00:00I've mentioned the Dan Lobby, and Dan does a real nice job
00:04along with Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock
00:07for the PlainDealerCleven.com covering the Browns.
00:10It was on March 10th.
00:12It was updated.
00:14Browns are actually doing exactly what they said they would
00:17to start free agency.
00:18It was 10 Tuesday takes by Dan Lobby.
00:21And I'll scroll back to where do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do,
00:27killing time as I look for it again.
00:28Yeah, you want to sing or dance or something?
00:30Yeah, dancing wouldn't be bad here.
00:31I don't mind that at all.
00:33I wanted to go and read the headline.
00:36Just give us the big one.
00:37Yeah, here it is.
00:38Well, I went back to get the headline, but it's a long thing.
00:41He wrote these 10 things.
00:42But this is funny.
00:44And Dan, well done.
00:46And he's talking about the quarterback situation
00:48after they didn't get Malik Willis.
00:50And he said, we don't have a full picture of what that room
00:53will look like yet and might not until after the draft.
00:56I hope it's not done and we're not actually careening
01:00towards the Shadour Sanders versus the Sean Watson quarterback battle
01:03they keep threatening us with.
01:06There is.
01:09That's really well done.
01:11Dan, that was really good.
01:12There's no way we're going into the season
01:14with the way the quarterback room looks right now.
01:15There's just no way.
01:17It can't be.
01:17I feel like we're going through the argument that we had day after day
01:20where you would say, I think they're taking four quarterbacks in.
01:23They're going to take four quarterbacks into the season.
01:25I mean, everything looks like they're going to take four quarterbacks
01:28into the season.
01:29And I was like, Jeff, there's no way they're taking four quarterbacks
01:31into the season.
01:32And the reality hits right when the year starts.
01:35Yes, they will have four quarterbacks when they go into camp.
01:38Andrew Berry always has four and he always gets rid of one.
01:43And by the way, you're probably going to get rid of one of the two
01:45you drafted last year.
01:47Sorry.
01:47And one of those two could be your starter.
01:50And I'm not saying Gabriel, that's for sure.
01:52We've already seen that.
01:53So I think Gabriel ends up somewhere where things are a lot quieter for him.
01:59He's a perfect fit in Atlanta.
02:01Yeah, and that would make sense, wouldn't it?
02:03Because of the coach?
02:04No.
02:05He'd be the third left-handed quarterback they have.
02:07Well, at least everyone knows how the ball's going to spin as it comes to them.
02:10Yeah.
02:10You don't have to adjust if a different quarterback comes in.
02:13Paul McDonald when you need him, right?
02:14You have him, kind of.
02:17That said, Mr. Bing, Kirk Cousins has a roster bonus that's due on the 13th.
02:26He's getting released.
02:27We know that.
02:28Right.
02:28Kyler Murray appears bound for Minnesota, which is where a lot of folks thought
02:33Kirk Cousins might be going.
02:36One of those two guys I would think is going to be the starting quarterback in
02:39Minnesota next year.
02:42If Kirk Cousins doesn't go to Minnesota, does this mean I win the J.J.
02:46McCarthy argument?
02:47Do I win the argument?
02:49No, because I don't think they're done with him yet.
02:53They think he's not ready, apparently, and we'll see.
03:00They invested a high enough pick in him that, Andy, I think he's going to get a
03:03little more time.
03:04Would you want Kirk Cousins here?
03:07Because if you brought him here, to me, it screams Kirk Cousins as your
03:10starting quarterback.
03:14Truthfully, yes.
03:15I would like Kirk Cousins to be our starting quarterback next year.
03:18I would.
03:19But I also think that they're not.
03:22The question there then becomes, is it Cousins, Watson, and Sanders?
03:28And I don't know if that works.
03:30You know what else wouldn't shock me?
03:32If they trade both quarterbacks that they brought in last year.
03:34That wouldn't shock me either.
03:37It just depends on what direction they want to go.
03:39You've got a new head coach, and I don't know where he wants it.
03:42I just know that if I was Todd Munkin, and as much as he may like, if he likes
03:47Shadour, it's easy.
03:48You hand him the ball and tell him he's a starter, and you go forward from there
03:51until things go sideways.
03:52It is that simple, actually.
03:54Yes.
03:55I just feel like they're going to hand the ball to Deshaun Watson right now and
03:58go, all right, let's see what you got left.
04:01And if he's got nothing left, then they're going to move on.
04:04If he, you know, if he does have something left, that's going to throw a wrench into
04:12the system, don't you think?
04:13Because what happens if they come out, and he's the starting quarterback in the beginning
04:17of the year, and they play well?
04:19And the defense matches there.
04:21The offense comes to within 75% of the defense, and now suddenly you're winning games.
04:25And is this the plan?
04:28Andy, I still have a hard time imagining Deshaun Watson being healthy and not being
04:36the starting quarterback here.
04:37I cannot argue with you at all.
04:40And there are people that still believe that he's not...
04:43If he's healthy, I think he got to...
04:45If he's healthy and shows he can still play, and I don't even mean at the Houston level.
04:51If he's healthy and shows he can still play, I don't know how you sit him.
04:56But if you bring Cousins in, he's your starter.
04:58I can't think of any reason you'd bring Cousins in not to be your starter.
05:03The only way you bring him in and not be your starter is if you give him a league minimum.
05:06And then you can cut him if you don't like him.
05:09Can I...
05:09I want to mention these two guys again.
05:12Anthony Richardson, to me, I would go for it.
05:17I know Chris said no.
05:18I would do this.
05:20Jeff, if you spend any amount of money, you bring him in to be the starting quarterback, too.
05:24I think...
05:24You've put together an offensive line that's going to give whoever is a quarterback a better
05:29opportunity, you would think.
05:31Follow the money on whoever they bring in.
05:33If they spend a lot...
05:35He's your starter.
05:35That's right.
05:36But see, that's why you could bring in Anthony Richardson, let him develop under Todd Munkin
05:41for a while, and then see what you have.
05:44And you could pair him...
05:45But what is for a while in the NFL?
05:47That's the problem.
05:48It could be a year.
05:49I mean, the dude is younger than Shadour.
05:51He's younger than Dylan Gabriel.
05:54And I think it's...
05:55Just keep an eye on this one.
05:57I don't mean for the Browns, but just keep an eye on this one.
05:59Although I'd love to get him here and let Todd Munkin work with him because he screams
06:04Lamar Jackson light.
06:06The Cowboys signed Sam Howell, who threw like 600 passes in his rookie year for the Commanders
06:12as a starter and hasn't started since, but the Cowboys just signed him.
06:18And they have Dak Prescott.
06:20So what the heck did they sign him for?
06:21Joe Milton is sitting there.
06:23Joe Milton, I find really intriguing.
06:26And same thing with Anthony Richardson.
06:28And I would love to bring one of those two young guys in here with a free agent or have
06:33him sit behind Deshaun Watson and develop one of those two guys.
06:37Nobody drafts...
06:39No quarterback who lasts deep into a draft.
06:43And I say deep.
06:44If you're a quarterback, to me, deep is third round.
06:48Might even be second round.
06:49Probably.
06:50Definitely.
06:50For a quarterback.
06:51For a quarterback.
06:52The pressure to start quicker, obviously, is higher with the draft.
06:56Third, fourth, fifth round picks at quarterback, you keep your fingers crossed and hope you
06:59find somebody.
07:01And, you know, that's why if a team waits that long to draft a quarterback, I'm sorry,
07:08folks.
07:09They're just not sold on that guy.
07:10Doesn't mean they couldn't become something.
07:13You know, I mean, Dylan Gabriel could develop into something.
07:16Shador Sanders could develop into a fine quarterback.
07:18But you just don't draft guys.
07:21They're thinking they're the answer to anything, which is why Andy and I both think there's
07:25something more to come at quarterback for this team.
07:28And whether it's even Deshaun Watson starting.
07:31Yeah, I just, I don't see the quarterback room looking like it is today.
07:35There's no question.
07:35Man, I wish I knew what Todd Munkin thought about this.
07:38Don't you?
07:38Because he's going to be, don't you think he's going to be calling this shot?
07:43I do.
07:44I mean, you passed up Jim Schwartz to hire Todd Munkin.
07:48I still feel like.
07:49Because he's an offensive guy.
07:53There are two things here.
07:54One, ask yourself, if you're Todd Munkin and you have a football and you've got to hand
07:58it to one of those three guys that are in the room right now, who are you handing it
08:01to?
08:02And if you think Deshaun Watson's healthy, it's hard not to give it to him in the ball.
08:06It's hard not to.
08:07He's got the experience.
08:09Now, I know he hasn't played a whole lot.
08:11And then if you're like, well, I'm going to go on potential.
08:14I'm handing the ball to Shador.
08:17And we'll let Deshaun maybe develop.
08:19Or when Deshaun, the opportunity arises for him to play, then you're going to put him in.
08:22And Gabriel is on the outside looking in, and I will not be shocked.
08:25If they draft a quarterback, they'll trade him.
08:28There's just no way they're going to hang on to it.
08:29You're not hanging on to three quarterbacks with less than a full year's experience.
08:34You're just not doing that.
08:36There's no way.
08:37You've got to have somebody in there that's played before.
08:40More than a year.
08:41Doesn't this scream, though, Andy?
08:43Bringing in somebody with experience as opposed to drafting another guy.
08:48I mean, why are you going to—unless you're going to readjust some things, why would you draft Drew Aller?
08:56You're drafting Drew Aller because you—well, it depends where you're drafting him.
09:00But I still see Drew Aller as a guy who's going to get a chance to be a starting quarterback
09:04in the NFL.
09:05I think so, too.
09:07But the way the Browns quarterback group is situated right now, why would you draft Drew?
09:13You wouldn't.
09:14No, the way they are now, I wouldn't do it.
09:16You would.
09:16It may be late.
09:17But if you move on from Dylan Gabriel or if you think that Deshaun Watson's going to be your starter
09:24and you can develop Aller for a year, that's how you do it.
09:29I don't think you would start Shadour and draft Drew Aller or any other quarterback.
09:35And if you draft Ty Simpson, well, he's going to be your guy.
09:38Where, though?
09:39Where?
09:40If you're going to draft Ty Simpson.
09:42If you think Ty Simpson's the number two quarterback going in this draft, he's going to be your starting quarterback.
09:46Right.
09:46And he won't get past 24.
09:50I don't think he will either.
09:52Someone else needs a quarterback.
09:53Yeah.
09:54I would be stunned if he's sitting there at 24 for the Browns.
09:58Jeff, I'm also not going to be surprised if they trade for a quarterback who's currently sitting on somebody else's
10:03roster.
10:03Me neither.
10:05I keep thinking Anthony Richardson, even though people don't like him.
10:09And I understand why people don't.
10:11No, I get it.
10:11He hasn't shown a ton, but when you watch some of that tape and you think there's – and I
10:17keep going back to this.
10:18Well, Todd Munkin was hired because he is an offensive guy and develops quarterbacks.
10:27That's why you hire the guy.
10:29And Lamar Jackson was really good before he got with Todd Munkin, but Todd got him to an MVP in
10:34his first year together.
10:35Well, that's Grim Shador, though, if you ask me.
10:38Does it?
10:38If you feel like he can develop quarterbacks, then Shador is your guy.
10:42Unless he really, really wants more of a mobile quarterback than Shador, in which case Anthony Richardson would be that
10:49type of a guy.
10:52Oh, the intrigue, Andy.
10:54There's too many things going on.
10:55Oh, the intrigue.
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