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01:55Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago and to our global audience.
01:58This is Beyond the Tape.
02:00I'm your host, Whitney Husbands.
02:01Now, let's just start out by saying Trinidad and Tobago, we need to do better.
02:06What a weekend it was.
02:07From a 32-year-old who was fatally shot, Shanice Morris, going into 56 bodies found in Komuto.
02:16Along with what we've witnessed an unbelievable, unspeakable, heinous attack that took place towards a mother, a WPC, Eversley, and
02:29the untimely, tragic death of an age-year-old among three other adults who were ambushed on the lady on
02:36Sunday night.
02:36So much to discuss, and again, condolences to all the families of lost loved ones over the weekend.
02:42It was two words to describe the weekend.
02:45Paralyzing, devastating, and I'm not sure how we will deal with this moving forward because it's really a sad state.
02:52Today is Monday.
02:53We have our captain who is here with us each and every Monday to speak to us about how we
02:58can also safeguard ourselves.
03:00Captain Ramberat is here with us.
03:01Good evening to you, sir.
03:02Good evening, Whitney, and a pleasant good evening to our viewers on TV6 and Beyond the Tape.
03:08And I, just like you and the rest of the public, am really deeply troubled by the incidents of Saturday
03:15into Sunday night.
03:17And I will tell you this.
03:18I was on a search Saturday in the forest in Faisalabad, and then I started to receive a lot of
03:27calls.
03:27Because I wasn't aware of what was going on.
03:31And the calls came from persons who were missing and still outstanding.
03:36You could talk about Frank Lovelace, Albert Solisano, even Marlon Henwood, a relative from Canada, called me.
03:47And it was then I realized that there was this issue with an attempted mass burial of human bodies, cadavers,
03:57in the community district.
04:03And so the other members alluded me to what was going on.
04:08Now, when I read it for the first time, for the first Saturday news, a lot of thought centered my
04:14mind.
04:14And, you know, with respect to a person's body, we have an established practice of dignity.
04:22And we have established protocols with respect to how human remains are disposed of.
04:30And what I cannot understand is why we humans who are alive will seek to cut corners, cut corners and
04:39take shortcuts to bypass well-established procedures.
04:45Because there's a public out there.
04:47You cannot talk about babies being disposed.
04:50It's going to be traumatic to every single family in the country.
04:54And you have lots of persons whose family members are still outstanding.
05:01There is a paper trail with respect to disposal of bodies.
05:05Okay.
05:06You have to get the regional corporations approval for burial.
05:11You have to get a cemetery keeper involved with the selection of spots.
05:15And nowhere in the world is there a mass burial for unclaimed bodies.
05:22And so, I welcome the investigation, Whitney.
05:27Yes.
05:28And I ask that all paper trails be produced.
05:33Well, be produced and those who are culpable actions should be taken.
05:38We do not need any shortcuts and any unhandledness in the disposal of human cadavers.
05:45I know that normally with respect to the stillbirths at the hospitals, that those bodies, babies and bodies are normally
05:56incinerated.
05:58So, it's the first time I'm hearing that they are buried.
06:01And with unclaimed bodies, we do have unclaimed bodies.
06:04It is published in social media for sure.
06:09And so, and there's a stipulation after a six-month period that the state would offer these persons a pauper's
06:19funeral or a funeral.
06:20But we refer to it as pauper's funeral.
06:22And so, that is rather unfortunate and deeply troubling to the public.
06:30Right?
06:30And then we had the second issue.
06:34Condolences to the family of woman corporal Anousha Eversley.
06:43It is, it speaks one language and I speak that language, you know, at the end of the day.
06:50When you speak about crime and criminality, it comes back to human behavior.
06:55But it is beyond me, Whitney, to think that colleagues, persons who are working with Anoushka Eversley, could contemplate such
07:09an attack on a municipal building, a police building, with a colleague inside.
07:17And part of your plan is the executor, to have her murdered, to get some weapons.
07:24The breach of that armory in that station has to be investigated and the whole system revisited.
07:35Because it appears that colleagues could visit on their off-duty time.
07:41They have to put systems in place so these things cannot happen.
07:45But I couldn't understand that.
07:48Nowhere in the world this happens with an attack on the armory of a police station.
07:54Yes. Now, we have an update with regards to the TTPS with the major breakthrough in the municipal police officer
08:01killing.
08:01Now, six in custody firearms recovered.
08:04The Trinidad and Tobago Police Service TTPS can confirm that six persons have been detained in connection with the ongoing
08:11investigation
08:11into the homicide of a municipal police officer and the theft of several firearms and quantities of ammunition at the
08:20Kings Wharf compound in San Fernando.
08:22Those detained include two municipal police officers, two females, and two other males.
08:28Now, the officers of the San Fernando Criminal Investigation Department, Special Branch, and Special Investigation Unit,
08:35supported by intelligence-led operation and the strategic use of technology,
08:40they were able to gather the information.
08:42And as a result, substantially obtaining a quantity of the stolen firearms and ammunitions,
08:49also have been recovered, there was 10 M&P pistols, 10 Glock 19 pistols,
08:57one Browning pistol, one Smith & Western pistol, 212 rounds of 9mm ammunition.
09:05Now, the Commissioner of Police, that is, Alissa Guevara, led officers to the ground in the earlier hours of that
09:12morning
09:13as the investigation progressed and took a critical turn.
09:17Now, let's hear what the police commissioner had to say.
09:21Good morning, Trinidad and Tobago.
09:23As promised earlier on today, we have left no stone unturned.
09:28At this present time, it's about 1.30 a.m.,
09:30and I am here with Inspector Wilkinson from the San Fernando CID and a small team of officers
09:36where we have been able to recover what we believe to be a portion of the quantity of firearms
09:42that was stolen from the municipal police headquarters during the homicide of Corporal Eversley.
09:50So, at this point in time, I just want to commend the officers for the excellent work that they have
09:54been doing,
09:54and we have been pushing since that time until now,
09:58and we have other officers in other parts of the division at this point in time
10:02carrying out simultaneous exercises.
10:04So, as promised, I am keeping you updated,
10:08and sometimes during the course of the day tomorrow,
10:11I will give a further update on all that we have been able to recover.
10:17Captain?
10:17Well, on the other hand, we have to commend the commissioner.
10:20Yes, on his team.
10:22Because he was on the ball, I think, with the unclaimed bodies,
10:25the mass burial of those bodies,
10:28and on this one, he is on the ground and on the field.
10:31And they have made substantial progress because I saw the news conference a short while ago
10:37where some 38 of the guns were recovered.
10:42So, great work by the police in this matter in terms of moving quickly.
10:47They were able to identify the community.
10:52They were able to get in and to get a substantial part of the guns and ammunition that was stolen.
10:59So, quick work on their part.
11:01Yes.
11:02Now, municipal police officer and mother of three, Anushka Eversley,
11:06has been described as a dedicated mother and efficient worker.
11:10Eversley, 42, of Ellingwood 500,
11:12who died after she was shot in the neck while on duty at the San Fernando Municipal Police Station
11:18on Sunday morning, served in the Municipal Police Service for 10 years.
11:23She was an acting corporal.
11:25She had three children, ages 18, 15, and 7.
11:29Again, our condolences to the Eversley family.
11:32So, just to update the public, because your top three results came in,
11:35and it was not a gunshot.
11:37It was strangulation accompanied by blood force trauma to the neck
11:41with an appeared piercing, which could have been a knife.
11:45Now, in that release, the commissioner is saying that three persons who were detained were released,
11:54and I guess the reason for that is the fact that there were some of her colleagues
12:00who came in during the night and went to the dormitory to be asleep,
12:04and they were wondering how come these officers didn't hear a gunshot.
12:08And because the post-mortem has now said that no gunshots were involved,
12:14I guess they would have released them.
12:16And he did say there will be ongoing detention and release as they pursue this case.
12:22But, Whitney, they have to pursue it.
12:24They have to pursue it because this is a major breach of a national security apparatus.
12:31Captain, let me ask you this quickly.
12:33Apart from your TGPS using yourself and your team to find missing persons,
12:39do they use you to find guns and ammunition?
12:42No, no, we wouldn't agree with it.
12:44We wouldn't agree with it, but we would.
12:46I will say totally.
12:48They could use us, but we wouldn't disclose the fact that we are out there.
12:52Right?
12:53Now, anything, we have the skill in locating things, right?
12:57But with respect to police outside officers being out there,
13:02remember, they always heavily armed and protected, and we are not.
13:06And I'm comfortable working with my group to ensure that they are protected.
13:11And they do protect us sometimes,
13:14but I don't want the team to go into that direction at all, at all, at all.
13:19Whitney, so with respect to the bodies,
13:22I just want to make one point.
13:27The regulation of the funeral industry
13:29and the regulation of how we operate our cemeteries
13:33has now come into sharp focus.
13:36A lot of times, while on searches, we have searched cemeteries
13:39and always wonder what's under that freshly dug dirt
13:44that doesn't have a reet
13:46and doesn't look like a burial.
13:50Burial that was done before.
13:51Yes, we've always wondered.
13:53So I wanted to make those two points.
13:55So going forward, the paper trail is needed
13:57as well as regulation of the funeral industry,
14:03agency, the funeral home industry,
14:05as well as how we operate our cemeteries.
14:09All right.
14:10Now, we move from a heinous act
14:13to untimely death of a young child.
14:16And again, any life taken is very disturbing,
14:18and it was just sad to see and hear what took place
14:22on Lady Young, an eight-year-old among four in Mova shooting.
14:26Eight-year-old girl has been identified among four people killed
14:31in a shooting at Lady Young Road in Mova on Sunday night.
14:34Now, the child was one of the victims in what police are treating as a quadruple murder.
14:40Initial reports indicate that the victims were traveling in a red Mitsubishi Lancer
14:45when gunmen opened fire on the vehicle around 7.45 p.m.
14:49in the vicinity of the Seventh-day Adventist Church
14:52and a nearby Presbyterian walk.
14:55The vehicle reportedly crashed after coming under heavy gunfire.
15:00Police said three adults were also killed in the attack.
15:04Their identities have not been officially released.
15:07Officers responded to the scene and cordoned off the area
15:10as crime scene investigators possess evidence.
15:13A manhunt has been launched for the suspects who fled the area.
15:17The motive for the attack remains unclear.
15:20Once again, condolences going on to the family, Captain.
15:22Yes, and Whitney, you know, I've always said this,
15:26that some of our murderers in our communities have no conscience whatsoever.
15:31And this is the second child in just maybe two to three weeks
15:35that has been murdered in a crime-related matter through the use of guns.
15:43My condolences and our condolences go out to the family.
15:47But, you know, when you speak to the slaughter of the innocent,
15:51I mean, it speaks to an image of Trinidad and Tobago that we do not want.
15:56And these perpetrators have absolutely no conscience.
16:00Look at this young lady, the young girl here.
16:03Her life has been cut short.
16:05Her potential to be fulfilled in life has been cut short.
16:09And yet still, these brazen criminals are out there doing what they like.
16:15And it also speaks to the fact that when our police are out there,
16:20this is the type of criminals they come up with,
16:25just cold-blooded killers.
16:27Now, may the young lady's soul rest in peace, Jelena Armstrong.
16:32And, again, condolences going out to the family.
16:36Captain, we get ready for your mission.
16:37Let us know.
16:38All right.
16:38So we had two missions.
16:40I remember when I left here last week, Monday,
16:42we had just gotten a report about Frederick Stevenson,
16:45who was missing since the Saturday before.
16:48And I indicated to our viewers that most likely we would have been in the Las Lomas No. 3 area
16:56on Tuesday.
16:57We did get there at 8 p.m. and begin the search for him.
17:02What happened is that at about 8 p.m. on Wednesday night,
17:07we were able to find his body deep into the forested area of Las Lomas Street.
17:16And, Whitney, I want to say this.
17:19Yes.
17:20I think if we didn't have outside help in this one,
17:23his body would not have been able to locate it.
17:26He left home and he just walked a few houses away to our neighbor's home to fix an air condition
17:32unit.
17:33Yes.
17:34And then he never returned.
17:37He has a young child.
17:38And this has shaken the entire community in Las Lomas No. 3.
17:44Information that the police has in their possession now,
17:48I think will bring quick justice to those persons who commuted this heinous act
17:54and murdered Frederick Stevenson.
17:58And from all reports, Whitney, when you go into a community
18:02and you hear the people saying,
18:04this man is innocent, he never did anything,
18:07and you're hearing it from all quarters,
18:10you're wondering, hey, what went on to Frederick?
18:13But he was murdered in his community.
18:15And I'm thankful that we were able to achieve closure for this family.
18:20And we're going on quickly.
18:22A gentleman went to dig yams at the back of his home in Faisabad,
18:27Pepper Village, Faisabad, last Tuesday.
18:29We got a call Friday evening.
18:31I thought we were going to have a quiet weekend.
18:33And we went out early Saturday morning.
18:36So it's the entire day.
18:37And yesterday at 3.10 p.m.,
18:41we were able to find Mr. Duran Munilal alive
18:47after having spent four days.
18:51This is him in the forest.
18:53That's his first drink of water in four days.
18:56He said he did not drink any water.
18:59This is how we found him.
19:00He was there.
19:02And he had two dogs and they stayed with him.
19:04And I think that's the talking point in this whole thing.
19:07His two dogs stayed with him throughout the ordeal.
19:10But it took us two days of searching to get him.
19:14And we were so happy when we heard the dogs.
19:17We heard the dogs when we were calling.
19:19And he moved something like two and a half miles,
19:27and moved from behind his home to near the 0.14 highway.
19:32And when we got him, he could not have walked anymore.
19:35He had this.
19:36Also, he had discarded his boots, his jersey, his cutlass,
19:40in the middle of the forest.
19:42And you know, we found that.
19:43And then he discarded his glasses.
19:45And you know, we found that at different locations, right?
19:47So I could tell you that this team here is the best tracking team in Trinidad and Tobago.
19:53So when your loved ones go missing, call 799-1453.
19:58And these guys and women, we worked for the entire 24-hour period to make sure that we got him.
20:05Yes, great news.
20:06I'm happy to hear that, Captain.
20:08As we get ready to take a look at what's making the update for the SOE as of April 20,
20:132026.
20:16Number of operations, 4001.
20:19Number of target priority offenders, 1,366.
20:23Searches conducted, 2,358.
20:27Traffic operations, 2,245.
20:30Total persons arrested, 1,730.
20:34Total persons charged, 412.
20:38Firearms recovered.
20:40We're seeing an increase with the pistols, shotguns, the rifles, giving us a total of 100.
20:45Ammunition recovered.
20:47We're seeing an increase with the 9mm, the 12 gauge, also the rungs of 5.56.
20:52And now a total of 2,290.
20:55The injured drug seized.
20:57We're seeing an increase again with the cannabis and the grams of cocaine.
21:02Captain.
21:02Right.
21:02And if you look at firearms recovered, 100.
21:06They would have taken from March to 10 now to do that.
21:09A lot of work.
21:10And then for some miscreants, some hardcore criminals who killed their own colleague to just take 60 firearms and wrongs
21:22of ammunition and want to pour that into the streets and in the hands of other criminals.
21:28So, again, good work to the police service in terms of where they have reached in this case thus far.
21:35All right.
21:35Let's take a look at what's making today's headlines.
22:16And those were your stories making today's headlines.
22:18We'll take that break.
22:19We'll be back.
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24:19Welcome, Mark.
24:20Remember, you can give us a call at 623-1711, extension 1996 and 1997.
24:25If you're now joining us, we have my co-host each and every Monday, Captain Rambert here with us.
24:30So we're getting ready to dive into what is happening with missing persons for the month of April.
24:35April.
24:35So, Whitney, thus far for April, we've had 15 reports of missing persons.
24:40And we have four standing.
24:43Those four, they are brother and sister, non-nationals of Trinidad and Tobago.
24:50Any of our Martinez and nearest Martinez.
24:56And as I said last Monday, because they were still on our listing, we suspect, and the police suspect, that
25:03they've returned to Venezuela.
25:05And they're not harmed in any way.
25:08But we're still awaiting confirmation.
25:10So if it is anybody there out in Kunupia and we have other information other than what we have, please
25:20contact your Kunupia police station or our team at 799-1453.
25:26And in addition to that, we still have Derek Joseph.
25:32He is 61 and he has been missing since the 27th of March and reported in April.
25:43He's from the Blue Basin, Diggomartin area.
25:46And according to his sister, sometimes, you know, he's not a steady person.
25:52And if you see Derek Joseph, please call the police stations in the Diggomartin area or call us at 799
26:02-1453.
26:05And this case, this case, I believe, Omar Dataramcharan, age 55.
26:11Now, he lived in the St. Martin Friendship area, two different homes.
26:15And he was last seen around January.
26:18What they've found out thus far, Whitney, is that his, I'm looking at 55, so probably he would have gotten
26:27some bit of public assistance.
26:28I believe his disability.
26:30Okay.
26:31And it has been entering his account but not been withdrawn.
26:36Okay.
26:36So they suspect that something has happened to him.
26:40So when I leave here tonight, this evening, Whitney, I'm heading down to St. Madeleine.
26:45I want to have an interview with his family and see how we could help them because it's pointing in
26:52a particular direction.
26:54And that tells me that I have to go there tonight.
26:58Remember, you rescue those who are missing.
27:01Yeah.
27:01And find them home as best as you can.
27:03Yes.
27:04And it's a task and, I mean, I'm up to it.
27:08I will go the distance and just help a family to find their loved ones.
27:12So in the case of how we are in an SOE now, Captain, how are you all able to maneuver
27:18to make sure that you're all able to find loved ones?
27:22We're able.
27:23You see, it's a collaborative effort always with the police.
27:26So on Tuesday when I got into Las Lomas, Corporal Singh from the San Rafael police station, he was there
27:35and he was there with us right through.
27:38I mean, not all the time, but he was in constant communication with us.
27:43So that happens.
27:45Remember, freedom of movement isn't curtail.
27:48I think the aspects of the SOE that will really impact in terms of a person's movement really is the
27:57PDO or the prevention detention order.
28:02And that will take you out from your comfort zone and you are detained.
28:07But other than that, our work is not hampered, but we always work with the police.
28:13So in Pepper Village, Faisalabad on the weekend, we were working with the Southwestern Division Task Force.
28:22Now, because we enter the forest area and that's our comfort zone, we don't require the police officers to go
28:28with us.
28:29But what they do, they can patrol the perimeters to make sure that if I call them, they can respond
28:35very quickly to any problems we may have while we are inside.
28:39All right. We take that short break when we come back.
28:41Remember, we take your calls.
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30:55And welcome back. Now, Captain, when we open this show, we spoke of a 32-year-old young lady who
31:01was fatally shot.
31:02And we are continuing to see where persons saw on social media from video footage that was circulating,
31:09what really transpired.
31:10But we have some details here, according to the Trinidad Express,
31:13where a 32-year-old one was shot and killed, while two men, including a soldier,
31:19were wounded during a gun attack at a house in Balmoral Park, Edinburgh 500,
31:25should go on us on Friday night.
31:27Now, police believe that the information that they received with the shooting occurred around 7.35 p.m.
31:34at a residence along Victoria Drive West.
31:37Officers of the Central Division Task Force responded to reports of gunfire,
31:41and upon arrival found the young lady as Shanice Morris of Ammon Street, Edinburgh 500,
31:49in front of the porch with multiple gunshot wounds.
31:51Now, two men were also found at the scene with injuries.
31:54One, a 36-year-old Lance Corporal of the Trinidad and Tobago Defense Force,
32:00sustaining a gunshot wound to the lower back,
32:02and was taken to the Chagones District Health Facility
32:05before being transferred to the Eric Williams Medical Science Complex.
32:09The other, a 34-year-old businessman, suffered superficial gunshot wounds,
32:15but declined medical treatment.
32:17Now, investigators were told that moments before the attack,
32:21the victims were liming on the porch when a silver Nissan selfie pulled up nearby.
32:28A masked gunman dressed in dark clothing exited the vehicle,
32:32approached the house and opened fire,
32:34discharging several wrongs at the occupants.
32:37The assailant then fled the scene in the waiting vehicle.
32:42Crime scene investigators later recovered 16 spent 9mm shell casings.
32:48Captain?
32:48Yeah, and Whitney, when you spoke, when you showed her pitied,
32:52I was trying, I was scrambling to say, well, this one missed me, but it didn't.
32:57I paid particular attention to this case.
33:01But let me say categorically.
33:03When it comes to crime and criminality and the involvement of women and children,
33:10we entang a different realm.
33:13Yes.
33:13And we find too much of our children and women have been murdered.
33:19That's the first point.
33:21And the second thing is, I am sure that the police will take note of what transpired in Edinburgh 500
33:34and use it and work on a previous case that I recalled in the third area involving members of the
33:42Trinidad and Tobago Defense Force.
33:44Yes.
33:45And I hope that they can conclude this matter and bring the perpetrators to justice.
33:52Because if they don't, we may hear about things in Edinburgh 500 going forward.
33:58And I hope they put us up there.
34:00Yes.
34:02The thing about it, again, violence.
34:06The girlfriend was going to visit her boyfriend.
34:09So they believed.
34:11Right.
34:11So they believed, right?
34:12But they were hanging out, so there was more moments of just relaxing at someone's home.
34:17Again, I see somebody.
34:18I don't know if she was involved in anything, but then, you know, you never know.
34:23But the thing is, again, it's unfortunate.
34:27Yes.
34:27We have a call on the line.
34:28Caller.
34:28Good evening.
34:31Hello.
34:32Hello.
34:33Hi.
34:34Yeah, good evening.
34:35Good evening.
34:37Good evening.
34:37I just want to make a contribution, please.
34:41It seems like the blood lesson continues in Piranzebago.
34:46It seems like the operation under control, anarchy.
34:51Captain, do you think it is time that we militarize our police service?
34:58That they need to come out with military equipment and tactics?
35:03Right.
35:04So they can really suppress the level of time that is going on.
35:09I know people may be strong on it, but we have to do something else, you know, develop a country
35:16that is totally violent and will not take into a real field state.
35:23Thank you, Caller.
35:24Thank you very much, Caller.
35:26Yes.
35:26So you're asking about if we should militarize the police.
35:29Well, we do have, we do have like in an SOE where the defense forces mobilize, right?
35:35But I don't think any, we need to have our police officers adequately armed to confront those who are carrying
35:42firearms and who I intend on also injuring police officers.
35:49But Caller, you're talking about a violent society and I've continued to say that the problem is much larger than
35:59we think.
36:00You know why?
36:01We are out there.
36:03We, hunters, search and rescue team, we are out there.
36:05And there are pockets, there are huge pockets in our communities where the young men, they only think about gun,
36:15gun violence and cannabis consumption and maybe consumption of alcohol.
36:21That is what drives them.
36:23And it's directly related to gang activity.
36:27And we have the Trinidad and Tobago Defense Force.
36:33But you see, the problem, Caller, is this.
36:36You're looking at an SOE where you have five police officers now under PDOs.
36:45Right, Whitney?
36:46Yes.
36:47Five police officers.
36:48Yes.
36:49We worked on a case maybe sometime late last year where a police officer was charged for murder.
36:55And then you have this incident that occurred in San Fernando, right?
37:03The municipal police officer, WPC.
37:04Involving municipal police officers.
37:07And really it comes back down to really behavior, how we behave, but really who can you trust?
37:16It comes back down to that.
37:18It comes back down to who can you trust?
37:22And we're seeing this violent tendency, you know, in pockets throughout the country.
37:29Yeah.
37:29We have another caller.
37:30Caller, good evening.
37:32Hello?
37:33Hello.
37:34Hi, good evening, sir.
37:35Good evening, sir.
37:36Yes, sir.
37:37And a very good evening to Mr.
37:40Captain Rambath.
37:42Yeah, Mr. Rambath.
37:44Mr. Rambath, I want to congratulate you on Tender's Association on one of the bodies you, Mr.
37:55Stevenson, you found out.
37:58That is extremely good.
38:00We all have to contribute towards helping TDPS solve all these particular crimes that have been
38:10happenings, missing persons, extra job.
38:12We have to be transparent.
38:14And I listen attentively to what you said.
38:17You said you had external help.
38:21And I believe that is not the TDPPS.
38:24We have to give credit to everybody who participated in finding that body.
38:30I listen, Ofe, if you want to divulge, who helps you?
38:34Because that could be somebody we could turn to to get help to and go and have a nice evening.
38:39Thank you, caller.
38:40Captain?
38:41Well, I wouldn't disclose because several persons, I will tell you, caller, there were
38:46persons who gave us CCTV footage, right?
38:51But civilians are cis.
38:52Yeah.
38:52Of course, they can't identify the individuals.
38:54And they are cis, right?
38:55So it was a collaborative effort, caller.
38:59And at the end of the day, the family achieved closure.
39:03And I believe they should achieve justice with respect to their murdered loved one.
39:10Yes.
39:11Now, I have another story here that left many people confused and baffled here.
39:19Now, we saw what went on in Kamuto.
39:21You mentioned the 56 bodies and prisons.
39:24So, like, what transpired?
39:25They even made international news.
39:27Now, we have an update from the TTPS, where the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service, through
39:32the Northern Division, continues investigations into the reported attempted disposal of 56 human
39:39bodies on April 18, 2026, in the Kamuto District.
39:43Now, a coordinated multi-agency response involving TTPS investigators and other relevant state authorities are
39:52currently on the way to determine the full circumstances surrounding this matter.
39:57Investigators have commenced the process of recording statements from persons of interest
40:03as inquiries progress.
40:04Now, preliminary findings indicate that some of the bodies recovered were labeled, and initially,
40:12or I should say, initial information suggests possible links to a health institute.
40:18Efforts are ongoing to verify this information.
40:21Now, at the time, investigators are actively working to confirm the identity of all deceased persons,
40:26obtain and analyze scientific and forensic evidence,
40:30lays with the relevant health authorities and the regional corporation,
40:34determine whether any breaches of existing information that could assist them may occur.
40:41So, this is not just going to be left.
40:44Yeah, and I'm happy for that.
40:46But what I find strange is that this situation falls directly into the park of the Ministry of Health.
40:56And I have not heard from them on this matter because it involves a whole series of systems,
41:04and they need to go through the systems to ensure that they are adhered to.
41:09I am sure there are written protocols because I know they have been followed.
41:14So, this is a breach, and we're not for a simple farmer.
41:19Yes.
41:19We would have not known about this.
41:23The terror.
41:23And this calls for a deep dive into the funeral industry, agency, burial,
41:30those who are funeral homes, industry,
41:33as well as how the paper trees are maintained for these bodies.
41:40We have another caller.
41:41Caller, good evening.
41:44Caller, good evening.
41:44Hello?
41:45Hi, good evening.
41:46Good evening, sir.
41:48Can I come in on the program?
41:49Of course, you're live.
41:50You're live right now.
41:51Captain is here.
41:51Oh, Mr. Collins, I'm a captain.
41:53How are you doing?
41:54Yes, we're all right.
41:54Fine, thank you.
41:55I cannot understand what has put this nation this weekend.
42:05I thought four people died was bad.
42:08I thought 56 bodies was bad.
42:10Here you have.
42:12I can't put it together.
42:15No amount of appearances and press conference and nice talk and things from Mr. Guevara could help me to reconcile
42:23what has taken place in San Fernando.
42:25It is a crime of proportion that I don't think we have.
42:31You know, you'll see these things in a Denzel Washington picture.
42:35Yeah.
42:35Or like a movie.
42:36We have a, a Kifian, a Kifian way, we're out of this world.
42:41But this is where we are right now.
42:43We're in a Denzel Washington picture.
42:45Right?
42:45But the only thing is, this is a real thing.
42:47And it's like this nation has become possessed by demons.
42:52We were grieving for the child with death in Pigeon Point.
42:55Look at how many have gone just like that.
42:57Boom.
42:58They kill a woman in Edinburgh.
43:01They bounce off a lady somewhere.
43:02I don't know what it is going on.
43:04But that thing in San Fernando, strike, I tell you, strike at the heart of everything that Mr.
43:12Superintendent will come on Wednesday and say, and Mr. Ali will come tomorrow.
43:16I don't want to hear them tell us because things are much worse than them tell us talking.
43:20This nation has become possessed by demons.
43:23Good evening.
43:24Thank you, Kola.
43:24Yes.
43:25So, Kola, you know what also is that on Saturday, the entire nation was engrossed with the story
43:32about the bodies, right?
43:33The 56 bodies.
43:35And what transpired on Sunday, the entire discussion on the bodies went away.
43:42And the discussion focused on the...
43:45It's too much, Captain.
43:46It's too much.
43:46It's too much.
43:47It's coming fast and furious.
43:49And before the Sunday was over, we had a quadruple murder on the Lady Young in the
43:56Morvan area.
43:57And you're quite right.
43:58It's coming too fast.
43:59But I just want to say to the Kola that from observation from what I saw, if I was Commissioner
44:06of Police, I would have taken charge and Commissioner Guevara took charge.
44:10Both on the 56 bodies, on claim bodies that were headed for a mass burial and on this one in
44:17the San Fernando municipal headquarters murder.
44:21And also with the Lady Young incident as well.
44:23He is one individual.
44:24He is the controller.
44:25Yeah.
44:25He is one and I was wondering when he would get arrested.
44:28But he has to take charge because he knows that he would be held accountable for the Fernando
44:34Tobago Police Service.
44:36You're seeing him out there.
44:39I don't envy him or any officer.
44:41Of course, because he would have needed some rest on a weekend and that was totally gone.
44:45And he, but what I like is that take charge.
44:48If I am, I'm taking charge.
44:49Yeah, even if he's got any licks which he is receiving.
44:52Yeah, he has, he has.
44:53The country is everyone, but he's doing what he's trained to do.
44:56Must be strong.
44:57But he's out there.
44:58And he's updating the public because the company says.
44:59And he's practicing leadership.
45:00No matter how many blows, how much blows you get on your back and your back has a whole set
45:05of holes in it.
45:06Yes.
45:06You've got to get out there and lead the troops.
45:09And they led well if they recovered 38 of the firearms from Sunday morning to now.
45:18Yeah.
45:18And they also received 614 ammunition as well.
45:21And the search continues.
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55:03everything yeah thank you so quality I agree with you agree with the curfew but
55:13and the thing is it will it will it will it will cause persons to be
55:20accountable for where they are at the front times of DD all right so but the
55:27reality is the public is really shaken by the what's coming out with respect to
55:34you know criminality with respect to police I mean as municipal and not it
55:40still doesn't matter still doesn't matter it has we have a final caller on the line
55:49call a good evening good evening sir yes but in the country not speak the curfew that
55:56is making sense it's not yes remember everything is affected I think what they
56:02are doing right now presently it's okay it's just that they didn't want to go to
56:08with the generative they didn't want to go to and I'm satisfied so far with the
56:13book from the conventional police he's working hard as he said he cannot be
56:17everywhere all the time he's not good and he trained his best and the middle
56:21there's a worldwide something else so I'll keep it short thank you very much bye bye
56:27well call I I don't think it's worldwide the breach of an armory in a police
56:32station is not a worldwide no he's saying of what is happening with crime with
56:36crime in the country it is global yeah just yesterday alone I saw in the US that a
56:42father killed seven of his children yes I saw that as well you know so it's a and
56:48then we have the was taken place with Iran and then we're seeing things are going on
56:53as well in different parts of the world where heinous acts continue to consume
56:58our social media world or airwaves and it is disturbing and we are not exempt from it
57:05but what we could do captain well with the limited sometimes we put all the blame on
57:10the train on the boat big open it's a friend somebody to blame and yeah we need
57:14to find somebody to blame within the Ministry of National Security there
57:20various security agencies and apparatus that are laid out to protect citizens and
57:27to protect the interests of the country for instance I always see firearms are not
57:33manufactured in Trinidad and to be ammunition they're not manufactured where are
57:38they coming from we've been told that they coming through legal force of
57:44them so there are other agencies who have to take stock of themselves as well
57:48yeah captain will like to thank you as usual take your time to be here with us on
57:51Monday we get ready for news coming up next at 7 remember ASP Russell will be
57:56joining us tomorrow each every Tuesday Thursday and Friday be our targets be
58:00safe TNT see you tomorrow God bless we're out
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