00:00If it goes poorly Sunday, this is the last start.
00:02You can't start on, you can't start the Sunday after.
00:04You can't not start on home.
00:05And I know you're going to go, watch him.
00:07I'm like, no.
00:08No, you're saying it's the last start.
00:11Like, Todd's going to listen to anything that anyone else does.
00:16Well, it'll be self-preservation at that point.
00:18Let's go around the room.
00:19We did this on the Monday after, or whatever day it was,
00:23after he was horrible in game two.
00:26They're not going to start it.
00:28It's not going to happen.
00:29And then they started it.
00:30Well, Jason, play Lloyd-O2 if you can.
00:34This is Jason.
00:36Let me take you down the odyssey of this here.
00:39That's a word play on our fabulous company.
00:43Play this because I got to change something here at the end of it.
00:47Here is an odyssey station.
00:51It's been a long time since we had that.
00:54Well done.
00:55Soon enough, you're going to be playing syphilis.
01:10The guy who's so brazenly goes,
01:13syphilis, man.
01:14Like, just mocking the syphilis.
01:18Mocking the disease.
01:20Is that what Al Capone said?
01:23Just brazenly mocking it.
01:26That stuff's serious now, man.
01:27Yes, it is.
01:28Made a comeback.
01:29Damn it.
01:30Can't believe it.
01:32Guys, you've got to wear some condoms.
01:34You've got to get tested.
01:35Get that penicillin in you, man.
01:39Turn your brains into bisquick.
01:43All right, here's Jason.
01:45Says, you can't start mandating who the coach starts at quarterback.
01:49You can't start mandating to the head coach who can and cannot play at quarterback.
01:53I just don't believe that that's happening.
01:56I did think at one point last year that might be happening,
01:58and I never found any evidence to it.
02:00So, I have to go by what I know.
02:03So, Lyman, during the break, goes, there's people who are flat out calling us liars.
02:07And I'm like, I can't stop people.
02:09Everybody.
02:10When people hear what they don't want to hear, they just call you a liar over it.
02:13It's like, okay, fine.
02:14What I'm seeing a lot of that I think I hate to do this,
02:18because I've seen a lot of bad Browns quarterback play,
02:21and people are telling me that it cannot possibly get worse than Sunday.
02:26And I'm like, it has been worse.
02:27We saw some games last year where it was worse.
02:30I mean, that Bears game.
02:33It was worse, but you didn't feel as bad about it.
02:35You didn't.
02:36It was at the end of the year.
02:38You didn't care anymore.
02:39I'm sorry.
02:40I didn't mean to cut you off.
02:41But, damn it, you just didn't feel worse.
02:43This is a way worse feeling.
02:45I mean, Shador last year against the Bears was 18 of 35.
02:49So, he had 17 incompletions, not six.
02:51And he threw three interceptions.
02:53It doesn't matter.
02:53I mean, Shador can go out there and literally play with one arm,
02:58tie behind his back, and throw eight picks,
03:00and I still wouldn't feel as bad as this.
03:01Five sacks, and I think he was credited with, like, four of them.
03:04I wouldn't feel as bad as that.
03:05So, that is a worse game.
03:06Shador played a worse game.
03:07Now, Shador was a rookie, and Deshaun,
03:10now coming off two years of not playing football,
03:12there was going to be a rough start.
03:16I think any of us that thought he would just come out
03:18and light the scoreboard on fire, I don't think anybody expected that.
03:21Like, if I were the owner right now, you've got to be careful.
03:26Because, you know, once you say these things, you can't take them back.
03:31Let me go around the room with you guys, too.
03:32If you were the owners as well.
03:33Like, if I were the owner, if he goes out there and he plays,
03:36Deshaun Watson goes out there and plays that badly on Sunday.
03:40He doesn't make it out of the half.
03:41We've got to – you can finish the game.
03:43If you want to finish the game, finish the game.
03:45We've got to have a conversation on Monday.
03:47We've got to have a strong conversation on Monday.
03:51Because I'm losing confidence.
03:54You can – I understand.
03:56Operations, operational, getting the plays in and out.
04:00Well, I hired you for a reason.
04:03You're coaching.
04:04It's not just about repeating your philosophy.
04:06It's coaching.
04:08Find a way to get them where you need them to go
04:11or as close to it as you possibly can.
04:14If you need to run – like, seriously, if you need to run jet sweep,
04:18you love that play, but you know what?
04:22Anthony can only come down – Anthony's my ex, and he can only jet so fast.
04:26Well, you're going to find something else to do.
04:29We're tasked with trying to win football games here.
04:31Because I could look at it and go, like, honestly,
04:34if I were the owner of the football team, I'd come down after Sunday
04:37because I assume he's not going to play well.
04:39And if he doesn't play well, and you're playing against the quarterback
04:41that I decided that I wasn't going to give any money to,
04:44and he's going to – if they get a chance,
04:47he is going to make us eat that thing the entire game possible.
04:51The Kansas game when he was in college will be a far cry
04:56to what we may end up seeing.
04:58He might not be getting fined for what he does over there on the sideline
05:00if they start to really get their way with things.
05:03And I would have an honest conversation, and I would go,
05:06listen, I know I'm not supposed to do this.
05:08I do have a fan base I have to think about here.
05:12I can't – we can't do this.
05:13No longer.
05:14No longer.
05:16And you could say, well, it's my job.
05:17And I'd go, yeah, but even if you did start him
05:19and people are yelling in the stands and saying terrible things
05:23and people are calling in and saying horrible things about it,
05:26like, I don't know about your future either.
05:29Like, what the hell is going on here, man?
05:32Like, I'm at the point where you knew what we were getting into.
05:37And I know that there were some people going, nah, Ken will do it.
05:40He'll come around on it, and he'll start saying nine wins.
05:44And I didn't even meet you halfway.
05:45I'm like, hey, if they got a chance to win any of these games,
05:47they can win against Jacksonville.
05:49I'll take a win against Jacksonville for all the reasons that Todd keeps saying
05:53that they have a chance, and they did none of those things,
05:55and they look terrible doing it.
05:56And I'm like, I'm never picking them to win.
05:58And now it looks like you saying four and me saying five are a gross overestimation.
06:02So now it's like, let's get in and out of the season without people,
06:06without us having a great big huge embarrassing moment.
06:10I'm serious.
06:11Like, something that we, let's get out of this season
06:13where we don't have to talk about something for the rest of our lives.
06:17All right?
06:18Like, you talk about the 0-16 because it's 0-16.
06:221-15, it's like, hey, Jamie Meader blocked a kick.
06:24But under the net, you don't remember any of that 1-15 season.
06:27Make it forgettable.
06:28Like I said, let's just get in and out of this season
06:30and move on to next year without any of us losing our minds.
06:33Can we do that?
06:34Because the guy makes us lose our minds.
06:37I'm not trying to fan flames.
06:38He fanned the flames.
06:40If I did not exist, if you did not exist, they'd still be angry.
06:45I make no bit of a damn difference after it.
06:47If he didn't say anything after that, and I'm like, yeah, you go ahead and boo him.
06:51You yell at him and boo him.
06:52Then, yeah, I'd be fanned in flames.
06:54I don't need to be here for you guys to do that.
06:57Neither does Tone.
06:58Neither does Jeff and Andy or anybody else for that matter.
07:00You'll be mad on your own.
07:02So we do have to think about this.
07:04Like, yeah, I know.
07:05I want the head football coach to do his job.
07:07I want him to coach.
07:08I didn't know it was going to go that badly,
07:10and I said those things before he shot his mouth off
07:12after a preseason game for crying out loud.
07:14Sorry.
07:15Serious.
07:16Kenny, I think the reality is that what I always say,
07:19that these things tend to work themselves out,
07:21although I thought the Deshaun thing would have worked itself out like two years ago.
07:25We are sitting here with a team that almost no quarterback
07:29would have helped the Browns win that game on Sunday
07:32because the defense was that dreadful, so they'd be 0-1.
07:34Yeah.
07:34And now against a Baker Mayfield team and a motivated Baker Mayfield
07:40who cannot allow, especially after signing that contract,
07:44for his team to go 0-2.
07:45I would just say this has worked out perfectly for Shador Sanders to come in in week three,
07:50and have you seen that Carolina defense in week one?
07:53Like, what better scenario served up on a platter for Shador to look good
07:58and have that offensive line with rookies on the offensive line
08:03and new guys up there and rookie-wide receivers a time to gel than week three?
08:08And if I were a Shador fan, I'd say,
08:12Shador, Deshaun, you enjoy the first two weeks of the season.
08:15I'm glad you came around.
08:16It is a bit – guys, I will openly admit it's a bit of mental gymnastics,
08:21but I'm glad you've come around.
08:22Like, why should – you made your decision.
08:24You're starting Deshaun Watson.
08:26And Shador Sanders could have went out there and played like garbage,
08:29and we'd just go, yeah, he played like garbage, and that sucks.
08:32All right, what do the guys in college do?
08:34All right, when are we going to Deshaun Watson?
08:36Or when are we going to Dylan Gabriel?
08:38All right, Dylan's got a couple of weeks left.
08:40Can we get Taylor and Green caught up to speed?
08:42Like, that's like the worst that it is.
08:44Like, I know guys get on the internet and get in fights with whoever on the internet
08:48about Shador Sanders.
08:49It ain't nothing like this.
08:51It ain't nothing like this.
08:52So if he went out there and he played well, great.
08:54If he went out there and he struggled, fine.
08:55I don't even take it as some sort of an indictment.
08:58I know that people – well, if Deshaun's this bad, then maybe Shador's really bad.
09:03I'm like, I don't even know if he's really bad.
09:04I think it shows you how far behind he is.
09:07I think that it doesn't do very many favors that you're drafted by a team
09:12that was probably kicking around the idea of moving on from their head coach
09:15in the first place.
09:16Then you get thrust into a situation where you're not on a very good football team.
09:20And then that football team switches out their head coach
09:22and you have a new offense to learn.
09:24And clearly, I got two guys – the guy ahead of you and Shador are having troubles
09:28getting the information out.
09:29So again, where – did I set you up for any success at all?
09:34If I didn't, it doesn't matter.
09:36I got to move on.
09:36I got to find the better QB if that's the case.
09:38Yeah, it's ready or not now.
09:40By week three, it's ready or not.
09:41I don't even know if it's the – I don't even know if it's the indictment.
09:43Because I don't think it's the indictment.
09:45I just – I look at it for what it is and I go, young man, I know that there's
09:50some people
09:50that don't like you because of your fan base.
09:52I don't think that's any knock on you.
09:55I don't think you're a bad guy.
09:57I don't think that there's anything wrong with you.
09:59I don't know how great you're going to be.
10:01But we got to find out because I can't repeat any of this because they're at least happy to see
10:06you.
10:06And in the ones who aren't even happy to see you, they're just curious.
10:09They're not going to boo him when he hits the field.
10:11You can announce your offense before the game.
10:14That's honestly what's at stake here.
10:16Like, guys, I'm trying to censor my own conversation about what could happen
10:21because I don't want anybody to get any crazy ideas.
10:24I've never had this happen before.
10:26Never.
10:2815 years.
10:29Never has happened.
10:30And I'm like, well, we got to be careful because I don't want anybody showing up out of spite
10:35and doing goofy stuff because I don't want this to be something that we talk about
10:39for years and years and years and years and years.
10:42Just make it forgettable.
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