00:00I don't know, I feel like my affection or obsession or whatever towards you
00:05hasn't really changed since I first met you.
00:12So, how did we meet?
00:15Okay, I want to hear your perspective too.
00:17Your perspective?
00:17But from my end, we met at the Organization of Black Women, which was this club.
00:23Remember when the hoteps came in?
00:25And we were just supposed to have that meeting with the girls
00:27and then these two random guys who I don't even think went to school came in recording.
00:32Yeah.
00:33And then you were like talking back to them and you didn't get intimidated by them.
00:37I was like, hmm, I like this girl.
00:39We went to a party.
00:41I think I sat on your lap because there was no room to sit.
00:45No.
00:45In the club?
00:46No.
00:46There was no room to sit in the party.
00:48I didn't even know you and you were sitting in my lap.
00:51Like we haven't even spoken.
00:52Yeah, because it was just like, this is Alicia's friend and we're all cool.
00:56I'm drunk.
00:57We're chilling.
00:58I don't know.
01:00Yeah.
01:01That's my perspective.
01:02That's not my perspective.
01:04And then afterwards, I just get this text and I'm like, it's like, from you.
01:08And you're like, oh, you too.
01:10Thanks so much for inviting me.
01:11It was so fun.
01:12Like, let me know if you ever want to hang out outside, like go to a museum or like a
01:16gallery
01:16or something and I immediately screenshot it and send it to Alicia.
01:22And I'm like, what is this?
01:23Yeah.
01:24I think it got back to me like in a couple of days and then.
01:26Oh my God.
01:27Was it a couple of days after?
01:28I don't know, but I, you know, how you get like.
01:34We've been together for six years, but like what was the day we were officially going out?
01:38Officially started going out.
01:40I think like August 2nd or 3rd is our official date because I was going to go to Madrid in
01:46a couple
01:46weeks and I didn't want to leave without knowing if you were my girlfriend or not.
01:51Oh.
01:52Do you remember what the conversation was like when we first started dating or like how I asked you?
01:58Yeah.
01:59We were like in my room and you're like, you know, I'm getting ready to go to Madrid soon.
02:05I think we already said I love you at that point.
02:07But I was just like, I don't know, like maybe, I'm not sure.
02:12And you're like, well, I'm going to go to Madrid and I'm going to have fun.
02:17So let me know what you're thinking.
02:19And I was like, okay.
02:20They gave me a lot of shit because I'd be on my phone in class chatting with you or staying
02:25inside on Saturday nights because I was chatting with you.
02:29Like writing little emails to each other.
02:32They're so cute.
02:34Can't read them now.
02:35I know.
02:36Can't.
02:36And then you came over.
02:39I had never experienced it in my life.
02:41Just like dopamine, serotonin, like the best high.
02:44It was crazy.
02:45I'll never forget that.
02:46That was a cute moment.
02:47And then we made out with a taxi.
02:58After graduation was tough.
03:00Was there ever a time where you wanted to break up with me?
03:04Yeah, probably like we had trouble communicating for the first couple of years.
03:10I knew the things that we were dealing with could be remedied or solved if we just took
03:17enough time and attention to it.
03:19I think we relied on each other for a lot of ways.
03:21Like you were my family for a really long time because like my family is not open to, you
03:27know, me being gay.
03:28So I think that had a lot to do with it.
03:31Your family really opened up to me.
03:36So I don't want to get emotional.
03:39Oh, it's okay.
03:41But I think that was something that really, um, yeah, I think that pushed us to like work
03:49on our relationship too.
03:51Yeah.
03:52Yeah.
03:53Were there ever times you wanted to break up with me?
03:55Mm-hmm.
03:58Oh yeah?
04:00Oh, I'm surprised.
04:04Yeah.
04:05I'm just kidding.
04:06No, there were times because things would be hard and we were babies and didn't know how
04:12to communicate and didn't know how to resolve conflict and, you know, didn't know how to
04:17be vulnerable, didn't know how to let walls down and like all this stuff.
04:22That's cute when you're young and cute.
04:24But then when you're in a relationship, you have to be like, you have to work together.
04:28You can't work against someone you're trying to grow with or like be in a relationship with.
04:35How do you want me to grow as an individual?
04:37I think I just want you to maybe live more in the moment because I feel like sometimes
04:46you can get stuck in your head about things or people or decisions.
04:52You work in social media, so naturally you're on your phone, on your laptop a lot.
04:56Yeah, I agree.
04:57I agree.
04:57That's something I've been working on.
04:59I want you to set better boundaries with people.
05:02I think you have a really big heart.
05:05You easily forgive and maybe easily forget.
05:09And I think you need to remember a little bit more.
05:12Mm-hmm.
05:12Yeah.
05:18How do you want to grow together?
05:20Make this money.
05:23A lot of the time we're focusing on like developing how we communicate and talk to each other and work
05:31together.
05:31I feel like right now we're at a good place where we can shift our focus to like just building
05:37our businesses.
05:41Probably looking into buying a house or buying property somewhere.
05:45Gosh.
05:46Like actively considering it.
05:48Yeah, just like we're going to be 30 soon.
05:50Yeah.
05:50In 10 years I want to be out the city, upstate, on a farm.
05:57Where will I be?
05:58Where will you be?
06:00Hopefully there.
06:01We'll see.
06:01This question's about us.
06:03I don't know.
06:04Hopefully with me.
06:06Maybe a kid.
06:0810 years?
06:09Yeah.
06:10Maybe a kid.
06:10Yeah.
06:11Maybe.
06:11Probably a kid.
06:12Yeah.
06:13Kid or two.
06:14Yeah.
06:15That's really crazy to think about.
06:20How's it feel about love of black woman?
06:23It feels like home, you know?
06:25It feels safe.
06:25It feels easy.
06:26That's how we met too.
06:28Like at NYU.
06:29That's so true.
06:29Just being ourselves.
06:30You know, we're black, queer, and women.
06:33So we got like, we got a lot to deal with on a day-to-day basis.
06:38There's a lot of things that you understand about my experience in life without having to say anything.
06:45It feels like I have like, not my best friend.
06:49Like a partner in crime.
06:50Yeah.
06:50Like a partner in crime.
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