've been looking, of course.
04:14Yeah?
04:14Get up, have my morning cup of tea.
04:16Yeah.
04:16And I sit down and I look at the program.
04:18And take it in.
04:19Yes.
04:19All right, thank you very much.
04:20All right, everybody.
04:21So here's what.
04:22Let's get right into things, because we do have limited time and we do have a lot for
04:26you on the program today.
04:28So, officer, you have some news for us.
04:31And it concerns bodies of women found at midnight in shallow graves.
04:36Yes, the decomposed body of two men, believed to be of Spanish descent, were discovered buried
04:41in shallow graves late Wednesday night off Line Road Extension, Warren Road in Bucal.
04:48Well, this discovery was made around 11.40 p.m. by officers of the National Special Operations
04:54Unit, acting on a tip-off from a confidential informant.
04:59Officers ventured approximately 42 feet into thick, grassy terrain on the northern side of
05:04the road where they observed signs that the ground had been recently disturbed.
05:09According to reports, the grass appeared flattened and the soil freshly turned.
05:12Upon excavation, officers under the remains of two people, believed to have been killed
05:17and buried.
05:19Seen was scored north on multiple units on the Chantebago Police Service, responded, including
05:22officers from the Homicide Bureau, Crime Scene Investigations, Canine Unit, and the Central
05:27Division Task Force.
05:28So, definitely, Marlon, we are treating with a situation there that, you know, any member
05:34of the public who may have information can feel free to communicate with the 999-555-800-TIPS.
05:40You know, any situation involving women, especially children, and the circumstances in itself will
05:48warrant that level of concern that most members of the public will have.
05:54Yeah.
05:54Yeah.
05:54But it's a second day in a row where we are seeing that the police is talking about members
06:02of the public coming forward and helping them.
06:05Yes.
06:05And yesterday we spoke about it, and I want to speak again about it today, because when
06:11you have something like that happening between the police and members of the public, it's
06:16a victory.
06:17Of course.
06:19Of course.
06:19Right?
06:19Yeah.
06:20And through our varying community programs, we continue to seek to bridge that gap, so
06:28that level of communication, it flows.
06:31And it contributes to persons being more encouraged towards giving information.
06:38Because a lot of what we do is hinged on that public support, that level of cooperation, because
06:43notwithstanding technology, and we may have cameras outfitted in a lot of areas, we still
06:49need that information, that human touch.
06:52So for that reason, we continue to encourage members of the public, please be your brother's
06:55keeper.
06:56Please cooperate with us.
06:58We cannot do it alone.
06:59As much as persons might suggest police know who the criminals are, and they can go ahead and
07:04do X, Y, Z.
07:05We may know who persons are, persons of interest, but we need to get the information, we need
07:11to get the evidence.
07:12And for that reason, that level of cooperation is priceless.
07:15But the relationship between the police and members of the public, it's like that, eh?
07:19Yes.
07:19It's like a roller coaster.
07:21Yes.
07:21So sometimes the relationship is very, very good.
07:23Then something happens, and then it goes down, and then it comes back up.
07:28And I have witnessed over the years where I think that sometimes the relationship would
07:33be very, very good, but also very bad.
07:35So in your assessment as what you're seeing, let's say recently, how do you judge that
07:42relationship?
07:43That's an excellent question.
07:45So I agree with you that the relationship in itself is somewhat fragile.
07:49And there are several things that can contribute it going up and contribute it going down.
07:54For example, someone might be very police friendly, if we should call it that.
07:59Yes.
07:59And they might get a ticket.
08:01Mm-hmm.
08:02And not everyone would want to accept that they are subject to the law, yeah?
08:08And based on that ticket, their entire view of the police service is now strained.
08:15And that person could turn from being cooperative and informant, if you may, to being someone
08:22who is more reserved and who would encourage persons to not cooperate to the police.
08:28On the other hand, we must admit that sometimes our own actions as police officers, sometimes
08:34our lack of professionalism, if you would call it that, can also contribute to that fragile
08:40relationship.
08:41And we often tell officers, you know, that first impression is very important.
08:45So notwithstanding, we have a very critical role.
08:50And sometimes that role, and sometimes that role means being unpopular, you can execute it
08:55with a level of professionalism and courtesy to the extent that the individual feels appreciated
09:03as a human being.
09:04Yes.
09:05Yeah, and that is very significant.
09:06Yeah.
09:07Just incidentally, good evening to the officer or officers who I just saw on the Beatham Highway
09:14assisting someone with their blown tire, right?
09:18So things like that, simple things like that contribute to this blossoming relationship
09:25between members of the public and the police.
09:28But how are police expected to, in light of what we are discussing, and in that context,
09:37because of this fragile relationship, how are police officers expected to act, knowing
09:44that, hmm, if I act a certain way, it could, it could...
09:48Compromise.
09:49Yeah.
09:51Well, I'll give them our oath.
09:53We have to do what we have to do.
09:55As I said before, oftentimes you may have to make unpopular decisions.
09:58Yes.
09:58And the law would trump, yeah, the law would take precedence regarding whatever decision
10:04we have to make.
10:05But we are saying that it's not necessarily what you do, but how you do it.
10:08Yes.
10:09And even if we may not impact everyone by having that type of approach, there are a lot of persons
10:15who would feel appreciative based on how they are treated.
10:19And you will hear it from members of the public, even prisoners.
10:23I accept that I did something wrong, but I must admit that the police treated me with dignity.
10:29Yeah.
10:29And fairly.
10:30All right, so we're moving on.
10:32Let's go now to another story, and it deals with a high school teacher from Florida has
10:40pleaded guilty to her role in a transnational firearms smuggling operation linked to a criminal
10:45organization based in Trinidad and Tobago.
10:48So Shannon Lee Samlalsing, 46, of Tampa, appeared before a U.S. court on June 20th and admitted
10:54to making false statements to a federally licensed firearms dealer.
11:00According to a statement from the United States Department of Justice, Samlalsing now faces
11:05up to five years in federal prison.
11:09All right?
11:09Let me just go deeper into this story.
11:12So authorities say Samlalsing received money from individuals affiliated with the organization
11:17and was directed on exactly what to purchase.
11:20She later arranged for the weapons and components to be concealed in cargo items, specifically
11:26a wireless speaker and punching bags before shipping them to Trinidad and Tobago.
11:30On April 21, 2021, authorities at Piacco International Airport intercepted a shipment arriving from
11:37the U.S.
11:38Two punching bags were found to contain a substantial cache of firearms and accessories, including
11:4411 9mm pistols, 2.38 caliber special revolvers, 1.12 gauge semi-automatic shotgun, 19 lower pistol grip
11:55assemblies, 32 AR-15 magazines, 3 AR-15 style barrels with forearm grips, 470 rounds of AR-15 ammunition.
12:08I want to speak a little bit about that.
12:11Jackie, I do have some time, right?
12:13Because I think that something that has dogged the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service and dogged
12:21the country for a number of years now is the use of these high-powered weapons in Trinidad
12:29and Tobago.
12:30And during the SOE, I said to the police commissioner at that time, I said, commissioner, yes, you have
12:37statistics there where we're seeing that serious crimes are down, murders are even down.
12:44I said, but you see these numbers concerning these high-powered weapons, where it seems to
12:49me that they have disappeared.
12:51And I say that because we have seen so many incidents with the use of these high-powered
12:57weapons.
12:58I mean, you are a man in the community.
13:02You're always on patrol with your team and so on.
13:04Do you see a change at all?
13:08Is there a lessening of these high-powered weapons, you think, in Trinidad and Tobago?
13:13Well, regrettably, I would say no.
13:15Yeah.
13:16So your observation and your concerns are somewhat in sync with reality.
13:22Yeah.
13:22And even our very own officers, when they go out and they beat, you know, it's a level
13:30of concern.
13:33Thinking to yourself, you may at times encounter that type of deadly force.
13:40And we have been in situations where even the bullets, the ammunition is armor-piercing.
13:51So it's a serious, serious, serious concern.
13:54And when you hear about stories like that, where persons are brought up contributing to
13:58this and persons who are even nationals, it, you know, it begs the question where is patriotism
14:05in all this.
14:07Yeah.
14:07Mm-hmm.
14:07Because you know that those weapons are not being sent to facilitate any birthday party.
14:14It's for death.
14:15It's to kill people.
14:16Yeah.
14:16And if you can't feel so comfortable being part of that process, you know, it really
14:21begs the question as to your character.
14:24Yeah.
14:24Yeah.
14:24But then again, but here's what, we'll deal with that because we have some business to
14:29attend to.
14:29All right?
14:29Yeah.
14:30So Jackie, let's go to the two escapees, still outstanding.
14:34Yeah.
14:35So this gentleman is still outstanding.
14:41Yeah.
14:41And this gentleman.
14:42So the police service is asking for, calling on members of the public for any information
14:49that they do have in connection with these gentlemen.
14:53I want to speak a little bit.
14:55I just have about a minute, officer.
14:57But speak to the problem that we may have right now where some people may want to help
15:07these individuals and harbor these individuals.
15:09Should they do that?
15:10They should not.
15:11They should not.
15:14You see, sometimes we may invite persons into our homes thinking that we are being our brother's
15:19keeper.
15:20And those persons may take your kindness for weakness.
15:24You are talking about persons who are running from the law, so to speak.
15:28And when persons are in those situations, they can become desperate.
15:32Yeah.
15:32So you don't want to put your family at risk and put God out your thoughts, so to speak,
15:38and have these persons within your space.
15:39On first sight, anybody who may look anywhere close to any of these individuals, please
15:47inform the nearest police station, 555-800-TIPS-999.
15:51Don't take it for granted.
15:53Yeah.
15:53It is better that we intervene and the officers recognize that the individual or individuals
16:00are not the persons that we are looking for.
16:01Yeah.
16:02Then you make that judgment call, and you are wrong, and those persons go on now to cause
16:08somebody somehow.
16:09Yeah.
16:10All right.
16:10So we do have some headlines for you.
16:12Let's take in that now.
16:13All right, everybody.
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19:34All right, everybody.
19:53So welcome back.
19:54Of course, Acting ASP Ishmael Pitt is here with us.
19:58Officer, let's go to El Dorado,
20:00where something has happened in El Dorado.
20:02I want you to look at that, all right?
20:03So what we're seeing here, two, I don't want to call them gentlemen,
20:07two.
20:07Ah, please don't.
20:09He says, please don't.
20:10Two fellas.
20:12Yeah, one of them in a, two of them in hoodies, right?
20:15Both of them in hoodies.
20:16And they have come to relieve the owners of this vehicle.
20:18Yeah.
20:19That they bought.
20:20Apparently.
20:23How should an individual,
20:27and I'm talking about the owner of this vehicle,
20:30deal with a matter such as this?
20:32Suppose the alarm goes off,
20:34and the individual looks through his window,
20:36and sees this happening.
20:37What should the individual do?
20:39That's an excellent question,
20:41and it's a judgment call considering the threat in itself.
20:48If the persons are armed with firearms,
20:50which oftentimes they are,
20:52then one needs to be very careful as to the choices that they are making.
20:56So it might be more prudent to discreetly communicate with the police officers within your area,
21:04999 as the case may be.
21:06If it is that you can raise an alarm and do it so from a position of safety,
21:13then that is another excellent approach.
21:16But it needs to be calculated because if you get it wrong,
21:19then you can put yourself in danger.
21:21It has happened,
21:22and we know that now persons are introducing the horn within the communities,
21:29and it has worked tremendously where in situations like this,
21:33if a neighbor is to observe what is taking place,
21:36or even the homeowner,
21:37they could have that horn, you know, sounded,
21:41and for that reason, the bandits would usually run off.
21:46So that's a good approach,
21:48but it needs to be calculated
21:50because if you get it wrong,
21:51it can cause you some harm.
21:53You know, that can go.
21:54All right, so, well,
21:56we saw in the video where the two individuals got fed up.
21:59Subsequently left.
22:00They left, all right?
22:01But I suspect the advice is that
22:04if anyone still has information as to who this individual should be,
22:08then contact the police.
22:09Definitely, because they got away,
22:12or the person they were unable to get this vehicle.
22:16But those guys,
22:17they are out shopping.
22:18So we need to know who they are.
22:20They have committed offenses,
22:22and for that reason,
22:23we would want them to have them questioned
22:25and brought to account regarding whatever offenses.
22:28All right, Jackie.
22:29Yeah.
22:30Let's go to Beetham now.
22:31And this has become a common occurrence now, you know, sir.
22:38Yeah, it has become what we'll call street entertainment.
22:42And the reason why I say that
22:44is because there are persons who will be looking on,
22:46and they would not intervene.
22:47For them, it is exciting.
22:50It is stimulating, you know,
22:53and they are quite comfortable with what they are seeing
22:56until probably, you know,
23:00they recognize that someone is seriously injured,
23:02and it appears to be two separate scenes.
23:05So the person who is taking the video or filming,
23:09as the case may be,
23:10that person is, again,
23:12doing so for the purpose of entertainment, gratification,
23:16because you can't intervene.
23:17And there are persons who are coming around,
23:19they are looking on,
23:19and nobody is finding it fit, for example.
23:23Yeah.
23:24What is happening?
23:26What is happening?
23:28What are they drinking down there?
23:31What are they eating?
23:32Everybody is fighting.
23:33But you see, some people may see this as fun, officer,
23:37but that can have devastating consequences
23:40for all the parties involved.
23:42Of course.
23:42Someone could be injured,
23:43someone could be killed,
23:45and then you have to face the law.
23:46Yeah, exactly.
23:47And sometimes it doesn't stop there.
23:49So, as we say, local plans,
23:52some person's taught.
23:53Yeah.
23:54And then tomorrow they want to go and talk to somebody
23:56who they feel could come back and do something.
23:58And it continues to have a ripple effect.
24:00So, situations as simple as that,
24:04could turn fatal for a number of persons,
24:06and we have seen it in the past.
24:07Yeah.
24:08Jackie, you have something else for us?
24:10All right.
24:11So, here's what.
24:11You can take your calls, eh?
24:13Do we have a call?
24:14623-1711.
24:15The extensions are 1996 and 1997.
24:17So, please call us now.
24:19Officer, you wanted to make a point.
24:20I suspect it was concerning the escapees.
24:24Yes.
24:24So, you asked of me in terms of persons
24:27who may want to invite these persons into their homes
24:29or assist in terms of having them avoid capture.
24:32I gave a response from the perspective of being safe
24:35and securing your family and community,
24:37as the case may be.
24:38But there's also a criminal element attached to it.
24:41If persons knowingly harbor these persons,
24:43then they are guilty of an offense.
24:45So, we are asking persons,
24:46so please, if it is that you have information
24:48concerning these individuals,
24:50communicate with the nearest police station,
24:51555-800-TIPS, as soon as possible,
24:54if not before.
24:55Yeah.
24:55All right.
24:57All right.
24:58While we wait for that call,
25:00but it would not be prudent for an individual
25:04to ascertain the merits of this situation
25:08and decide, well, here's what.
25:11Judging from what the individuals have told me,
25:13I am going to harbor them
25:14and I'm going to give them a safe space.
25:17Well, and that's why I use the word knowingly.
25:20So, if it is based on what they were told
25:22and their lack of information,
25:23they were totally unaware
25:25and they were just being civic-minded
25:28and they had this extreme sense of humanity
25:31that they wanted to invite persons into their home,
25:33then that's something totally different.
25:35Yeah.
25:35But if they knowingly,
25:37and, you know,
25:39that's something that we must take into consideration
25:41as far as the law has directed,
25:43if they knowingly do that,
25:44then definitely an offense has taken place.
25:46All right.
25:47Let's take our first call.
25:48Good evening, caller.
25:49Yeah.
25:50Good evening, Marlon.
25:51Good evening.
25:52Officer Pitt.
25:54Mm-hmm.
25:54Good evening, ma'am.
25:55Good evening, ma'am.
25:58Call her.
25:59I would have been calling the officer's name.
26:01Officer Pitt.
26:03Ishmael Pitt.
26:04Acting ASB Ishmael Pitt.
26:05Yes.
26:07I was making a call on behalf of my husband.
26:09I don't know.
26:10A couple of weeks ago,
26:12he called and talked to you
26:13and they told him to give him his number off.
26:15They ended up calling back
26:16and he never received any call.
26:18Confident, an accident,
26:20Kodi Osteriba, Hittikan, all of that.
26:23Okay.
26:24Okay.
26:25Well, what had happened, caller,
26:26is that my clerk communicated
26:29with the Southern Division
26:30and they indicated that they would have communicated
26:33with their husband.
26:34Some follow-up did take place
26:36and I think there was something
26:40that he was missing
26:41in order to drop off to the police station.
26:43So what I would do,
26:44I would communicate with the officers there again
26:46so that that follow-up takes place
26:48and we could bring this to some kind of closure.
26:51All right.
26:51Yeah.
26:52So you're calling us on 623-1711.
26:54The extension, it's 1996 and 1997.
26:57Well, five females charged in school assault incident.
27:00So the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service
27:02has formally charged five female individuals
27:04in connection with an incident
27:06that occurred outside the compound
27:07of a secondary school located in Coover on June 10.
27:11The incident which involved a student of the institution
27:13resulted in an investigation by officers
27:16attached to the Coover Police Station.
27:20Yeah.
27:20Let's take another call.
27:21Good evening, caller.
27:23Hi, good day.
27:24Good day.
27:25Good day.
27:26I'm calling concerning a matter
27:29that's taking me from my daughter's school.
27:32Go ahead, ma'am.
27:33She's experiencing cyberbullying
27:36and bullying at the moment.
27:39And what happened is I'm fearful for what might happen.
27:49All right.
27:49So here's what.
27:51What has she reported this to the teachers
27:54and the principal at the institution?
27:56And what have they done?
27:57Well, I spoke with the police.
28:04I reported it to her form teacher, the principal.
28:08I suppose I have a meeting with the principal tomorrow,
28:10but you know how children operate.
28:12So I'm wondering what may happen next from there.
28:18All right.
28:18You'd like to give us some advice, sir?
28:20Yeah, definitely.
28:20So she said she reported it
28:22and she also communicated with the principal,
28:24the school authorities.
28:25Yes.
28:25Ma'am, you're still there?
28:27Yes, I am.
28:28Yes.
28:28So you can leave your number off air
28:31so that we can have some further discussion.
28:34Yeah.
28:35And you see, officer,
28:37I know that the education ministry,
28:41I know principals and teachers,
28:43I know that the police,
28:44that they would be bombarded
28:46with complaints such as these.
28:49Yes.
28:50But these complaints need to be addressed almost immediately
28:55because we have seen what could happen
28:58because of cyberbullying.
29:00We have seen a suicide happen because of this.
29:04Of course.
29:04And I'm sure it could result in all types of violence
29:09at the institution.
29:10Of course.
29:11Of course.
29:11It's a very serious thing.
29:13You know, it's very demeaning.
29:15It puts children in a position of trauma.
29:19And for that reason,
29:20it must be dealt with swiftly and robustly.
29:23So oftentimes, you know,
29:25persons like to what we will call compare.
29:30And they may say,
29:31well, probably at that stage,
29:32I didn't, you know,
29:33those circumstances,
29:35I may not have reacted that way.
29:36But we all understand
29:37that the environment is changing.
29:39And people are different.
29:42Children are different
29:42to when we were children.
29:43Yeah.
29:44You know, so what we could have tolerated,
29:47it's not to take it for granted
29:48that the children of today can tolerate that.
29:50So we need to take action
29:51and we need to take action swiftly.
29:53It is something that is wrong.
29:55It is unlawful.
29:57And, you know,
29:57the necessary action must be taken
29:59in order to preserve the innocent.
30:01Yeah.
30:01All I would like to say about that,
30:03you know,
30:03what is different
30:04and even more serious
30:05from the time that we would have gone to school,
30:09now the bullying could be
30:12or that individual could be exposed
30:14to not one or two people,
30:17but 2,000 people.
30:18That is correct.
30:195,000 people.
30:19That is correct.
30:20So you have 5,000 people
30:22That is correct.
30:22bullying an individual
30:24Yeah.
30:24who may just be 10 years,
30:2511 years, 12 years.
30:27That is correct.
30:27You know?
30:28And when you bring it into that cyber realm,
30:29that is exactly what is happening.
30:31Yeah.
30:31Because it's not just that
30:32the persons who were
30:34in the immediate vicinity
30:35may have seen something.
30:37Yeah.
30:37But now when you put it all over
30:39these different social media platforms
30:41and you expose that person to the world
30:43and to ridicule
30:43even from amongst their peers,
30:45Yeah.
30:45then you can understand
30:46the different degrees of trauma
30:48Yeah.
30:49a child would face.
30:50All right, everybody.
30:51We are going to a very short break.
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33:42Jackie, hold the caller for two seconds.
33:45Officer Pitt, you know somebody named Forbes Passat?
33:49Indeed.
33:51I suspect you know that person as well.
33:53He didn't tell me to read this message, but I'm sure, Mr. Passat, this is appropriate, right?
33:58So he says, it is so nice to see two former Eldorado brown pupils on national television spreading positive messages to the national community, and in particular, our young people.
34:10Keep it up, Forbes Passat.
34:11Mr. Passat, thank you very much, and thank you for inspiring a lot of people.
34:18He was one of the teachers.
34:21I'm sure that he would have said something to you or would have told you something positive.
34:27That's right.
34:28So to you, a very special good evening.
34:31He was a football coach, physical education teacher.
34:34Yeah, he was.
34:35He's someone who demanded and commanded a certain amount of respect.
34:39Yeah.
34:40Yeah, so.
34:41So good evening, Mr. Passat.
34:42Thank you very much.
34:43All right, let's take a call now.
34:44Good evening, caller.
34:45Good evening, Marlon, my brother.
34:47How are you?
34:48I'm good, sir.
34:48Okay, Marlon, I don't know if it was good afternoon to the officer and if it's out.
34:54I don't know if it was coincidental, but you would have known I'm a person who I've been campaigning for the officers to pass around to the schools on morning and afternoon to prevent the loitering.
35:10Marlon, you know what I observed this afternoon?
35:11I was driving through Faisalabad by the composite school, and there were two police vehicles in the vicinity.
35:18I don't know if it was coincidental or planned, and the street was clear within 10 minutes, Marlon.
35:26So I think that is a good thing that they're doing if they did it intentionally.
35:31The other thing, sir, officer, I would like you to, I don't know what you can do to help all these people smoke and marijuana on the street aimlessly.
35:40And they're pants down by their knee.
35:43I tell you nobody can open up their factory in this country.
35:47Them fellas, these pants down by their knee, we need to get this right in the store, sir.
35:52Make whatever intervention you possibly could to help us.
35:55Yeah, yeah.
35:55Thank you, sir.
35:56Thank you very much, sir.
35:57Yeah, well, thanks for the commendation regarding the issue at the school.
36:03Yeah.
36:03And as he suggested, he don't know if it was intentional or if it was unintentional.
36:08But if so, I'm certain that officers at the Pfizer-BioNTech station, those who are listening in, would be able to convey your sentiments, sir.
36:16And even if it wasn't intentional, I know that it will become something that they would continue to carry out.
36:23Regarding the smoking of marijuana in public, so strictly it is illegal.
36:26And you see, you give some persons an inch and they want to take a yard.
36:30You're telling me about them, boy?
36:32They want to take a yard.
36:33You're telling me about all your, boy?
36:33And, Marlon, this is what we are dealing with.
36:37So, prior, marijuana was illegal, period.
36:40Mm-hmm.
36:41You couldn't smoke marijuana anywhere.
36:42You couldn't even have a marijuana seed.
36:44Mm-hmm.
36:45There was some concession.
36:46Yes.
36:47And persons are allowed now to be in possession of a small quantity of marijuana.
36:52But you cannot smoke it in a public place.
36:54Yeah.
36:54But persons find that, you know, all right, so I could smoke my marijuana anywhere.
36:59All right, but I can tell you that there will be a zero-tolerance approach regarding that type of behavior.
37:05Regardless of whether your pants is by your knee or if it is on your waist, it is illegal.
37:11Yeah?
37:12If all you want to smell like bush, green bush, that's all your business, you know.
37:16You know where I'm coming from?
37:18Smoke, go in your bedroom and smoke your weed.
37:22Yeah.
37:22You know, and make it into a hot box or whatever all it is, call it.
37:25But I find it vexing that, and everybody's so, eh?
37:31Everybody's so.
37:32Yeah.
37:33But then again, it is the message that we got concerning that.
37:38So everybody house, how weed, everybody house, how weed trees.
37:41And then you want to know why, well, why so much young people taking marijuana to school?
37:48Or why so many of them smoking weed?
37:50Why so many of them behaving in a particular way?
37:53Yeah.
37:53Right?
37:54Every adult is entitled to how much?
37:56Not four trees.
37:57Yes.
37:57So if you have five adults in the house, four by five, they have 20.
38:01They have 20 weed trees.
38:03They have real weed.
38:04And then, but you're only allowed to have 30-something grams of weed.
38:08Yeah.
38:09Right?
38:0920 grams.
38:10So we're going to do with them 20 trees.
38:11Yeah.
38:14What do we have for people?
38:19Mary Ann.
38:20Talk to Mary Ann, sir.
38:21Yeah.
38:23Have you seen this child?
38:25Mary Ann Wilson, age 15, last seen in the Mova era.
38:28Anyone with information regarding the whereabouts of Mary Ann Wilson, contact the authority at 996 or the police at 999 or any police station.
38:37Please.
38:38All right.
38:41So we are getting ready to take another call.
38:45This morning we had a long discussion concerning the use of illegal drugs by our young people and how serious it is at the nation's schools.
38:54Imagine, over the past few years, over 21,000 people have been suspended.
39:01And we're hearing about the use of these new drugs as the met and the molly and so on at schools, boy.
39:09Yeah.
39:10And as a parent, you have to study that now.
39:13We have the call.
39:14Caller, good evening.
39:16Caller, good evening.
39:17Caller, good evening.
39:19Caller, good evening.
39:19Caller, good evening.
39:19Caller, good evening.
39:19Caller, good evening.
39:19Caller, good evening, sir.
39:21Yeah, um, okay, I'm calling from Shoder Road, Montcoco.
39:25Yes.
39:25Caller, what is happening, um, with reference to the junction, the Shoder Road-Montcoco junction.
39:34Go ahead.
39:35We haven't, we haven't, yeah, okay, so we haven't a daily nightmare on that junction with vehicles parked up right through from end to end, and there are no parking signs there as well, and these vehicles just will be parked up the right through.
39:52And it's a narrow two-direction road, that's for the road, and, um, when they're all parked up on one lane, one side, we have problems, I mean, there's one lane left for the two,
40:05directions to travel through, and there's an ongoing problem, and here in, here out, same thing, so, I mean, we really, really had enough for this one.
40:17We would like the authorities to deal with us, if they can, if they will, and, um, you know, it's something we're looking forward to.
40:28Firstly, firstly, before you leave, what corporation is responsible for your area?
40:32Have you made representation to them?
40:38Well, we've been to everybody so far in the past, and it's just promising, they will look into it, and it's nothing being done.
40:47But now we have a new administration, we think we'll get somewhere with it, so that's why I'm making up these again for, you know, the assistance, for the Royal Houston Scores.
40:57Thank you very much, sir.
41:00Yeah. Right, so, so, this is a classic case that can be addressed from the community policing lens.
41:06Right.
41:06So, it's not always that we would have this arrest-out-of-a-situation type of approach, dependent on the circumstances that is presenting itself.
41:17So, you're looking at a quality-of-life issue, and largely, persons within the community is contributing to that.
41:23So, this type of issue needs a sit-down and discuss and come to some sort of resolution type of approach.
41:30And for that reason, we will communicate, call out with the persons in charge at the resident police station there,
41:36so that you can have the necessary intervention to have your situation addressed.
41:40All right.
41:41So, we are going to a very short break.
41:42Everybody, we're coming back.
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45:05All right, everybody.
45:10So, welcome back.
45:11Of course, Acting ESP Ishmael Pitt.
45:13He's here to take your call.
45:14So, let's go straight to our lines.
45:16Good evening, caller.
45:18Yes, madam.
45:19Good evening.
45:19Yes, sir.
45:20Good evening.
45:21Good evening, sir.
45:22Thanks.
45:23Caller, go ahead.
45:24I know.
45:25I'm a director of police officer.
45:29Hello?
45:30Yes, sir.
45:31We're hearing you.
45:31You go ahead.
45:32Yes, I'm a retired police officer.
45:35I retired since December of 2023.
45:40And up to present, I have not received any attention of that week.
45:49When I inquire, what I'm hearing is that my file has not been assigned to anyone as yet.
46:02I would like to do, how long do I have to wait for this situation to be addressed?
46:15It is hard to know that you move through stress and have to retire and still end dealing with this type of stress.
46:26All right, Jackie is taking his contact information.
46:32Yeah, of course.
46:34It's not the first time we're hearing of incidents such as that.
46:36It's not the first time at all.
46:38Definitely, it's an indictment on our administrative processes.
46:44It's something that we must not continue to accept.
46:47Because when it is you are supposed to get your money now, and you get your money one, two years down the road,
46:56the value of your money is different to when you were supposed to get it in the first place.
47:02So that's your property that persons are, you know, I don't want to say playing with,
47:06but it's the only word that comes into my mind.
47:07And, you know, that level of hardship between when you have left the organization to then,
47:14you know, someone could only imagine how great it would be.
47:18So, again, from a welfare perspective, it is something that we intend to address robustly.
47:24Even if it means going to a different place in order that persons account differently,
47:29to understand that person's property is their property.
47:32And you have worked all these years, and the least we can do is recognize your efforts
47:38by ensuring that you get your benefits on time.
47:41But I'm just wondering, what is the problem?
47:43Is it a lack of resources?
47:45You just don't have staff?
47:46What is the problem?
47:48Well, that is an excellent question.
47:51I will take zero for that at this point in time.
47:54All right.
47:56Let's take a call.
47:57Caller, please save Officer Pitya.
48:00Good evening.
48:02Hi, good evening.
48:03Yes, good evening.
48:04This is a question to the officer.
48:06I know it's a sensitive question, so I don't know if you'll be able to ask it.
48:12I'm calling it with regard to FQL.
48:16Outstanding FQL.
48:17I have two FQLs.
48:20This is pertaining to FQLs that got stuck in the system in 2021,
48:25and the date we have not heard anything with regard to many updates
48:30with regard to these outstanding FQLs, and who's our food FQLs.
48:39Yeah.
48:40Thank you, Caller.
48:41Well, two things.
48:42We know that there was some issues.
48:48Don't please zero for that.
48:50No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
48:52I can't plead the fifth for that one, man.
48:54Yeah, there were some issues regarding the granting of a firearm user's license.
49:00But let's fast forward to this point in time.
49:02Yes.
49:02We have just had a newly installed commissioner, Mr. Guevara.
49:06And I'm certain that this is an area of policing that falls under his purview
49:12that he's going to be treated with robustly.
49:15And for that reason, we trust that members of the public who are, at this point in time,
49:20expecting to have some type of communication made to them
49:24will be communicated within the shortest possible time.
49:28All right.
49:29Thank you very much.
49:29All right.
49:30Let's return to our lines.
49:31Good evening, Caller.
49:33Yes.
49:33Good evening, gentlemen.
49:34I ventured to the eastern part of Trinidad somewhere in the commuter area
49:40and come there at least 200 and something vehicles, police vehicles.
49:48So, and mind you, some of the standards of those vehicles are quite prevalent.
49:58That is to say, some of the external parts that I've noticed,
50:02the content of the vehicle are still intact.
50:07So, my question to the local officer is that,
50:12is there a restoration, a police restoration program in place,
50:17or should one be put in place in an effort to retrieve some of the value
50:24of those, what we do, what we have, what is deemed derelict vehicles,
50:30to retrieve some of the value and put those vehicles back,
50:33back on the road to serve the people of this country?
50:36Secondly, secondly, I noticed that in the Londonville area,
50:43the Londonville police in particular,
50:47I am not able to count how much patrols they do because I don't ever see them.
50:51I noticed the officers on patrol and the schematics of the patrol
51:00is one that the vehicle is air conditioned, the vehicle is tinted,
51:06and the patrol speed is maybe about 50 or 60 miles per hour,
51:12and not at any point engaging anybody or stop and search
51:17within the general vicinity of the Londonville area.
51:21Yes. All right, Kola, unfortunately, we need to stop there.
51:24We need to go to a very short break,
51:25but the officer will respond to your concerns after.
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53:31All right, everybody, so welcome back.
53:57So, acting ASP Ishmael Pitt,
54:00it's over to you concerning those questions
54:02the gentleman would have asked a short while ago.
54:05Yeah, so his first question was
54:07surrounding the amount of vehicles at...
54:10Komoto.
54:10Komoto, and whether those vehicles,
54:14from his observation,
54:15those that are still salvageable,
54:18or that possess parts that can be utilized elsewhere,
54:22can be utilized elsewhere.
54:24And the straight question is yes.
54:27However, there's a bureaucratic process attached to that.
54:32And if you do not apply that process strictly,
54:37then you may become subject to the laws of Trinidad and Tobago.
54:40So it's not as easy as it may appear that you can just...
54:44In common terms, we deem it cannibalism,
54:46where you can use one vehicle and repair another vehicle.
54:52There are strict guidelines,
54:54and we know with government property,
54:57there's a lot of bureaucracy.
54:59Of course.
54:59But it makes sense.
55:01So the caller is on the right.
55:02I mean, I would think any logical, rational, reasonable individual
55:10looking at that situation would come to the same conclusion,
55:13would come to the same position that this is a remedy
55:16that can be applied towards cheating with vehicles
55:20and sometimes even the shortage of vehicles
55:22in order to keep us mobile, longer, and more widespread.
55:29My point on that is that the last time I was up there,
55:33it was years ago.
55:35And I just find that in 2025,
55:38we should not be having that conversation.
55:41Totally agree.
55:41I understand the red tape.
55:42I understand accountability and transparency.
55:44I understand all of that.
55:46But it can't be that those vehicles have been there for
55:49I don't know how many years.
55:51I think the last time I was up there was maybe three or four years.
55:53Yeah.
55:54Right?
55:54So why are we still having that conversation?
55:56Sure, sure.
55:57Right?
55:57Well, I think we have good news.
55:59We have a Minister of Homeland Security
56:02who understands the circumstances of the Toronto Public Police Service
56:06and based on that, we are hopeful that these lines
56:09can be crossed with the necessary governmental intervention,
56:16so to speak.
56:16You're still on honeymoon.
56:18Go ahead.
56:18Go ahead.
56:19You're still on honeymoon.
56:20Go ahead.
56:21Go ahead, sir.
56:22Just for about two more minutes, huh?
56:23Sure, sure.
56:23The other question quickly was regarding, or I think it was more or less a comment regarding,
56:28the caller indicated that he was not seeing patrols in the Longdonville Station District.
56:33However, he did go on to say that he's observing that the police vehicles,
56:38they have their glass up and probably...
56:39They're very relaxed.
56:40They're very relaxed.
56:41A very relaxed patrol.
56:42So, Ancola, I'm not bashing you, but I'm just wondering how, in the absence of the patrols,
56:48you were able to make that observation.
56:50He's in a lock-up in air condition.
56:51Right?
56:52But nonetheless, you have sent a message, and for that reason,
56:54we will communicate with the officers there in order to, you know, address if there's a shortcoming,
57:02address the shortcoming.
57:03If not, probably to engage persons more so that they can feel the presence of the police, so to speak.
57:09Yeah.
57:10Yeah.
57:10Obviously, I have about one minute, huh?
57:13Yeah.
57:14Is that your one minute?
57:15Is that my one minute?
57:16Yeah, is that your one minute?
57:17What are you saying?
57:18No, I know.
57:18Be careful what you say.
57:19I know.
57:20Be careful what you say.
57:21Hold on, hold on, hold on.
57:22Be careful what you say, though.
57:24This is not the time for that.
57:25Just incidentally, we are going to the election of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Social and Welfare Association.
57:31They are upon us.
57:33Yes.
57:33That's going to be happening on Monday coming.
57:35Yes.
57:35Right?
57:36You are a candidate, a presidential candidate in it.
57:39Yeah.
57:40But we're going to talk about that in the morning.
57:42Right?
57:43So, take some time and say what you want to say before we go.
57:47We leave.
57:47Well, really and truly, I did not want to use this platform in order to advance.
57:52So, I just touched on it.
57:53Because I know, Marlon, there are persons out there in the policing populations.
57:57And some of my opponents, if we would call it that, they would see this as probably an unfair advantage.
58:04And that, you know, look, Pitt campaigning and be on the team because he wants to advance himself and so on and so forth.
58:09But I'm glad that you raise it and I'm inclined to respond.
58:12Yeah.
58:12So, what I would say, persons come out, you know, be wise in choosing the persons who you will be seeking to manage the business of the association for the next three years.
58:21All right.
58:21We'll be right back here tomorrow at six o'clock.
58:23At least, I'm going to be here at six o'clock.
58:25And you can join me at six o'clock in the morning.
58:27Officer Pitt is going to be there too.
58:28All right?
58:28So, please join us then.
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