00:00Tell everybody what you want to tell them.
00:01Here we go. Here it comes.
00:03How did we miss this?
00:05Last night, overnight, we have breaking news.
00:12Quarterback.
00:12You're going to do it again.
00:14Model.
00:16Actor.
00:17He models?
00:18Oh, yeah.
00:19I don't know if he models or acts.
00:20Yes, he does.
00:21He acts?
00:21Yes.
00:22In what?
00:23That singer, songwriter, Shador Sanders, has released his new single.
00:32We're not allowed to play it, I imagine.
00:33We're not allowed to play it.
00:34Just take a pause and then flip over to that, listen to that, come back.
00:39And then we'll come back.
00:41There's nothing here about him acting or modeling anything.
00:44Oh, yeah.
00:44He was modeling at the ESPYs his bling.
00:48Oh, no.
00:49You're right.
00:51You're right.
00:51He walked in the Louis Vuitton fashion show.
00:55Heck, yeah.
00:55April of this year.
00:56Boy, I'm not.
00:57I remember that.
00:58You guys all say I'm a cult leader.
01:00Wouldn't a cult leader know that about Shador Sanders that he modeled in a fashion show?
01:04You got to be up on your Shador.
01:06He released his new single called Turn Back.
01:13Now, I tried to find some lyrics.
01:15I jotted a few of them down.
01:17And then he starts out his first.
01:22Now, there's a nice piano interlude.
01:24I was confused.
01:24And I think he does play the piano.
01:26Well, now I got to know.
01:28My son plays the piano.
01:30Really?
01:30I got something.
01:31I have something.
01:34What time?
01:35How old was he when he started?
01:39Sorry.
01:40You got me funny.
01:42You got lessons in everything?
01:44It was an overrated experience.
01:46Has he done a recital?
01:48No, no.
01:48He just started like a year ago.
01:50And he's kind of getting after it.
01:52We got him a keyboard and everything.
01:54He's going to be the Tennille of Captain of Tennille someday.
01:59His first lyric is, too many people want to see me fail.
02:05Now, he says, I know I'm.
02:06Just name it.
02:07Anthony Lima wants to see me fail.
02:09He says, I know I'm living free.
02:11I'm living in a cell.
02:14Thank God he doesn't mention you in a song.
02:16Because I would never be able to shut you up.
02:18Why would he mention me?
02:20Because you're one of the people that want to see him fail.
02:24He talks about being legendary.
02:27He doesn't deny that.
02:27I just wrote a lyric in my head.
02:30You want to say it out loud?
02:32So, I listen to it.
02:34Anthony Lima kind of needs to get off my behind.
02:40You can have that one, Shadour.
02:42First one's free.
02:45I listen to it.
02:47Got a real Harry Chapin over here.
02:48I am far from a modern-day contemporary hip-hop and R&B analyst.
02:55You're too old now.
02:56Too old now.
02:56I'm over the hill.
02:57I did go see Chris Brown and Usher.
02:59You were recently, yes.
03:00And they were not over the hill.
03:01They were awesome.
03:02Yeah, but they were singing their old stuff.
03:03They were.
03:03Which is over the hill.
03:04Four over-the-hill folks.
03:06Don't come back to the messenger here.
03:08Honestly, now there's a lot of the, what's the tuning called?
03:12Auto-tune.
03:13Auto-tuning going on.
03:14But he sounds like Drake.
03:16I mean, there's a lot of Drake.
03:17Sounds like, to me, to be like Drake from 10 years ago.
03:20So, this is a new album, not just a single?
03:22No, it just says there's a single.
03:24Okay, and the single is called Turn Back.
03:26Yeah.
03:27And one of the lyrics is about people want to see me fail.
03:29It's the first lyric.
03:31Now, the piano playing could have been Shiloh.
03:34Oh, okay.
03:34Shiloh's the one that plays piano.
03:36More, it says Shador occasionally plays, but Shiloh's known for his viral piano.
03:42Piano.
03:42Okay.
03:44Well, I hope it's very good.
03:46I hope it's very good.
03:48Do you have anything else you'd like to say about it?
03:50I'd like to have him perform it live, right here in studio.
03:55Well, this isn't little desk.
03:57Now, that would be on the tiny desk.
03:59Yeah, that'd be great.
04:01He can come in this little sausage closet here.
04:04Yeah.
04:05Sing it in the sausage closet or play it in the sausage closet.
04:08If he wants to come in and play, you know I'll clear everything out.
04:11I will tell Zach Meisel to pound sand if Shador Sanders wants to come in here.
04:16Now, his big, I don't know if it's a catchphrase or his motto, and many in his camp consider
04:23him a modern-day philosopher.
04:25They look up to him.
04:26He's so influential.
04:27He is always very positive.
04:28See, I should have just ended the conversation there because I know what you're doing here.
04:31He is very positive.
04:32He likes to say legendary a lot.
04:35It's all about being legendary.
04:37Do you think right now, Ken Carman, that Shador Sanders will end up with a legendary football
04:43career?
04:43Right now?
04:44How can I say yes?
04:45Well, it's just you're projecting.
04:47I mean, his chance to start this year for the Browns.
04:49They're retooling the team.
04:51They've got new wide receivers.
04:52I want him to.
04:53New offensive line.
04:54New head coach.
04:54I want him to, but I have to remain in reality.
04:57If I would say yes, then I would say that there's no competition between him and Deshaun
05:02Watson.
05:03Since there is a competition, a legitimate one, between he and Deshaun Watson, then I can't
05:08say he's going to be legendary because one guy is far from legendary.
05:12And his dad is legendary.
05:14Yes, his father is legendary.
05:15So it's a lot to live up to.
05:17It is.
05:17But I think it is the type of, like we talk about bulletin board material all the time.
05:25Like he has a very, very high bar to try to hit.
05:30Of course.
05:31And it all starts with him being able to wrangle away this, whether if you believe
05:37that it's Deshaun Watson's job, there are people that say, wow, we've talked to Browns
05:41players.
05:42They all seem to think it's, it's Deshaun Watson's job behind the scenes, the rumors.
05:46I haven't talked to anybody that said that.
05:47We haven't.
05:48Oh, okay.
05:48But people tell us all the time.
05:50Oh no.
05:50I was, these guys, these receivers.
05:53Yeah, but I know, but then they hear these clips and then they think that we, remember
05:56we had that whole thing.
05:57I had to sit there and go, guys, I'm not, no, I didn't win there.
06:00It's a definition of hearsay.
06:01I wasn't even there.
06:01Yeah.
06:02It's a definition of hearsay.
06:03I'll be at camp, but I wasn't at the other ones.
06:05But they make it seem like, oh yeah, everybody knows.
06:07Everybody in that building knows.
06:08It's Deshaun Watson's job.
06:10Okay.
06:10Well, that's the type of stuff.
06:12I hope that's not true.
06:13That's the type of stuff that leads to the, that, that added motivation that somebody
06:17like Shador who wants to be legendary can try to seize whole.
06:21And what a story it would be, by the way, what a story if any of the stuff about Deshaun
06:26Watson is the leader or whatever, what happens if Shador Sanders can eventually wrestle away
06:33then I don't have to do the starting job.
06:35I don't have to do the whole draft thing.
06:37I mean, I still had to put it out there and I got what?
06:40I got Arch Manning, Dante Moore, Julian Sainz, CJ Carr, Jayden Maiava, Sam Levitt.
06:44I got to put Brendan Sorsby on the shelf.
06:46Lenora Sellers, Byron Brown, Drew Mestemaker, Darian Mensah, Josh Hoover, DJ Lagway, Rocco
06:53Beck.
06:53That's the top 15 guys I got written down there.
06:57I hope I don't have to use it.
06:58It'd be great.
06:59But you can wish you one hand and you know what and the other.
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