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04:10Good evening, Trinidad and Tobago.
04:11And good evening, Whitney.
04:12It's a pleasure to be back here.
04:13I'm happy that you're back.
04:14You know, I love when the females come in because I'm always dealing with the men.
04:17And it's not a bad thing.
04:20It's just, it's always a nice touch to have the females.
04:22And we see you all do great things within the TTPS.
04:26So let's dive straight in because I have a lot of questions to ask.
04:29Sure.
04:30And as I opened before, where do people, what do you all really do when persons need
04:34assistance as a victim or witness?
04:36I think that's really important, especially in the climate that we're experiencing right
04:39now.
04:40And the Victim and Witness Support Unit, which is one of the departments that I head, both
04:44the Victim and Witness and the Police Social Work Unit, two departments that deal with
04:48the trauma and helping persons to cope, whether it's from the police officer, which would
04:54be the Police Social Work Unit, or the member of the public, which is the Victim and Witness
04:58Support Unit, which I think is the focus of our conversation today.
05:02With respect to those things, when someone experiences a crime, this assistance is available
05:09to help the person cope with the trauma that they would have experienced, whether or not
05:13they themselves would have been directly hurt, assaulted, injured by the incident, or whether
05:18they would have witnessed the incident.
05:20So that support is available.
05:22And the support would look like counseling, emotional support, to go through the entire
05:27process that happens following an incident.
05:30For example, after a homicide, in terms of if they have to give statement, do an identification
05:35parade, where do I go to get a death certificate, do I need to ID the body of a relative?
05:41So all these activities are provided with support, with someone to go along the victim
05:47or the witness to go through this process.
05:50Also, even if a relative may be missing, and there's a lot of trauma that families may
05:56experience, whether it is children or adults may be missing, and they may need help to
06:00cope, they may need help to balance, they may need to know that the state is providing
06:04some sort of support for the experience that they are having.
06:07And this is where the victim and witness support unit comes in, providing that assistance to
06:11members of the public to help them go through that process, while also updating them with
06:17the investigation.
06:18Because sometimes citizens may often say, you know, I really don't know what is happening.
06:22And this is where you get the information as to where the investigation has reached.
06:27Do you need to do a further statement?
06:29What can you expect next?
06:31And what type of interaction also you can expect from the police officers that are attending
06:36to your case?
06:37So it helps to be that go-between between the police officer and the victim of crime,
06:42but also to help and identify with the victim's traumatic experience.
06:48Because it's in identifying with that that the person will then be more committed to
06:52cooperate with the process as they understand the process, which will then, we're hoping,
06:58leading to court matters and pursuing the matter before the court.
07:03So this service is really key.
07:05And it's a difficult job, yes, because of the trauma that people go through.
07:11But we are delighted to deliver this service because the type of trauma that families
07:16experience in Trinidad and Tobago, based on experience in different crime situations,
07:20could be really paralyzing and debilitating to the rest of their lives, especially children
07:26in school, persons in work-related spaces.
07:30Last week, we will acknowledge Suicide Prevention Day, and this is also a type of trauma that
07:35sometimes, if not dealt with effectively, persons may plummet into that space of depression
07:41and may want to hurt themselves.
07:43Yeah.
07:44All right, we have more to discuss there, but let's dive into the headlines this evening.
07:48Let's see what took place over the weekend and today.
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08:41Now, Ms. Corby, you spoke more on dealing with the victims and witnesses and how that
08:48said unit really assists persons with traumatic experiences that they are exposed to.
08:54How are you all also dealing with it when it comes to an officer being exposed to something
09:01that could really be...
09:03The things that they are exposed to on a daily basis is not what the normal citizen will
09:06be able to endure.
09:08Yes, they are trained, but they're still human beings at the end of the day, and how are
09:13you all dealing with that, even if they're on or off duty?
09:18Right, and I want to just acknowledge something you said, that they are still human beings
09:22and they are still human beings that experience an extreme amount of trauma daily and risk
09:30their lives for the safety of all of us.
09:33And we may say, you know, this is a job that they've signed up for, but it's still an immensely
09:37unpredictable traumatic space.
09:40So what is available for them is provided through the Police Social Work Unit, where
09:44officers of the unit are counselors, clinical psychologists, and social workers that are
09:49trained within the Police Social Work Unit and are staff of the TTPS to provide that
09:55help to help officers cope with the effects of traumatic incidents that may occur, that
10:00they may experience on the job, or also should they experience any difficulties otherwise.
10:06Right, so those are the services that are provided where an officer can access it through
10:11various methods, and it's a unit that we are constantly looking to see how we can build
10:16and deepen the support because of the great need that we know for persons that work in
10:22policing.
10:23And it's available to not just police officers, actually, to all staff of the TTPS.
10:27Are they aware of using that?
10:29Meaning, I know sometimes they may say, I don't know that happening within the unit.
10:34I'm sure if some of them are watching here, they'd be like, I didn't know that was there.
10:38And how are you all making it a safe space for them to feel comfortable and not be placed
10:43almost, especially with the men, as a joke.
10:45Like, boy, what's going on?
10:46You're not macho, you're not strong enough to deal with what's going on here.
10:49You know, it's always like persons heckling.
10:52I hear you.
10:53And we really want to kind of demystify that whole issue of mental health or police officers
10:58or males seeking help because that's where we prevent a lot of traumatic situations from
11:03happening.
11:04So we have a number of persons that access these services, men, women, their children.
11:09It's also available to immediate relatives.
11:12I certainly would want more persons access.
11:15So we're looking to see how we can build outreach and build that type of service delivery that
11:20we have right now with different areas and targeting different sections so that more
11:25persons can be aware of these services and also to access these services.
11:31So I think there is, of course, a wide cross-section that is familiar with these services, but
11:36there's still a lot that may need to benefit from them or to understand it more.
11:41And that's one of the areas of focus that we're looking at currently so that we could
11:45reach out to the officer and indicate and have them feel reassured that this type of
11:50help is available to them also whilst they serve and protect the rest of the joint public.
11:55Is it safe for them to say that it's a place where persons would not know they're seeking
12:00that assistance?
12:01So persons wouldn't really be in their business?
12:04So they're sitting parameters in terms of the delivery of service.
12:10The service is a confidential service, and it's how they can access it are different
12:15methods, whether it be they self-refer or whether it is they can refer someone else.
12:21So different methods they can access the service.
12:24And what we're doing right now, as I mentioned, we're going to be taking the service to the
12:29divisions through just an outreach widespread coming out of this whole period where it goes
12:37from suicide prevention day on the 10th of September to mental health day on the 10th
12:41of October.
12:42So we're going to be looking at that type of mental health awareness drive within the
12:46organization and really seeing how we could create safe spaces where officers can share
12:51their very candid feedback, the things that they are pleased with, any things they have
12:54concerns with, to see how we can enhance that, really pursuing their wellness.
12:59Similarly to what we do with service in the victim or the witness of crime in the public
13:05in terms of having the community outreach or engagements with the public so that the
13:10public is aware of the services that are provided for crime victims and understand what to expect
13:16when a crime occurs.
13:18We need to take a break, and when we come back, we will touch on more with this topic.
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16:08And we are back. We have a caller on the line.
16:10So we will take that call at this time. Hello, good evening.
16:13Yes, good evening, Ms. Halberst. Good evening, Ms. Corby.
16:18Ms. Corby, I'm listening to what you were saying there, and I'm wondering,
16:23and maybe you can respond after I explain my situation.
16:28Whether the department that you head deals, is it that it deals only with criminal matters,
16:36or does it deal with instances?
16:40When I say criminal matters, matters like murder and such things.
16:45I'll tell you why I ask this.
16:47Several years ago, I had a vehicle that was stolen from me.
16:52And the police have received statements from me, and one police officer, in fact,
17:01indicated that he knew the person who had the vehicle and the keys to the vehicle.
17:08The police officer, in another discussation, the senior officer who was the host of this program,
17:17when I called the program on four occasions,
17:21he made some very discomfiting comments about why I was pursuing the matter.
17:27Never to react.
17:29And when that did not work, I took the matter to the PCA.
17:33The PCA wrote me eventually and said that I had a good case,
17:38and that they had forwarded the information to the Commissioner of Police for action to be taken.
17:46I was then contacted by a sergeant who was in charge of the disciplinary unit.
17:51He took a statement from me, and after I gave him the statement,
17:57when I followed up, he indicated that I could not do anything again
18:01because the PCA took too long to forward the complaint to the Commissioner of Police.
18:09I then followed up with a senior officer, and coincidentally, or ironically,
18:17a senior officer in the police professional department.
18:23I can't give you the exact terminology, but this email of the officer promised to follow up on the microphone
18:31on two occasions.
18:32She never did.
18:33She never called me.
18:34Nothing of the sort.
18:36I have made a good statement to the St. Joseph police station.
18:43Sorry, the St. Joseph police station, to the Tunapula police station.
18:48Also, I have attended police stop meetings in Twin Cities, Tunapula, and Aruka,
18:59and voiced the same complaint way back again.
19:02Nothing of the sort.
19:03So I'm wondering whether the department that we're in charge of,
19:08would I be considered as a victim in this particular regard,
19:13that I could follow up on again.
19:16I thank you most sincerely.
19:21Okay.
19:22Thanks for your call.
19:23So I'm hearing two sets of things.
19:24I'm hearing initially that your vehicle was stolen, right,
19:28which is the genesis of the story that you shared.
19:31And then I'm also hearing that you would have shared some feedback and engagements
19:35with both PCA and the Professional Standards Bureau, PSB.
19:39So with respect to your status of being that victim at that point in time,
19:44where your vehicle would have been stolen,
19:46the units can provide, if need be, and if you desire,
19:50in terms of emotional support,
19:52which is within the range of services that the unit provides,
19:55should that be a need or desire of yours that can be offered to you.
19:59With respect to the information, also,
20:01regarding the investigations from the various units,
20:05we can then engage those units to relay the current update to you.
20:11So in terms of connecting with those units so that you can get the feedback.
20:15Of course, we wouldn't be aware currently as to the status of your investigation
20:20so that we can route you to those persons to provide that update.
20:24So that's what I can provide in that scenario.
20:27If you need help or emotional support to cope with it, that is available.
20:31And in terms of routing you to whether it be the persons from St. Joseph Police Station,
20:36the persons from PCA, or the persons from PSB that I mentioned,
20:40in terms of connecting you, but in terms of the details of the investigation,
20:44where it is, where it's going, or where it may not be progressing,
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20:58Now I want you all to take a look at this video.
21:00This was caught on camera around the Queens Park Savannah over the weekend.
21:10Now we don't have full details on what caused this to take place.
21:40So officers were quickly on the scene.
21:43And this was on social media, like most of the videos that we see almost every single day.
21:49And we still don't, as I mentioned before, the full details,
21:54but what is most important for me is that I'm seeing officers on the scene.
21:58And the person...
21:59Responding swiftly.
22:00Yes.
22:01Was apprehended here, and then it is now moving forward.
22:05With what took place.
22:06So the quick actions of the officer.
22:08I hope that the person who was involved in that accident is okay,
22:12but it's the inconvenience, you know, leads up after that.
22:16Right.
22:17In terms of the vehicle and repairs.
22:18Yes.
22:19And also some injuries that you may not immediately see from these road traffic incidents as well.
22:25Yeah.
22:26So it is one way going through that process.
22:30Thank you, Lord, that this person is alive.
22:32Right.
22:33The victim.
22:34I'm not sure what really transpired with the person who was apprehended.
22:38Not wishing that on anyone at all either, because we still don't know the full details as we mentioned.
22:43The dynamics of it.
22:44Yes.
22:45But outside of these dynamics, Whitney, if I may.
22:48Of course.
22:49I think it's a good point to note that for persons involved in road traffic incidents,
22:55victim and witness support unit provides interventions for those as well.
22:59So it's not just homicides, home invasions, rapes, etc.
23:02It can be a road traffic incident that you've been injured in or have had a loss of life where we provide that assistance.
23:10Yeah.
23:11And also another top story that is still being circulated.
23:18The two cousins were last seen at 10 a.m. on Saturday, the 14th of September.
23:23We speak of Duna of Aruka and the comebach of Summer Village, Arima.
23:29The car they were driving, a rental, a blue Mazda was found abandoned at a bypass.
23:35But at bypass through that is on the Blanchard Road in Arima.
23:39Now, anyone with information, please.
23:41We ask you to contact us.
23:44With information, any information that can lead to finding these young men.
23:48These are cousins.
23:49Now, something that is not related to this because I know two bodies were found and this was in the mangrove area.
23:57The bodies of two people were discovered yesterday afternoon floating in the mangrove at Pioneer Drive.
24:04And this was in the mangrove area.
24:07The bodies of two people were discovered yesterday afternoon floating in the mangrove at Pioneer Drive in Sealock.
24:14Up to last night, police and members of the hunters search and rescue team read the location attempting to retrieve the bodies.
24:22Police said they were unable at the time to identify the bodies.
24:26However, it was being speculated on social media, which is not the case here.
24:31We're making it very clear that it's confirmed that those were the bodies of the two young men, the cousins.
24:38It is not confirmed.
24:39So, please, what you're seeing on social media and persons saying it showed us the body, it is not confirmed thus far.
24:46And as we get the information, we'll update the public with that.
24:50So, as officers investigating the disappearance stated that the same day they rented that blue Mazda car,
24:57one of them were driving and was found abandoned, as we mentioned before.
25:02So, in that case, condolences to the family of the persons with the bodies found there.
25:07We still don't have full details on it.
25:09But we pray that some sort of closure and we could touch more on situations like this with persons who may have lost loved ones,
25:17persons who have been missing and found.
25:19And where does the unit come in there?
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28:10We have from the police social work department and victim and witness support unit.
28:16Miss Aisha Corby with us and we continue our conversation where we left off.
28:21Where we saw that video where the bodies were found.
28:24And we're just speaking of in general now.
28:27Persons who have lost an individual.
28:30May it be by missing persons or even kidnappings.
28:35You name it.
28:36Murder.
28:37Some of the most heinous crimes and they lost a loved one.
28:41Where does the victim support step in?
28:44I think I want to start by just echoing condolences to the relatives of those two persons that were found.
28:50Because sometimes it's really tragic when relatives go missing.
28:55And unfortunately they may not be recovered at times.
29:00But in terms of those instances as well as if it's a homicide or another really tragic incident.
29:07That assistance fortunately is available through the victim and witness support unit.
29:11So they can self-refer.
29:13Someone can refer them as well as a police officer who's involved in the case can refer them to access the services.
29:21And this is where contact will be made with them and they'll be offered.
29:24Whether it be counseling or the other services in terms of a home visit.
29:29Even just accompaniment to forensics.
29:32In terms of identifying a body or preparing for the funeral.
29:36That accompaniment as well is available to persons.
29:40Even while they are at hospital.
29:42Visits can be done through the victim and witness support unit.
29:45It's just a whole package to help persons cope with the various types of trauma that exist.
29:51And when persons go missing we would want them also to know that they can access.
29:56They don't have to wait for whatever is the eventuality.
29:59Sometimes the person is found again and then there are unfortunate instances.
30:04So they can access the services to help them deal with the process as well.
30:10And in addition to those interventions for the individuals, Whitney, we also do community interventions.
30:16How does that work?
30:18So based on the evidence or the data.
30:21For example, there may be communities that have heightened amounts of whether it be domestic violence.
30:27Or whether it be home invasions.
30:29Or whether the community has just experienced a very tragic event like a triple homicide.
30:34What we will then do is liaise with our partners from homicide or other departments in the TCPS.
30:39And conduct a community intervention.
30:43Whether it be a walkabout in the community.
30:45Just connecting with persons who may not want to come to the office.
30:49Who may not want to come.
30:51We may have gone into the community with some public figures.
30:54But they may just want to engage on a one-on-one.
30:57To get their voice to be heard.
30:59We will be going into the community to liaise with persons.
31:02Right now we are finalizing a plan to go into that community in the west.
31:07Where that triple homicide would have occurred.
31:09To just meet with the community as well.
31:11Coming out of that tragedy.
31:13Because acknowledging that while the murders may not have occurred in your home.
31:18Just being next door is really a daunting thing to imagine.
31:23That the volume of persons that may have been killed next door.
31:27Could it have been me?
31:28What if I was outside?
31:31Exactly.
31:32So persons go through different levels of fear.
31:35And we just want to reiterate to them the support that is available.
31:38And the work that is being done by the TCPS to investigate these matters as well.
31:43So that they can have some clarity as to what is happening.
31:46So we have a number of those that we are hoping to do for the rest of this year as well.
31:51It's going to be starting with that one soon at Petey Valley.
31:55And also even in the sister isle.
31:58So we've had an unfortunate finding among some other incidents in the sister isle.
32:02Where some bodies would have been found as well.
32:05And we are engaging with persons.
32:07To see how we could support the different parties impacted by those instances.
32:11Because there's a show factor in Tobago, right?
32:13Right.
32:14So unfortunately, yes.
32:16And this is where we are seeking to just deepen the support.
32:19That is provided alongside the police officer.
32:23Because we are hoping that communities would deepen their partnership and contribution.
32:28Have information with the police.
32:30So that the island itself don't get overridden with these incidents.
32:34Because Tobago remains, as is Trinidad, really a tourist, more of a tourist destination.
32:41And it's a beautiful place to just relax.
32:45And we wouldn't want it to be marred with these instances.
32:48And whilst it's not the mainstay.
32:50Just one is too much.
32:52Similarly in Trinidad.
32:53One is too much.
32:54And sometimes one incident now leaving multiple deaths.
32:58Right?
32:59We have a call on the line.
33:01Let's take that call at this time.
33:02Hello, good evening.
33:07Good afternoon.
33:08Good evening, sorry.
33:18But this is directly to the police.
33:20Where the 14-year-old girl and her one-year-old son went missing a couple of days.
33:28But they were found in Tobago.
33:31Right?
33:32And that is excellent.
33:33Because you knew when they were missing.
33:35Something was happening.
33:37I am reading the article.
33:40And I'm very, very annoyed.
33:43That I'm hearing that this young lady when she became pregnant.
33:48It was reported to the police.
33:50And the police did not take any action.
33:55That is really, really an indictment to the police.
33:59Because there are a lot of things that happened there.
34:02That's an underage person.
34:04The perpetrator of this heinous act.
34:08This violation of the young girl.
34:11Who would have been 13 years at that point in time.
34:14Has the account.
34:16Has the account.
34:17If it's a minor.
34:18If it's a school teacher.
34:19If it's somebody who violated that.
34:22That child's life is basically ruined.
34:25How can a 12-year-old, 13-year-old look after a little child of her own?
34:33So I was hoping that I would have seen some action.
34:39And for the parents to come and report and say the police did not do anything.
34:45Put a big blot on the TTPS.
34:48Have a nice evening.
34:52It's an unfortunate instance.
34:54When a child is sexually assaulted and violated in our country.
34:59And I think as he started, the fortunate thing is that they were both found safely.
35:03Mom and the child.
35:08I can't say in terms of the status of that investigation.
35:12But I'm thinking once the matter has been brought to the police.
35:15That certainly on some level of investigation would ensue.
35:19In terms of where that is.
35:21Or the status of it.
35:22Or the dynamics of it.
35:23It would be certainly for one of those sections.
35:26Especially the child protection unit.
35:28That would be looking to it.
35:30I know part of the media article would have spoken to the work of the child protection unit in the case.
35:35But I wouldn't want to speculate to indicate that nothing was done.
35:39Because sometimes the TTPS may not divulge all that may be connected to a case in the media.
35:47Correct.
35:49In a situation here.
35:51And we're seeing that the face is already plastered on the media of the young lady.
35:56And she's underage.
35:58Correct.
35:59Which is also interesting.
36:01I mean they were trying to find out.
36:04We will see that they will put it out trying to get some sort of assistance.
36:08To locate the young lady and the child.
36:11But I totally agree with the caller.
36:14When the report is done.
36:15And as you said with that said unit.
36:17They can't divulge all that information.
36:19And certain things are extremely sensitive.
36:22Who made this child?
36:24Or got this child impregnated?
36:27And it's now in a position where she's operating like an adult when she's not.
36:33Right.
36:34And being exposed to things that she doesn't want to divulge to other persons.
36:38Who may be in her community.
36:40And from the article from what they're saying.
36:42The woman who didn't want to reveal herself.
36:44Was trying to convince her to go back to school.
36:46And get her life back on track.
36:48But she didn't want to hear that.
36:49So who are the people or who is the person?
36:53Because we don't know.
36:54Involved that is in that young lady's ear.
36:56For her to be making these types of moves.
36:58And it really highlights that it's a child.
37:01Right.
37:02That would have had a child.
37:03And is released to see how the systems in place now can support this young lady.
37:08So that her life thereafter can have some level of function.
37:12And some productivity going forward.
37:15Because sometimes as he says.
37:16After these types of experiences.
37:18Sometimes their journey plummets.
37:20But sometimes if they are buffered with adequate social support.
37:23Be it parents or other avenues for growth.
37:27The young lady can still progress.
37:29And it would be then on the other side.
37:31The Trans-Pacific Police Service in terms of pursuing their investigation.
37:34But also reiterating the call for persons that may have knowledge of these instances.
37:41To continue to report.
37:43And to recognize also that it still is a crime.
37:47Not because you may see a 16-year-old that may be looking like an adult.
37:51It means, okay, that we ought not to raise an alarm.
37:56If they are involved in activities that are underage.
37:59That are beyond their age.
38:00Yeah.
38:01We have to take a break.
38:02We'll be back.
38:08Now this is radical trading.
38:10You hear that?
38:11And them have everything to cover anything.
38:13Anything.
38:14Radical trading have the best fabric design for your poster in this year.
38:18Furniture, car, boat, and even material for school bags.
38:22This will look really nice on my coat, boy.
38:25They even make them pillow too.
38:27Sprung.
38:28Those shirts are for get the money.
38:30Serious?
38:31You can pay for it for me.
38:32Me and my big mouth, boy.
38:34I wonder if radical get thing to cover mouth yet.
38:37Radical trading.
38:38Four locations nationwide.
38:40I see you.
38:42Okay.
38:43Do your dance.
38:44Do your thing.
38:45I see you.
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38:47Let me see you.
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38:59Yeah.
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