00:00Our quarterbacks are not resting on their laurels, Kenny.
00:03Based on social media, our quarterbacks are hashtag grinding.
00:09And I love to see it.
00:11And it tells me that we could be in for a big year
00:14because I'm seeing some workout videos.
00:15I saw one where Shador Sanders was closing his eyes
00:22and throwing passes.
00:24I mean, chucking passes, eyes closed.
00:27Like, this is stuff I'd never seen before.
00:30And he had never seen them either because his eyes were closed.
00:33Apparently then Deshaun Watson and Concepcion,
00:37and he was just throwing darts.
00:38And I know Mary Kay said the shoulder was an issue.
00:41I saw no evidence on this one throw that they showed that loops
00:45because when you're on social media, it just loops.
00:48Just one throw.
00:48And you're like, did I see eight throws?
00:49No, it was just one throw.
00:50But then I saw Shador Sanders, and it was like dinner time,
00:55fourth workout of the day.
00:56I'm like, four workouts?
00:58Man, Josh Allen, I don't see any evidence that he even has had one workout.
01:02And our quarterback has four?
01:04And then is there even more after that?
01:06Is there five and six?
01:08Like, these guys, they are on the grind.
01:10They are on the hustle.
01:12And I'm telling you, I just think this is setting up.
01:15Todd Munkin has clearly planted that seed that you guys, gentlemen,
01:22are in a competition.
01:24Get out there.
01:24Close your eyes.
01:26Throw some passes.
01:27Workout hustle.
01:28Workout ride.
01:29Workout lunch.
01:30Workout dinner.
01:31Workout.
01:32None of this is real.
01:33Go to the D3 schools.
01:34Workout some more.
01:35Have Jim Trestle come and hang out.
01:37What's the matter with the D3 school going to work out?
01:38It's right down the street.
01:39I saw them both.
01:40Both of them.
01:41On the same field?
01:41On the same field.
01:42Are they together?
01:43I didn't know they were on the same field.
01:45Now, is it, yes.
01:46Is it at the same time?
01:47Or is it your turn and your camera crew?
01:50And then we'll reserve later on my turn.
01:52I believe they both meet at the 50.
01:54They take 10 paces each way.
01:56Why don't they just borrow each other's film crew?
02:00Why have two different film crews just have one film crew?
02:04No, you need your own film crews.
02:07Are the film crews competitive with each other?
02:10Are they competing?
02:11Yeah, of course.
02:12Can one quarterback win, but the other quarterback's film crew advances?
02:16Like, how does that work?
02:18That I don't know.
02:19I feel like we're leaving a lot on the cutting room floor when it comes to the film crew.
02:24I saw Shador workout videos.
02:25I did not see any Deshaun Watson workout videos.
02:27There's a Deshaun Watson workout, which is oddly enough because I was there for a Deshaun
02:30workout video being made once, which was wild.
02:33There's also a recent one of him on one knee punching the air several times.
02:38This is recent?
02:39Yeah, Deshaun.
02:40Okay.
02:40By the way.
02:41Is he visualizing?
02:42I don't think I'm really critical of any of those workouts.
02:45Like, I see LeBron on that bouncy ball doing the thing, and I'm like, that's got to be
02:49very difficult, and anybody ripping him for it's got to be silly.
02:51So I'm not going to rip.
02:52And by the way, I know what I look like, so I'm not going to rip out workout videos.
02:56So this is a totally fake thing.
02:58None of this is real.
02:59What do you mean it's fake?
02:59It's not fake.
03:00The workouts are really going on.
03:01But the whole argument over it is fake.
03:03Because one, this is not a competition that's played out in the public.
03:07This is not a campaign.
03:09It's not a campaign.
03:11Nobody's voting for this.
03:13Wait a second.
03:13What?
03:14Yeah, there is.
03:15Todd Munkin is voting for this.
03:16That's not a vote.
03:17That's a dictatorship.
03:19That's not how it works.
03:20You're basically comparing him to Putin then.
03:22And remember.
03:23You can have your votes all you want, but you know who's going to win.
03:25I still haven't seen Deshaun Watson.
03:28I haven't seen him present a gift yet to Todd Munkin the way Shador did.
03:32I don't think he would want that.
03:34It would probably mix it up even more.
03:36Let me point this out.
03:39It's not a public vote.
03:41If it were a public vote, Shador Sanders would win in a landslide.
03:44He would have 80% of the vote.
03:48Because you would have 20% that might go to Deshaun Watson,
03:52except 10% don't like either of them, so they would just abstain.
03:56So that doesn't matter.
03:58So he would have 80% of the vote.
04:02Would you say if you had to pick between the two?
04:05Like, again, there's some Browns fans.
04:06They don't like either of them.
04:07They tell us every day.
04:08Fine.
04:09But if you had to pick between the two,
04:12nine out of ten Browns fans I think would pick Shador Sanders over Deshaun Watson.
04:15I think so.
04:16Okay.
04:16So it would be the greatest landslide in election history.
04:19Even more than Reagan.
04:21All right?
04:23It would be – it's not a competition there.
04:26The only competition is to Todd Munkin.
04:28Does Todd Munkin care about workout videos?
04:31No.
04:32Does anything on the internet?
04:33I know he's on Twitter somewhat.
04:35I don't even know if it's him or maybe it's a family member, but fine.
04:39Yeah, what?
04:40Well, he can just drive right down the street and watch them.
04:42I don't know if he's allowed.
04:44I don't know if they're allowed to be in the same spot.
04:46He should go stand on top of Mid Park High School.
04:48Oh, okay.
04:49With binoculars.
04:50Right in.
04:50Like little giants?
04:51Yeah.
04:51Yeah.
04:52Look on in.
04:53He could do that if he wanted to.
04:54I guess there's ways to do it.
04:55You don't think Todd Munkin loves hearing that his quarterbacks are, quote, grinding?
05:00I think he's glad the guys are taking it seriously.
05:02I'm glad – I think he's glad the guys are working out because he hasn't made his decision
05:06yet, or at least not to anybody else he has.
05:08So I think he's probably happy about that.
05:10But I don't think he cares about any of the workout videos or anything like that.
05:13Because I know it's like, hey, you can look good and you can be in really good shape
05:16and you can throw a frozen rope.
05:17I mean, we had Brandon Whedon here who was hitting clay pigeons and doing all the parlor tricks
05:22there.
05:22But when it comes to reading the defense, what did Brandon Whedon do?
05:24That's right.
05:25Jack, you know what?
05:26So when it comes to all this stuff, it doesn't matter, Anthony.
05:29But Shador, it's not even about reading defenses now because Shador's eyes are closed.
05:33And if you can do that with your eyes closed, I mean, you've got –
05:36His eyes are closed in a video?
05:36It's said five of five at the bottom of the video.
05:38His eyes are closed in one of the videos?
05:40Yeah.
05:40Really?
05:40Yes.
05:42You've got to see it.
05:43So if he's able – think about that.
05:44If he's able to get to the line of scrimmage process, understand the defense to such a
05:49degree that his eyes can be closed when he's delivering the football.
05:51I'm actually just kind of curious and I'd like to see that.
05:53But that's for after the segment here.
05:57Because that might be kind of a cool skill, but again, it goes right back to what?
06:01What?
06:02A cool skill.
06:03But that doesn't make me want to start him as a quarterback.
06:04Patrick Mahomes throws no-look passes in NFL games.
06:07And what that did was ruin a whole lot of other people because there's a lot of other
06:11idiots who tried and they just threw disgusting pics because they didn't know what the hell
06:16they were doing.
06:16Him and Matt Stafford ruined people on Instagram.
06:19They really did.
06:20A whole generation of quarterbacks right after those guys are like, oh, I'm going to try
06:24it too.
06:26Anyway, so let me get back to it.
06:29None of this matters.
06:30If you want to start a fight between the Deshaun people and the Shador people, fine.
06:35But there's way more Shador people than there are Deshaun people.
06:38I don't know if there aren't any Deshaun people out there really.
06:41And when it comes to Browns fans, again, I don't know if there are any either.
06:44So that doesn't really matter.
06:45None of this matters.
06:47Todd Munkin doesn't care.
06:48Todd Munkin is only going to care whether or not that they know the offense, that they
06:51can make the throws, but they really know the offense and they can duck the offense and
06:54they can move the ball down the field.
06:55And that he has confidence in him and that the other players have confidence in their
06:58teammate.
06:59That's what matters here.
07:00You're telling me about workout videos and I know you're having fun with it, but if they
07:03want to make workout videos for their brands, knock yourself out.
07:06That's fair.
07:07You guys got sponsors.
07:08You guys got obligations that you have to meet.
07:10You guys have fan bases that take up the content.
07:13I'm serious.
07:14Bring all the cameras out.
07:15We're in a new media age.
07:16We're in a completely different era of athlete.
07:19Shador Sanders will not be the only quarterback with cameras following him around wherever
07:22he goes.
07:23That argument, it died at the beginning of last year.
07:27Get used to it.
07:28It ain't changing.
07:28And for some of you guys, and I'm talking to even some of the people in the Cleveland
07:31media here, I'm not trying to do family on family stuff here, but for some of you guys
07:35who are out there, even Jason, I guess I'll call him out by name because he said it on
07:38this show.
07:39Well, if he can't start, he's got to be cut.
07:40You think that he's the last guy that you're going to deal with with a wild fan base?
07:45Really?
07:45This is only the beginning, folks.
07:47They go to different schools all over the place.
07:50There's guys who I've written down already in different positions as well.
07:53They're in four schools as I'm getting ready for the 2027 draft class to watch the 2026
07:58season.
07:59They're in four schools.
08:00They have their own fan bases.
08:01So it's not like, well, this guy went to Oregon, so he's got a big Ducks fan base.
08:06It's all on them now.
08:07And so just get used to it if you're in the media.
08:10And for them, that's fine.
08:12For us, whatever.
08:13It's on you to get used to it.
08:15But for Tom Munkin, his job's still the same.
08:17Can you conduct the offense?
08:18Who's better at doing that?
08:20Who's got more confidence with his teammates while conducting the offense?
08:23Who can conduct the offense, has confidence with his teammates, and can actually complete
08:28passes?
08:28Well, that's part of conducting the offense now, isn't it?
08:30All those three things, and plus many other things that we don't even know about, are
08:35going to contribute to whoever starts the season at quarterback.
08:38So we can watch all the videos we want.
08:39I hope that all the fan bases are happy with their guys' workout videos.
08:43Is Dylan Gabriel doing workout videos?
08:44I know.
08:44I haven't seen anything from Dylan Gabriel.
08:46I have not heard from the Dylan Gabriel delegation.
08:48Is Talon Green doing workout videos?
08:51Or is he just going zero dark 30 and he's in the lab?
08:54Now, some people do that too.
08:56Some people are into not showing all the work that they are doing.
08:59So, there are plenty of different ways to go about it.
09:04Well, if they don't have the market that Shador Sanders or Deshaun Watson does, I guess they
09:07don't have to.
09:07But if they do, you better get a camera crew out there and get it going.
09:11I got nothing against them, but the whole thing about the workout stuff, this is, that's
09:16July, man.
09:17That's just July.
09:18I would hope.
09:19It's the only real competition for quarterback in the NFL.
09:23Those aren't my words.
09:24Who said that?
09:25Jeremy Fowler.
09:26Okay.
09:26It's the only real quarterback competition in the NFL.
09:30I thought it was Field Yates.
09:31Oh, was it?
09:31Okay.
09:32Might be either one.
09:33Well, what's the Kyler Murray situation?
09:35They both have to take care of it.
09:36They're both on different beats reporting right now, grinding Field Yates and Jeremy Fowler.
09:41They're grinding.
09:42Hashtag.
09:43But this is the only one.
09:44So, I hope they're doing everything they can to win the job.
09:47But I don't think any video is going to help Todd Munkin make his decision other than
09:51the tape they see in practice every day.
09:53Because they're not going to leave their starting quarterback this year to a vote.
09:57If they did, then we still wouldn't see anything with Deshaun Watson.
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