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02:51And a very special good evening, Trinidad and Tobago,
03:07and the rest of the world.
03:08I'm Arlon Hopkinson.
03:09As always, welcome to Beyond the Tape.
03:11I hope that you had a good night and a good day,
03:14and that you're safe and sound with us this evening,
03:17so we want you to spend the rest of the evening with us, all right?
03:20So with me today, my co-host, Acting Sergeant Zaheer Ali.
03:26Acting Sergeant, congratulations.
03:29Yeah?
03:31I don't know if you say welcome.
03:32You're a part of the family now.
03:33How do I tell someone welcome?
03:35Thank you very much for coming today.
03:37Well, Marlon, good evening to you.
03:38And, you know, it's so interesting that, you know,
03:41when you use the word welcome,
03:42I was wondering for a moment, you know...
03:43Whether you should welcome me?
03:45Yeah, you know, I was just wondering, you know,
03:46but, you know, it's indeed a pleasure, Marlon,
03:48to share this platform with you again.
03:50And, you know, it brought back a lot of memories.
03:52And, you know, I must admit that publicly.
03:54And, you know, perhaps, you know, one person is missing.
03:56Unfortunately, you know, he is under state duties.
04:00But it's interesting and a pleasure to be here, as always.
04:04To Jackie and our family and Beyond the Tape,
04:06my law enforcement colleagues,
04:08and most importantly, Marlon,
04:10the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago.
04:11So, you know, I look forward to engage, you know,
04:15every Wednesday, you know, to share their perspective
04:17and, you know, to share information.
04:18But as your best I can assist as we go along this afternoon.
04:21All right.
04:22Thank you very much, Officer.
04:23Well, here's what, everybody.
04:24So we do have an update for you.
04:26You remember yesterday we spoke about the detainees
04:30who have escaped.
04:32Well, from what the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service
04:34is saying this evening is that
04:37following intelligence received,
04:39officers cordoned off the farm or farm eras
04:42between Arepa Road to the west
04:44and Smithfield to the east.
04:45Officers conducted a comprehensive search
04:47across several abandoned houses and garden plots.
04:50This led to the successful incident-free recapture
04:53of three escapees.
04:55All right.
04:56So, roll call.
04:57Christian Jose Rivero Paradis, 28 years.
05:02Honiton Jesus Carreno, 38 years.
05:06And Samuel Gonzalez, 24 years of age.
05:10Now, the Commissioner of Police,
05:11Alistair Rivero, has expressed his gratitude
05:15to members of the public who responded
05:17to the clarion call to assist law enforcement
05:20in locating the escapees.
05:22He says,
05:22I want to extend heartfelt thanks to the public
05:25for their cooperation and vigilance.
05:27He says,
05:28Your timely information and support
05:30were instrumental in our swift recapture
05:32of the escapees.
05:33He says,
05:34This is a clear example of how strong
05:36community police collaboration leads
05:38to meaningful outcomes in public safety.
05:41The Commissioner also commended
05:43the excellent work and dedication
05:44of all the officers involved
05:45in the speedy recapture of the escapees.
05:48All right.
05:48So, the TTPS continues to work closely
05:50with all the relevant agencies
05:52and the ongoing efforts
05:53to locate the remaining escapees.
05:56So, anyone with information
05:56is urged to contact the police
05:58immediately via 999-555
06:02or report anonymously
06:03through Crime Stoppers
06:05at 800-TIPS.
06:07And, Officer,
06:07this is really a victory,
06:09not only for the police,
06:11but for the community, too.
06:12And I want to totally agree with you,
06:14Marlon.
06:14You know, once you're hearing,
06:16and the way the Commissioner
06:17has spoken on that press release,
06:18once you are hearing the emphasis
06:20on the importance of the community
06:22partnership and engagement,
06:24I think that that's an all-win situation.
06:25And I, myself,
06:26would like to join,
06:27you know,
06:28and, you know,
06:28congratulate the citizens of Trinidad
06:30and Tobago
06:30for the prompt response
06:32for the reference to these individuals,
06:34you know,
06:35just moments ago,
06:36some were at large,
06:37but now they are back
06:38into the care of the state.
06:41And, you know,
06:41hats off to the police officers
06:42who, again,
06:44continuing to do their best
06:46for safety and security.
06:47But, Marlon,
06:48may I just indicate
06:49that when we are seeing
06:51foreign nationals,
06:53you know,
06:53my advice this afternoon
06:55will be
06:55if the opportunity arise
06:57for us to deal
06:59with these issues
07:00in relation to foreign nationals
07:01speedily
07:02in our courts
07:02of Trinidad and Tobago,
07:04I think that the best interest
07:05of all parties,
07:06you don't have foreign nationals
07:07sitting in a remand center,
07:11especially if they are
07:11in a situation where,
07:12let's say,
07:13there were immigration issues
07:14and they were pending
07:15deportation and so forth,
07:16unless they are
07:17ongoing civil proceedings
07:18regarding their status
07:21in Trinidad and Tobago.
07:22We should at least be trying
07:23to act speedily
07:25so that we are not burdened
07:27by having to, you know,
07:28be looking after these persons
07:29if there's a situation
07:31where they can be deported
07:32back to their mainland.
07:34So, it's something
07:34I want to see that,
07:35yes, excellent work
07:36in terms of the recapturing
07:38of the individuals,
07:38but the judicial system,
07:41it's important for that process
07:42to be effectively engaged
07:45to be able to treat
07:45these individuals.
07:46Yeah.
07:47All right, so we're moving on.
07:48We do have another video
07:49for you,
07:50and it's one
07:51concerning fire officers
07:52on the scene
07:53of an RTA
07:54in the Sister Isle,
07:56Lambeau area,
07:57earlier today.
08:00All right,
08:01from what we're seeing there,
08:02it would seem that
08:03a few vehicles
08:04are involved.
08:05It seems to be
08:06a serious accident,
08:07and I say that
08:08because of the damage
08:09that I'm seeing
08:09to vehicles.
08:10again, sir,
08:12I'm sure,
08:13well,
08:13we don't have
08:14all of the details
08:15concerning what
08:15would have caused this,
08:17but again,
08:18I think it is
08:19a call to members
08:21of the public
08:21to be careful,
08:24use some discretion,
08:25moderation,
08:26again,
08:27because,
08:27I mean,
08:28what we're seeing here,
08:29it seems to be
08:31very, very serious.
08:33Well,
08:34Marlon,
08:34you know,
08:35in previous
08:35programs,
08:37you know,
08:38as it relates
08:38to road traffic accidents,
08:40you know,
08:40in recent times,
08:43we have heard
08:43the Honorable Prime Minister
08:44making strong calls
08:46to enforce
08:48the rule of law
08:48in other circumstances,
08:50for example,
08:51in relation to dealing
08:51with school violence.
08:53In previous programs,
08:56I clearly made
08:56a call,
08:57Marlon,
08:58to ensure
09:01that when we are
09:02looking at road traffic accidents,
09:04that the,
09:05what currently exists
09:06in terms of
09:07that demerit point system,
09:09while it has
09:09its advantages,
09:11I think the time
09:12has come for
09:12persons who are
09:13driving dangerously
09:15without due care
09:16and attention
09:16on the nation's road,
09:18we create
09:18an arrestable offense
09:20so that
09:21it's no longer
09:22a situation
09:22where you're looking
09:23to say,
09:24well, okay,
09:24you have 10 points
09:26or 14 points
09:26and then I'm looking
09:27to proceed
09:27to have a suspension
09:28of the driver's permit
09:29because all it takes
09:30is one dangerous
09:32piece of driving
09:33that can cause
09:34loss to life.
09:35So, you know,
09:36it's a call
09:37that I've been making
09:38advocating for
09:39review of the
09:40motor vehicle
09:41and road traffic act
09:41to ensure that
09:42these offenses
09:43are made arrestable.
09:44So, you,
09:45could you imagine
09:46someone is flying
09:46down the highway
09:47at a high rate of speed?
09:48This should not be
09:49a situation
09:50where if you intercept,
09:51you will see
09:51a fixed penalty notice
09:52that attracts a point.
09:53This should be
09:54an immediate
09:54arrestable offense
09:55charged and placed
09:56before the courts
09:57of Trinidad and Tobago.
09:58So, I think that
09:58when we are seeing
09:59these sort of
10:00road traffic accidents
10:02and the prevalence
10:03of it,
10:03I think that we need
10:04to take another step
10:05as it exists,
10:06Mark, Marlon,
10:07and please forgive me
10:09over the period of time,
10:10but Marlon,
10:10Mark, you know,
10:11the same M.
10:12You know,
10:12probably I use it.
10:13Actually, my second name
10:14is Mark.
10:14Well, you know,
10:15maybe I should use
10:16the double M,
10:16you know.
10:17But having said that,
10:19Marlon,
10:19when you look at
10:20the motor vehicle
10:20and road traffic act,
10:21it is very clear
10:22that in a situation
10:23where the driver
10:24fails to give
10:25name and address
10:25is when the power
10:26of arrest kicks in.
10:27But I'm making
10:28a statement where
10:29just by your
10:30dangerous driving,
10:32whether you give
10:32your name and address
10:33at all,
10:34the issue should be
10:36your conduct
10:37should be attracting
10:39an arrestable offense.
10:40And I want to make
10:40that abundantly clear
10:41this afternoon
10:42and hope that
10:42the decision makers
10:43listen and move swiftly
10:45to amend the motor vehicle
10:46and road traffic act.
10:47Well, I hope so too
10:48because I know
10:49that the discussion
10:49has been
10:50that there has to be
10:52a review.
10:53Well, in the past,
10:54there was talk
10:55about a review
10:55of the merit point system.
10:57This prime minister
10:57has said,
10:58well, here's what.
10:59This has not worked
11:00very well at all
11:01and I think that the plan
11:02is to totally
11:04do away with it.
11:06But I think that
11:07there has to be
11:08a greater conversation
11:09as, well,
11:10if you are doing
11:11away with it,
11:12what now?
11:13Because I don't know
11:15about you all,
11:16but I think I understand
11:17you all very well
11:18in that I get back
11:20to the point
11:21when the last
11:23administration
11:24had said,
11:24well, here's what.
11:25We are going to enforce
11:26the speed limit
11:27and you would have seen
11:29the care
11:31that people were taking
11:32in driving
11:33and driving
11:34at a very,
11:34very slow speed.
11:36Yes.
11:36So, my point is
11:38there have to be
11:39repercussions.
11:41Yes.
11:41So, I want to
11:42concur
11:43and support
11:44what you are suggesting
11:45here this evening.
11:47And, you know,
11:49but I understand
11:50the thing in Trinidad
11:51and Tobago
11:52that sometimes
11:53you know,
11:55it's very,
11:57people are very
11:57hesitant
11:58to enforce
11:59what may be
12:01viewed as
12:01punitive measures.
12:03Yeah?
12:03But measures are needed.
12:05Well, Marlon,
12:06you couldn't put it
12:06better.
12:07In terms of
12:07when you're speaking
12:08about that retributive
12:09approach
12:10and as you indicated
12:11the punitive,
12:12I think that
12:12if you are seeing
12:13the prevalence
12:13of road traffic accidents,
12:14I think that
12:16you know,
12:16when you look at
12:17the merit point system
12:18and you made mention
12:19it a while ago,
12:20we should be looking
12:20to strengthen.
12:22So, it's not about
12:23doing a way
12:24to say that nothing
12:24should replace it.
12:26Yes.
12:27What we are looking
12:27for strengthening
12:28because it appears
12:29that if you have
12:29the merit point system,
12:30maybe it takes
12:31a longer period
12:32in which to deal
12:33with a driver
12:34who is not conscious
12:35or driving
12:36without due care
12:37and attention
12:37and at every single
12:38hour or day
12:40as the case may be,
12:40that driver is continuing
12:41to replace a person's life
12:42in danger
12:44by virtue of his or her conduct.
12:45So, I think that
12:46the strengthening
12:46of the legislation,
12:48I want to just
12:49re-emphasize that,
12:50but well put on your end.
12:51All right.
12:52Thank you very much.
12:52Let's go to Jamaica now.
12:54We have this for you.
13:00All right.
13:02Yes.
13:02So, it would seem
13:03that the perpetrator
13:06of this act
13:07is a student.
13:07Of course,
13:08we don't know
13:08what would have
13:09contributed to this,
13:10but look at it again.
13:12Yeah.
13:13So, when you think
13:14that sometimes
13:15we do have problems
13:16with the youth
13:16in Trinidad and Tobago,
13:18and of course,
13:19that has been
13:20a great debate,
13:22a discussion
13:22over the past few days
13:24about the sometimes
13:26delinquent behavior
13:27that our young people
13:28are involving themselves in.
13:30Yes.
13:30And the debate is
13:31what to do with them.
13:32Of course,
13:33the prime minister
13:33have said,
13:34well,
13:34in certain cases,
13:35we are going to expel them.
13:37They are going to have
13:37to face the court.
13:39Some people are saying,
13:40well, here's what.
13:40Let's step back
13:41a little bit
13:42because we must not
13:43treat them like criminals
13:44and, you know,
13:45they would like
13:45a softer approach.
13:46So, I guess the debate
13:48is good
13:49and we'll see
13:49what happens
13:50at the end of the day.
13:51But, again,
13:52this is happening
13:52all over the place.
13:54Well, Marlon,
13:54you know,
13:55when we look at
13:56the issue of school violence
13:57and, you know,
13:57just looking at that footage
14:00that footage
14:01in relation to
14:03and you're
14:04communicating
14:04in your foreign jurisdiction,
14:06you know,
14:06that's coming back home,
14:07you know,
14:07to Trinidad and Tobago.
14:08The issue of school violence
14:09and I saw
14:10just a while ago
14:11some actions
14:12were taken
14:13in the Southern Division
14:15regarding the
14:16school children
14:18who were involved
14:18in the assault
14:19in the,
14:20I think it's
14:21the Holy Faith Convent
14:22in Cuba
14:23and I saw
14:24five persons
14:24based on my reading
14:26were charged
14:28and now it's
14:29before the courts
14:29of Trinidad and Tobago.
14:30And when you are
14:33seeing a society
14:34that is plagued
14:35with violence,
14:36Marlon,
14:37we cannot be naive
14:38where violence
14:41is finding itself
14:42within the school system.
14:44And I'll come to
14:44a discussion
14:45in a short while
14:46in relation to
14:46the Honorable Minister
14:47of Homeland Security
14:48making some very
14:49revealing statements
14:50in the Parliament
14:51as it relates to
14:52the use of
14:54dangerous drugs
14:55by school children.
14:56Metamphetamine.
14:57Yes.
14:57But to get back
14:58to the situation
14:58of the violence
14:59in terms of the assaults,
15:01when you have a society
15:01that is plagued
15:02with violence,
15:03it will naturally
15:05find itself
15:05into the school system
15:06if we are not vigilant
15:07and if we are not careful.
15:09And when you are seeing
15:11the degree of injuries
15:15that these victims
15:16sustain,
15:16it is very frightening
15:17and I am in full agreement
15:20to enforce the law
15:22with reference
15:22to persons and children
15:23who may be at the age
15:25to attract criminal liability
15:26to place them
15:27before the courts
15:28to account for the action.
15:29But this is the important part
15:30I want to bring into
15:31the equation,
15:32Amalan,
15:33that the Children's Act
15:35by arresting
15:37and if there is evidence
15:38and charge
15:38and placed before the court
15:39is just the first step.
15:42What I would like to see
15:43is that the full length
15:44and breadth
15:44of the Children's Act
15:45is employed
15:46to ensure
15:48that the parents,
15:50guardian,
15:51or persons with responsibility
15:52for the children
15:53who are charged
15:55and placed before the court
15:55now is brought before the court
15:58to be able to answer
15:59as to the care and supervision
16:01that they were exhibiting
16:03with reference to those children.
16:04So what you are getting,
16:06you are getting the opportunity
16:07to go beyond the child,
16:10look at the parents,
16:11guardian,
16:11and even the home
16:12so that the necessary intervention
16:14can be made
16:15to ensure that there is
16:16proper rehabilitation,
16:18to ensure that that child
16:19in the quickest time,
16:21if I should say that,
16:22return to society
16:23and into the education system.
16:25Yeah, and that's a good point.
16:28Rehabilitation, yeah?
16:29Because you just can't
16:31take punitive action
16:33against individuals
16:34and then throw them
16:35on the garbage heap, eh?
16:36Yes.
16:36Right?
16:36Because I think that is going
16:38to create a greater problem
16:39in Trinidad and Tobago.
16:41And just to conjure that,
16:42Marlon,
16:42it's important for us
16:43to also look at
16:44our international community.
16:45And you know this
16:46better than I.
16:47When we are dealing
16:47with children,
16:48and I saw recently
16:49on your program,
16:50the morning edition,
16:51which I pay
16:51very close attention to,
16:52I saw that you had
16:54a former independent senator.
16:56Yes.
16:56And what was important
16:58is that when you are
16:58dealing with children,
17:00it's important
17:00that you're always looking
17:02at what's in the best
17:03interest of the child.
17:05So this situation,
17:06by a child being charged
17:07and placed before the court,
17:08the first impression,
17:09people may say,
17:09okay, maybe it's harsh.
17:11But this is the avenue,
17:13and I've advocated
17:13very heavy for this,
17:14this is the avenue
17:15that you are going to now
17:16get the opportunity
17:17to fully ventilate.
17:19Exactly.
17:20And you know we're talking
17:21about symptoms and cause?
17:22Yes.
17:22This is the opportunity
17:23for it.
17:23All right.
17:24Thank you very much,
17:24officer.
17:25All right, everybody,
17:26we must go to a very
17:26short break.
17:27We are coming back.
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20:03Police Service.
20:04All right,
20:16so I'm here with Sergeant Zaheer Ali today, right?
20:19You know,
20:19he's here every Wednesday.
20:20I have been missing for a while,
20:23so I'm back for a little while, right?
20:24So he's the senior man on the program today.
20:27All right,
20:28so here's what.
20:28But here's what.
20:29Let's remind you of our numbers,
20:30all right,
20:30so 623-1711.
20:32The extensions are 1996 and 1997.
20:35I know that you wanted to make a point
20:37on what the Homeland Security Minister
20:39had said in the Parliament recently
20:41concerning drugs.
20:42Thank you very much, Marlon.
20:44Marlon,
20:44I think it's important
20:45with the topic that we just discussed
20:46in terms of school violence.
20:47Yeah.
20:48It was very interesting
20:49to see the Honorable Minister
20:51of Homeland Security in Parliament.
20:53You know,
20:53he made some revealing statements
20:54with reference to,
20:55based on his information and intelligence,
20:57that children,
20:58if not consuming,
21:01are exposed
21:01to the dangerous drug
21:03and, you know,
21:04what we know as ecstasy.
21:06It has the
21:07formal name to it,
21:10and I think you are very familiar
21:11with the formal name,
21:12but I leave it for ecstasy
21:13so that the general public
21:15will have an understanding
21:16on indication
21:16as to what we are speaking about.
21:18And Marlon,
21:19I want to just look
21:20at the Children's Act,
21:21which has been in the forefront
21:22in the last couple of hours.
21:24Yeah.
21:24And the charges that we spoke about.
21:25And if you look
21:26at the Children's Act,
21:27and for the parents,
21:28guardian,
21:29and even persons
21:29who may be inclined
21:30to expose a child
21:33to a dangerous drug,
21:36and let me stress on this part,
21:37or a substance
21:39that has a similar effect,
21:42and there's some importance
21:42with that.
21:43So it's not,
21:44the law has been couched
21:45where children are concerned
21:46in a very sensitive context.
21:49So any person
21:50who exposes a child
21:52to a dangerous drug,
21:53and we know the dangerous drug,
21:55for example,
21:55the cocaine,
21:56the cannabis,
21:58the morphine,
21:59the ecstasy,
22:00the ketamine,
22:02the molly,
22:03that's correct.
22:04But it goes further
22:05to say,
22:05or a substance
22:06that has a similar effect
22:08commits a criminal offense
22:11under the Children's Act.
22:12And persons who may be
22:13administering
22:14or giving a child,
22:15and in this case,
22:16without the direction
22:18of a medical practitioner,
22:20a dangerous drug
22:21or a substance
22:21of having a similar effect,
22:23also can be caught
22:24with any law
22:25in terms of committing
22:25a criminal offense.
22:26And those who may be
22:27using children, Marlon,
22:29as couriers
22:29or to sell
22:30or to deliver.
22:31Now, why is this important?
22:32Based on what the minister said.
22:35Sometime ago, Marlon,
22:36I had a discussion
22:37with the President of Tutor.
22:38Officer, here's what.
22:38Sorry.
22:39Let's please take a call
22:40and we'll get back to your point.
22:41Sure.
22:41Good evening, caller.
22:43Good evening.
22:44Good evening.
22:46Marlon?
22:47Yes.
22:48How you going?
22:50You're good?
22:53Yes.
22:54Officer, Ali, good evening.
22:55Good evening, sir.
22:56Oh, three points?
22:57Three points are you, girl?
22:58I know you were saying
22:59I said I don't want that.
23:01That's why I don't call anymore.
23:03You's not three points are you?
23:04You have to be at least
23:05six points now?
23:07Yeah?
23:08How you going?
23:08You okay?
23:10Yes.
23:10All right, all right.
23:11Get to your points.
23:12Go ahead.
23:12Ali, concerning what is taking place,
23:15you know, concerning the commissioner,
23:17you know, that they're doing some investigation.
23:20But I realize she's still working.
23:23But I remember when they did it to the commissioner,
23:26other commissioner,
23:27I don't think she worked.
23:28Someone,
23:29if there's one rule for one,
23:30or if you have to,
23:32something special in order for you to be working
23:34or not working.
23:35That's my first point.
23:36The second point,
23:37and concerning the Venezuelans,
23:38now how they get a chance
23:40to make a hole in the roof
23:42so nobody saw them,
23:44or they probably were glad
23:45they were doing something like this,
23:46nobody saw them
23:48making that hole
23:49in order for them to get away
23:50and know that they will get the other two soon
23:54unless they have gone back to Venezuela.
23:57Marlon,
23:58you saw where in the Moscow airport,
24:01a Belarusian Zionist,
24:03take a little child
24:04and just bring that child in the ground.
24:05Any one of you saw that?
24:07And the child is in a coma now,
24:09you know?
24:10Just bring the child in the ground
24:13like if he's going mad, you know?
24:14Anyway,
24:15all the best,
24:15all of you.
24:16Marlon, be safe.
24:17Officer, be safe.
24:18Mr. Jackie, be safe.
24:19Three points.
24:19It's good to hear from you, Marlon.
24:21It's very good to hear from you.
24:22Go ahead, officer.
24:22Yeah, thank you very much, Kola,
24:24for your three submissions.
24:25So, Marlon,
24:26before I deal with the three submissions,
24:27just to complete,
24:29so we're at the point where
24:30the third aspect of a person
24:32who may be giving a child
24:33or treating a child as a courier
24:34or to sell or distribute or deliver.
24:37And it was important
24:38because the narcotics,
24:40based on the information and intelligence,
24:42are ending up in the school system.
24:44Someone,
24:45some adult is responsible
24:47for either being in possession
24:48and not taking the,
24:50and in a case where you have
24:51the decriminalization of cannabis,
24:53just as that drug,
24:54you know,
24:55even if you're decriminalizing
24:56the dangerous drug,
24:58and we have spoken about it,
24:59you and other persons,
25:00there must be a proper regulation
25:03of persons
25:04because you are giving them
25:05a dangerous drug
25:06by decriminalizing,
25:09but you have to also pay attention
25:10to whether, in fact,
25:11that drug,
25:12or drugs as the case may be,
25:13is being exposed to a child
25:15or the child has access
25:17and then it ends up
25:18in the school system
25:19for whatever ills
25:21that may result from it.
25:22So, I think it's important
25:23to support the Honorable Minister
25:25with the Children's Act,
25:27the law,
25:27so that the citizenry
25:28of Trinidad and Tobago
25:28can be properly guided
25:29because you do not want
25:31to be in a situation,
25:32Marlon,
25:32where you execute a search warrant,
25:34you find dangerous drugs,
25:36and when you look,
25:36there's children who are playing
25:37around the dangerous drug.
25:39That is exposing a child
25:40to a dangerous drug.
25:41So, be warned,
25:42citizens of Trinidad and Tobago,
25:44the law will be enforced,
25:46it will be applied.
25:46And just quickly to the caller,
25:48that first issue in relation
25:49to the investigation
25:51that is ongoing,
25:52you know,
25:53I want to remain consistently
25:54with the commissioner's statement
25:55when they spoke about
25:57whether, in fact,
25:58a decision to send
25:59an administrative leave
26:00or even suspension,
26:02that is clearly within
26:04the remit
26:05of the Police Service Commission
26:06as to that particular decision.
26:09So, I don't want to say
26:10any more on that.
26:10It's subject to inquiry
26:11and due process.
26:12And the issue with the Venezuelans
26:16allegedly making,
26:18I should say,
26:20in this case,
26:21a pathway
26:21with the escape route.
26:23Yeah.
26:24I think that that calls
26:25for, you know,
26:26the authorities,
26:28the prison authorities
26:28to be more vigilant
26:30in their daily visits
26:32than to ensure
26:32that these things
26:33are not being carved out
26:34in lieu of an escape.
26:37And, well,
26:37on the last point
26:38that she made
26:40was with reference
26:42to the child,
26:44you know,
26:45and that is self-explanatory.
26:46But thank you very much,
26:47Kola,
26:47for your points.
26:48Jackie,
26:48give me some guidance here.
26:50All right.
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30:05All right, everybody.
30:08So, welcome back.
30:09So, let's return to our lines.
30:11Good evening, caller.
30:12Good evening, Marlon.
30:14Good evening.
30:14Good evening, sergeant.
30:16Good evening to you, sir.
30:17Good evening.
30:18So, this question
30:19is for the legal mind.
30:20It has to do with search warrant.
30:22So, I believe search warrants
30:24are specific, right?
30:26They may have an item
30:27on your search warrant
30:27that you're going to look for.
30:30But my question is,
30:32if while you're executing
30:33your search warrant,
30:34you find something else
30:36which is illegal,
30:38maybe you went to look
30:39for arms or ammunition
30:40but you found drugs
30:41or you found items,
30:42stolen items,
30:44what does the search warrant
30:45cover that as well?
30:46How would the police operate
30:48in that circumstance
30:50so the perpetrator,
30:52the persons who,
30:54who the suspect
30:54of homing the church
30:55would escape?
30:57Thank you very much, caller.
31:01And very important question, Marlon.
31:03Marlon.
31:07While a search warrant
31:08may be geared towards
31:09dangerous drugs,
31:12if you enter a home
31:13and you see a firearm
31:15that creates a contravention
31:18of the Firearms Act,
31:20the law gives you the power
31:23because it's a contravention
31:25of the criminal law
31:26to take possession
31:27of that firearm
31:28because it now forms evidence
31:29of another offense.
31:31So really the search warrant,
31:33the spirit and intent
31:33of a search warrant
31:34when it's granted
31:35is to ensure that
31:36a judicial officer
31:38or authority
31:38is satisfied
31:39that the police
31:41or law enforcement
31:41has sufficient justification
31:43to enter a person's premises
31:46because you know
31:46a person has an enjoyment
31:47in their property.
31:48So the judicial officer
31:49has to balance that equation
31:50but the warrant
31:51is generally
31:52for the entry
31:53and search
31:53for what is pleaded
31:55on the warrant.
31:55But if there's
31:56a contravention
31:56of the criminal law
31:59and I just give an example
32:00where you're going
32:00for dangerous drugs
32:01and you see a firearm
32:02that contravences
32:03the Firearms Act,
32:03you are in power
32:05to take possession
32:06of that firearm
32:06because it now forms evidence
32:09of another investigation
32:10in relation to
32:10a possession of a firearm.
32:11And I could even
32:12expound on that.
32:14The fact that you've seen
32:15a firearm in a home,
32:16what are the public safety
32:18requirements
32:19to be able to make sure
32:20that that does not
32:21get into the hands
32:22or remain in the hands
32:23of unauthorized persons?
32:25So an excellent question,
32:27Kola.
32:29You know, Marlon,
32:30there are times,
32:31and I'm going to be naïve here,
32:32that sometimes
32:32law enforcement
32:34sometimes want to stretch
32:35out a search warrant.
32:36Stretch it to the extent
32:37that you have
32:38particular pleadings,
32:39you are going for
32:40particular items.
32:41And while I use things
32:43that may have contravened
32:43the criminal law,
32:44let's say, for example,
32:45you had a pleading
32:46that you are investigating
32:47and looking for
32:48specific items of evidence,
32:51but you would not foresee
32:52that maybe another item
32:55that you didn't place
32:56on the warrant
32:56but is relevant
32:57to what you're investigating,
32:58the law also gives you
33:00that power to be able
33:01to take possession
33:02of that item
33:02because when you come back
33:03under the present
33:04legal construct,
33:05you have to now file
33:06a return to the court
33:08indicating that the warrant
33:09was executed
33:10and these are the items
33:11that were found.
33:13And you now can indicate
33:14that while that item
33:15was not on the search warrant,
33:17you are pleading it
33:18before a judicial officer
33:19who now will basically direct
33:22whether you are justified
33:23in retaining it
33:24or whether it needs
33:25to be returned
33:25to the owner.
33:27So, a very, very important
33:29question that was asked
33:29and I hope that I give
33:30some clarity to you.
33:32I have one minute.
33:33Sure.
33:34And I still want you
33:35to speak to the issue
33:36of warrants
33:37because there are
33:39some misconceptions
33:41about the warrant
33:43and one main misconception
33:45is that it is the police
33:48that prepares
33:50or prepares
33:51the warrant
33:53and it is done
33:56solely by them.
33:58Well, Marlon,
34:00the application
34:01for a search warrant,
34:02it requires
34:04making a complaint
34:06and you have
34:08a draft search warrant.
34:09So, in other words,
34:10you basically have
34:11two documents
34:12in the application.
34:13but the application
34:15now is placed
34:16before a judicial officer
34:17who now will look
34:18at their pleadings
34:19to see whether
34:20the pleadings
34:21justify the issuance
34:23of the search warrant
34:24to enter the premises.
34:25So, although the law enforcement
34:26is doing the drafting
34:27and making the application,
34:30the approval resides solely
34:31with the judicial officer.
34:33But there are checks
34:34and balances.
34:34That's the point
34:35I want to make.
34:36And, Marlon,
34:36when you talk about
34:37checks and balances,
34:38just recently,
34:39in 2023,
34:40if I recall,
34:41the administration
34:42of Justice Indictable
34:43Proceedings Act
34:44squarely took
34:46search warrants
34:47to another level
34:48where masters
34:49of the High Court
34:50have been called upon
34:51as the authority
34:53to be able to grant
34:53search warrants.
34:55Recently,
34:55you would have seen
34:56the Honorable Minister
34:56of Justice,
34:59Mr. Devish Maraj,
35:00made some public
35:01pronouncements
35:02as to looking at
35:03some challenges
35:04with reference to JIPA.
35:05And one of the issues
35:06that came up
35:06is that said issue
35:07in terms of search warrants
35:08where it is now pitched
35:09at a master's level
35:10and the argument
35:11is whether it should
35:12now come back down
35:13to the level
35:14of a justice of the peace.
35:15Now, the argument is
35:16without prejudice
35:17to the justice of the peace,
35:18they are not trained
35:19legally.
35:20So to balance
35:21the individual right
35:23with the state right
35:24to investigate,
35:24that is a balance
35:26that has to be met.
35:27So they believe
35:28that the trained mind,
35:29the master and above,
35:31even a magistrate,
35:32will be in the best position
35:33to weigh
35:33where the balance
35:34of interest lies
35:35in relation to
35:36the enjoyment
35:36of the person's property
35:37but giving the police
35:39sufficient authority
35:39to investigate
35:40any public interest.
35:42All right,
35:42let's head to San Juan now
35:43for the voice
35:44of the people.
35:45So I just wanted to get
36:14your impressions
36:15about school violence
36:17and bullying
36:17as it is happening now
36:18in schools
36:19across Trinidad and Tulego.
36:21Well, the rumors
36:22that I've been hearing
36:23about when school kids
36:25getting suspended
36:26and stuff like that
36:27for the school violence,
36:28I think,
36:30personally,
36:31in my opinion,
36:32I think that
36:32it shows like
36:34a better example
36:35because things
36:37like how it used
36:38to be before
36:39where you used
36:39to get disciplined
36:40and stuff like that
36:41it's just like
36:42getting a little
36:43out of hand
36:44and sometimes
36:45it might not
36:46be the child itself,
36:47it depends on
36:48the type of household
36:49they're into
36:50as well.
36:51So that is just,
36:53you know,
36:53that character
36:54they just come out
36:55at school
36:55where you're not
36:56supposed to
36:57at school
36:58is a place to learn
36:59you know,
37:00have fun,
37:01creativity
37:02and stuff like that
37:03but with this
37:04fighting thing
37:05and people
37:06kids getting injured
37:07and you have to tell
37:08it's just too much.
37:10Literally,
37:10just too much.
37:11What do you think
37:11can be done
37:12to curb
37:12that kind of
37:13behavior in schools?
37:16They need
37:17to bring back
37:18discipline for sure.
37:20They need to bring
37:21back discipline
37:21and start like
37:22calling the students
37:24parents to school
37:26to handle the situation
37:27instead of like
37:28doing it on their own
37:29because there are
37:30some teachers
37:31who that
37:32there is no
37:32what is going on
37:34and they don't
37:35necessarily speak up
37:36due to like
37:37you know,
37:37fear from the
37:39children itself.
37:41So they need
37:41to start bringing
37:42back like
37:42parents to school
37:43and stuff
37:44to speak about
37:45the problem
37:45and to address it
37:46so it can have
37:47more peace
37:48amongst one another
37:49and like
37:50peace amongst
37:51the children
37:51in school.
37:52Would you
37:52you talk about
37:53parents,
37:54would you
37:54blame the parents
37:55for the behavior
37:56of the children
37:57in this instance?
37:59I mean
37:59not all the time
38:02but sometimes
38:03yes
38:03because not
38:05not every child
38:06will speak about
38:07the household
38:07that they're
38:08coming from
38:09but you know
38:10it has some
38:10of them parents
38:11you know
38:11that they show
38:12themselves to
38:13they show themselves
38:14to say this
38:15they just naturally
38:16see where the behavior
38:17are coming from.
38:18Jackie, go like that boy.
38:39All right.
38:40Thank you to the people
38:40of San Juan
38:42the lady used
38:44a very important
38:45and operative word
38:46there
38:47the word
38:48peace
38:49and there has
38:52to be a way
38:53to restore peace
38:55in the school
38:55environment
38:56to restore
38:58education
38:59and learning
39:00on a wider scale
39:02in the education
39:03sector
39:03because I don't know
39:05it should be of concern
39:07to every parent
39:08that the environment
39:11that their child
39:12is going into
39:13because you don't
39:13want to get a call
39:14that your child
39:15is being bullied
39:16or your child
39:17was stabbed
39:18or something bad
39:20would have happened
39:20to your child
39:21so it is very
39:22very important
39:23to restore
39:23that peace.
39:25And I want to agree
39:25with you
39:26Marlon
39:27and I want to agree
39:28with you by
39:28you know
39:29bolstering that position
39:30that you have taken
39:31and we are on
39:32legally speaking
39:33Wednesday
39:33so I am
39:34you know
39:34inclined
39:36to take you
39:37and the
39:37citizenry of
39:38Trinidad and Tobago
39:39into the education act
39:40and into the education act
39:42there is a particular
39:43section
39:44I think
39:44if I recall
39:45section 27
39:46that places
39:47irresponsibility
39:48on the principals
39:49and by extension
39:50the delegates
39:51vice principals
39:52and other senior teachers
39:54for the safety
39:55of the pupils
39:57within that school system
39:58and the reason
39:59why I am saying that
39:59is that while
40:01and I must
40:01you know
40:02acknowledge
40:02I think it is
40:03a beautiful response
40:04in the interview
40:05as a matter of fact
40:06hearing us
40:07spoke
40:08was very much
40:11in line
40:13with what we were
40:13speaking about
40:14in terms of that
40:14societal response
40:16to relation to violence
40:17where we are
40:17calling on the parents
40:18and let the Lord
40:19bring the parents
40:20involved
40:20go beyond the parents
40:22and see what is happening
40:22in the home
40:22and so forth
40:23but equally
40:24where the principals
40:25and the teachers
40:26are concerned
40:26that particular duty
40:28for the safety
40:29of the pupils
40:29it requires
40:31in my view
40:32a review
40:32as to whether
40:33in fact
40:33there is proper
40:34systems and structure
40:35to be able to match
40:36and monitor
40:37the behavior
40:38of the children
40:38because Marlon
40:39without giving too much
40:41if a child
40:43misbehaves
40:43and the child
40:44is arrested
40:45and there is evidence
40:46to charge and place
40:47that child
40:48before the court
40:48if I am advising
40:50on that matter
40:51immediately
40:52I am going to go
40:53to the principal
40:54of that school
40:55to get an understanding
40:56as to who
40:57this child
40:58is
40:58within that school
40:59system
41:00and you may learn
41:01that the child
41:02has always exhibited
41:03the propensity
41:04for violence
41:05it's just on that
41:07particular occasion
41:07it resulted
41:08in a break
41:09of the skin
41:09but at all material
41:11times
41:12there were
41:12assaults
41:13and you know
41:14we like to use
41:14this word
41:15quote unquote
41:15bullying
41:15which if you
41:17studied properly
41:17can be what
41:18a criminal offense
41:20and that's the point
41:21in my view
41:21that the honorable
41:22prime minister
41:23was echoing
41:24that we're speaking
41:24about ourselves
41:25but if a child
41:27apprehends
41:27the unlawful
41:28application of violence
41:29on his or her person
41:30that could give rise
41:32to a criminal offense
41:33so that particular
41:34section
41:34brings the other
41:36stakeholders on board
41:37which is the principal
41:37and the teachers
41:39so you've seen
41:40principal, teachers
41:41parents, students
41:42and the justice system
41:44all getting involved
41:45to deal
41:46with the issue
41:47of school violence
41:47thank you very much
41:48for that perspective
41:48sir
41:49we are going to
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44:24alright welcome back everybody
44:37so let's return to our lines
44:38good evening caller
44:39caller good evening
44:42good evening
44:44Mr. Marlon
44:46and a good afternoon
44:48to Sergeant Ali
44:49good evening to you sir
44:50a couple of things
44:53I believe
44:54reading on one of the newspapers
44:56today
44:56ACP Meister
44:58has said
44:59five girls
45:01that were part of the
45:03fracquats
45:04at Holy Faith
45:05on Vancouver
45:07I believe was arrested
45:08and charged
45:09five of them
45:09they did not belong
45:10to the Holy Faith
45:11but they were from
45:12other schools
45:13but
45:13but as by
45:14by the side
45:17the key
45:18topic today
45:20is governance
45:22in the TTPS
45:24and I believe
45:26two components
45:28corrective action
45:30and preventive action
45:32has
45:33for me as a citizen
45:34has not been
45:35part
45:37of the governance
45:38structure
45:39of the TTPS
45:41because we have
45:41too many things
45:42being repeated
45:43repeating itself
45:44look there
45:45again
45:46prosecution
45:47and the state
45:48could not file
45:49that the prosecution
45:50said the police
45:51didn't do me file
45:51but I want to go
45:53to something deeper
45:54and I do want
45:55to discuss it
45:55because
45:56an investigation
45:57is taking place
45:58and I'm only going
45:59to use
45:59this P
46:00I and I
46:02this is going
46:04to be
46:05possibly
46:06the fourth
46:07investigation
46:08when the judge
46:10made the pronunciation
46:12about the
46:12Brent Thomas'
46:13issue
46:14the police
46:16service
46:16commission
46:17have a mandate
46:20and a duty
46:21to investigate
46:23any officer
46:26that has
46:27allegations
46:28against them
46:29and more
46:31particularly
46:32if they
46:34have been
46:35selected
46:35for promotion
46:36that particular
46:38individual
46:39right after
46:41the judge
46:41castigated
46:42her behavior
46:42with respect
46:43to that
46:44she was
46:44promoted
46:45to the
46:46DCP
46:46and that is
46:48why I have
46:49a problem
46:49with the TTPS
46:50if you cannot
46:51do the corrective
46:52action
46:53discipline
46:53people
46:54and do the
46:55preventive
46:56action
46:56we're going
46:57to be spinning
46:57tough
46:58with the
46:59TTPS
47:00all right
47:02thank you
47:03very much
47:03well Marlon
47:04you know
47:05very strong
47:06comments
47:06from the
47:07caller
47:07and you
47:08know
47:08I always
47:08respect
47:09the expressions
47:11and views
47:11and opinions
47:12from members
47:13of the public
47:13and because
47:14at the end
47:15of the day
47:15when we are
47:16speaking about
47:16transparency
47:16and accountability
47:17you know
47:18there's a saying
47:20that the
47:20police is
47:21the people
47:22and the people
47:22is the police
47:23and you
47:24know
47:24this is a
47:24clear and
47:25clarion call
47:25you know
47:26to the
47:26institution
47:26that has
47:27the
47:27responsibility
47:27you know
47:28to look
47:29at these
47:29matters
47:29but
47:30again
47:32you know
47:32when we
47:33look at
47:33the state
47:35in its
47:35entirety
47:36Marlon
47:37I will say
47:38that we
47:38are at a
47:39juncture
47:39that really
47:40you know
47:41some time
47:42ago we
47:42would have
47:43called for
47:43constitutional
47:43reform
47:44and we
47:45know what
47:46came out
47:46of that
47:46and I
47:47think that
47:47we have
47:48a great
47:48opportunity
47:48respectfully
47:49you know
47:50you know
47:50wearing my
47:50legal hat
47:51firmly
47:51that I
47:52think that
47:53we need
47:53to pay
47:53attention
47:54immediately
47:55to our
47:55constitutional
47:56provisions
47:56and not
47:57only in
47:57relation
47:58to the
47:58police
47:58service
47:58and the
47:59police
47:59service
48:00commission
48:00but we
48:01are
48:01seeing
48:01also
48:01things
48:02are
48:02happening
48:02within
48:02the
48:02teachers
48:03and this
48:03commission
48:03so I
48:04think that
48:05it's
48:05important
48:05for us
48:06to use
48:06this
48:07advantage
48:07you know
48:08as a
48:08country
48:09to really
48:10you know
48:11legally
48:11attack
48:12that
48:12constitution
48:12to ensure
48:13that it
48:13continues
48:13to represent
48:14you know
48:15the
48:16transparency
48:19the
48:19accountability
48:20and
48:21that we
48:22are so
48:22in need
48:24of
48:24you know
48:25in every
48:25aspect
48:26you know
48:26of our
48:27governance
48:28and you
48:29know
48:29when we
48:29speak about
48:30things like
48:30elections
48:31and election
48:31offenses
48:32you know
48:32that has
48:33just gone
48:33but if you
48:34look at the
48:34constitution
48:35and look at
48:35the legal
48:35framework
48:36even you
48:36know
48:37we need
48:37to pay
48:38attention
48:38to that
48:38so I
48:39just
48:39summarize
48:39it by
48:40immediate
48:40review
48:41all right
48:41let's
48:41take
48:42another
48:42call
48:42good
48:42evening
48:43caller
48:43yes
48:47good
48:48evening
48:48today
48:50I am
48:50extremely
48:51happy
48:51because
48:53of the
48:53fact
48:53that
48:53our
48:54third
48:54barrier
48:55has
48:56been
48:56elevated
48:57to
48:58a
48:58ministerial
48:59position
48:59and
49:01then
49:01two
49:01the
49:04new
49:04commissioner
49:04you
49:05somehow
49:06know
49:06is
49:07very
49:07intelligent
49:08why
49:10call
49:11in
49:11the
49:11state
49:12that
49:14I am
49:14so
49:14happy
49:14for the
49:16course
49:16that
49:17is
49:17following
49:18right
49:19now
49:19because
49:20I can
49:20see
49:21a lot
49:21of
49:22things
49:22happening
49:22in a
49:23very
49:23short
49:24while
49:24thank
49:25you
49:25all right
49:27thank you
49:27very much
49:28for your
49:28comments
49:28yeah
49:29well
49:29thank you
49:29very much
49:30caller
49:30for your
49:31positive
49:31comments
49:32and
49:32you
49:33know
49:33the
49:34steps
49:35that
49:35the
49:35police
49:35commissioner
49:35is
49:35taking
49:36you
49:36know
49:36Marlon
49:37we have
49:37seen
49:38a lot
49:38of
49:38things
49:38happening
49:38you
49:39know
49:39we have
49:40seen
49:40a lot
49:40of
49:40efficiency
49:40and
49:41effectiveness
49:41but I
49:41need to
49:42identify
49:42something
49:42as well
49:43you know
49:44you are
49:44seen
49:45you are
49:45seen
49:46a strong
49:46state
49:47response
49:47and I
49:48just
49:48grown up
49:49to
49:49Pirco
49:49International
49:49Airport
49:50yesterday
49:50and I
49:51think
49:51it was
49:51on the
49:51front page
49:52of the
49:52Express
49:52yes
49:52it is
49:53yeah
49:53and when
49:54I saw
49:54the
49:55commissioner
49:55police
49:55I saw
49:56the
49:56homeland
49:57the
49:58minister
49:59homeland
49:59security
50:00and other
50:01high-ranking
50:02officials
50:02I saw
50:03the
50:03representation
50:04of the
50:04state
50:04I didn't
50:05see an
50:06individual
50:06but I
50:07see a
50:07national
50:08security
50:09apparatus
50:09responding
50:11to the
50:11challenges
50:11that we
50:12are facing
50:12in the
50:12airport
50:12so I
50:13too
50:13want to
50:13concur
50:13with the
50:15response
50:15and I
50:16want to
50:17publicly
50:17say to
50:17the commissioner
50:18and the
50:18minister
50:18that they
50:19have my
50:19full
50:19support
50:20in going
50:20forward
50:20as well
50:21we must
50:21go to a
50:22very short
50:22break
50:22again
50:22we are
50:23coming
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50:23time is
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53:31All right, everybody.
53:42So, welcome back.
53:43So, here's what.
53:44Let's take another call.
53:45We do have a call, right, Jackie?
53:46Good evening, caller.
53:48Hi, good evening, gentlemen.
53:50Good evening.
53:50Good evening.
53:52Yeah, I get through.
53:53I'm all excited.
53:53So, yes, I'm trying to get through.
53:55So, I'm glad that I have gotten through on a day when Sergeant Ali is there.
54:01Because I always admire, I always look forward to a Wednesday.
54:08Because I learn so much.
54:10I learn so much from listening to Sergeant Ali.
54:15Yeah?
54:16Mm-hmm.
54:17Do you have a question, ma'am?
54:19Sorry?
54:20Do you have a question?
54:21No, just commence.
54:22All right.
54:23Well, Alan, it's nice having you back.
54:26I'm a little bit disappointed, though, that there was no mention made of Mr. Backfront.
54:34Well, he's going to be back here on Monday, eh?
54:36No, no, no, no, nothing like that.
54:39We do know what's happening to him.
54:42You know, no kind of recognition.
54:44No, he's going to be back on Monday.
54:46Yeah?
54:47I would have said that on Monday when I came in.
54:49All right?
54:50So.
54:51Yes.
54:52Hold on to the strain.
54:53It's just two more days.
54:54All right?
54:54Thank you very much for your comments, ma'am.
54:56All right?
54:57So, Sergeant, we just have a few minutes, maybe about two minutes again.
55:02Well, Marlon, first let me.
55:03But before we do that, what is your position, or do you have a position at all?
55:08Because earlier we did speak about the decriminalization of marijuana.
55:12There have been various concerns about that.
55:17How well do you think it has worked?
55:19What have been the pros and cons of it?
55:22Well, Marlon, I don't have the, you know, empirical.
55:24You know, I don't have the perspective of the various stakeholders.
55:28But what I can say, and, you know, continuing from our advocacy.
55:31Yes.
55:31And perhaps, you know, I probably make a formal request for a seat on the morning edition.
55:36All right.
55:36To further expand this issue.
55:37All right.
55:38Know that you have engaged me.
55:40You know, I think that is a matter that continues to require immediate review.
55:44Right.
55:44And I'm saying that, and I sense from the Honourable Minister of Homeland Security, that issue in terms of the drugs, while it may have gone to the issue of ecstasy and other dangerous drugs.
55:57I think that the issue of narcotics, the issue of dangerous drugs still continuing to prevail.
56:02So, you know, I think that is an area that needs immediate review.
56:06And, you know, I want to respectfully advise the legislators, you know, to place that on the agenda with reference to looking at the best interests of Trinidad and Tobago.
56:15And more importantly, the children of our nation.
56:18So, you know, perhaps, you know, when I give, is given the opportunity on your program, you know, probably I can expand a little more.
56:24But, Marlon, you'll be remiss of me if I don't acknowledge the kind comments, you know, of the caller.
56:29Caller, thank you all very much.
56:30And, you know, I always say on this program, Marlon, that my duty and responsibility is to ensure that the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago is properly and effectively engaged.
56:42But more importantly, you need to listen to the calls that they are making.
56:45So, I want to thank each and every one of you for your kind comments.
56:48I have one minute for you again.
56:50Sure.
56:50If you would like it.
56:52Well, Marlon, it was, in fact, a privilege to be here.
56:55And I think that, you know, you are definitely one of the outstanding TV personalities, you know.
57:02And, you know, I have just confessed earlier that your interviews on a morning, you know, I want to urge Trinidad and Tobago,
57:08the persons that you attract to that morning edition and the topics that you are discussing, like case in point this morning.
57:14Yeah.
57:15That's cool violence issue.
57:17The issue with the Police Service Commission and other very serious matters.
57:20You know, I want to ask you to continue to do the great work.
57:23On behalf of TV6 and for Trinidad and Tobago, because the media, as your chief executive officer would have indicated,
57:30the media is an institution that is very much alive and very important in the current time that we live.
57:37So, hold every stakeholder accountable for transparency and accountability.
57:42Yeah.
57:42Sergeant, it's always good.
57:44Thank you very much for your kind words.
57:45It's always good to see and speak with you.
57:48And thank you for the good job that you and your team continue to do.
57:51Just incidentally, there's still time for the town meeting at the La Hauqueta Police District,
57:57La Hauqueta Public Library, Slinger Francisco Boulevard in La Hauqueta.
58:02All right.
58:02So, yeah.
58:04So, take in some of the news and then go over to the meeting.
58:07Tell them I sent you.
58:08Yeah.
58:09We'll see you two right here tomorrow again at 6 o'clock.
58:12Bye.
58:12Bye, everybody.
58:12Bye, everybody.
58:18Bye.
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