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02:14Good evening Trinidad and Tobago international audience and our brothers and sisters in Grenada.
02:20This is Beyond the Tape.
02:21I'm your host, Whitney Husbands.
02:23It's officially Friday and the weekend is upon us.
02:26And of course, we hope that persons understand their responsibilities and hopefully you'll have an enjoyable weekend.
02:31But today being Friday, the gentleman who is one of our favorites that joins us as best as he can.
02:37And for the past two Fridays, he has been here and he's back again another Friday with his presence to
02:42guide us accordingly.
02:43Of course, we have DCP Benjamin.
02:46Good evening to you, sir.
02:47Good evening with me and I'm so glad to be here.
02:49It's always a joy.
02:51I think just now I'll just clean Fridays.
02:52But I realize it's your Friday.
02:54It's your Friday.
02:55It's your day.
02:56It's certainly, certainly.
02:57Yes.
02:57And it was a very eventful day.
02:59And I look forward to it for a wonderful program.
03:02Yes.
03:02And I'm always happy because when persons see person, well, officers from the executive itself standing here on the show,
03:09it means a lot.
03:10Yes.
03:11And let me just say that that is exactly what we want to portray.
03:14Because we are saying now the way that we have to go as a police service has to be engaged
03:20in the public.
03:21The public needs to know this is all about, you know, greater transparency, integrity, and accountability.
03:27Whatever we do as a police service, we must be accountable to the citizens.
03:30And therefore, it is a privilege just to be here and, again, to just be open with the public and,
03:36you know, that we could just collaborate.
03:37Now, DCP, I don't know how you do it because it seems like you're a man that is everywhere when
03:43it comes to the DCPS and representing.
03:45I mean, it's administration.
03:46So it is where your presence needs to be felt and also seen.
03:50And you try your best to be there.
03:52Now, I know one place that you wish that you all were there was the incident that happened the first
03:57week of school with these young persons, with that major fight that took place in the Northeastern Division.
04:03And persons are still speaking about it because it wasn't something the citizens were ready to witness because it's the
04:09first day of school.
04:11Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:12And I think, I guess the best way I can just say, it just breaks your heart.
04:19Yes.
04:19It breaks your heart.
04:20That is not what you want to start off, you know, with this new year of school.
04:24Nevertheless, you know, I think I'm going with the saying that says, you know, a bad beginning probably leads to
04:29a good ending.
04:30Hopefully, fingers crossed.
04:31You know, we are going to make every effort to turn this thing around.
04:35And we are still going to allow the data to lead us.
04:39Fights so far based on our data is one of those things that are increasing.
04:44And therefore, we are anticipating that we're going to get that.
04:48But yet, we are hoping that we can have certain intervention.
04:51And I'm telling you, I'm real excited.
04:53I am real excited for what the police is doing.
04:56We have some wonderful initiatives this year that I'm telling you, I think it's really going to make a difference
05:03in the lives of our children.
05:05And one of those things is we have something called Flip the Script.
05:08And I tell you, coming out from the community-oriented policing and so forth, working with members from corporate communication,
05:16it is going to be just something fantastic that will change the course and trajectory of what is happening.
05:21And also, from the Men's Bureau, we are going to come in with something called Mentorship Matters.
05:28And it's where we're really going to be dealing with those at-risk young men.
05:33Men in the schools, we're coming in, and we really want to let them see, you know, that change can
05:39take place.
05:40As men talking with men, doing things, I mean, it's going to be so exciting.
05:44I guess, you know, I could slip thing that we want to really get them into to see what the
05:49life of a police officer is like.
05:50Oh, nice.
05:51I mean, it's just going to be transformative.
05:53And I tell you, it's just something that we have out-of-the-box thinking.
05:56The Triantivago Police Service, we are not going to sit down.
05:59We are going to do our part to bring about change in the lives of our young people.
06:02Not forgetting the parents, right?
06:03Just saying.
06:04Yes.
06:05We need them involved as well.
06:07And that is also part of what we want to do, touch the lives of the parents as well, because
06:11we want to engage.
06:13Again, the school, it's about the teachers, it is about the principals, it's about the students, and it's about the
06:19parents.
06:19Well, let's keep on that same page, DCP, when it comes to the school-orienting policing that has started before,
06:27this was last year, if I'm not mistaken.
06:30Yeah.
06:31It's last year.
06:32Yeah, I think it was last year or a year before.
06:35Yeah, before, somewhere around there, but either way it has started.
06:37And we're in a new term.
06:39What is the perspective of the TTPS moving forward after seeing what, I mean, transpired?
06:43Yeah, I know you all had your plans.
06:44Yes, and, well, first of all, we are very optimistic, because we believe that the police officers in the schools,
06:52they are making a difference.
06:53And when we look at our stats, I want to be very honest, and sometimes, you know, the honesty, we
07:00recognize that when we compare the amount of reports that we have compared this year to last year,
07:07we recognize we've got about 12 more reports this year than last year.
07:11I am of the firm view as well that persons recognize that we now have police officers in schools, so
07:17while some reports were not made before,
07:20they can now make reports knowing that police can, you know, now investigate and deal with those matters.
07:25So, therefore, we have seen an increase, a slight increase in terms of the number of reports.
07:30Nevertheless, we are not daunted.
07:32We are now going to look at those reports and look at where they are happening.
07:36We're going to look at exactly who are the persons that are involved, and we're going to be targeting these
07:42individuals so that we can bring about various interventions this year in the lives of the young people.
07:48What we're saying is that a person can make a mistake.
07:50What we don't want is that mistake now to be trickled to where it's now a lifestyle.
07:56And therefore, if we can stop it through some interventions, we have some conflict resolution centers, we have the police
08:04youth clubs,
08:04we have these new things that we're talking about, flip the script, we have the mentorship matters and all the
08:10different things.
08:11The police, we are doing all that we have so that we can save the lives of our young people
08:14and bring that level of transformation.
08:16Now, DCP, what could the TTPS do when it comes up outside of the school now?
08:21Because it seems like they're waiting patiently to attack or react in whatever way they see fit because they realize
08:29what is happening in the school.
08:30There's control, but outside, free fall.
08:34Right.
08:34And to me, at the end of the day, it is about the individual.
08:37And that's why we want to get, you know, into these individuals.
08:43And as we, as the men, you know, we deal with the other at-risk guys who are going through
08:49and believing that they are bad and so on.
08:51No problem.
08:52We are going to be talking to them so that we believe, you understand, if we can just change the
08:56way they can see things.
08:58I think a saying says, you know, when you change the way you look at things, the things you look
09:02at change.
09:02And we hope that that change will come about so that they can, you know, just flip that script and
09:08come up with something new.
09:10And notwithstanding, we are going to also be anticipating that fights are going to happen outside.
09:15So what we're going to do is really see if we can have some assistance in terms of having police
09:20along the routes where we know these things might be possible.
09:24Because they pay attention to the officers just as much as you are paying attention to them.
09:29You see, at the end of the day, our intention is not to try to catch them fighting.
09:33We want to stop them from fighting.
09:35So probably with the marked vehicles, it's going to act as a prevention.
09:39And therefore, if that is going to work, it's about really trying to get them off the streets, get them
09:44home as quick as possible,
09:46so that they're not going to be a terror to themselves.
09:48You know, I wonder if any of them or any of the young persons who watch the show,
09:53because either two things, you maybe want to take in what is happening or your parents forcing you to watch
09:58it before TV6 News.
09:59But either way, when you hear us speaking like this and we're saying police should patrol unmarked vehicles or even
10:07in a marked vehicle,
10:09it gives like, to me, if I'm watching that, but I'm the children of criminals.
10:13If we have to pay attention to us and we want to do a certain act without them knowing, it's
10:18because you know it's wrong.
10:20So when you see and hear persons like us speaking like this,
10:23it wouldn't be disturbing as a young person listening to us that this is not normal.
10:28Well, I think that we also need to be well fair to the system.
10:31I am saying, I believe the majority, in fact, the great majority of our young students are law-abiding students.
10:41Of course.
10:41They are not.
10:42It's the few persons who really want to go down this bad road that are really spoiling it for the
10:49others.
10:50And it's important that we don't brand, you know, that this is how our young people are.
10:54Certainly that is not the case and the TTPS is not saying that.
10:57We are looking at the few people who want to spoil it, and we are saying that we are going
11:02to be targeting those persons
11:03to ensure that we can turn their lives around so that at least, you know, they can become more productive
11:10citizens.
11:11You know what I like, though, that what you mentioned, I mean, it gave us a little snippet
11:16that you all are flipping the script where you are engaging the young men, letting them see in the lives
11:22of officers
11:22and how you all operate, things that could be done within the service, and they exposed it
11:29because many persons, including the adults who watching the show, will never have that kind of experience, right,
11:34to see something like that because usually we will say, you know, send them into jail,
11:38let them see how they live and how they operate in.
11:40But really and truly, it doesn't work any favor of what we're thinking is going to help these young men
11:46and even young girls as well, when it comes to seeing that and the way in which they're living,
11:51some of them glamorize that and say, yeah, boy, but look how, I see no Jordans in the corner there.
11:56I'm just saying, sometimes or most of the times they showed, even in, we always like to look at the
12:02United States,
12:03for example, Scared Street was one that was, you know, persons with children,
12:07and they showed with the studies and the stats because we like to look at stats.
12:12It didn't work.
12:13Yes.
12:14It didn't work for the young people.
12:15It was almost like they wanted to be on the show.
12:18They wanted to be in the system.
12:20They were like glamorizing it and their peers and they showed those who were there,
12:25most of them either ended up in jail, still addicted to drugs,
12:29they were still involved in violent activities.
12:31So we also have to be careful, which I like that it showed a different light.
12:35And I think that, I mean, that is only part of the joy that I feel
12:40because where the script is really where we are going into the schools with the police band and so forth,
12:47and we are really going to have other guests with us and so on to really talk to the students.
12:53In addition, we are going to be having what we call a youth police band,
12:59both pan side and so we're going to be teaching them music.
13:02I mean, it's just revolutionary.
13:04So the idea is to get them into some other activities so that they could understand that they can be
13:11productive citizens.
13:13And, I mean, it's just out of this way.
13:16What would you say to where persons may be watching this and saying this should not be the job of
13:21police officers
13:22and the parents should be ones stepping in and putting things in place to guide the children
13:27because you'll have a hard job already.
13:29And I think we understand, even as police officers, what it is to be a police officer is not just
13:37about winning and arrest people.
13:38This is what true policing is all about.
13:41And anybody who think that policing is just about arresting, I think that is missing.
13:45Okay, understand.
13:45True policing is about really, first of all, creating that police legitimacy where people trust the police,
13:53where people could know that, yes, hey, you know, hey, you know, D.C.P. Benjamin is a person that
13:59is respectable
14:00and therefore I want to invite him.
14:02And it's where the public wants us to police them because they know that the police is doing a fantastic
14:08job.
14:08And therefore we are flipping the script in terms of how people see the police
14:13and we are now showing this new light because this is what true policing is all about.
14:17And we are certainly proud to just be part of what this new breed of policing is in Trinidad.
14:24I'm curious, when you all go into the school since you all started the orienting policing
14:30that is in different schools across the country, are you all, well, the officers, I should say,
14:35in the schools with their firearms?
14:37Well, in some schools we carry, and again, everything is based on a case-by-case basis
14:45because we do have schools that are in areas where there are serious gang problems.
14:51Right, right.
14:52So in some cases what we try to do, we try as much as possible not to do,
14:58is to probably always have it, you know, exposed.
15:01Exposed, yeah.
15:01I think because they will watch it and be fascinated by it.
15:04And we don't know what might happen, you know, but we are saying, though,
15:08that we want persons to understand, even when you see it or not,
15:12this is part of the kit of the police.
15:14Correct, yes.
15:14And therefore, this does not change anything.
15:18It is only here, you know what I'm saying, so that we can protect the people in the schools.
15:23You don't want, while you're there, a person run into the school and now, as the police officer, you have
15:30nothing.
15:31Come on.
15:31Yes, yeah.
15:31You have to defend the teachers, the principals, the students, and therefore you need these weapons to help you to
15:39defend.
15:40And if you see it, it's because it is there as part of the tool of a police officer who
15:46is trained to use it.
15:47And therefore, it should not be seen as being harsh and that kind of thing.
15:52It is there.
15:52And the thing about it, we don't know when these things can happen,
15:55but you don't want to tell a bandit when you're going to, hold on, let me go and get one
15:58and come back.
15:59Yes, yeah, yeah.
15:59You have to do it.
16:00You know, the crazy thing is, DCP, I would never have fathom seeing police officers in our schools like this
16:07to protect our children.
16:09You used to see that on television, on cable, and you're watching these schools with metal detectors that you're walking
16:16in the school.
16:16You're being searched, you have police officers there, and it is right here in Trinidad and Tobago now.
16:21And this was something that we saw maybe two decades ago, a decade ago, on television.
16:27And in Trinidad and Tobago, this is what we're witnessing.
16:29I remember seeing that show called 21 Jump Street.
16:31Yes.
16:32And, I mean, you have police officers on the cover.
16:34Yes.
16:35You know, and to see that, you know, you've probably seen that now is really amazing.
16:39We probably never thought about it.
16:41But at the end of the day, you know what, we really just want to see a better and safer
16:46Trinidad and Tobago.
16:46And I think if this is what it takes, you know, to just bring all young people to a sense
16:51of understanding that we ought to be, you know, citizens that obey the laws of the land.
16:58Then we will do what we have to do as police officers.
17:00And at the end, you know, we are glad that we're doing it to help somebody along the way.
17:06Now, I just want to mention this because today is a historic day, not for Trinidad and Tobago, but the
17:11world because it's September 11th.
17:13And I know that persons may have had family members right here in Trinidad and Tobago who lost lives there
17:20in that incident that took place on that set date.
17:23And, you know, it was something that we saw online that was trending where we saw the past presidents that
17:29were present showing their respects at the location of those incidents.
17:34So to the families here for September 11th, that, you know, lost family members, loved ones, friends, you know, I
17:42know it's not going to be easy.
17:43Yeah, no, certainly.
17:44And I tell you, I have a friend, a good friend that died in that situation.
17:51Strange enough, the person, they were one of the helpers, helping persons in and out and so on.
17:58And, you know, while they were doing what they were doing, I think they contracted a disease and eventually died
18:04coming out of it.
18:05And people, there are those who would have been directly, yes, yeah, all right, and cancer and so forth.
18:12And there are some people who, again, they experience loss in one way or the next, you know.
18:18We do send out sympathies and condolences and just letting them know, even from the Trinidad and Tobago police service,
18:25that this is a time, it's a time, it's a sad time, a time of mourning.
18:29But at the same time, it's a time of strength because it's good to see how America bounced back again.
18:35And I think that...
18:36The whole world stopped.
18:36Yes.
18:37The whole world stopped at that moment.
18:38Yes, and the fact that they bounced back, I think that it reminds us that we can be a resilient
18:43people.
18:44And therefore, you know, I really pray and hope that once we carry the memories of those loved ones, they
18:51are never forgotten.
18:52I understand it's like a total of 14 persons who were Trinbegonians that passed.
18:57So, again, I mean, we send our sympathy to the families and during this time.
19:02Right now, it's time for us to take a look at what's happening with our SOE because I know you
19:06all are busy and it seems like you might have another extension coming.
19:10You don't know.
19:11In fact, I heard, I heard it's not, it's stopped to be.
19:14Oh, it stopped to be.
19:15I heard so.
19:16Oh, well, we will see how it goes.
19:18But as of now, here's your SOE update as of September 11, 2026.
19:25Number of operations, 13,155.
19:29Number of targets, priority offenders, 3,357.
19:34Searches conducted, 4,524.
19:37Traffic operations, 8,197.
19:42Total persons arrested, 5,802.
19:45Total persons charged, 1,383.
19:49Firearms recovered, we're seeing no increases there, but a total of 318.
19:54Ammunition recovered, no increases there either.
19:57And it's a total of 6,414.
20:00And dangerous drug sees, we're seeing an increase with cannabis.
20:04DCP?
20:04Yes, let me just say that as we, you know, look at our stats, we are pleased for a lot
20:11of different reasons.
20:12I think that the DCP operation, DCP Martin, and this whole operations being spearheaded by the Commissioner of Police,
20:21a fantastic job was done.
20:23Because even when we look at those PDOs and even those that we were able to see persons being charged,
20:32especially in this SOE, we've seen probably the highest rate in terms of percentage,
20:38nearly about half or more of those persons who had PDOs, they were at least charged or would be charged.
20:44And I think that is just phenomenal.
20:46It means that the police service, we are working, we are not just talking the talk, but we are walking
20:52the talk.
20:52And I want to just commend, you know, the Commissioner of Police and, by extension, DCP Martin and all her
20:59teams.
21:00It means that even DCP, you know, George and the intelligence team, we also did their part.
21:08And therefore, it was an all-round team effort.
21:11And, you know, this is what we want to continue to see, even as we probably come out of this
21:16SOE,
21:17that we really build a stronger unity together in terms of every person understanding that we must work together
21:24in order to have Team TTPS accomplish its goal.
21:27So, it was really a wonderful experience and it continues to be a growing experience for us.
21:33Team TTPS.
21:35Right now, let's take a look at what's making today's headlines.
22:10And those are your stories making today's headlines.
22:12Remember, you can give us a call at 623-1711, extension 1996 or 1997.
22:19We'll be back.
22:21All right, guys.
22:21Today, we're going to start a new topic.
22:23And that topic is entitled...
22:36There is no way I could teach in all that noise.
22:40And there is definitely no way we children could learn in that noise of violence.
22:46They deserve more.
22:47That fear, that anxiety.
22:50We have to have our classrooms filled with joy, laughter and hope, not fear.
22:58That is why I support the TCPS School-Orienting Policing Initiative.
23:03This is not just about law enforcement.
23:06It's about building trust.
23:09Parents, teachers, students and officers all coming together to provide a safe space where young minds can flourish.
23:19If we all stand side by side, we can protect our children, keep them safe, and they can have a
23:29space to learn without anxiety and fear.
23:33I am ready to partner with the TCPS in fostering safe, respectful, and empowered schools across Shunadad and Tobago.
23:44It's not a simple task.
23:46We need parents, students, teachers, and communities to get involved.
23:52It's time to get on board.
23:55Securing our schools.
23:57Securing our future.
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26:14And welcome, Mark.
26:15If you're now joining us, we have DCP Benjamin here with us.
26:18And I want to start off by saying, I can't say we have to recognize a few.
26:23It's more than a few.
26:26465 officers will recognize when it comes to exemplary attendance, recognition, and a ceremony.
26:32Tell us a little bit more about that.
26:33First of all, with me, I want to do, as my commissioner always say, clap for that.
26:38Yes.
26:39Yes.
26:40My commissioner always says that.
26:42I like that, yes.
26:43I mean, certainly, we had a wonderful time today just honoring, you know, our officers.
26:49And I want to commend the commissioner of police.
26:51And the reason I'm doing that, because what you recognize, and I mean, I've been in the police service for
26:57the last 37 years.
26:58And I can tell you, I have not seen any commissioner of police that has really, in one calendar year,
27:08honor so much of his officers in so many different ways.
27:12So oftentimes, we honor those who are outside there, and they have done, you know, valiantly in terms of, you
27:19know, doing things, bringing, you know, firearms off the streets.
27:23But this was one time where we honor those who silently, consistently, faithfully, over a period of time, showed that
27:31level of faithfulness to the job.
27:34They could stay home, and there are times that they're feeling sick, but yet they come to work.
27:38And therefore, we honor those who, for at least five years or more, have not taken any sick leave before.
27:45We honor those who are 10 years.
27:47Now, we are honoring those who have five years or more without sick leave.
27:50And it was a wonderful sight to know that we could find at least 465 persons or more that fill
27:59that role.
28:00And the commissioner really was all praise to these persons.
28:05I want to just commend, you know, these officers by letting them know that, you know, we see you.
28:12And I think sometimes you need to let your officers know that, hey, we see you.
28:15We see your faithfulness.
28:16We see your commitment.
28:17There are times that your family telling you, hey, you know, stay home, you know.
28:23And the commissioner made a point in that.
28:26He said, you know, some people said, look, you have 14 days.
28:30You're crazy.
28:31That is my days, you know.
28:32But you know what?
28:32These people did not take a single day in the last five years.
28:36And we just want to commend them and just say to them, you are the true heroes.
28:40You are the ones that we are saying that, you know, what you do in silence, it matters because sometimes
28:48you do not know the impact that you have because this is the type of model we want for our
28:52officers to say, hey, follow me as we set a new trajectory for the police service.
28:58A job well done.
28:59And 465 officers were recognized.
29:04Yes.
29:05And seeing, I mean, other officers watching this, it should be motivation.
29:09It's not just not staying home, eh?
29:12Doing your work.
29:13It's not saying, I'm going out today and I just not staying home.
29:16But they're making sure that their job is done.
29:19It is something that we need to continue seeing.
29:22It gives also to the public, citizens like myself, that there are officers, more officers willing to be there in
29:31the service because they're not there to just collect a check.
29:33That's right.
29:34It's more than that.
29:35And, you know, I think it was DCP Martin was making in her speech that, you know what?
29:41You showed up.
29:43You know, when you could stay home, you showed up.
29:45And every single operation, it can only be successful because you showed up.
29:51Yes.
29:51Every person who comes to make a report, hello, and you go out there, it is only because a police
29:57officer showed up.
29:58Yes.
29:58And these are the officers who showed up every single time for the last five years and did not take
30:05a sick leave.
30:05And therefore, we just really want to see how proud we are as an organization to know that we have
30:10faithful officers.
30:11And they come from different ranks.
30:13They come from different sections.
30:15And we honor those under the DCP administration.
30:19We honor those under the DCP intelligence and investigation.
30:22And also under the DCP operation.
30:25And therefore, we commend the commissioner for just having that really, you know, that foresight, that, hello, we can really
30:32motivate our officers and show them that level of appreciation.
30:36So that as they do their job, you know that there's a faithful executive that is a thankful executive who's
30:44really proud of them.
30:45And, you know, together we can really change the trajectory of what it is to be a police officer.
30:50And it's also nice to see because the officers need that push.
30:55They need that recognition.
30:57Yes.
30:57They need the praises.
30:58And the reason why I'm saying that, this is not an easy job.
31:00Yes.
31:01Persons come at you every single day.
31:03Your skin has to be extremely thick.
31:05And when I stand here and I come for some of them too, they see me out and they'll be
31:09like, so, because they're so, and I say, listen, sometimes when you all slip up, I have to say when
31:14you all slip up.
31:14But I also, when you all do great things, we have to recognize that.
31:18Because if given the chance for other persons to talk freely, to stand in the shoes of any of those
31:24officers that we're seeing here, it is not going to be an easy one.
31:27Some of us might fall up.
31:29Some of us, one day, send me home.
31:31I don't want to be here.
31:32This is not for me.
31:33So still standing with everything that comes with wearing that uniform, it is something that we have to show the
31:39great officers who continue to, as you say, team TTPS.
31:42TTPS, yeah, fly that flag extremely high and understand the importance of their role and function because they are persons
31:50out there rooting for them.
31:51Yes, yes.
31:52And we just want to, again, just thank the families of these officers.
31:57These officers could not do their job without the support of their families.
32:00And therefore, as we're here, we are grateful for the officers.
32:05But we really want to say thank you to the families.
32:07Thank you to, you know, the sons and daughters who have given their fathers and mothers the opportunity.
32:13Thanks for, you know, the husbands and wives who allow, you know, their spouse to be.
32:17But thanks to, you know, Trinidad and Tobago for just, you know, just being there for us as well because
32:25I think that overall, you know, we need each other.
32:29And even as police officers, we recognize how important for us to show up and get the job done.
32:34And what the commissioner says, that needs our...
32:37That's right.
32:37Yeah, he said, clap for that.
32:39Clap for that.
32:40Clap for that.
32:41Clap for that.
32:41We have a call on Old Caller.
32:43Good evening.
32:45Hello.
32:47Hello, sir.
32:48Hi.
32:48Could you take off the volume on your television set, please?
32:54Good evening.
32:56Yes, and good evening, Mr. Lane.
32:58Good evening.
32:59Good evening, Mr. Meritmore.
33:01This is the only chief family first.
33:03I must congratulate all the officers who got this, um, promoted yesterday.
33:11And, um, should I say, um, congratulations, extra, extra congratulations to ACP Francis.
33:19I have never met him in person, but I had a problem and he helped me solve it.
33:26And since that day, we became phone friends.
33:29And he's a gentleman, everybody gets a gentleman, but special, cool, Christian, and may God bless him and continue to
33:38do his good work.
33:39And, um, congratulations to, um, Mr. Nichols.
33:46He was unique to work in the Mallory Police Force, and I have learned a lot from him.
33:51He has taught me a lot, and we became good friends.
33:54And I am a member of the police service, but in Plain Clothes.
33:58Have a good evening, guys.
34:00Thank you so much, ma'am.
34:02Hey.
34:02Hello.
34:03Ma'am, I thank you for serving.
34:05Thank you for serving.
34:06Just as I will thank all my officers, all right?
34:09Even though you're a police officer in Plain Clothes.
34:11Yes, yes.
34:11Yeah, great.
34:12Awesome.
34:12I love it.
34:13I love it.
34:13I love it.
34:13But, yes, to all the officers that were promoted, it was really a wonderful time, you know, because, you know,
34:21behind the scenes, you know, it was that time where, you know, the list was about to close.
34:25But, you know.
34:26No more acting.
34:26Yeah.
34:27Well, at least from that.
34:29From that aspect.
34:30Yeah.
34:30So, um, it was really good.
34:32And the commissioner, you know, detailed, ensured that we max out as much as we can within the law, as
34:39much persons to be promoted.
34:41And, you know, it was just a wonderful time to be with those officers.
34:45And our promotion is a wonderful thing.
34:47But, as I always tell people, it is much more than the rank.
34:52It's much more than the insignia.
34:54It is about a responsibility.
34:55And, therefore, I am certain that these officers are officers who have been tried and tested in terms of their
35:01leadership ability.
35:02And we try to make a police service.
35:04We are all the better for these officers being promoted.
35:07They certainly do deserve it.
35:08And we wish them all the best.
35:10All right.
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38:12And we are back.
38:14Now, if you're not joining us, we have DCP Benjamin here with us.
38:17And, of course, always a favorite.
38:19And he's always willing to be here with us.
38:21Now, we missed one individual, which is another favorite of mine.
38:25I'm not able to get her on the show yet.
38:27And hopefully she will make a presence.
38:29But she's operational.
38:30She's always on the go.
38:32But she was also out of the 465 officers that were recognized when it comes to their attendance.
38:38We have DCP Martin, who, I mean, five years, no sick leave, no sick leave.
38:48And, I mean, you just have to feel proud.
38:50Because I'm saying this is what leadership does.
38:53You have to lead from in front.
38:55You need to let people know that, you know, we have, even in terms of our leadership and our executive,
39:02we have officers.
39:03And we have quite a number of first division officers, ACPs, as well as we also had quite a number
39:10of senior superintendents, et cetera, that really were also in the mix.
39:15And it just shows you that we seek to lead from in front that it's about consistency, discipline, reliability.
39:23And we are really proud.
39:25I'm really proud for, you know, DCP Martin and the work that she's doing.
39:30And I think that, again, this was just a wonderful award to add to all the other awards that she
39:35has ever had.
39:35You know, because she's doing a fantastic job.
39:37She's dedicated to the job.
39:38So I will give, of course, DCP, Susan Martin, a clap for that.
39:43All right, we have a call on.
39:45Old Kola, good evening.
39:47Hi, good evening, Miss Neve.
39:48Hi, good evening to you.
39:49How are you, sir?
39:50And you're Mr. Benjamin.
39:52Yes, pleasant good afternoon.
39:55Well, I'd like you to have a new commissioner.
39:59But I'll speak on behalf of the police officers and the police officers and the police officers and so forth.
40:05A little monetary value.
40:07No matter how small it is or some appliances that they remember for their recognition of a plaque.
40:13That is fair.
40:15And we talked to everyone here at all.
40:18Okay.
40:19All right.
40:19So, again, without saying too much, every single person in that envelope got a certificate and something extra.
40:31That's what I was saying.
40:31Well, that's what we know.
40:32Every single person.
40:33So, don't think that was just a piece of paper that was being a piece of paper.
40:37That envelope had a certificate and something to show, you know, from the commission of police that as an organization,
40:46we are thankful to TTPs.
40:49And, therefore, and for every officer, I'm stating that they were smiling and they weren't crying when they see what
40:55was inside you.
40:56That's what I could say.
40:57Oh, sure of that.
40:57Yeah.
40:57We have another cold caller.
40:59Good evening.
41:01Hello?
41:02Hello, good night.
41:03Hi, good evening.
41:04Good evening to the TTP there.
41:08Good evening.
41:09I must commend the COP on doing an excellent job in the motivation of the officers of the TTP.
41:16I have full faith in him and I hope he continues to do other jobs.
41:22Two questions.
41:23Two quick questions.
41:35Good evening.
42:03All right.
42:03Thank you so much, Sue.
42:05Okay.
42:06So, let me probably deal with the badges.
42:10All right.
42:10The badges.
42:11The situation was really one where we, at one point in time, we had some ribbon, the problem with the
42:19ribbon.
42:19We finally got through due to procurement.
42:22we got through with the ribbon and then we had a manufacturer problem so we had to call in the
42:27manufacturer and right now we're at that point where the manufacturer is seeking to recalibrate
42:33the machine so that we can get it for use all right so we are working very seriously on that
42:40because it's important for our officers to have their ids and also it is a very important part
42:45even for our civilian staff as well to have their ids so it's something that we are working on
42:50ongoingly and from an administrative standpoint let me assure you that we're doing everything
42:54possible to make sure that we can deal with this you know our problem as quickly as possible
43:00in terms of the idea of the whether kilograms or grams please understand that when you go out here
43:08and you seize cooking sometimes you get a large number of quantity of cooking sometimes a small
43:19quantity obviously if you have it in grams then therefore all you have to do is divide by a thousand
43:26and you can know how much of those grams are kilograms all right so it is certainly not wrong
43:31to have it in grams you just have to do it in a thousand and then you could now see
43:35if you see
43:36seventy thousand grams then that in itself is saying it is seventy kilograms so it's just a matter of
43:44mathematics and therefore um we bring it down to grams so that we can account for every unit or as
43:50much as possible of what was received so one kilo is a thousand grams yes so when we do the
43:56maths that
43:57is how you get your grams that you see in there all right so we take that break we'll be
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45:50so
46:03now walking listening connecting was the movements that we saw with the ttps in the community of
46:10arima and last week they had their community engagement drive so let's take a look
46:23good afternoon my name is avalon frank senior super acting of the northern north division
46:31and today i'm here i'm expecting my deputy commissioner of police mrs susette martin
46:38right and we are going to engage the community today with a walkabout and we're going to have
46:44some coffee and conversation and as you see we have a mixture of persons from the police and the
46:50community and that's what it's all about we're going to engage the community in order to bring
46:55that partnership closer between the police officers and the community and it's all about making our
47:01space here in arima a safe place so where we can have information and we can have even development
47:08of the youth city community we have um some projects we have at this time for um ongoing
47:15which will better foster that relationship and i don't want to have much to say at this point in
47:20time because we want to engage the community right and we have um the mayor who are just
47:27born mr ballyham who has just joined me right and today as i said it's all about the community
47:33this initiative we are hoping that um we bridge the gap with the civilians the persons of arima
47:40with the with the police well to me it's important to bridge the gap between the community and the
47:46police you know to make the place safer you know to um you know because times now you know we
47:53need we
47:53need we need that connection to deal with all of the issues that you know we are dealing with
47:57at present there's no secret over the years that arima had a lot of crime situations in the past 15
48:05years and we're hoping that we could close some of these gaps by having this sort of involvement
48:11the arima police station council was geared to come to to close that gap between residents
48:18as well as ttps in terms of a partnership bringing information working with the youth bringing trouble
48:25situations even before it happens so this is about bringing a holistical view for arima to bring
48:32arima together to make it once more the great borough of arima
48:58so
49:03you
49:04you
49:37And that was the community engagement drive that we saw in Ariba.
49:41And we saw the lady who has taken zero sick leave for the five years.
49:49We have DCP Martin who was present.
49:51And I love what was on the tissue and was the three L's that were there.
49:55And I see, I wonder if you see that, Roy.
49:57Yes, the three L's.
49:58I love it.
49:58It is engaging and it is one way.
50:01If you all missed it, it's listening, learning and leading.
50:04Ah, boy.
50:05First of all, I just want to tell DCP Martin that she needs to make me a copy of that.
50:10I want my jersey.
50:12But that's such a wonderful thing.
50:14I mean, that is exactly what we're talking about, the heart behind the badge.
50:19It is not just about, you know, directing people, but you going out there with the officers.
50:25I commend also Senior Superintendent Frank who is there with her and going out with the mayor and they're going
50:32to meet people.
50:33It is about that strengthening that community engagement.
50:37And therefore, that's the step in the right direction.
50:39This is what we want to see from the very top down.
50:42And we are hoping that this is going to really foster a greater and stronger relationship with the community and
50:49with the citizens, knowing that as police officers, we are here for you and we want to support you.
50:54No, you know, I want to ask you something, dealing with, I mean, you have worked with females throughout the
50:5930-something years.
51:00You have been within the TTPS and seeing where, at a point in time where we would not have seen
51:07female officers at the executive level where you sit, you are now working alongside females.
51:13And what, in your opinion, your humble opinion, that these females bring to the TTPS at that executive level?
51:20Because they bring amazing work and their presence regardless.
51:25That's the thing.
51:26I saw, I was there when Commissioner Euler Christopher was there and we had the two DCPs.
51:34So, I can say I'm mother and two sisters and I'm the only son inside here.
51:40You know, but I saw there strong women.
51:44These were strong women who knew and understand and understood exactly what was their plan and purpose, how to deal
51:53with their work.
51:54And therefore, I really think that that's one thing that women have, especially they have a nurturing kind of spirit.
52:00And I think that's what makes them very transformative kind of leader, you know.
52:07And I think that a lot of things, for the ladies that I work with now, they are very, very
52:13orderly.
52:14Okay.
52:15And they are very, very constructive.
52:17And I think they are forward-thinking as well.
52:19So, I see them as my sisters and as the senior one, I'm the bigger brother.
52:24Yes, of course, the bigger brother that's there, right?
52:26Yeah, but we are team and we are family.
52:29So, the reason why I ask that, I know, well, we're speaking civilian here now, not at the level of
52:35executive within the TTPS.
52:37But, please don't say when you're back up on a female police, when they stop you, your expression alone says
52:45it all.
52:46They're different from the males, you know.
52:48They're assertive.
52:49Okay, you can say how much you want to say, but the female you may not be able to get
52:54away with.
52:55You know, again, I don't want to say I have no empirical data to prove, but I am just saying
53:01it has been said.
53:03Yes, well, that's what I'm saying.
53:04The reason why I'm saying that is because where we see DCP Martin in the position she's in in operations,
53:11that's zero blies.
53:12Yeah, but, you know, you see, one of the things I can tell you for sure is that, especially dealing
53:20with her, she's really one of those that really seek three things.
53:25One, fairness, you know, she's firm, she's fair, but at the end of the day, she's friendly.
53:31All right.
53:32And nothing.
53:32So, I think I'll put that on my jersey now.
53:34Yes, yeah, we have to get out.
53:35I like the three L's.
53:36We have a caller.
53:37Caller, good evening.
53:39Yeah, pleasant evening to the Deputy Commissioner of Junior Benjamin.
53:41Benjamin and Brittany Hanson.
53:43Good evening.
53:44Good afternoon.
53:46Mr. Benjamin, I grew up in Tobago.
53:48I went to Chicago Junior Tech three years, and now I've been here for two years, right?
53:53So, we are class of 1986.
53:55I think you were under up.
53:58And to see how Tobago is right now, I'm very disappointed.
54:03I'm not too far from retirement.
54:04And if I'm to live in the village that I grew up in, to see how that village has become,
54:12it's degrading, it's disgraceful, with criminal elements, and, as Gary Gifford will say, cockroaches.
54:22And, um, my, my proposal, you see this, um, police mobile unit that you all want to, I think you
54:30all have a station in, I'm sure, by now, before it used to be old bridge.
54:35And my advice is, if you put in a station or mobile unit in Plymouth, don't put it by, don't
54:43put it by the pavilion, it's quite on the ground.
54:45Put it at the entrance, or in the road, the road to go Arnoldville to La Catole, or La Catole,
54:51or put it at the entrance when you're going to Plymouth.
54:55So, you don't have a proper response time, and it will be in a strategic position where you can have
55:02rapid response.
55:04But to put it by the sports field, by the pavilion that I'm hearing, I don't need to, if it's
55:09factual, that it's making no sense.
55:12And I'm talking, I'm liaising with people in the village that I grew up in, and they are saying the
55:18same thing too.
55:19Put in that mobile post by the sports field.
55:24All right, thank you so much, sir.
55:26All right.
55:27So, Mr. Benjamin, I want you to take this very seriously, because I retire soon, and I don't want to
55:32go back, and live in no place that's kind of out of control.
55:37Yes.
55:38Thank you so much, and, um, I mean, when I'm talking to,
55:41you know, my fellow-to-be unions, I mean, I understand exactly what has been said.
55:47I would have been two years after that I graduated in 88 from Signal Hill.
55:52So, we understand exactly, and the point that he's bringing is a very good point,
55:58in terms of, even in terms of where he suggested.
56:02It is also a very strategic point.
56:04Something I will look at, and I will probably even share, and see what could be done in relation to
56:09that.
56:09Nevertheless, I'm just saying that the mobile post is just one way of solving the crime.
56:17I think if we really want to solve the crime in Tobago, Tobago is a place where you could have
56:22left your door open,
56:23and you could have gone out.
56:25You can't do that again.
56:26And I think that we need to come back to understanding that sometimes it takes a community to raise a
56:32child.
56:33Every single criminal would have been at least a child yesterday, who might be probably a man today.
56:41Today, correct.
56:41But if we come together now and try to save those younger ones, we can save a generation.
56:48So, therefore, I think that we just need to work together as a community, work with the police,
56:53and let us see how we can come up with initiatives, even as I talk about the script and all
56:58the different things that is really about changing.
57:00Now, we have a final caller, quickly.
57:02Caller, let's take that call before we wrap up.
57:03Caller, good evening.
57:05Good evening.
57:05I want to congratulate the host and all the guests that appear on the program.
57:13I feel confident with you all.
57:17Fifteen years ago, I had a personal incident, and the people in court, depending on the federal,
57:23but actually the head of the police service is taking a no-nonsense approach.
57:29And, even by example, I wish that all the security services of this country would take an example from the
57:36CTPS.
57:38All right.
57:38Thank you so much, sir.
57:39We appreciate that.
57:41DCP, Benjamin, we'd like to thank you so much for being here with us.
57:43We appreciate you.
57:44And, of course, the door is always open when you're able to step in.
57:48Sure.
57:48All right?
57:49So, we appreciate you.
57:49Have a great weekend.
57:50A blessed one.
57:51Those of you out there, be safe.
57:52We have news coming up next at 7.
57:54And remember, continue being a hard target next week, Monday, same time, same place.
57:58God bless.
57:59We're out.
58:00Oh.
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