00:00the browns are adamant all along like i told you an hour ago we're not trading we're not trading
00:04but the rams began pursuing miles garrett they kept pursuing miles garrett they didn't stop
00:10pursuing miles garrett until they were eventually willing to include jared verse in the trade
00:17once jared verse got included in the trade the browns were interested that spin from adam
00:24schefter on the mcafee show talking the miles garrett trade we got quick hits coming up at
00:31some point in the near future uh we got lance risland come up at four o'clock and we continue
00:37to react to the big trade of the day miles garrett it is official it can't be official until four
00:42but the trade compensation is official miles garrett for jared verse a first rounder in 2027
00:48a second rounder in 2028 and a third rounder in 2029 and uh that is where the cleveland browns are
00:56right now and we'll kind of see what else they might i mean schefter made it sound as if the
01:01rams
01:01threw in like a ricky williams s package there what was that i mean that's not even close to reality
01:06i
01:06mean that was even one of the and i can't remember the guy's name but there was a there was
01:10kind of a
01:12secondary nfl reporter who's kind of on the up and come and he had he had mentioned ricky williams
01:18type offer the rams were getting ready i kept seeing that all day yesterday and so it's just
01:23that's that's how he's framing that he's framing that as if this was like oh my god the browns
01:27can't possibly say no to that deal that wasn't that no way and i was versed the guy that charles
01:32robinson claims is worth two firsts in this whole ordeal how is he the way that schefter painted that
01:38was as if verse was the late addition to this whole entire thing how is two firsts the bulk of
01:44the trade
01:44the late addition and that's this is precisely why i i god i don't want to say it this way
01:49but
01:50why i tend to really hate the the process of the nfl media which is team makes a trade and
01:56then whether
01:57it's schefter rapaport any of the big name reporters is they just get right on board to carry water for
02:03an organization that spent three months stonewalling you and basically lying to your face so that i don't
02:11know you can get the next time they trade the next miles garrett like you don't have to polish this
02:15turd do i think jared verse in the three picks do i think that's a disastrous return no it's also
02:22not
02:22three first it's not three first it's very light all things considered and the rhetoric today should
02:27be nick it should be uh why didn't they do this last year yeah and maybe that as the week
02:31moves on
02:31this should be uh it will turn into this and all of a sudden when we have like albert on
02:35he'll be like
02:36this is why i told you guys last year they should have made the deal then like this is the
02:40the only big
02:40eye-opening thing to me out of today when it comes to that is is they missed their window to
02:45do this
02:45when there was a million different suitors a million different teams and three different firsts that were
02:49on the table 216-474-0092 miles garrett is now a los angeles ram and here's can i tell you
02:58the thing
02:58that has also been kind of plaguing my mind and again i started the show by saying this is why
03:03it sucks
03:04sometimes to be a browns fan because we're always on the wrong side of this we're always on the trading
03:10miles garrett we're always on the wrongs even when we trade for the the great player it ends up being
03:14odell beckham jr or deshaun watson right like so few times do you get to be on the cool side
03:20of a trade
03:21and then go thank god we made that trade because of all that super bowls whether we've won it just
03:26has not happened and i in there absolutely is a cause and effect of how the organization is run and
03:32who runs it and who owns it and how this stuff has worked out not that the learners did that
03:36much
03:36better of a job just while we're on the note of the matter but like it like this idea of
03:42my if miles
03:43goes to la and let's say for the next five years he is miles garrett and he goes ahead and
03:49he breaks
03:49the sack record right which i think he's only 75 sacks off a very doable in the next five years
03:55on a
03:55winning team and let's say another defensive player of the year award and he wins a super bowl or two
04:01that is all going to whitewash miles's brown's legacy in a way that people will be like yeah
04:07he played in cleveland first but dot dot dot dot oh are we in like lindor territory now oh i
04:12think
04:12this is going to be worse because i mean lindor hasn't accomplished nearly as much obviously with
04:16the mets but the idea that when people think of lindor they think of him in a mets uniform
04:19it's manny ramirez same story yeah oh no that's a great that's perfect oh i thought you had more
04:26but no but exactly right like he goes to boston he wins the world series he accomplishes
04:30everything there and people in the baseball world they don't think about him in a cleveland
04:33uniform at all they think about him in a boston uniform and so it's just that there's elements
04:37of this of and again like the there is an element of if you trust the browns to get the
04:43quarterback
04:43out of this then you're not really sweating today right and i think i do think if jared
04:48verse can be healthy this year i think you guys will enjoy him as a young player so there are
04:53elements
04:54of this where it's not just purely negative or purely just trading for the future but if you trust
04:59the browns on this you'll be fine right you'll you'll you'll find a reason in july to be excited
05:04about the browns but it is the trust the browns that i am done doing until they get a quarterback
05:10of merit and i can't i can't help but coming back to the idea the extra in the face is
05:17deshaun
05:17watson being the starting quarterback for the cleveland browns this year which it feels like they're really
05:21ramping up to do well the sell that the browns have to have now is it's not about wins and
05:25losses
05:25it's about getting excited for the young kids that's going to be their like their selling point
05:29they should start making the graphics now and the posters and billboards and everything now
05:32let the kids play just simple as that yep just run it back just make make that the message because
05:37that's all you can't sell anybody on wins despite what the morning show claims with me another day
05:42of them saying i won 10 games or i i printed this team to win 10 games it's just insane
05:45yeah mac and
05:46i were there you said obviously i i have a burger bet against mac that suggests the exact opposite of
05:52that but that's either here nor there uh like most people are going to settle in on seven six seven
05:56somewhere in that range maybe even five wins now that's the reality for this browns team and getting
06:00optimism around this team in any way outside of just rooting on the first and second year players
06:06is going to be really hard to come by guys they did this for the betterment of the browns
06:09and they're smarter than us so let's just take them at their word well no the hard part right is
06:15what they're asking you to do is a thing that this regime not even just past browns regimes this
06:21regime has already asked you to do which is in two three years we're going to be really really
06:26good you just have to take our word for it and you just have to accept the idea we know
06:29what we're
06:30doing andrew barry we we can't trust that we've seen you do this and it not work no no but
06:35he means
06:35it this time i know i know he means it this time meanwhile as i've as i've pointed out about
06:40the uh
06:40the gm farce that exists across sports leagues where they're just in one big race to have their job for
06:45as long as they possibly can in this setup andrew barry won't be proven wrong with his big picture
06:51idea and what he plans for all this for another two to three years at minimum which means he won't
06:56bend the gm for 10 years while one playoff win is always that's at his resume that's an insanely
07:03long time to not have results nick the greatest con it's seriously he is putting on a master class
07:08not on how not on being a good gm but on how do you get paid to do that job
07:13the job you get one
07:14crack at in the nfl do that job for as long as you possibly can somebody is dangerously close to
07:20saying results over process and i can't believe it's jonathan peterlin at some point you have to
07:25have results no at some point you have to have the process is all that the process stinks no but
07:30what matters is that he's now they'll get it right he's convinced jimmy haslam that he has all these
07:35answers and this is all going to be right and just stay with this vision that i've created and we
07:39won't
07:39get a payoff if it ever happens we won't get a payoff until 10 years in that's just such an
07:44insane ask
07:45he is doubled up what sam hinkey did in philadelphia hinkey took five years before philadelphia was
07:50like okay we can't trust this this is this guy doesn't know what the hell he's doing he's doubled
07:54that up well yeah the time we'll have actual results but you're missing the point if we ever get there
07:58sam hinkey never made the worst trade in nfl history it's insane yeah it's it's absolutely i can't believe
08:03it i the grift that he's pulled off and all of this if he doesn't deliver results after 10 years
08:08astounding to me
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