00:00Go ahead. You guys want to make a big deal about it? Make a big deal about it.
00:02Not even you guys. I don't think Owen's wanting to make a big deal about it.
00:05Yeah, I don't care at all.
00:06Yeah. Make a big deal about it. Tell me why I need to make a big deal about this.
00:09Okay. You can make whatever deal you want to about it, but it's pretty clear.
00:15He's doing the same thing he's always done. It's pretty clear he's doing the same exact thing he's always done.
00:18It's pretty clear, though, with a new head coach, new coaching staff, new defensive coordinator.
00:26I think it's pretty obvious he's sending a message now.
00:28What's the message?
00:30Well, that could be interpreted. It's something that I'm sure the team knows.
00:35I don't know if we know, right? Don't we think they've had conversations?
00:39I just saw somebody said he's now the 10th highest paid non-quarterback.
00:46If he wants out of here so bad.
00:48No, no. It might not be that. I'm just saying, at the very least, don't you think he probably wants
00:52to be the highest paid non-quarterback?
00:55Then that's fine, yeah.
00:56Do the Browns have to cave?
00:59To Miles.
01:00I mean, not necessarily.
01:01If that's what him and his agency has communicated.
01:04Because, obviously, we've talked about, does he want to be on the team?
01:07Does he not?
01:08He's publicly asked for a trade a year ago, but then got the contract.
01:11You know, we don't...
01:12So, what, now he's not going to show up just because he wants to be the highest paid player or
01:15highest paid defensive end?
01:16What's his lever to pull?
01:20Well, they can fine him $50,000 a day.
01:23They also have the option to waive that fine, if I'm not mistaken.
01:26So, I don't know how serious that...
01:28With Miles Garrett?
01:29No, they don't.
01:29They don't.
01:30They don't.
01:30So, he could just not show up until they get a deal signed.
01:33Will Anderson with the Texans got a $50 million a year deal.
01:38Miles is $40 million.
01:40So, this could just be a contracting.
01:42What I need to go back to was last year then.
01:45Now, I have to entertain the conversation.
01:48I didn't want to.
01:49I wanted to talk about what people were wearing at the game yesterday.
01:51We got Ken Carman.
01:53After refusing to talk about it.
01:55Do you...
01:55Let me go around the room here.
01:57Do you or do you not believe that last year then was all about money?
02:03Yes, I ended up thinking...
02:05Do you believe it was all about money?
02:06I think he'd like to be on a competitive team and he'd like it to be the Browns.
02:09But was it really all about money?
02:10I think that was the most important thing.
02:13Because, still, if it was about money, all you needed to do was say this is about money.
02:18I still don't understand it.
02:20All he had to say, I'm the greatest player on this defense.
02:24Didn't mean to say it like that.
02:26But I'm one of the greatest pass rushers in the NFL.
02:28Which means I'm one of the greatest pass rushers in NFL history.
02:31I want to be paid like it.
02:32I'm not showing up until I get paid.
02:33And people here would have just been like, pay him.
02:35Pay him what he wants.
02:37He really talked about the competitiveness of the team.
02:40So he sent the wrong message.
02:42I want to amend my answer.
02:44Yes, I think it was about money.
02:45But it was also his way to put whatever pressure a player on a team can put to say,
02:51Hey, I'm not going to be a part of a huge rebuild.
02:53So, I'm not going to sit here and revisit 0-16 and 1-15.
02:58That does nothing for any of us involved.
03:01You miss out on a chance to get value for me.
03:03This is why I get so effing frustrated by this.
03:05And I'm floundering.
03:05I've only played in three playoff games.
03:07I have one career sack in the postseason.
03:08This is why I get so frustrated about this.
03:10Do you not understand?
03:11Because I can't even tell whether or not it was all about money or whether it was about being on
03:15a competitive team.
03:16Because if it's about being on a competitive team, I hate to be that guy because I know it's certainly
03:21more intricate than that.
03:22But, hey, man, you signed the deal.
03:23I understand that there's other things to it.
03:26But you signed the deal.
03:27That's the deal you signed.
03:28And you could always go out and get more money.
03:30Because to me, it doesn't matter.
03:31I don't care.
03:32He's the best defensive player in the league.
03:34He is literally the best defensive player in the league.
03:36So, pay him.
03:37If he wants to get paid more than Will Anderson, pay him more than Will Anderson.
03:40I don't give a bleep.
03:42I'm trying not to cuss.
03:43But if it comes down to playing on a competitive team, then you went about this wrong last year.
03:47Or you did the wrong thing last year.
03:49And if we're just going to do it again this year where you're not happy.
03:51Well, I'm sorry, buddy.
03:52You ain't been happy with the Cleveland Browns for damn near a decade.
03:54You ain't going to be happy.
03:55So, you might as well just show up to work.
03:57And now you got me saying things I didn't even want to talk about.
03:59See, that's what gets me really good and pissed.
04:02Thanks a lot.
04:03If I'm Miles Garrett, I mean, seriously, try to put yourself in Miles Garrett's shoes in a situation like this.
04:11You're probably thinking, man, everybody tells me how our owner has endless money.
04:16And it's a strategic advantage to circumvent the salary cap.
04:20They gave all the guaranteed money to a quarterback who's not even going to play.
04:25Or if he does play, the fans don't want to see him play.
04:28Either way, he's just keeping the seat warm for the next quarterback, whether it's Shador or whoever's coming next year.
04:34If you're Miles Garrett, you're thinking, I just set the sack record.
04:37I'm going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
04:39I may be the best defensive player in the history of the game when it's all said and done.
04:43Or at least the most accomplished in the regular season.
04:46Do you understand why him and his team might be like, yeah, rip up my contract again.
04:51Let's go.
04:52Like, let's go.
04:53I should be the highest paid player.
04:54In fact, I should be paid more than a lot of the quarterbacks in a league.
04:57That's how valuable I am.
04:58Okay, but again, what makes it so frustrating for me is that he's never changed.
05:04He's always been this way.
05:05He's always going to be this way.
05:07So we're just going to have this conversation again next year and the year after that.
05:11Until they actually do trade the guy.
05:13Unless they're good.
05:13We'll have that conversation.
05:15Unless they're good.
05:15Unless they're good.
05:16Unless they're whatever.
05:17When are they going to be good?
05:18Are they going to be that good this year?
05:19No.
05:20Are they going to be that good this year?
05:23I'm asking.
05:24Okay, so they're not.
05:25So we're going to have this conversation again next year, right?
05:28Okay, good.
05:28At least I got something to look forward to.
05:30Unless he's traded already.
05:31Oh my God.
05:33He just does what.
05:34I don't think.
05:36I just don't think he needs to have stupid, silly Instagram messages.
05:40And if that's his whole entire case, then fine.
05:43I guess you're winning, man.
05:44I just.
05:44I would much.
05:45Does he not understand the power that he possesses?
05:48All you have to do is say you want more money.
05:51That's exactly what he's doing.
05:52Just say it.
05:53Then just say it.
05:54Instead of having.
05:55Well, he did that and he got paid for it.
05:57Because it's just so.
05:58No.
05:58Did he?
05:59By who?
06:00Not by me.
06:01By everyone.
06:02For what?
06:03On Radio Row.
06:04I don't care about Radio Row.
06:06I don't give an F about any of those other teams.
06:08I care about our team.
06:10I understand.
06:11I'm not yelling at you.
06:12I'm yelling at the situation.
06:13I apologize.
06:14I know you're a 12-year Air Force vet and I respect you.
06:17So maybe the cat tiger got out of the cage a little bit there.
06:19I ain't yelling at you.
06:20I'm yelling at the situation because this is damn dumb.
06:24He understands he's the second most powerful.
06:26He is literally the second most powerful player in this city.
06:29Number one is Jose.
06:30He's number two.
06:31So you can say if you just wanted more money, ask for more money.
06:35They're going to give you more money.
06:37This is what I'm bothered by.
06:39So now every single offseason, I have to have these stupid conversations about what he needs
06:44and what he doesn't.
06:45And what they'll do is they'll take a video.
06:47They'll put it up.
06:47Then we'll get cussed out for not either not talking about the Cavs when they're in the
06:50postseason, even though we have been spending three hours today talking about the Cavs because
06:54they're in the postseason.
06:54But no one really cares because they're only playing Toronto and everybody wants to be
06:57right instead of being Cavs fans.
06:59And the other thing is we'll just keep getting hammered for talking about the same guy in
07:02the same situation that he keeps putting us in every single damn year.
07:06And it's hard for me to tell you to don't let the door hit you in the ass on the
07:09way
07:09out because he's the best defensive player that's ever played for this football team.
07:13So I can't tell him that.
07:14So I guess we'll just continue to go around and around and around we go until he's actually
07:19done playing football in Cleveland.
07:21Because this is dumb.
07:23This is stupid.
07:24You understand this is stupid, right?
07:26Yeah, you're nodding your head this is stupid.
07:28You're telling me to wrap it up because we got Chris joining us.
07:30I know.
07:30I just like that you said it's damn dumb.
07:32Because it's damn dumb.
07:33That's why.
07:34Every single summer.
07:36Every summer.
07:37And I'm getting sick and tired of it.
07:39I just wonder what Todd thinks about all this.
07:42New head coach.
07:42Probably wants a buy-in from his best player.
07:45You know what?
07:45Sometimes a photo.
07:47Did you guys ever think that a photo of your luggage leaving is just a photo of you leaving?
07:53Does everything have to have some secret meaning?
07:56I think Miles enjoys the conversation too.
07:58Why?
07:58I mean, he absolutely does.
08:00Why would he?
08:01Because I think by now people know that he's the best to do it.
08:05He might be one of the best to ever do it on defense.
08:07It's just going to be great getting cussed out all day after this.
08:10Because I know it's going to happen.
08:11It's going to be awesome.
08:12But I'm just like, just be clear.
08:14If you don't want to be here, just say it.
08:16Because if you don't want to be here, there will be teams lining up around the block to get you.
08:20And then we can go ahead and we can name our price.
08:22If you want to get paid, just say it.
08:25And they'll pay you more money.
08:28That's all there is.
08:29I don't need to interpret stupid.
08:31This is why I get mad.
08:32I don't need to interpret stupid Instagram pictures.
08:34It wasn't even stupid.
08:35I don't need to have stupid conversations about Instagram pictures.
08:38There we are.
08:39That's what I'm saying.
08:40I don't need to interpret, well, does he?
08:42He's going to be here for a basketball game.
08:44He's not going to be here for a basketball game.
08:45Is he in town today?
08:47Well, why is he not in town?
08:48And then you're the ones sitting there going, well, if he's able to go to a basketball game on Saturday,
08:51he's not able to go to voluntary workouts.
08:52And it has to mean something.
08:53No, it doesn't mean anything.
08:55It's just nice if he could meet the coach.
08:57I'm sure he's met the coach in some fashion.
09:01Chris, what?
09:02In the current capacity.
09:03We know he was in town.
09:05Did he meet the coach?
09:06That's all I need.
09:06Yeah.
09:07Be nice to have a picture of the two of them.
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