00:00I did go back and check out what the awards were.
00:02Miles Garrett won two, and it was weird to watch him.
00:06Is there cash?
00:07I don't know.
00:08Do you think there was cash on the self-serving awards?
00:13It's okay that they're self-serving, by the way.
00:15Yeah, I didn't.
00:16I'm not questioning that.
00:18But Miles Garrett won a couple awards last night.
00:20Yeah, it's very nice.
00:21And good for him.
00:23I'm excited.
00:24It was just weird that when you see Miles, it says best NFL player, right?
00:30That was Miles Garrett.
00:32And then it said Los Angeles Rams after it.
00:35I'm like, um, um, really?
00:39That's all right.
00:40Record-breaking performance.
00:42Where he is now.
00:42He also won that.
00:44Yeah.
00:44Yeah, but he didn't win it as a member of the Rams.
00:46He won it as a member of the Browns.
00:48Oh, but do you identify him in the present or in the past?
00:52I don't know.
00:54When you win best NFL player for last year, isn't it for being for the Cleveland Browns?
00:58Well, but he's not on the Browns now.
01:01But he hasn't played it down.
01:03Do you understand what I'm saying?
01:04Yeah, but if you're going to put an identifier.
01:06Well, and then I'm like.
01:07You know, it's like you wouldn't.
01:09If you had to put a graphic up on me, you wouldn't put KJAC TV.
01:13I might put former.
01:16Maybe.
01:17So you look at Miles Garrett.
01:19And then you could put former Cleveland Brown, but then the folks in L.A.
01:22I mean, where were the awards?
01:24How can you?
01:25Where were the awards?
01:26They were in L.A., right?
01:27Yeah.
01:28Well, there's your big hug.
01:29Oh, I guess so.
01:30Look who we have now.
01:31Yay!
01:33Which is okay.
01:34The first question I kept asking myself is, how was he really the best NFL player last
01:40year?
01:41I asked myself that last time.
01:42I was like, okay, I get it.
01:45His team won five games last year.
01:48Was he really the best player in the NFL last year?
01:50Listen, Baskin.
01:52Yeah?
01:52Quit letting the facts get in the way of a great TV show.
01:56His team won five games last year.
02:00Dan.
02:01Five.
02:02Dan.
02:02He's dealing in facts.
02:04He's the best player in the NFL?
02:06He's dealing in facts.
02:08Dan.
02:08He didn't get the script.
02:10I didn't vote on this damn thing.
02:11I can't tell you.
02:12I'll give you the best record-breaking performance.
02:15Yeah.
02:15Oh, yeah, absolutely.
02:17NFL single-season sack record.
02:18Yeah, I'll give that to you.
02:19Big.
02:20It's much bigger than big.
02:23Is Miles Garrett really the best player in the NFL?
02:26I think there's a case to be made for that.
02:28Yes.
02:29Okay.
02:30But shouldn't you have to win more than five games as a team?
02:36Haven't I been told my whole life that this is the ultimate team game?
02:40Well, it probably is the ultimate team game.
02:44An individual performance.
02:45I don't know.
02:46You know what?
02:46I think they got it right with best soccer player.
02:49Messi proved that yesterday, didn't he?
02:51Two assists.
02:53He proved that.
02:54I'm down with it.
02:55No, I'm not watching.
02:56He's not the best soccer player in the world, and it's frankly kind of sad that we're doing
03:00this, but nonetheless.
03:01Wow.
03:01So they were 0 for 2.
03:03Is Jalen Brunson the best NBA player?
03:05Again, I didn't vote on these damn things.
03:07I'm just asking, who's the most popular player at the moment?
03:11You're the best player in your sport.
03:14I'm making up arbitrary awards and handing them out.
03:18Who's in the current news cycle?
03:19You're the best.
03:21And now our award for best player of making fans hold their breath.
03:26Congratulations.
03:27LeBron James.
03:31Akron, Ohio.
03:34St. Vincent, St. Mary.
03:35You know what's going to happen today, don't you?
03:37It's going to break today?
03:39The smoke is going to clear.
03:41Literally, around town?
03:42And he will have a team.
03:44Is that why all the smoke is out there this morning?
03:46Exactly right.
03:47Or is that the Canadians?
03:48No.
03:49It's exactly right.
03:50This is Canadian smoke, by the way.
03:51Wildfires.
03:52I'm having trouble breathing this morning.
03:53Wildfires for LeBron signing.
03:55That's what it is?
03:56The smoke will clear, and emerging from the smoke will be a team.
04:03So let me go back to Miles Garrett here.
04:05My friend.
04:09And I laugh at the thought that he's the best NFL player.
04:12I think he's a great player.
04:13The ESPYs were in New York, apparently.
04:15Oh, they were in New York?
04:16Did you get corrected on that?
04:17Yeah.
04:18My buddy Jeff in Cleveland.
04:19They've been in L.A., though.
04:20Jeff listens a lot.
04:21It's really nice of him.
04:23That makes sense why LeBron is in New York, too.
04:24Jeff, thank you very much.
04:26LeBron's got, what, two podcasts coming up.
04:30That's why, another reason we think he might make a decision.
04:33But there was something that Mary Kay Cabot said this morning on the morning show.
04:38Yeah.
04:38Big show they had this morning.
04:40About Miles Garrett.
04:42Yep.
04:42What did she say?
04:43And his current situation now that he's in L.A.
04:46This is what Mary Kay said this morning.
04:49Last night at the ESPYs, there seemed to be a nice moment between Miles Garrett and Shador Sanders.
04:55I don't know.
04:55Was Shador up for any awards or anything?
04:57I don't know.
04:57I didn't watch it.
04:58Why would I watch that?
04:59They had a nice moment there that was captured by, I think, Shador's video team.
05:05Do you think, Mary Kay, if Shador had played better, that Miles Garrett is still a Cleveland Brown today?
05:11Oh, that's hard to say because I think that Miles was going for something more than a quarterback playing better
05:18than he played last year.
05:20Miles was going for the bright lights and the big city and a chance at the Super Bowl and all
05:25of those kinds of things.
05:26And I still don't think that that was going to be enough to make him want to stay here.
05:32Kay.
05:34So, you tell me, when you heard that, what did you think?
05:37Like, I thought the Rams made an offer and the Browns accepted and Miles said yes.
05:44That's what I thought, too.
05:45Yeah.
05:46That they were able to have an understanding a year ago.
05:50Because I was, like, ready.
05:51When Miles said he wanted out and went on press row during the Super Bowl two years ago.
05:57And told everybody he was toast.
05:58And he was out of here.
05:59I'm done.
06:00So, like, he came back and played an entire season with that on his mind?
06:05And maybe that's why he set the single-season sack record?
06:09Well, if that was the inspiration he needed, congratulations.
06:14Yeah.
06:15Look, I don't have any ill will toward Miles if he wanted to move on.
06:21You know, the Browns gave him a great contract.
06:23Okay.
06:24Well, you can trade that great contract.
06:26And they did.
06:27And I don't have any ill will toward the Browns for trading him.
06:30I think the Browns, I honestly think the Browns made a great move for the future of their franchise by
06:38trading Miles while he still had great value.
06:41And I would assume he still has great value for a couple of more years.
06:45But, you know, sorry, when you, your magic number in football, especially for the Browns, starts with a three.
06:52And when you get to that number, your value goes down each and every year.
06:57And I think the Browns, if you needed to move on from Miles, if the opportunity to move on from
07:03Miles, perhaps set yourself up to get your franchise quarterback in 2027.
07:08If all that presented itself while also putting in a two-time pro bowler in two NFL seasons to take
07:13Miles' spot, if that all presented itself, good for the Browns.
07:18And good for Miles, if this is what he wants.
07:20I mean, this could be a real win-win deal.
07:22I don't have any ill will about that.
07:24And if Mary Kay's on the money, and I'm sure she is, that's all fine.
07:29That's fine.
07:31Does this change your perspective on Miles Garrett and, you know, the way this thing ended?
07:38216-474-0092.
07:40216-474-0092.
07:42Was he just ready to leave and didn't want to be here, and it became so much more obvious, and
07:48that's why he's gone?
07:49And we all kind of felt like the team maybe circled back around and was waiting for that.
07:55Like, I have a little, it clouds up my thoughts on Miles and what he did here and his legacy
08:03that he leaves at Cleveland.
08:04And, you know, Mary Kay Cabot basically alluded to the fact that he wanted the bright lights, he wanted the
08:10big city, and was just ready to roll.
08:13And I go back to wonder what was the conversation a year before when LeBron said he, or, sorry, when
08:20Miles said he was leaving, wanted to leave, was at, like, both feet out the door.
08:26And, you know, they turned around and they're like, no, no, no, no, we figured this out, and he came
08:30back for another season and had a great season.
08:33I mean, he had a great individual season last year.
08:36Set the single-season sack record.
08:38You cannot take that away from him, and you cannot look away from the impact.
08:43It was the reason we watched.
08:45Yeah, it was fun.
08:46Towards the end of the year because that five-win team didn't make the playoffs.
08:50That would be correct.
08:51So it's just that on top of the ESPYs last night, you know, where, you know, he came out and
08:59won two ESPYs last year.
09:00And I was just kind of like, I don't know.
09:02I just, you know, he won best NFL player.
09:05He won best record-breaking performance at the ESPYs yesterday.
09:08Yeah, but that means nothing.
09:10I know it doesn't mean anything.
09:10It doesn't mean anything.
09:11It's just a show.
09:12You know what it is?
09:13It's like ESPN having a big party to say, look, we're ESPN.
09:18Which is okay.
09:19Yeah.
09:19And then also, I mean, there's three reasons that that thing kind of exists, right?
09:24One, it's self-serving for ESPN.
09:26It's a giant commercial.
09:28Two, it's the opportunity for all these athletes to get together, especially across sports, where you don't really have that
09:35opportunity anywhere else.
09:37And three, it gives us news on a day where there's very little news.
09:42It's the day after that.
09:43If you want to call it news.
09:44Well, it's self-created news.
09:47I don't consider it news.
09:51It's just an organization that has a little show.
09:54To me, that's it.
09:59So, I just, what Mary Kay said, and again, I'm just kind of like, all right, if he wanted the
10:06bright lights, he wanted the big city, like, I don't understand why the Browns, unless they just felt like they
10:10couldn't get an offer for him a year ago.
10:12Why didn't they do this a year ago?
10:15Like, why didn't the Browns trade him a year earlier?
10:18Got me.
10:19Maybe they didn't hear what they wanted to hear.
10:20That's, I mean, that's...
10:22Or maybe they, you know, maybe they had no desire to trade him at that point.
10:26Dan, can we play the cut one more time just for Mary Kay, just to kind of refresh everybody on
10:30what we're talking about?
10:31And I don't know, it was a little bit of perspective.
10:33It was on the morning show this morning.
10:34Last night at the ESPYs, there seemed to be a nice moment between Myles Garrett and Shador Sanders.
10:41I don't know, was Shador up for any awards or anything?
10:43I don't know.
10:43I didn't watch it.
10:44Why would I watch that?
10:45They had a nice moment there that was captured by, I think, Shador's video team.
10:50Do you think, Mary Kay, if Shador had played better, that Myles Garrett is still a Cleveland Brown today?
10:57Oh, that's hard to say, because I think that Myles was going for something more than a quarterback playing better
11:04than he played last year.
11:06Myles was going for the bright lights and the big city and a chance at the Super Bowl and all
11:11of those kinds of things.
11:12And I still don't think that that was going to be enough to make him want to stay here.
11:17But they're saying that.
11:18That makes me wonder if they got Myles to settle down the year before by saying, look, we'll trade you
11:27at the end of the season.
11:28We know if what Mary Kay is saying is right about bright lights, big city.
11:32I mean, there's really L.A., New York.
11:36If that were completely the case, he probably wouldn't have signed the extension.
11:42Unless he was like, I want the money.
11:45Who could blame him for that?
11:47Yeah, so it just makes me wonder, you know, the year before where he made all this, the big stink
11:53about wanting to leave.
11:54Was it about, what was it about?
11:57Like, was it about the money?
11:58I guess so.
11:59Because he stayed for the money.
12:01Or was it about the bright lights, big city?
12:03Does it matter?
12:06In some way.
12:07I don't think this matters.
12:09If he wanted out, that's okay.
12:12I mean, I won't say he earned the right, but he signed his contract, so he was here.
12:19And if his agent went to the Browns and said, if something comes up, we'd be open to it, that's
12:26okay.
12:27I guess the one thing is...
12:28I think the Browns made out well in that trade.
12:31I really do.
12:32And I don't have any qualms, if Miles wanted to move on, he played great here for a long time.
12:40And that's fine.
12:42And if he wanted to move on, that's fine.
12:45And the Browns did a fine job of trading him and getting quality in return.
12:50I guess if you want to give...
12:54There are two things here.
12:55One, that you're looking at it from the perspective of, well, wait a minute, the Browns traded Miles.
13:00It wasn't like it was on Miles.
13:02Now, it sounds like it was on Miles.
13:04But if you go back a year earlier, what it appears to be was calmer heads prevailed.
13:13The Browns were able to talk Miles into, we'll give you the more money, you stay another year.
13:18And what the Browns really did was buy leverage back to be able to trade him to be able...
13:23Because if they would have traded him a year ago, they may not have got what they wanted
13:27because it was either Miles sitting out or Miles not playing.
13:30Because he was campaigning?
13:30Yeah.
13:31Yeah.
13:31So I think the campaign took some of the leverage away from the Browns.
13:34So, I mean, even for a five-win team, I think you've got to give them a little credit.
13:38I think you've got to give the organization a little credit on that.
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