00:00So, I know we got some Brown stuff to talk about, and we'll get back to LeBron.
00:06People were incensed about Banana Ball at Wrigley.
00:10They thought it was sacrilegious.
00:13Were they playing the party animals?
00:16They know the firefighters. It was a big deal.
00:20Wow.
00:20Firefighters. Party animals are too busy.
00:23Probably still recovering.
00:24I feel like they, yeah, well, it's a late night.
00:27They're on a never-ending bender.
00:29And I saw Kerry Wood do one of those, I haven't seen this in a long time,
00:33where he goes through the old-school, old-timey wind-up,
00:38and then he throws it behind his back and over his head,
00:44and then still comes through.
00:46I mean, it was a sight to behold.
00:49And it was a strike. They didn't even need ABS.
00:53I mean, Banana Ball, is there anything better?
00:55I love Banana Ball.
00:56It's fun.
00:57Ken does not.
00:58I can tell you that, Ken.
01:00Ken's the fun police on that.
01:01Well, just wait until 2027 when you want to see some baseball.
01:07It's going to be Banana Ball.
01:09It is a, during the stoppage.
01:12You imagine.
01:13It's going to be a harder ticket than the Masters.
01:16Of course.
01:16It already is.
01:18Because I tried getting tickets when they came to Cleveland,
01:21and I couldn't get in.
01:23I signed up for it, and then I got five emails the day before and the day of that were
01:28like,
01:29hey, we just got some more tickets in.
01:31If you want to get in, you want to go with your family and get in.
01:34But you had to do the lottery again, right?
01:36No, I was already through the lottery process.
01:37Oh, you got in.
01:38So I did not get in the lottery.
01:40And then the day before, we got a bunch of these tickets if you want to come get these tickets.
01:45Well, where did you wind up sitting?
01:47I winded up not going because I wasn't going to spend that amount of money the day before.
01:52Had I won the lottery, we would have spent the money.
01:56Because I would have known months ahead of the time that, hey, we're going to drop a couple hundred.
02:01Three easy payments, and you can do it.
02:03You can be at Banana Ball.
02:04I do it through all of my tickets through Home Shopping Network.
02:06I have to say, though.
02:07And on FlexPay, what they do is harder than Major League Baseball.
02:13Oh, boy, here we go.
02:15Here we go.
02:16Forget about LeBron.
02:18Forget about Jerry, Judy, Gate.
02:21Are you listening to what Daryl's saying right now?
02:23Some of the stunts they do with the baseballs.
02:26A lot of gyrations.
02:27Are you trying to tell me throwing off stilts is harder than throwing a 100-mile-an-hour splitter?
02:34It's not easy.
02:35I don't believe you.
02:36It's not easy to do what they do.
02:37I don't believe that you believe what you're saying right now.
02:39I mean, I watched the game.
02:41It just struck me.
02:43You know who Owen reminds me of?
02:44He reminds me of the dancing umpire in Banana Ball.
02:47I was just going to talk about the dancing umpire.
02:49Finally.
02:49I met him last summer.
02:51Okay.
02:51How does that man, how is he able to go through the rigors of Banana Ball training to get ready,
03:03to be certified, to learn all the rules of Banana Ball, and then have time to choreograph dances
03:10with random members of the Banana Ball team?
03:13It's amazing.
03:15Owen could do that.
03:17He totally could do that.
03:18He'd do the splits?
03:19You gotta do the splits.
03:21I'd do the banana split.
03:22If you can't do the banana split, Owen, well done.
03:26Unbelievable.
03:27That was quick.
03:29You have no room.
03:30They have no room for you in Banana Ball.
03:32We have to split from this conversation.
03:33And we will, because, folks, it's training camp week.
03:36We have Daryl Ryder in studio.
03:38And Daryl, you are excited to, it's the one week of year to be optimistic.
03:44Before Daryl talks, I want to remind everyone that he's, of course, brought to you by Shive
03:48and Jewelers, Cleveland's premier jewelry store.
03:49And this is the time for optimism.
03:53It is.
03:53We can talk about all the great draft picks that Andrew Barry has made over the last two years.
03:57The fact that we have some legit, at least on paper, wide receivers.
04:02Yes.
04:03In camp, there are going to be some great competitions.
04:08And then what happened?
04:10What happened with Jerry Judy and Deshaun Watson and Shador Sanders and the fans?
04:19Now, I will admit, I am aging out of some of these conversations.
04:25I am now too old to monitor the social media and the live streaming.
04:31And so I can't be bothered to monitor every player on the Cavs, Guardians, and Browns.
04:38I just don't.
04:38I have kids now.
04:39Before that, and before the marriage, and before the owning of a house, I had time to devote
04:46to all this stuff.
04:47I no longer do.
04:48I can't keep up with you kids.
04:50I can't keep up with the vocabulary.
04:53You better keep up with the vocabulary if you've got kids.
04:56The mogging and the maxing.
04:58I'm officially too old.
05:00You're chopped.
05:02I'm chopped.
05:03I'm washed.
05:04It's over.
05:05Well, we've got to at least get someone that's on that age group level.
05:09We do need.
05:10This is where Ace and Gary come in.
05:12We need to send Lima to the glue factory.
05:13I know.
05:14It's very sad.
05:15It's a very sad state of affairs.
05:16But at least you've got to have awareness, right?
05:18Have you put out the signal to anyone young enough to be able to find a lot?
05:24Yes.
05:24So young John, who I believe is getting close to passing his probationary period with us.
05:30He did great work at the All-Star Weekend.
05:32He's close.
05:33He got out to Philly, covered All-Star Weekend.
05:37So, you know, we've had boots on the ground.
05:39He's going to be at training camp this week getting his Cleveland Browns indoctrination.
05:43But over the weekend...
05:44You mean I have to babysit this week?
05:45Yes, you do.
05:46Oh, yes, you do.
05:47He's going to carry all your cables and your wires and your cameras and your equipment.
05:53You're unk to him.
05:55Yeah, we're going to talk about that, too.
05:57Owen got called unk by his kids.
05:59He should be called dad, but somehow got called unk.
06:01That's neither here nor there.
06:02John, I put you to the task over the weekend to figure out what in the hell this even came
06:09from,
06:09what it is.
06:10Was there editing?
06:11Is it legitimate?
06:13Did Jerry Judy indeed sign off on one quarterback over the other?
06:18Because this was met with a ton of controversy in Browns fandom over the weekend.
06:24Yeah, it blew up on social media yesterday.
06:26John, what have you found?
06:27So, here are the facts.
06:29Jerry Judy went live on TikTok, and somebody asked him, you know, who do you want to start
06:34a quarterback?
06:34In the clip on social media, you can clearly see a jump cut.
06:39This was edited, and the jump cut flashes to Jerry Judy flashing a four.
06:44Now, there are two ways to interpret this.
06:47Number one, the more fun way where Jerry Judy is saying he wants Deshaun Watson to start
06:52a quarterback.
06:52Now, granted, something that young people do, and I don't know how young Jerry Judy is.
06:57He's not a younger player in the NFL, but he's still in his 20s.
07:00Sometimes young people will flash the number four, especially when they're taking pictures
07:05for social media.
07:07So, that could have been what Jerry Judy was doing, but I choose to believe that he was
07:11saying Deshaun Watson should start.
07:12Now, you guys mentioned he did actually come out on Twitter and say, you guys are making
07:17this up, you whatever, like, this isn't true, this is your narrative, this is edited.
07:21It was edited.
07:22I think Jerry Judy wants Deshaun Watson to start, but I also think that he could be doing
07:28this for attention.
07:28Think about it, right?
07:30Of the Browns wide receivers, Jerry Judy was probably the fourth most talked about wide
07:35receiver behind Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston and even Isaiah Bond.
07:41So, Jerry Judy may be doing this for attention.
07:44Who knows?
07:45Oh, he was flashing the number he is on the depth chart.
07:49Nice.
07:49Number four.
07:50Well done, Gumshoe.
07:52We have our private eye.
07:54That was way better than I thought it was going to be.
07:59And the music's amazing as well.
08:02Anything to add while the music is still going?
08:06Ah, Jerry Judy, why are you doing this?
08:09Why are you drawing attention to yourself?
08:11Like, we talked about Shador, and we'll get to this probably later on, Shador being a celebrity
08:15quarterback, Jerry Judy does not have enough leeway or enough clout to be a celebrity wide
08:22receiver.
08:22Maybe when he was drafted out of Alabama, he did, but ever since the Steve Smith Seniors
08:27thing happened, Jerry Judy, you do not have the clout to be doing this right now.
08:30All right, so here's how it normally works.
08:32The private eye does all the digging.
08:35They put together all the information that's available that was comprehensive, that was well-rounded.
08:42I think you did more research than a lot of the idiots who jumped to all sorts of crazy
08:48conclusions immediately.
08:49You might be the second best private eye in the NFL this offseason.
08:54Is that a Russini-Vrabel?
08:56Hey, you take that as well.
08:57That's pretty good.
08:58Did you see Mike Vrabel bring the dog?
09:00He herbstrated his way through a press conference.
09:03That was good, too.
09:04He's resorting to using puppies to distract everyone.
09:07He needs to do a different one and do an adoption thing every single press conference.
09:12It's amazing.
09:13Mike Vrabel.
09:14That is good work.
09:17By the way, Deshaun Watson needed this dog in the worst way.
09:22He needed it in the worst way when you know what hit the fan.
09:26Now, I'd say there's another former quarterback who could have used a dog, but his problem involved
09:32dogs.
09:33We won't go there with Michael Vick.
09:34So, Daryl, let me ask you this.
09:37The private eye just assembled all of this information to you.
09:42Do you guys now this week have to address Jerry, Judy, Gate with the quarterbacks?
09:49It's got to come up.
09:51Yeah, we do.
09:52See, this is the Cleveland media.
09:54This is what they do.
09:56This is why stuff festers.
09:58This is why the Browns are losing football team.
10:00Things like this, this segment, and this beat reporter, and this private eye, and this host,
10:06and Ken scripting bootlegs for his kids for youth football.
10:11This is why the Browns lose.
10:14To give him an opportunity to explain himself.
10:17And the edit, and whatever else he feels he needs to say, to make everybody believe that he does not
10:29have a preference of who wins the quarterback competition.
10:35Which, oh, by the way, I have a feeling every player on that offense has their preference of who they
10:41want to win the quarterback competition.
10:43They have favorites.
10:45Like, it's just human nature.
10:46That's normal, right?
10:47Yeah, it's natural.
10:48Expressing it publicly, maybe not the best thing to do.
10:51And I'm not saying that Jerry did that.
10:53He went on social media.
10:54Did he or didn't he?
10:55I thought we just went over this.
10:57Multiple posts on social media to dispel the perception from that edited TikTok live video of him expressing a preference
11:09to have Deshaun Watson be the starting quarterback.
11:12I'll say this, I think Jerry Judy just needs to focus on one thing and one thing only this year,
11:16and that's catching the football.
11:18And then hanging on to it when he does catch it.
11:20He had a very bad year last year.
11:23Bad year, especially for a guy that the Browns committed to and gave him a nice contract after some not
11:31-so-good years with the Denver Broncos.
11:34So, he really needs to hone in on focus on himself and bouncing back strong from what was a very,
11:42very bad year.
11:44He had a bad attitude last year.
11:46He was awful on the football field.
11:49I mean, he got into it with Shador, too.
11:50Yeah, and you know what?
11:51You know how many times Shador Sanders could have gone after him for stuff he screwed up?
11:55And Shador didn't do that.
11:56But Jerry didn't hesitate to try and show him up on the sidelines.
12:00Yeah, I got to be honest.
12:03We were warned.
12:05I feel like I did some of the warning.
12:07We were warned about Jerry Judy from the get-go.
12:09They were desperate.
12:10They hadn't been able to draft wide receivers.
12:13So, they traded for one.
12:14Somebody with a lot of talent.
12:16But there's 1,000 wide receivers that have talent.
12:18What he was doing to compensate for his inability to draft wide receivers in the third through fifth rounds.
12:23Yeah.
12:24Because, remember, he traded for Amari.
12:25The Amari Cooper thing was great.
12:26It worked out great.
12:27Right?
12:28You gave up, I think, a fifth-round pick for Amari.
12:30You ended up getting two 1,000-yard seasons from him.
12:33And then you traded him at the right time.
12:34Not only did you trade him, but you got a third-round pick for him when you did it.
12:39I think it could be time to move on from Jerry Judy.
12:42I think it was time to never get in bed in business with Jerry Judy to begin with.
12:46I feel like they figured that out.
12:49But maybe they're going to try to salvage it one last time.
12:52We got to go.
12:52But I never want to be in the Jerry Judy business.
12:55And this is the reason.
12:57And I saw.
12:57He was also flashing the watch with Deshaun Watson.
13:02That's fine.
13:03Whatever.
13:03There's a lot of watch flashing.
13:04A lot of bling flashing for Browns players that, you know, one of the worst teams in football last year.
13:09I think that's.
13:10But I'm old.
13:11That's what the kids are into these days.
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