00:00What a way to get us pumped about the Carolina game.
00:02Come on.
00:04Well, you want something positive and uplifting?
00:06Let's go.
00:08Okay.
00:09Deshaun Watson spoke yesterday.
00:13Was asked about the fans and asked about the fan reaction.
00:17Said he doesn't ever want to go at war with the fan base.
00:23I think we were nervous last week.
00:26I was more nervous last week than I am this week about Deshaun Watson
00:30starting for the Cleveland Browns.
00:31He had a good performance.
00:33They won the football game.
00:34All right.
00:36Can I?
00:37You have been like, no booed, never booed, don't boo, can't boo.
00:41It accomplishes nothing.
00:43It makes the players feel bad.
00:44Yeah, to be clear, I've kind of been anti-boo for a while.
00:49Nothing to do with this game, although I think it takes on a bigger messaging.
00:54It could be a big story.
00:56This could be a national story in that regard.
00:59But overall, for years, I've always kind of said, don't get me wrong,
01:03I've booed, especially younger Lima going to game, liquored up.
01:06I've certainly done tons of booing.
01:08But as I've gotten older, I've been like, does it really do anything that you want it to do?
01:14Like, you're getting something off your chest,
01:16but I've seen fans leave the stadium as upset as they've ever been and get in fights.
01:21Like, so the booing didn't help.
01:23The getting something off the chest certainly didn't help.
01:25When you ask the players, they're like,
01:27I thought you guys were supposed to give us a home field advantage.
01:30I thought, and that's in every city.
01:31Like, I thought that's what the fans are known for, giving us a home field advantage.
01:34And then when you're booing, that kind of undercuts that
01:37and just really fires up the other team.
01:39So it doesn't really help there.
01:41No one's ever been able to explain the psychology of the boo
01:44and how it helps anybody involved.
01:46It doesn't.
01:46It just gets it off your chest that you are unsatisfied with what's going on.
01:50This is not acceptable football that's being played out here on the field today.
01:55But you don't think they get that from the coaches?
01:57You don't think they get that?
01:58I think the coaches are just trying,
01:59I think they all understand it's unacceptable,
02:01but I think the fans need to let them know that it's unacceptable
02:03when it becomes unacceptable.
02:05Oh, they need to let them know.
02:06Well, what else is a fan going to do?
02:08Turn around and shun them?
02:09Like, you got to do something.
02:11Well, I've seen what the fans do.
02:12They do the famous walk of shame from the stadium,
02:16and then I see a lot of fights.
02:18That's what happens.
02:19If you pay money for a product, and then you're unhappy with that product,
02:22you're not allowed to say anything about.
02:24Exactly.
02:25I don't think anybody, I've never said you can't, boo.
02:27I just don't understand the point of it.
02:29What does it accomplish?
02:30So here was Deshaun yesterday.
02:32He says he's never trying to get into it with the fans.
02:34Here we go.
02:35Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing,
02:37I don't never try to go at war with the fans.
02:39So I think the biggest thing is just, you know, ready for support,
02:42ready to feel their energy,
02:43ready to get this big dub for the city of Cleveland,
02:46and, you know, continue this great feeling that we have this week.
02:49So that's my motto is just keep pushing forward,
02:51finding ways to win on Sunday to, you know,
02:53take advantage of the opposing team and get a dub.
02:56Meet me a quarter of the way.
02:58I'm pro get a dub.
02:59Meet me.
03:00I'm pro get a dub.
03:01I think everybody is.
03:02I'd like to get a dub this week.
03:03Meet me a quarter of the way.
03:04Okay.
03:05I don't want them to boo at the beginning of the game.
03:07If they announce the offense,
03:09are they announcing the offense?
03:11I don't think they should.
03:12I think they should announce the defense,
03:14but, like, you're going to get your chance.
03:16Like, he's going to take the field for the first time that day.
03:18Yeah.
03:18When he takes the field for the first time,
03:20maybe hold back.
03:22Give him a chance.
03:23Give him a chance.
03:24They won last week.
03:26There's other guys out there.
03:28You root for the jersey.
03:29You root for the colors.
03:30You root for the history.
03:31As rough as that history's been since 1999.
03:35Not the history of Deshaun Watson.
03:35You root for the history.
03:38Just, I'm not saying to go nuts with vociferous, thrilling cheering.
03:45I'm not asking you to.
03:47The hero's welcome.
03:47Yeah, it's not like that.
03:49You don't need to have a standing ovation.
03:51He's a jolly good fellow.
03:52Yeah.
03:53He's a jolly good fellow.
03:54Hip, hip, hooray.
03:55Hip, hip, hooray.
03:57You don't need to do that.
03:59You don't need to do that.
04:00That doesn't need to be done.
04:03Just, you know, let him take the field.
04:06If he throws a pick or they start having three and outs and they start having the problems
04:13within the boundaries of good taste.
04:15Let him have it then.
04:15What's the boundaries of good taste?
04:17Booing.
04:18Booing.
04:18We grew up on booing.
04:19Booing is something that happened way before we were ever alive.
04:22Any of us talking.
04:23I feel that booing is in with the boundaries of good taste.
04:26Any nasty things being said from the stands.
04:30Certainly anything thrown.
04:32That is absolutely not to be condoned and not to be done.
04:35Absolutely not.
04:36That was a bad day.
04:38I'm not power ranking bad things.
04:39I want to know.
04:40No.
04:40Power ranking best to worst what you can do.
04:43Oh, the best is hip, hip, hooray.
04:46Yeah, the worst is batteries and dog bones.
04:49Yeah.
04:49We've done that.
04:50Best to worst to show your lack of appreciation for the product that you're currently.
04:54Oh, booing, booing, booing is one through three to show the lack.
04:57Hold on.
04:58What about posters?
04:58The worst I'm not going to name.
04:59What about posters?
05:01Like, remember, that was a big part.
05:03Oh, yeah, bring your signs.
05:04That was a big part in the 80s.
05:06It was like going to Monday Night Raw.
05:09People used to bring that, and an art model would have them collected,
05:13would have them forcibly removed by security.
05:16Are they still doing, like, Cavs games, they have the posters out,
05:20and they have arts and crafts.
05:22Yeah.
05:22So you can make them, but no.
05:24And they actually have people there helping you make them.
05:26And they help, yeah, because it's normally not very negative in those instances.
05:31True.
05:31Football can be a different story.
05:33True.
05:34If you allowed the fans during, like, an 0-16 season to have posters,
05:40the arts and crafts hour would not last very long.
05:43Michael's sales would be through the roof, though.
05:45I mean, it would be a hell of a day for them.
05:47Do we stop Pack-A-Tan, or that's over?
05:49No.
05:50That's done.
05:50Pack-A-Tan's gone?
05:51I think it is.
05:51Been absorbed.
05:52What about Joanne?
05:53They still sell poster boards, yeah.
05:56They'll give you the fabrics, but unless you have a sewing machine,
05:59what are you going to do with them?
05:59Oh, like they don't have a poster board over there.
06:01Can you bedazzle?
06:03Maybe you can make a nice Christmas wreath.
06:05That'd be nice.
06:06Mom used to go to Joanne Fabrics and get stuff for Christmas wreaths.
06:10Yeah, let's hear it.
06:10And then she would make those Joanne Fabrics, things you can buy.
06:15Okay, you can buy the stuff for Christmas wreaths.
06:17You can do stuff for a decoupage.
06:18Decoupage.
06:19Decoupage, that's number two.
06:22Paper mache.
06:23What's the difference between you can do?
06:25Peppier mache is number three.
06:27Paper mache.
06:27Their hats.
06:28Yeah, you make a paper mache hat.
06:30You make a paper mache hat that says, I don't like what's going on here.
06:35Maybe an oversized Norm MacDonald slash Burt Reynolds hat.
06:38I don't like this.
06:39I will meet you.
06:40I think that's even meeting you halfway.
06:42I'm fine with that.
06:43I've never been like, hey, guys, if they go five, three and outs to start the game,
06:48there are two turnovers.
06:48He fumbles the ball.
06:49Don't boo.
06:50Okay.
06:51You get what's coming to you at that point.
06:53It's just his pro football.
06:54It is pro football.
06:55I'm not going to be Pollyanna about it.
06:57That's what I'm saying.
06:58Like, in this case, what I was hearing now changed.
07:01It changed drastically with his performance.
07:04But what it could have been, had they have allowed him to start, which I don't think
07:08they would have, and he struggled mightily in that game against Tampa Bay, I mean, people
07:13were talking about this could be one of the darkest Cleveland home games.
07:17And I don't want that.
07:18I don't want that.
07:19I just, so early in the season, I just don't think that's good for anybody.
07:23When did you say you heard that, by the way, that this could be one of the darkest
07:26Cleveland home games?
07:27A week ago.
07:28See, that's why I really went out of my way to not have those discussions.
07:33Because I didn't want to get, I still don't want to give anybody any ideas.
07:36You didn't want to instigate.
07:38Exactly.
07:38I don't want that to happen.
07:40So the best thing that possibly could have happened is that they won the football game.
07:44And the best thing that possibly could have happened that he's still playing is that
07:46they won the football game and he looked decent.
07:48And he was a big part of that win.
07:50He obviously was.
07:51A lot of quarterbacks could have, and good quarterbacks could have had a bad game and
07:55you lose that game because of it.
07:57So they did put a lot on him, even though it was short passes.
08:00They did put a lot on him.
08:01He needed to use his feet.
08:03The mobility was big.
08:05He even audibled into the biggest play of the game and kind of set it up.
08:08So that was a big part of it.
08:11I'm not saying that we were joking about the hero's welcome and everything.
08:14No, you don't have to like him.
08:16And a lot of you don't.
08:17Most of you don't.
08:18Let's be honest.
08:19But I did not understand.
08:21Hey, first drive of the game, the offense having to look around, everybody put their hands
08:26over their helmets, and then Todd Munkin has to call timeout because you guys are being
08:29so nasty, that to me would defeat the whole purpose of being a fan.
08:32That would make no sense to me.
08:342-1-6-4-7-4-0-92.
08:36What are the rules to booing on Sunday?
08:39Because I think I tried to make a nice, reasonable olive branch going, you don't need to whoop it
08:47up and three cheers for Deshaun Watts.
08:50You don't need to do that as they take the field.
08:53Smattering of applause might be nice.
08:56Maybe a golf clap if you're so inclined.
09:00And hopefully they play well enough where you don't have to boo.
09:03And then, yeah, they have to earn your support after that.
09:05That's how it works.
09:06If they play poorly enough that you can boo, I think boo's where I draw the line.
09:11That's where it is.
09:12Anything else, uncivilized, don't get yourself kicked out of places.
09:15That's silly behavior.
09:17You don't want to do that.
09:18You don't want to sit there 10, 15 years from now going, I can't go to the new stadium.
09:23Why can't you go to the new stadium?
09:25Because I went and threw something.
09:27Like, no, no, don't do that.
09:29Please be smarter.
09:30Yeah, they do.
09:30Please don't do that.
09:31They do.
09:32And they're going to have facial recognition at that place.
09:34You're not going to be it.
09:35You get banned for life.
09:36You're banned for life these days.
09:37Just maybe at the start at least.
09:39And hopefully things go well.
09:40And then we won't have to worry about that.
