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02:50Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago.
02:52And those of you who are locked on globally, of course, this is Beyond the Tape
02:55and I'm your host, Whitney Husbands.
02:56Now, today is the 1st of April.
02:58We have officially entered a new month of 2026, April to be exact.
03:02And it's a short, extremely short work week, getting ready for the long weekend ahead.
03:07And today, we are smack in the middle of the week, so that means only one thing.
03:10It's all about the legal minds coming together.
03:13Even though you may not be an official legal mind, we make you feel like that.
03:16And with that, we have our tenured law who is always present here on a Wednesday
03:21to give us the information that's needed and for us to understand the laws of the land
03:25and, of course, our rights as well.
03:27I'd like to welcome Tahir Ali with us this evening, of course.
03:31And he is also the Director of Policy and Community Support of the Ministry of Homeland Security.
03:36Good evening to you, Mr. Ali.
03:38It's indeed a pleasure and honor.
03:39Yes.
03:39Thank you very much for your warm welcome.
03:41And I deserve that warm welcome today.
03:44I had a marathon day today.
03:47Lots of meetings.
03:48Lots of planning for some very important and sensitive engagements with members of the public.
03:54And I'll share that any days ahead.
03:57But thank you very much for the warm welcome.
04:00I must also indicate that when you spoke about the legal minds,
04:04and I'll attribute that this afternoon to the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago,
04:08legal minds directed in the context of a sincere undertaking to uphold the rule of law.
04:16So, you know, I want to actually be that legal mind that you spoke about this afternoon,
04:20recognizing that, you know, that we are governed by the rule of law,
04:23and it's important for us to continue to behave properly, conduct ourselves properly.
04:27So I want to thank you very much for using those terms this afternoon.
04:30And, you know, I just decided to apply it in a wider context.
04:33But as always, it's a pleasure to join you this afternoon.
04:35And, you know, as always, keep up the good work that you're doing.
04:38Jackie and other members on the Beyond the Tape family,
04:42you know, I want to recognize you all as well, you know,
04:44with the perseverance, the dedication, as always.
04:48This citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago, very close to me, very close to my heart.
04:53And, you know, I'm looking forward to engage you this afternoon as well,
04:56and, you know, to hear from you as well.
04:58And also, the law enforcement agencies with me.
05:01It's always important to recognize them.
05:03I know a lot is happening in Trinidad and Tobago.
05:05We are also seeing law enforcement officers who are being placed before the course of Trinidad and Tobago,
05:10which is not a good feeling,
05:13but on the other hand, it's a good feeling where the TTPS is holding persons who are bent on breaching
05:19the rule of law.
05:20And I don't want to say too much because these matters are subjudice.
05:22They are now before the course of Trinidad and Tobago.
05:24But, you know, I want to just say that when you, as a law enforcement agency,
05:28when you are seeing things like this happening,
05:30it's important for every single rank and file to do a reflection
05:35and see whether, in fact, you are acting properly.
05:37Or if you are not acting properly,
05:40it's a good time to check yourself and make some adjustments.
05:43Because at the end of the day, you have taken a oath to protect the people of Trinidad and Tobago.
05:46And, you know, you need to recognize how important that duty and responsibility is.
05:51So I thought it was important that I should share those introductory remarks.
05:54But I'll see your best I can assist you as we go forward this afternoon.
05:57Yes, of course.
05:57Now, we are seeing a lot of RTs that were taking place and the behavior of persons on the roadways.
06:02And with that being said, we have our very own Officer Batson,
06:06who was giving information to the public.
06:08That was very vital.
06:09And, of course, to assist the TTPS as they move forward.
06:12Now, they're going to have some new road safety tech that will be introduced.
06:16Now, the Road Safety Coordinator with the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service,
06:20Brent Batson, has announced that new technology will be deployed to improve road safety.
06:27He said a widespread and intense public road safety campaign is on its way,
06:32noting that while 2026 has so far shown 33% reduction in road traffic accidents,
06:39the public and state agencies cannot be complacent.
06:43He announced that the next week, the TTPS will introduce new technology in the road traffic safety,
06:49including new speed traps.
06:51He also advised that the public will see a new level of presence on the highways ahead of the long
06:57Easter weekend.
06:58So, I mean, the officers are out and about.
07:01We saw some tragic accidents that took place, Mr. Ali, and it was very disturbing.
07:06Well, you know, Whitney, I want to, you know, embrace the initiatives using technology
07:11to be able to assist in road safety and security.
07:13And I think it's, you know, it's always welcome when you are dealing with this area of road traffic accidents.
07:20But I want to say, and I've said it before, and, you know, probably you're a good self as well,
07:25but I've made mention to it.
07:28So, there's a very important element, and the very important element is being self-conscious.
07:34But I always said that when you take charge of a vehicle, understand that you are taking charge of a
07:41vehicle,
07:42that if you are not careful, can cost you your life or could cost other persons their lives.
07:47And most important is that the vehicle, that's a weapon if you are not careful.
07:52So, even before we embark on technology to be able to detect these offenses
07:56or to be able to have a deeper level of enforcement to protect the general public,
08:02which I welcome and salute, you know, I want to urge upon every single driver.
08:06Every time I get the opportunity, I will speak until you become conscious
08:10that when you are taking charge of a vehicle, when you are responsible of a vehicle,
08:16understand the significant importance behind that vehicle.
08:20And the other things that one will, for example,
08:26consuming a dangerous drug or alcohol beyond the limits,
08:31those things are very significant in terms of you could impair your judgment
08:35on how you handle a vehicle.
08:36So, I say all that to say this, that the level of self-responsibility is critically important
08:42and you must want to see your family members, you must want to reach home.
08:46And may I say that persons who may be passengers in vehicles,
08:48for example, our wife, our son, our daughter, even in the public context,
08:53passengers who are traveling, don't be afraid to remind the driver,
08:57that driver, you are not driving for yourself, you are driving for all of us.
09:00And if it becomes so grievous, ask the driver to stop that vehicle and step out.
09:05So, you know, these are some of the bold steps that we need to take
09:10if we want to be able to look at this issue of road safety and security.
09:12And, you know, there are many dimensions in terms of infrastructure as well,
09:15but I will also say in terms of some vehicles as well,
09:19I know that we had a crackdown recently in terms of fixed penalty notices and offenses,
09:24but it's important for us to also appreciate that sometimes vehicles may not be proper
09:28for the roadway of Trinidad and Tobago.
09:30So, there are a number of things that we need to look at,
09:32but I think that that's self-responsibility.
09:34I want to engage that area significantly this afternoon,
09:39but, you know, hats off, sorry, to Mr. Batson and the TTPS and other agencies
09:44who are looking to use technology to assist in promoting road safety and security,
09:48based on what you have just read.
09:49Of course, you will dive in into that and more right now.
09:51Let's take a look at what's making today's update.
09:54As of the 1st of April, 2026.
09:58Number of operations, 2,556.
10:01Number of targets, priority offenders, 951.
10:05Searches conducted, 1,834.
10:09Traffic operations, 1,415.
10:12Total persons arrested, 1,085.
10:17Total persons charged, 238.
10:21Firearms recovered, we're seeing increase again with the pistols,
10:24giving us a total of 73.
10:26Ammunition recovered, an increase with the rounds of 9mm rounds,
10:31giving us a total of 1,563.
10:34And dangerous drug sees, we're seeing increase with the cocaine,
10:39and that is where we are thus far.
10:42Mr. Ali?
10:43Yeah, and, you know, when you're seeing 34 pistols, you know, the number in red,
10:47I mean, that's concerning, very, very concerning.
10:50And, you know, while we are retrieving a lot of firearms,
10:53and in some cases, persons arrested,
10:54the fact that we are still finding these firearms, pistols, rifles,
10:57as the case may be, is worrying.
11:00It's concerning in terms of the porous borders,
11:06and even in some cases, you know, lawful,
11:09and ports of entry as well, because we have seen that.
11:12So it's important for us to look at this in a critical,
11:15with some critical eyes, and, you know,
11:17really see if we can really secure why we are retrieving,
11:21because we have always said it,
11:23if you are retrieving, but there are porous borders,
11:26then, you know, it's a evolving door.
11:28And, you know, what's the...
11:29But it's up in mud.
11:30That's correct.
11:30So when you've seen those numbers continue to increase,
11:34it is worrying, and, you know,
11:36I always want to see if the evidence is there
11:40to have persons responsible for it.
11:42I think that the human element is a critical element,
11:44and I want to urge the police officers to do diligent inquiry.
11:47So we might get a firearm now,
11:49but if you do diligent inquiry,
11:50you may just get put in an intelligence
11:52that could be converted to prosecute persons
11:54for these firearms that we are seeing on the nation's road.
11:56Well said.
11:57Right now, let's take a look at what's making today's headlines.
12:33And those are the stories making today's headlines.
12:35We'll take that short break.
12:36We'll be back.
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15:02And welcome back.
15:04It's Igaly Speaking Wednesdays.
15:05We have Mr. Ali here with us.
15:06And we were speaking earlier when we opened, Mr. Ali, with regards to a lot of the RTs
15:11that we saw happening last month, literally, we have to say that.
15:14Today is the 1st of April.
15:16Yes.
15:16And we saw RT that happened around 9 a.m. this morning.
15:20Let's take a look at this.
15:25Now, also, we're seeing here, Mr. Ali, the importance of having a dash cam.
15:31And if you were able to afford it, I think I should invest in one,
15:34just for safety purposes.
15:35Yeah, yeah.
15:36You know?
15:37It's important.
15:38It's important for surveillance and, you know, other safety issues,
15:42once it's properly managed as well.
15:44Yes.
15:46Now, we're seeing what is about to happen here.
15:51Not paying attention.
15:55And I think persons, Mr. Ali, you could correct me if I'm wrong.
16:00They don't really understand the importance of slowing down at a particular distance.
16:09They believe by just either mashing brakes or you're not paying attention in your vehicle.
16:13Remember, we are just assuming here.
16:16We're assuming things.
16:18And this was in a sudden stop from the other drivers.
16:21He had sufficient time or she to slow down.
16:25Yeah, it's important, you know, to look at this in context as well.
16:27And, you know, with me, I'll say that this accident here, you know,
16:30I had a meeting that was scheduled to start at 11 a.m. this morning.
16:33Yes.
16:33And at least three or four of the key stakeholders were caught in this traffic
16:38that went for, you know, several hours.
16:40So, you know, it shows that irresponsible behavior on the nation road, you know,
16:47has overarching impact in terms of person's freedom of movement
16:52because it ended up in traffic congestion and other issues.
16:55But, you know, I hope that the persons who may be involved in this accident,
16:59I hope that, you know, it's nothing serious, you know, and, you know,
17:03they can return to their family.
17:04But the need to drive it, you can attention.
17:07And I heard that you spoke about it a while ago.
17:10It's something that we don't pay attention to.
17:12But in the regulations, in the motor vehicle, in that legal framework,
17:18you must be exercising or keeping a reasonable distance.
17:22Free car distances.
17:23That's correct.
17:23And I don't think we understand that.
17:25At least.
17:25Yes.
17:25Free car distances.
17:26Yeah, I don't think we understand.
17:28And I'll get the exact distance.
17:30But you have to keep a safe and a reasonable distance.
17:33So this culture that we have, that even in what we are seeing there,
17:37that you want to always be up on somebody.
17:40Right, on somebody's back.
17:40Yeah.
17:41If a sudden break or something happens, you don't have time to move over the vehicle.
17:45So that is something that is very critical.
17:46And for all the motorists, understand that you must be keeping a reasonable distance
17:51when you are following vehicles.
17:52And also when you are approaching an intersection.
17:54While this may not have been an intersection,
17:55I always said that even if the light is green and you are approaching an intersection,
17:59it's an intersection.
18:01Approach it with due care and attention.
18:02And then lastly, in relation to this here, this appeared to be, you spoke about what,
18:079 a.m. any morning?
18:08Yes, after 9.
18:09Right.
18:09If you look at the, and this is where you have to have some intelligence,
18:139 a.m. any morning on a Wednesday morning.
18:16Yes.
18:17You are going to expect that flow, but not the flow that you will be expecting.
18:22Correct.
18:22So if you notice, that's correct.
18:24So even your speed, even if the roadway gives you opportunity to drive at 100.
18:30Yes.
18:30In this situation here where the build up on that morning, you may be having to revert
18:34to 55, 65.
18:36You know, just to ensure that, you know, you can move over the vehicle.
18:38But very unfortunate situation.
18:40And I hope that, you know, we really take these reminders to be responsible on the road.
18:46Well, the officer was there, so it is something where, too, I think people also panic when
18:52they see officers on the shoulder.
18:54Yes.
18:54I don't know if they believe they have the speed gun.
18:56So they try to reduce the speed as quickly as possible before they reach the officer.
19:01Yes.
19:01And you could cause unnecessary accidents, right?
19:03That's correct.
19:03Now, let's take a look at this video here.
19:06This is a location unknown.
19:07So it seems to be in the Southland, but pay attention here because I'm seeing the maxi
19:14Jesus Christ.
19:14This is usually the case here.
19:17Zero patience.
19:20Zero.
19:21It seems like from what we are just witnessing from this short clip, the maxi taxi was trying
19:26to overtake the truck because I don't want to be behind.
19:31Who likes to be behind a truck?
19:33Well, look at this solid white line here, Whitney.
19:36So you're wrong.
19:36Right?
19:37So, I mean, and this is where I'm saying that, you know, when you look at most if not
19:43all accidents, and that is why you are normally called upon to report the accident.
19:48Yes.
19:49So that an investigation can be done.
19:51Most of the times, you'll recognize that there's some negligence in observing the road
19:59traffic regulations, and, you know, it's just unfortunate.
20:02And I'm just saying that, what else can you tell drivers, Whitney?
20:07What else can you tell them?
20:08And I now made mention that when you're stepping into a vehicle and you're going on a public
20:12road, want to reach home.
20:15Yeah.
20:15Want to reach your destination safely.
20:16And understand that you are engaged in a very serious mission.
20:20Yeah, but it's a reckless drive, Mr. Ali.
20:22Well, of course.
20:23You're a taxi driver, you have passengers in your vehicle, persons could have been injured,
20:28and, you know, it takes a while for a truck to even slow down, far less tough.
20:33You took that risk?
20:34You so want to get a passenger?
20:36If that is the case, I'm just saying.
20:38And it's so sad.
20:39It's so sad.
20:41It's so sad.
20:41It's inconvenient.
20:42So many people, your passengers, your driver, your red vehicle, your truck, and then traffic.
20:47And, you know, Whitney, I will make a statement, and, you know, I don't know how the public
20:50may feel about it, but...
20:51Use your legal terms.
20:52Yeah, well, I mean, I'm a citizen of this country as well, and, you know, that's probably
20:57someone's family proceeding in the opposite direction.
21:00And someone, you know, and I hope that they didn't get a call saying, you know what,
21:05you know, you lost your loved one, or your loved one is injured and hospitalized because
21:09of a reckless driver.
21:11But I'm saying that in this context here, you see how that maxi driver was going along
21:18that roadway in terms of the breaches of the traffic sign?
21:21If that matter is investigated properly, that is one of the situations, in my view, that
21:25that driver, there should be an immediate suspension of that driver's permit, and don't
21:32wait for a point system, because he will do it again, or she will do it again.
21:37So I think that that's a situation where that person has demonstrated you do not deserve
21:41to be on the roads of Trinidad and Tobago, because you are a risk, and you spoke about
21:46legal minds.
21:47I just took the concept of legal minds, that you are a driver.
21:52However, comply with the road traffic regulations, and if you are not willing to comply with
21:58it, then you're not in, you're not deserving of a driver's permit to be on the road and
22:02to be among us, simply put.
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25:19Welcome, Mark.
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25:25We have a caller on hold at this time.
25:27Caller, good evening.
25:29Good evening, Ms. Whitney.
25:30Good evening.
25:31Good evening.
25:31Good evening.
25:32Good evening to you, sir.
25:35Director, this evening I am going to pick up the Commissioner of Police.
25:39I saw him at a Baptist Dysfunction in Vancouver, where he apologized to the mistreatment of the Baptist,
25:52shelter-baptist religion by the TTPS.
25:58I am saying that he has to go further, and I want, and I'm hoping to listen to go back
26:07in history.
26:14It is alleged that the police was used to persecute and target East Indians from voting against the Eric Williams
26:28Party.
26:29I am getting into the direct workings of the TTPS, and I am going to the Selwyn Ryan report investigation,
26:42where he said in his report, and I am going to read some of the things, where he said the
26:50East Indian in the police service
26:56has been misrepresented, and the promotion of East Indians, or the ethnic, he used the ethnic word instead of East
27:07Indians,
27:07but I am using the East Indian, the East Indian, right, okay, the East Indian was targeted,
27:16and then there is a disparity within the promotional process of the TTPS,
27:23and I'm hoping that he addressed that, and he basically apologized to that section of our community.
27:30This would require a great chapel, poise, and execution of the on-drive,
27:40because it's a swinging yoke I placed at your foot today.
27:44Go on, have a nice evening.
27:46All right. Thank you, Kuala.
27:48Some very serious precedent.
27:49Yes, yes, yes, from 1961 to 1996.
27:54And the word, you know, that terminology, a yoke, it's indeed a yoke I call.
27:57I think that those comments are very sensitive comments, very strong comments,
28:01and, you know, I want to use a cricketed term, and, you know, I want to just, you know,
28:05for the members of the public, what they call, I'm going to just leave this one alone.
28:08I'm going to shoulder arms and allow it to pass.
28:10Wide. Let it go wide.
28:11I hope that, you know, that your submissions have met, you know, the appropriate minds.
28:15But back to the commissioner of police and the step that he took to speak with the Baptist community.
28:20Yes.
28:20I think that's a good example of leadership.
28:24And I want to salute the commissioner of police as well, that if he finds that the TTPS may have
28:29not acted reasonably or improperly or what have you,
28:33you know, this is where the leadership is tested in an organization.
28:36And in order to maintain trust and confidence, you know, I want to say to the commissioner of police, you
28:40know,
28:41I salute you this afternoon for taking that step, you know, demonstrating that at times mistakes can be made.
28:47Yes.
28:47We all are human beings.
28:48And I think that your response, I myself, you know, based on what the call-off indicated, you know, I
28:52salute that.
28:53So good example for all rank and file to be able to lead and step out because it's a time
28:59that we require leadership at all levels in the TTPS with me.
29:03So I want to, you know, join in that combination to the commissioner as well.
29:06We have actually phone-in-law.
29:07You have another caller.
29:08Caller, good evening.
29:09Hello, good evening.
29:10Good evening, ma'am.
29:12Good evening to you.
29:14Officer, it's so sad when you look at some of these accidents.
29:17And how does she sleep in order to just die?
29:19You left home and then somebody just fling you on the other side.
29:22It's really, really sad.
29:23So I hope that Brent Batten is really doing something.
29:25So some of this will stop because it seems like they're doing their own thing.
29:30And people are lying a lot because even an officer's life was lost.
29:33It was accidental.
29:34And who else do know that?
29:36All right?
29:36All right.
29:37Officer, concerning what has taken place, now I realize that you all will deal with your people who do anything
29:45wrong.
29:46And that is correct.
29:47You deal with them.
29:48Because they're doing all sorts of things and they're embarrassing the organization.
29:52Because two of them have been charged or whatever.
29:55And I also saw where a prison officer, at one point, you see a prison officer, he's, he's, he's, he's,
30:01he's, he's darling about somebody through some, um, feces and thing.
30:05And he couldn't even move until X amount of hours because somebody had to come and, um, you know, take
30:10over from him.
30:11And then I look at another area where a prison officer was being held under the PDO because he encouraging
30:17wrong things too.
30:18So I pass on the police officers, prison officers also.
30:21And that is really bad.
30:22I also saw another program where a police officer wanted to enter a place he was smoking and the security
30:29tell him, he can't come here.
30:30And he, you know, beat up the security and pull out his gun.
30:35And it was, it was really, really sad what has taken place.
30:37And just imagine officer Alia, um, um, you feel comfortable to kill somebody and a little 11 month old child
30:47and you're going to sleep well I hope they find that person very, very quickly because they're overdoing it because
30:52they feel that they get away with it.
30:54But we really have to pray for this country.
30:56Pray, pray, pray, because prayer, prayer works.
30:59They continue to be here because they feel they could get away with it.
31:02So all the best and all of you be very safe.
31:04This is another weekend.
31:06We have to watch out and pray because I don't know what is taking place.
31:10But I know with God's help we're going to overcome all this.
31:13Be safe, all of you.
31:14Thank you very, very much.
31:14Thank you so much, ma'am.
31:16And Sally?
31:17Well, thank you very much, Kola.
31:18With me, the Kola has raised at least two or three sensitive issues and I want to just deal with
31:21them quickly.
31:22I'll give it number one in relation to the prison officers.
31:25She spoke about holding.
31:27She salutes the response in terms of holding police officers accountable.
31:30And if they run afoul of the law, that we follow the process and place them before the course of
31:35Trinidad and Tobago.
31:36I think that is important for the point that she's making in terms of the other public officials.
31:40And I've said on this program some time ago that while you may have an anti-corruption bureau set up
31:48to deal with corruption from the public sector in particular,
31:51I think it's important to look at these other agencies and public officials and probably broaden, maybe I'll just say
31:57it,
31:57maybe a professional standards bureau or maybe to form a public affairs unit to be able to go beyond TTPS
32:04and really look at these other agencies.
32:06Because we spoke a while ago about, like, for example, our lawful ports.
32:09Correct.
32:09And without putting a stigma, it have persons who will be compromised and who are involved in organized crime.
32:13That's why you call it organized crime, because they are also compromising state officials, non-state actors.
32:18So it's important for us to really look at this probably in reform to ensure that we have units set
32:24up to be able to deal with these other public officials,
32:27which are so critical when you're looking at crime and criminality now in entirety.
32:31The second major issue that she raised in reference to that little child.
32:34Yes.
32:34I have a mental.
32:35Yeah.
32:35And in fact, if I go to the little child, the police officer that lost his life in the accident,
32:39I know him.
32:39And I also want to extend condolences to his family and friends of Sabucan.
32:44Yes.
32:45Yeah.
32:45I want to extend condolences to the family as well.
32:47I know him.
32:48I work with him in another place.
32:50And, you know, I want to extend condolences to him and his family and friends of that officer.
32:54I see the police service would have responded.
32:57Yes.
32:57Recognizing his passing.
32:58He was late arrested, from what I understand.
33:00Okay.
33:01So, you know, condolences to the family.
33:03But back to that incident involving that little child.
33:08Whitney, I'll say that recently we spoke about vulnerable youths.
33:12And while the investigation is unfolding, the information and intelligence also seems to suggest,
33:22and this is for the parents and guardians, that if you are not careful in terms of what you're engaging
33:26in,
33:27or what you're associating with, or if there are things that are affecting you,
33:31and you're not bringing it to the attention of your family,
33:32you may just be putting your family, and in this case, your little ones, at risk, and very serious risk.
33:38So condolences to the family.
33:40A child who, you know, when I saw it, and I saw it on the headlines, you know, I felt
33:48moved, you know,
33:49and I'm happy, you know, that we are taking the steps that we are taking to be able to look
33:54at our vulnerable youths,
33:55because that vulnerability can be caused by many different things.
33:58And I said before, in this instance here, where parents, guardians, careful with the life that you are choosing,
34:05your association, your involvement, is not only about you.
34:08You can just bring that back home to your loved ones who don't even have a clue,
34:13or who may be naive in terms of what you are doing.
34:16But condolences to the family, unfortunate.
34:18That child don't even know is a boy.
34:20Yeah, not even a year.
34:22I think it was some days before.
34:23Yeah, that child, you know.
34:24I'm becoming a year old, not even experiencing the world properly.
34:29And just before you go forward, persons who may have intelligence,
34:32if this child do not trouble your mind, let me repeat that.
34:37If the person of this child do not trouble your mind,
34:40those who have intelligence to know who may have been involved with this particular shooting,
34:44then I think you need to search yourself.
34:46You need to search yourself and see whether, in fact, you are really contributing to society,
34:51knowing that you have credible intelligence or information with reference to the passing of this child,
34:56and you do not bring it to the appropriate authorities to deal with this issue.
34:59Yeah, we have a caller.
35:00Caller, good evening.
35:02Hello?
35:03Yes, a blessed evening to you with me, I'm Mr. Ali.
35:05Good evening to you, sir.
35:07Mr. Ali, I don't know how to describe this thing,
35:10but as a parent, I found some words that's going like a head of killers.
35:18These killers are never no shame, boy.
35:21How could you kill a baby, boy?
35:24This baby rich?
35:25Five bucks are chicken and chips, boy.
35:27How much money did he get for that kid?
35:29Mr. Ali, I want to ask you to kill a fit, man.
35:32How much money he got to take the life of that child?
35:37How much money he got to take the life of that child?
35:38How much money he got to take the life of that child?
36:02So he had a little sister, 11 to him.
36:05What's he thinking?
36:07For a few dollars more, you think he's like a child, boy,
36:10and you were telling me if I can't handle nobody,
36:12and I can't handle nobody, I don't know about that.
36:14That five years of all, kind of nonsense, boy.
36:16All right.
36:21boy, small boy, to kill people, boy,
36:24who are already going in this country.
36:26You know, boys have got to get that
36:27hit point in the police service and turn them
36:28balance on them, boy. Thanks a lot.
36:31Alright, Mr. Ali,
36:32the frustration. Kola, thank you very much. I feel the pain.
36:35I feel the pain in your voice, and I'm sure that
36:37other citizens who are listening to you will
36:39also be feeling a similar pain. And you know, there's a
36:41saying that, if this child,
36:43I use the word, and I'm hearing it from your voice as well,
36:45if we are not feeling
36:47the pain, the passing of this child, and others
36:49who may have lost their life over the period,
36:51if we are not feeling the pain, something is wrong with us.
36:53And you know, there's a saying that, Whitney, and I think
36:55you and I were speaking of, sir, that
36:57if your head is hurting you, I should
36:59be feeling the pain in my toe. Yeah. Otherwise
37:02there's... That's right.
37:03That's right. So, when I hear the Kola,
37:05I feel the Kola's pain.
37:07But, you know, let us
37:10stand for something.
37:11You know, let us stand for something
37:13and, you know, we can
37:15say many things about this. Let this
37:17nation go to work
37:18to be able to find the perpetrators for this.
37:21And, you know, he took us into the area where
37:23the troubling minds of the grandmothers
37:24and the aunts and the uncles and the aunties
37:27and so forth, who may be aware
37:29of the persons who may be responsible
37:30for this passing of this child.
37:32What do you do?
37:33How do you account?
37:34Let me say that, you know, we may have persons
37:38from different religious beliefs.
37:40But for most, if not all,
37:42if you don't account here,
37:45there's a saying
37:46that taking the life of one human
37:48being unlawfully is like
37:50taking the life of the entire
37:52mankind. And especially in this situation
37:54where you do not know whether that child
37:56may have been the next
37:58heart surgeon in Trinidad and Tobago
38:00or across the region, you may not know
38:02whether that child may have been the next
38:03prime minister of Trinidad and Tobago.
38:05You may not know if that child
38:06may have been the next teacher
38:07to educate people in Trinidad and Tobago.
38:09So, I want us to be conscious of that.
38:11And that child, you do not know
38:12if that child may have been placed
38:14to impact your children
38:16that is coming up in our society.
38:17So, these are things that we need to think
38:19when we're looking at society
38:21in this context.
38:22And with that being said,
38:23of course, condolences going out
38:24to the family.
38:25The 11-month-old,
38:26his name was Jadon Sutton.
38:28And may his soul rest in peace.
38:29We take that break.
38:30We'll be back.
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39:57in a up small warehouse
40:21You want me to send you a picture of what?
40:25You really like that kind of rude stuff, eh?
40:28Well, okay, but you're sure no one else is going to see these, right?
40:34Of course I trust you, babe, and I know you love me.
40:39I love you too.
40:40I can't believe he posted those photos.
40:44I trusted him so much, and now it's all over the internet.
40:49It feels like the whole world has seen it.
40:52Even my friends are sharing it.
40:55They call me all these names that I'm not.
40:58I didn't even want to do it, but I trusted him.
41:01And now I feel like my life is over.
41:18Children have rights.
41:21I'm not.
41:30I don't know.
41:32I'm not.
41:33Oh.
41:54Legally speaking Wednesdays, Mr. Ali, we were just talking about earlier in the show when it came to the RTAs,
41:59and it seems like persons still not listening because you have been pleading.
42:02There was an incident that took place earlier today.
42:05Let's take a look at this video, and it is clear that these persons that we are trying to speak
42:10to, they are not responsible drivers.
42:14Clearly, this driver is not one.
42:16Look at the risk this driver took here.
42:19And the worst thing is, Mr. Ali, we see when situations like this happen, they're wrong and strong.
42:26Yeah, of course.
42:27And, you know, the position that person may have placed that truck or that trailer in, and those trailers, you
42:33know, there's normally a warning or caution to keep 15 meters.
42:36Yeah, 15 or 17 meters.
42:38The air brakes, right?
42:39Yeah.
42:39Those vehicles cannot stop immediately.
42:41So what that vehicle would have done.
42:42This is why.
42:43That's correct.
42:43This is the reason why.
42:44Now, thankfully, that trailer, it didn't fish tail to be able to affect other motor vehicles.
42:50But, again, that is the level of carelessness, driving without due care and attention, and in this case, dangerous driving.
42:57Yes, and he came out angry.
42:59Yeah, yeah.
42:59He came out angry.
43:00Yeah.
43:00But I must commend the truck driver.
43:02Clearly, he was in the speed limit of him, yeah, with a 65 driving, was in his limit.
43:08And this is the reason why this was one where it's just maybe just a dent from behind and not
43:13a tragic accident.
43:15And, you see, I'll maintain the position I took earlier, that this should not only be investigated.
43:22It should be the persons who are, there's evidence of dangerous driving in this situation.
43:28Thankfully, nobody's injured, at least what we are seeing.
43:32But this could easily end up in a situation where there's a chain of events because you have a vehicle
43:38stop abruptly, a truck is behind it, and then persons are coming down the free flow.
43:42So, these are very significant matters, and I think that persons like these should be feeling the pain of not
43:48having the enjoyment of a driver's permit, even if it be on a first instance.
43:53Because this abrupt, and look at it, on the free passage, not even pulling to the shoulder.
44:01Correct.
44:01If there was an issue that, you know, both of you all want to, you know, have some engagement, it's
44:06on the roadway, so you have no concern for none of the other road users.
44:11And, I think that this should be dealt with significantly.
44:14So, police officers who are traffic, highway patrol, even the licensing authority, I want to strongly advise you that these
44:21are matters that, by Tuesday, we should be seen it and be on the tape that those motorists, the matters
44:28were properly investigated,
44:29and steps are being taken to be able to deal with those individuals who are definitely exercised, that they do
44:35not have any care for the safety and security of the people who traverse the roads of Trinidad and Tobago.
44:41And that's the sort of message that we need to send.
44:42Yes.
44:43We head back to the phone lines.
44:44We have a caller called, a caller.
44:45Good evening.
44:46Yes.
44:46Good evening.
44:47Good evening, caller.
44:48Good evening, sir.
45:15Good evening, sir.
45:19Good evening.
45:27Good evening, sir.
45:30Yeah.
45:30I got to hear you.
45:33I get to hear you.
45:38Good evening, all right.
45:46Good evening, Mr.
45:48I have a message.
45:48Good evening.
45:48that that is key because these are the ones that pull us in shape you know right so what i'm
45:55feeling
45:56that uh popularly that's not in one of the policy directives for the ctps chase charge
46:02we're like social society don't know right a culture of government and the rule of law
46:09it's a whole curriculum you can google it right it works right all right thank you so much thank
46:17you miss ali well thank you very much you know the between that caller made a very strong statement
46:21in terms of he told me take charge you know and which you usually do well that's a very serious
46:27statement but i love where he went in terms of looking at the um teaching at the primary school
46:31yes you know if we want to change our culture i think that's a very very important area and
46:37today in our discussion with several stakeholders um ngos and public sectors you know this is something
46:44that came up today in terms of an intervention with reference to educating um and sharing
46:50experiences and knowledge and what have you and i think that's a very very important area if you want
46:54to change culture for many different intervention at a primary school level because if they understand
46:59it if they appreciate it you're going to get children who are maturing and they themselves could start
47:03assisting in shaping our culture as they go forward because at some time they're going to be the secondary
47:07school sometime they're going to be the tertiary sometime they're going to be the public sector
47:11sometimes they're going to be private sector sometimes they're going to be the leaders in
47:13society so we must start there and when you have persons like the caller who still recognize with me
47:19like many of us the importance of the rule of law we have not we have not buried our heads
47:23in the sand
47:24we have not lost but it's important for us to recognize that perhaps we are getting at a stage that
47:30um
47:31that we hope yes that we can return to a place of safety so caller thank you very much for
47:38a very strong
47:39position this afternoon now mr ali this was captured today in the sealers area now further down the
47:45highway in the vicinity of sealers flyover this happened a trailer detached and crashing into a wall
47:53and this is this is scarier i mean watching the picture alone yes but witnessing it or being around
48:00it when this happened thank god no one was injured from what we know yes um but it is it
48:05just goes to
48:05show where we must always be alert yes i want to point you to a particular word on that tanker
48:12and
48:12let me see if you let me see if you're going let me see if your feet let me see
48:15if you're reading me
48:16or you're feeding me what where you think i want to take you in relation to that tanker flammable that's
48:20right that's right and the reason i'm going to point you to that is that persons who are responsible and
48:24that's why i'm speaking about persons who are in charge or responsible for vehicles understanding like in
48:29this case what you are carrying you are carrying a a flammable material what and go to the dictionary
48:37and see what that means so it's not only a situation where you're driving reckless or dangerous or the
48:42vehicle in itself and was not properly fit to the road these are that those are not the only considerations
48:47understand what you are transporting and the significance of that so that you will understand that okay
48:54if let's say for example i have to drive at 45 i'm going to drive at 35 to ensure that
49:00that doesn't
49:00come into contact with other things and then something happens correct and you who will be the
49:04first person affected the person closest to it so you know again let us that was empty well i hope
49:11so
49:11but let us let us be responsible i know that we are coming close with me um this is you
49:16know at this
49:16time so i just want to take this opportunity um to wish everyone a happy easter weekend you know um
49:22from
49:23friday we are going into a holiday weekend as well yes um to the um community that recognizes and
49:28hold firm to the easter um weekend you know i want to wish you um you know the very best
49:35during this
49:35weekend and hope that you know all your religious obligations are fulfilled um as we move forward and
49:39continue to maintain safety and security and initials yes mr alam you thank you as usual for being here
49:44thank you time to inform the public to get ready to wrap things up have a safe and enjoyable long
49:48weekend by the way to get ready for news up next we'll be back tomorrow remember it's a
49:52short week be safe and be a hot target we're out
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