00:00Right now, the Browns have four quarterbacks on their roster, as we know, and you would
00:06assume that one of them is going to be the starting quarterback this year.
00:10Yep.
00:11Okay.
00:13What scenario is the number one scenario in your mind?
00:20I'll give you mine.
00:22Dan will give you his.
00:24I walked back in the room, and Dan said, I said, what do you think about the little
00:29game?
00:30He goes, oh, I know what your number one scenario is.
00:32I said, do you?
00:33And he went, yep.
00:34And then he told me, and by God, he knows me really well.
00:38So it's almost like we talk to each other for about five hours a day.
00:41Crazy.
00:43You have four quarterbacks, Deshaun Watson, Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, Taylor Green.
00:50Mm-hmm.
00:51Absolute best case scenario, Browns come out of training camp with what, Andy?
00:57And we're going to have to show our work on this.
00:59So we're not just giving answers.
01:00We're going to show our work.
01:02Best case scenario is what?
01:04Shador Sanders, starting quarterback, Deshaun Watson, backup.
01:10You don't have to go on, because we're going to do a second best scenario.
01:15Oh.
01:15You don't have to do the whole thing.
01:16I'll just give you.
01:17What's the best scenario?
01:17Which guy is the best case scenario for a starter?
01:20What's the best case scenario at quarterback?
01:22Shador.
01:23Shador.
01:24You want me to show my work?
01:25Yep.
01:25Young quarterback, could have a very long future, entertaining, fans generally like him.
01:33It's a win-win-win.
01:35Marketing, athletic ability, play, long-term star power, all sitting right there for you if it works out.
01:43So Shador Sanders, without a doubt, is my number one, make this happen, if it works.
01:50Dan, is yours the same as mine?
01:53Mine is second-year quarterback grabs reins of job.
01:57Whether that's Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders, I don't care.
02:00I think Shador would be the answer to it.
02:02But as long as a second-year cheap quarterback grabs the reins of this job and hangs on to it,
02:07that's the biggest success.
02:09Dan's is not the same as mine.
02:11Dan, best-case scenario for me with a Browns quarterback situation, and unlikely to happen.
02:19Todd Munkin decides he adores Talon Green because at 6'6", running like crazy, and an arm like absolute crazy,
02:34he turns Talon Green into a stud quarterback.
02:40Week one?
02:42I said number one, best-case scenario.
02:45Going into week one.
02:46Through all the offseason, preseason, everything else, Talon Green shows that he is the man.
02:52And the reason I say that, though he was a sixth-round pick, and you know my rule, you don't
02:58draft any quarterback outside of the second round
03:00and think you actually have a starting quarterback.
03:01But his skill set matches what Munkin has preached, and his skill set has a higher ceiling than Shador or
03:14Dylan or a beat-up Deshaun Watson.
03:18So that's my best-case scenario.
03:20This kid stuns everybody, lights it up, and Todd coaches him up, and he becomes the beast and actually answers
03:28the question,
03:28who is your franchise quarterback?
03:30Wow.
03:32I'm just telling you, best-case, did I say it was likely?
03:35No, I said it was unlikely.
03:36Second-best scenario.
03:38How is that the best?
03:38I still don't see that as the best-case scenario.
03:40Andy, 6'6", with a rocket arm, and he can run like crazy.
03:43Show me any other quarterback on this team that has that skill set.
03:46Nobody does.
03:48Nobody does.
03:48I'm sure he's got an arm.
03:50Yeah, okay, good.
03:51He's not 6'6", and he doesn't run that way, and he doesn't run as well.
03:54Yeah, he doesn't run like Taylor Greene.
03:57I'm just telling you, that's the best-case scenario.
03:59How many games have you watched Taylor Greene play?
04:00I've sat down and watched enough tape that I thought, oh my God, that guy's got a skill set that's
04:05just incredible.
04:06Did you see any?
04:07Did you see?
04:08I'm just asking.
04:08That doesn't mean he can play in the NFL.
04:10I'm just asking.
04:11And I don't think it's going to happen.
04:12I'm just telling you.
04:13That's the best-case scenario.
04:14Were there any bad plays on that tape?
04:15Did Taylor Greene have one bad play on that tape?
04:18I will tell you.
04:18This might be wrong.
04:20I don't like looking at bad plays.
04:23Because they're reality most of the time.
04:25Because of this.
04:26I see the good.
04:28No, if you do it and you put it on tape, that means you can be coached up to do
04:33it on a more regular basis.
04:35That's why.
04:36Every quarterback stinks from time to time.
04:38Every one.
04:39But if you have abilities and you can get coached up, that's the deal.
04:45Josh Allen looked like hell on tape, Andy.
04:48By God, look what happened.
04:50Jeff.
04:50Somebody coached him up.
04:51If you get your driver's license, does that mean you're a good driver?
04:54Andy, I'm not.
04:55I'm asking a question.
04:56No.
04:57Okay.
04:57No.
04:58I'm not campaigning for Taylor Greene.
05:00My little game was, what's the best-case scenario?
05:03Okay.
05:03The best-case scenario is you end up with a surprise who's a 6'6 stud who can run like
05:08crazy and has a great arm.
05:10Second-best scenario.
05:11Dan, you go first.
05:15Second for long-term success or the 26th season?
05:18This season.
05:18For this season.
05:20Probably Taylor Greene.
05:22If we're able to put that one on the table, then that's probably the second-best thing that can happen.
05:27Because that means quarterback for the future.
05:29That means something that you can possibly build upon.
05:35Andy?
05:37Deshaun Watson.
05:39If Watson can give us some sort of return on investment for the misery that we've had for him being
05:44here for all these years
05:45and actually go out there and win and play good football like he did at the beginning of his career,
05:51then I think that's the second-best option.
05:54You know, the best-case scenario is that we're at the end of the season and people are saying,
06:00man, you know what?
06:01Deshaun Watson really turned things around.
06:03I don't know, maybe we should bring him back.
06:07I'm not saying that's what anybody wants to hear, but it's a possibility.
06:12So I will go with Deshaun Watson as my number-two option.
06:15My number-two option is Shadur Sanders shows he's clearly better than everybody else and wins the job
06:21for all of the reasons that you laid out, Andy, as your number-one option.
06:27All the reasons.
06:28You were on the money with those.
06:29Well, thank you, Jeff.
06:30I just think that there's a little higher ceiling with the other guy if they're able to tap into that
06:35skill set.
06:35What's the third-best scenario?
06:38I'll give you mine.
06:40Still and Gabriel shows that he is a quarterback that can win in the NFL,
06:46and he plays better than Shadur and Taylor Green and Deshaun Watson and wins the job.
06:54He's been very, very successful at the college level at some big-time programs.
06:59He's still 5'10".
07:02It goes back to our conversation about basketball.
07:06Teams with small guys as their number-one guy in basketball rarely win NBA championships.
07:13Teams with 5'10"-inch quarterbacks rarely win Super Bowls or win big.
07:19That's why he's my third-best scenario.
07:22If he was 6'4", 6'5", first of all, he never would have been available in the third round.
07:29And second of all, he'd already be the starting quarterback.
07:33You want my third?
07:34Do I ever.
07:35Okay.
07:36My third-best scenario is that they trade Dylan Gabriel for a third-round pick somewhere else
07:41so that this is all a wash.
07:45It's all a wash.
07:47You get a third-round pick back.
07:48Somebody else can worry about that.
07:51I feel bad for the guy for even getting drafted here, then having the opportunity,
07:56then unfortunately suffering a concussion and losing his job by getting a concussion.
08:02So for Dylan Gabriel's sake, because I think he's a decent quarterback,
08:05I think he's going to be a good backup somewhere other than Cleveland.
08:10Good luck, Dylan.
08:11I hope that we can get a third-round pick for you, and that would be my third-best scenario.
08:16Dano, third-best scenario.
08:20I mean, I guess at this point it's Deshaun Watson
08:23because I've already picked the other four guys in this round.
08:25I mean, unless we go talk Jimmy G out of retirement, can I get that?
08:29Can I get Handsome Jimmy out of retirement?
08:32Somebody will next year.
08:34Talk yourself out.
08:35Somebody's quarterback's going to get hurt.
08:36I have no interest in watching Deshaun Watson do anything.
08:39I'm sorry.
08:39I just have Zip Zero and Zilch interest in watching him do anything.
08:43It just does nothing for me.
08:45I don't care if they succeed.
08:46I don't even want to watch that guy.
08:47I just don't care.
08:49I flat out don't care.
08:50Your dead last scenario, Andy.
08:52You have four quarterbacks.
08:53What's your fourth scenario?
08:56Not ready.
08:56Taylor Green has to step out on the field and maybe make things interesting.
09:02Dano?
09:05I've already exhausted all four quarterbacks and brought Jimmy G out of retirement,
09:08so I don't know what it would be from there.
09:12I guess Wildcat?
09:13I mean, at least, you know, go...
09:15Here you go, Quinchon.
09:16Yeah, maybe go full-blown, you know, service academy offense at this point.
09:21Why not?
09:21My fourth best scenario would be Deshaun Watson shows he's the best quarterback
09:27and plays this year in the final year of a contract,
09:31and you look to move on from him after next year.
09:36I still don't...
09:37With everything that's happened here,
09:39I'm still really hard-pressed to think that Deshaun has anything more than a year left here.
09:47And so that's why I have each of the other three guys beating out everybody else
09:54before I have Deshaun.
09:56And it's only because I don't see a world where they bring him back.
10:02Do you?
10:03Yeah, the one where they get to the playoffs and win the playoff game or two.
10:08That's the scenario.
10:09That's a reach.
10:11But possible.
10:12But possible.
10:13I mean, it happens every year in the NFL.
10:16And Deshaun, the old Deshaun anyway, certainly has that capability.
10:20Don't you think?
10:22Yes.
10:22Whether the new Deshaun does, I don't know.
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