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John traces how Paul Cain became a living bridge between the mid-century healing revivals, William Branham’s prophetic world, the Full Gospel Businessmen, Kansas City Fellowship, John Wimber’s Vineyard movement, IHOPKC, and later New Apostolic Reformation networks. The discussion follows the people, publications, claims, and organizational machinery that helped transmit older Latter Rain and healing revival ideas into modern charismatic prophecy.
The episode examines Paul Cain’s reported angelic calling, his connections to William Branham and Minor Argenbright, the role of Full Gospel Businessmen’s Voice, early prosperity themes, German revival networks, Chuck Smith’s early connection to Cain, and the way apostolic-style networks helped create a framework for later prophetic movements. John also explains why proximity alone is not the argument; the concern is how repeated connections, funding channels, revival platforms, and leadership networks functioned together like interlocking gears.
00:00 Introduction
04:47 Paul Cain As A Living Link To Revival History
09:11 The Full Gospel Businessmen, Branham, And Paul Cain's Healing Story
15:19 Branham's Repeated Name Confusion And The Serpent Seed Context
20:16 Medical Claims, Competing Angels, And The Construction Of A Stage Persona
25:46 William T. Ferrari Von Blumberg, Germany, And The Fellowship Foundation
31:34 The Karlsruhe Chapter, Former Nazis, And The European Network
37:43 Chuck Smith, Foursquare, And Paul Cain's Expanding Platform
41:05 Early Prosperity Gospel Threads In Full Gospel Businessmen's Voice
43:38 Networks, Money, And The Machinery Behind The NAR
47:55 Kansas City Fellowship And The Prophetic Castle
49:50 Closing Thoughts
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The episode examines Paul Cain’s reported angelic calling, his connections to William Branham and Minor Argenbright, the role of Full Gospel Businessmen’s Voice, early prosperity themes, German revival networks, Chuck Smith’s early connection to Cain, and the way apostolic-style networks helped create a framework for later prophetic movements. John also explains why proximity alone is not the argument; the concern is how repeated connections, funding channels, revival platforms, and leadership networks functioned together like interlocking gears.
00:00 Introduction
04:47 Paul Cain As A Living Link To Revival History
09:11 The Full Gospel Businessmen, Branham, And Paul Cain's Healing Story
15:19 Branham's Repeated Name Confusion And The Serpent Seed Context
20:16 Medical Claims, Competing Angels, And The Construction Of A Stage Persona
25:46 William T. Ferrari Von Blumberg, Germany, And The Fellowship Foundation
31:34 The Karlsruhe Chapter, Former Nazis, And The European Network
37:43 Chuck Smith, Foursquare, And Paul Cain's Expanding Platform
41:05 Early Prosperity Gospel Threads In Full Gospel Businessmen's Voice
43:38 Networks, Money, And The Machinery Behind The NAR
47:55 Kansas City Fellowship And The Prophetic Castle
49:50 Closing Thoughts
______________________
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Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962
Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K
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00:31Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.
00:36I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research
00:41at william-branham.org, where history proves that truth, or at least their version of it,
00:46is truly stranger than fiction.
00:49In the many podcasts that we have done, we go through different histories that are in
00:55some way, shape, or form related either backwards in time to William Branham or forwards in time
01:02to William Branham.
01:03And William Branham is basically the linchpin for most of the research that you find on this
01:09website, although there are some background histories that we get into.
01:15But seldom do we give episodes that connect all of the dots.
01:20And it's always interesting to me whenever I'm watching the comment feeds of one of the
01:25podcasts, I find somebody who has actually connected the dots between two different, completely
01:31different sets of research.
01:33And honestly, out of everything that I do, that's the most exciting is watching somebody
01:38light up and say, oh, I get it.
01:40I connect those dots, but there are people who listen and either they haven't heard the
01:46other podcasts or they just really aren't, they don't have enough background information
01:51to connect all of those dots.
01:53And one of the things that I want to start doing as we go forward is to present a podcast
01:59that will help people to connect some of these dots.
02:02And if you're a person who is connecting the dots, maybe we'll give another spin on it that
02:08you maybe didn't think of.
02:10Or if you find something that I didn't, put it in the comment feeds and let me think of
02:15the thing that you thought of and I didn't.
02:17Because as we collaborate and we work together to unravel this history that has been so tangled
02:25in a spider web of deceit, the more eyes on it, the more perspectives we get, obviously
02:30the more information we will get.
02:32One of the stranger sets of research that I have engaged in is this latter rain to Colonia
02:42Dignidad.
02:43To anybody who's unfamiliar with Colonia Dignidad, it is a crazy fascinating milestone in history
02:51for the healing revivals.
02:53A person who is sympathetic to William Branham and the message cult was from Nazi Germany
03:01and set up a compound in Chile.
03:03And I can't say too much because the things that happened there were atrocious.
03:08But if you go to Wikipedia or some of the various online sources, you can even find it on the
03:14History Channel.
03:15You can find just how evil this compound was and the leader of it, Paul Schaefer, just how
03:22villainous he was.
03:24In our podcast, Revival History Series, we did an episode interviewing Carlos Bezo, who
03:33is a researcher, one of the foremost researchers for Colonia Dignidad, out of a university in
03:40Chile.
03:41And he started talking about things that just blew my mind away.
03:44He was talking about James Bond-style gadgets that they had, like in The Man with the Golden
03:50Gun, the golden pencil and all of this stuff.
03:53He said in the colony, they had things like this.
03:56And they had these meeting places that were up on top of a cliff where you could only get
04:01to by helicopter.
04:02It's just a really fascinating history.
04:05But I watched in the comment feeds, people are talking, well, what does this have to do
04:08with the healing revival?
04:09What does this have to do with the things that we see today in the church?
04:14And they don't realize that that is a milestone of history that links back.
04:18So today in this episode, I'm going to try to connect some of these dots.
04:22There will be histories that I'll talk to that you've probably heard before, because that's
04:27what I'm doing, is connecting dots of things that I've said before.
04:31But for this particular episode, I want to string it together through the use of Paul Cain
04:39of the Kansas City Prophets, Kansas City Fellowship, International House of Prayer in Kansas City,
04:44Branhamism, etc., Paul Cain is very important because he gave later prophetic networks a living
04:53human link to the older revival history.
04:57And I know that there are others that do this, but Cain is significant not only because of his
05:02work with the Kansas City Fellowship, but because he was one of the people that you could tie
05:08directly to the leadership of the movement and key figures of milestones of history in the
05:15Christian charismatic movements throughout time from the latter rain healing revival through
05:23the Jesus movement, Jesus people, all the way into the 80s, all the way literally until
05:27he died.
05:28He was such an important figure.
05:31Paul Cain was involved in the healing revival.
05:33He was one of the people who started to participate as a name nobody had heard.
05:40He did get connected to Branham, and the timeline of that is a little bit interesting.
05:46I want to get into some of that research and tie the dots together, connect the dots there
05:50for you.
05:52But after working with Branham and starting to get established, he becomes a transmission
05:58point for the prophetic celebrity networks that began to emerge.
06:03And because of this, his work with the Kansas City Fellowship was fundamental in molding and
06:09shaping what would become the New Apostolic Reformation.
06:12It was his work with the Kansas City Fellowship, the Kansas City Prophets, that he got connected
06:18to John Wimber and the Vineyard Platform.
06:21And through the work with John Wimber, the rest was really history.
06:26It began to explode into the charismatic movement.
06:30The worship style began to change.
06:32What you see in the New Apostolic Reformation really would have never happened without Paul
06:36Cain to be the backbone to this.
06:39And then when that developed into IHOPKC, International House of Prayer in Kansas City, now he is connected
06:46to all of the big names in the New Apostolic Reformation in ways that go far beyond just the prophetic.
06:53So he helped to establish some of the networks that we see, either directly or indirectly.
06:58I think in most cases indirectly.
07:01But Paul Cain was very significant.
07:03There are a couple other names that I'll mention because in the trail of history for Paul Cain and as
07:10it relates to
07:11William Branham, these are significant figures.
07:13The first of which I'll mention is Minor Argenbright.
07:17Often when we talk about the Full Gospel Businessman's Fellowship International, we talk about Dima Shakarian because of all of
07:25the interesting facts surrounding Shakarian and his connection to the Kardashian family.
07:30But not often do we talk about Minor Argenbright.
07:34Whenever the Full Gospel Businessman's Fellowship was founded, there was a co-founder named Minor Argenbright.
07:41And if you have a background in the Branham religion and you remember William Branham condemning all of these ministers
07:47and evangelists who drive Cadillacs because he could never do it,
07:52he could never take the people's money and purchase a Cadillac, Minor Argenbright is the person who gave William Branham
07:58his first Cadillac,
07:59which is another interesting side story.
08:02But needless to say, he was connected to William Branham, and the connection appears to be much earlier than people
08:08realize.
08:10Argenbright was born in Harrison County, Indiana, which is about 30 minutes drive from the Branham Tabernacle in Jeffersonville, Indiana.
08:17And according to people who have escaped the William Branham message cult of personality, Argenbright's family still has ties to
08:26the Branhamites today,
08:27as did Argenbright throughout his life.
08:30Now, he migrated to Los Angeles, California, and the timeline, it's a little bit sketchy.
08:37We can't really piece it together fully yet, but it's interesting that he's out there about the same time Roy
08:43Davis is out there
08:44and has these connections back to this area, which leads you to ask the question, were there more connections?
08:52Did the connections go beyond Branham to Davis?
08:55And for anybody who's followed the Davis research, that is significant, because Roy Davis was quite popular among all of
09:02the fundamentalists.
09:03So, there's a lot of history here to unravel, but Minor Argenbright, as it relates to Paul Cain, is key
09:10because of this one fact.
09:12Argenbright, William Branham, and the Full Gospel Businessmen helped to popularize Paul Cain's ministry in the mid-1950s,
09:21which is about the time that Paul Cain became a big name in the revivals.
09:25There's an article in Full Gospel Men's Voice, the publication of the Full Gospel Businessmen,
09:31talking about the deliverance of Paul Cain.
09:35And there's a few key things that you have to really pay attention to in this article.
09:40Number one, like William Branham, Paul Cain claimed that he was visited by an angel of the Lord.
09:48And in these publications, they always capitalize angel of the Lord.
09:52And just like William Branham, this angel came whenever Paul was very young and allegedly told him that he was
10:00going to be this great faith healer.
10:03You can read the story.
10:04I skipped through most of that and just pay attention to the details, because in the details, you'll find how
10:11to unravel all of these ministries.
10:14But again, like William Branham, there's this great commission by God.
10:17He is using the angel as part of, I guess, his stage persona prop.
10:24But here's where it gets interesting.
10:26If you go to page five of the article, it starts talking about how Paul Cain was suddenly sick.
10:33And there was a death sentence that was looming over Paul Cain, which begs the question, could the healer not
10:40heal himself?
10:41That's, I'm certain, the question that everybody asked.
10:44Number two, he goes directly to William Branham.
10:48He phoned William Branham.
10:50So that shows the close connection that he had to William Branham in Jeffersonville, Indiana.
10:54And it says for two long, agonizing months, he, Paul Cain, drew nearer and nearer to death.
11:01In one final desperate plea, he phoned William Branham at Jeffersonville, Indiana, to see if he could use his, being
11:08William Branham's, his supernatural gift of healing in an emergency.
11:13But William Branham's gift operates by instructions from the angel of the Lord, not by his will nor the people's
11:21requests.
11:22So he could not offer much encouragement to Paul.
11:25Now, this for me is really interesting.
11:29Growing up, we heard story after story after story how people came and approached William Branham for their healing of
11:37their bodies.
11:38And there was never an instance in any of these tales where they said, William Branham turned us away because
11:44the angel of the Lord could not operate like this.
11:47That's not something that was done in these healing revivals.
11:50I can assure you this, but it is printed in here, which tells you that this was spinning off into
11:57a bigger tale than what was usually done in the Branham campaigns.
12:01And you've got this weird conflict.
12:04So you have the angel of the Lord who's allegedly working with Paul Cain.
12:08And that must be a different angel of the Lord that works with William Branham because Paul Cain's angel couldn't
12:14heal him.
12:14He goes to William Branham, who's operating through an angel, to see if Branham's angel can heal him.
12:20So you've got these two competing angels, one of which is lesser powerful than the other one, which is really
12:26weird.
12:27But if you continue, it says, at the same time, Full Gospel Businessmen's Vice President Minor Argenbright of La Crescenta,
12:36California,
12:37phoned William Branham in Indiana and learned that Paul Cain's condition without God's intercession was hopeless.
12:44So here you have Paul Cain connected to William Branham directly and by phone.
12:50You have Minor Argenbright connected to William Branham directly by phone, both of them calling over the same event, the
12:57same situation, Paul Cain's alleged need for healing.
13:01And nobody's asking the question, why can your angel heal and his can't?
13:04And worse, how come Paul Cain's angel can work and operate directly upon request and yours can't, William Branham?
13:13You're the leader of this revival, right?
13:16So this gets really, really interesting.
13:19It caused me to dig deeper into Paul Cain and his connection to William Branham.
13:24One of the most interesting aspects of this whole thing is the timeline and the inner circle of Branham.
13:33Because as we've mentioned a few times before, and I'll throw it here on the screen, we have a letter
13:38from Joseph Mattson-Bose, who is introducing Jim Jones to William Branham.
13:44Mattson-Bose, who was semi, I guess you would call his function basically an advertiser.
13:52But there was a period of time in which he was trying to rebuild William Branham's career after the voice
13:58of healing started to snub him.
14:00It just happened to be the mid-1950s, the same time that he's getting connected to Paul Cain, which is
14:08really odd when you think about it.
14:10Now, Joseph Mattson-Bose, he writes a letter.
14:13It says, Dear Brother Jones, talking about Jim Jones of People's Temple, Jonestown Massacre.
14:20And it says, basically, here's William Branham's phone number.
14:23You can call him at this number.
14:24You can write him at this mailing address.
14:26Always mark it personal.
14:28In other words, you won't get through to him unless you mark it personal.
14:32And there's some names in here.
14:34Reverend A.W. Rasmussen.
14:36He was the head of the Independent Assemblies of God.
14:39Another interesting name that you'll find in this letter is Claire Hutchins of Marantha Temple.
14:44This is the same Claire Hutchins that is of the Brooklyn Tabernacle, the famous Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir.
14:52All of these people are in William Branham's inner circle.
14:55Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir guy Claire Hutchins, Joseph Mattson-Bose, Paul Cain, and the FGBMI magazine basically was telling everybody, telling
15:05the world,
15:06Paul Cain has just now had an instance of deliverance, and he is fit to go on the road again
15:12with his angel of the Lord.
15:14So when I began to dig into Paul Cain and his connection to William Branham, I found that he was
15:19actually connected to Branham earlier than this in 1951, and something very strange stood out.
15:25The very first time that he is mentioned in a revival, William Branham says, I don't know him, but he's
15:32a brother.
15:32What's his name?
15:33And somebody says, Paul Cain.
15:35Now, that's not so problematic.
15:37You can forget a name, but the name Cain is pretty hard to forget.
15:42If you read the book of Genesis, it is one of the key figures in the book of Genesis, although
15:47if you consider William Branham's serpent seed doctrine and his doctrine that Satan was the designer of women from the
15:54creation, maybe he didn't read the book of Genesis.
15:57I don't know.
15:57But if you go to the next day in the same series of meetings, he says, I understand that there's
16:04a brother King here.
16:06And somebody corrects him and says, no, that's Paul Cain.
16:09So day two, he's already forgotten the name again.
16:12Day three, at this point, you're asking yourself, did he really forget?
16:16Is this part of the stage act?
16:18He says, Reverend Mr. King.
16:21And somebody corrects him and says, Brother Cain.
16:24And by the next night, the fourth night, he says, if I'm not mistaken, Paul Cain is going to continue
16:29the revival on fast forward a few years.
16:33And that same trick happens again.
16:36He starts talking in this is in April of 1956.
16:40This is the point in time in which he's already working with Jim Jones.
16:44And he says, I don't remember his name.
16:47What's his name?
16:47And somebody says, Paul Cain.
16:48He says, oh, Brother Cain.
16:50And so you can see that there's something a little bit odd about all of this.
16:56Yes, people can forget.
16:58Yes, I'm terrible with names myself.
17:01But the name Cain is pretty hard to forget.
17:03Even for me, I would struggle.
17:05I would struggle more to forget than I would struggling to remember that.
17:10So a little bit odd.
17:11But nevertheless, he is connected.
17:13And this is a time when William Branham is rebuilding, repurposing his campaign team.
17:19And he's trying to separate and distance himself from Gordon Lindsay because of a spat that was happening between all
17:28of them over William Branham serpent seed doctrine, which is another key part of this timeline.
17:33It is about this time that William Branham is starting to show his roots back to Roy Davis and the
17:42very racist ideology that he was trained with.
17:46And there were ministers rising up against him about the time that he starts working with Jim Jones.
17:52And there's a series of death prophecies against William Branham in the mid 50s, which is something we'll get into
17:59probably in another podcast.
18:02But this is all about the time that all of this is coming together.
18:05It is during this time, after he connects with Cain and connects with Jim Jones, that he starts to become
18:13very open about his belief in pushing the serpent seed doctrine, the idea that Satan mated with Eve to produce
18:23Cain, the name Cain, and all of the evil lineage throughout time came through Cain's bloodline.
18:30That was William Branham's theology.
18:32William Branham So all of this is coming together.
18:35And again, we're focusing on Paul Cain.
18:38But look at all of the many connections.
18:40When you consider the Full Gospel Businessmen's Fellowship, fast forward to the 80s when the charismatic movement is taking off.
18:48This is one of the most invasive charismatic organizations that existed.
18:53They were basically funding all of the big ministries.
18:57People like, what's a good example?
19:00John Osteen.
19:01Joel Osteen's father, his whole ministry would have just collapsed had it not been for the Full Gospel Businessmen.
19:08The Full Gospel Businessmen apparently paid for his tent, sponsored his meetings, and launched his career into fame.
19:16And he would later connect with William Branham again in Houston, Texas in another event we'll talk about later.
19:24But it's really odd when you see how all of these connections, they all seem to go back to William
19:29Branham.
19:30And then they separate and then they come again back to William Branham.
19:33Now, if you read these articles and you're reading it from the mindset of somebody who really believes, you're a
19:40believer in this movement, you read it and you think, oh my gosh, this is wonderful.
19:44The angel of God came down to Paul Cain.
19:48And if you read it critically, you're wondering, well, why do we need two angels of God around this healing
19:53revival movement?
19:54But I'm certain that there were people who believed it fully and they said, I wonder which angel is better.
20:01Should we go to Paul Cain's angel or should we go to William Branham's angel?
20:05I just don't know which angel is better.
20:07Well, this article kind of seals the deal.
20:09William Branham's angel is powerless.
20:11Whenever you think about this person has something that we need healed now, can you heal us?
20:16Oh, angel of God.
20:17So there are some logic flaws.
20:19The biggest of which is like all of these documents that are in these magazines, there is no medical documentation.
20:27Whenever they claim tuberculosis or cancer or breast cancer, all of these different things, they really never tell you how
20:35they establish that.
20:36And as we have shown in some of the previous podcasts, often the establishment of those claims were simply the
20:45healer detected it before the medical industry even knew that this was a problem.
20:50And when the lady or the, I think it was a lady in the last example we gave, whenever the
20:55lady goes to the doctor, it's gone 100%.
20:57She is healed, praise God.
20:59But it was never diagnosed.
21:01That's one of the problems with it.
21:03But the other thing is that there were some contradictory claims.
21:09Paul Cain, and I don't know if anybody's really thought about this, Paul Cain often told the story about how
21:14the mother and the baby, his mother, were certain to die.
21:19It really never explains how all of that came to be.
21:23If you think about how that would have been established, the mother's sick, well, how do they know the baby's
21:30about to die?
21:31And then when the baby's born, he was born healthy.
21:34So was he really sick?
21:36Or did somebody just say that he was sick in the womb?
21:39We don't know.
21:40So there's a little bit of improbable things that could play out there.
21:45But think about the more improbable is the stacking of medical issues.
21:52Advanced tuberculosis, breast cancer, cancer penetrating a lung, three cancerous tumors in the womb.
21:59Whenever you stack all of these fatal conditions, you're heightening the drama.
22:04But it also creates this credibility problem because, well, did they really have that?
22:09Did they also have that other thing?
22:11Oh, my gosh.
22:12Did they have the third and fourth, fifth, however many things they give?
22:15But these ministries back in the 50s, they liked to do that because the more fearful things that you could
22:22give the person who's, quote, unquote, healed, the more amazing and miraculous their healing was.
22:29It's not just one thing they were healed by.
22:31They were healed by all of these other things.
22:33And I don't know that anybody's really thought through that with Paul Cain.
22:37But for me, the biggest thing really is this angel because this creates a huge problem.
22:44You've got competing angels of God, one who can heal upon request and one who can't.
22:50How do you come up with this stuff, man?
22:52But that's what they advertised.
22:53And that apparently worked because Paul Cain began advertising himself as a minister like William Branham not long after this.
23:02Now, I've mentioned this before in other podcasts, but it's worth bringing up again here.
23:07Right after a meeting with William Branham, Paul Cain's secretary gets caught as a bank bandit all throughout the Los
23:15Angeles area.
23:15So you also have to ask the question, well, did the angel really know what was going on?
23:21Was that angel having the insight and the foreknowledge to discern all of the sins and evils of this world
23:28whenever he's got a bank bandit as his personal secretary?
23:33Paul Cain's personal secretary was a bank bandit.
23:36So there's so many questions to ask.
23:39But in the end, really, it comes down to this for me.
23:42What we see here is the creation of a stage persona.
23:45He probably had a different stage persona before before the second deliverance instance that we're talking about here.
23:53He was a quote unquote divine healer, and he claimed that the angel of God visited him at his birth.
24:00Otherwise, he would have not have been a healer, according to that backstory.
24:04Well, that story didn't make him famous.
24:07And so we added a new backstory.
24:09And the new backstory is he's just been healed of deliverance, and his angel was not powerful enough to do
24:16it.
24:16So we contacted William Branham's angel.
24:19William Branham's angel said, no, no, no, no.
24:21I can't do this.
24:23You can't just ask me for healing.
24:24And so instead, he goes through the deliverance ministries and the ministries themselves.
24:30As this thing is coming to a second surge of the healing evangelists, the second surge has a deliverance ministry
24:39that did, in fact, heal Paul Cain.
24:41More powerful than the angels, and we are the ones to witness this supernatural power.
24:47Have you ever wondered how the Pentecostal movement started, or how the progression of modern Pentecostalism transitioned through the latter
24:55reign, charismatic, and other fringe movements into the new apostolic reformation?
25:01You can learn this and more on William Branham Historical Research's website, william-branham.org.
25:08On the books page of the website, you can find the compiled research of John Collins, Charles Paisley, Stephen Montgomery,
25:16John McKinnon, and others, with links to the paper, audio, and digital versions of each book.
25:22You can also find resources and documentation on various people and topics related to those movements.
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25:47Another name that I've mentioned from time to time on the podcast is a really interesting character.
25:53His name is the German Baron William T. Freire von Blumberg, who is one of William Branham's campaign managers and
26:01was on the director's board of the Fellowship Foundation.
26:04The Fellowship Foundation, for anybody who is unfamiliar, it's one of the most politically and well-connected organizations that help
26:13secretly fund different ministries in the United States.
26:17And it's really odd.
26:19It's like a fraternal order for lobbying different policies in Washington, but the members have to share a vow of
26:27secrecy, which leads to all kinds of weird questions.
26:31And there are some documentaries out there.
26:33The Fellowship's former leader, Douglas Coe, I think was his name, was very close to the people in Bethel Church.
26:43In fact, you can find Chris Vallotton talking about how they went to the house of Doug Coe and what
26:49a great guy he was.
26:50Well, before Doug Coe, before Bethel, way back in time, you had William T. Freire von Blumberg and Paul Cain
27:00and William Branham and others who were working to try to establish different chapters of the Fellowship Foundation and the
27:10Full Gospel Businessmen's Fellowship worldwide.
27:13And there was a tour that William Branham talked about frequently where he toured through Europe, and that's what they
27:19were doing.
27:19They were establishing these two organizations.
27:22What's interesting is if you look at the National Prayer Breakfast in Washington, it's followed very closely behind it with
27:30the Full Gospel Businessmen's Breakfast.
27:32So you had these two entities that are somewhat disconnected, all shrouded in secrecy, funding different organizations.
27:41You really don't know what all is being funded.
27:44But there was a German connection through William T. Freire von Blumberg.
27:49And I, whenever I had my phone call with Paul Cain, my series of phone calls with Paul Cain, I
27:55think in two of those three calls, he mentioned his trips to Germany.
27:59He said that when he went to Germany, it was usually because William Branham was not permitted to go back
28:06in.
28:06And so William Branham would call him up and say, hey, Brother Cain, would you go to Germany for me?
28:12I can't go there.
28:13I'm not allowed back into the country, which raises this whole array of questions.
28:18You know, why is he not allowed?
28:20But more to the point, why was Paul Cain the one that he chose?
28:25And with Freire von Blumberg involved, Freire von Blumberg was the adopted cousin of Wernher von Blumberg, which was Hitler's
28:35minister of defense.
28:36You start asking all these questions that some of them lead into Nazi questions, especially when you read research like
28:43the secrets of the SS talking about the South American Reich.
28:48And they mentioned Colonia Dignidad, which I mentioned earlier.
28:52This was the place that it was basically the landing place where the Third Reich Nazis would escape into South
29:01America, ending up in Argentina and other countries.
29:05But they would land at Colonia Dignidad, otherwise known as the colony.
29:10And when you read stuff like this, it really raises a lot of questions that can't be answered.
29:16Some of them have been answered through the work of Carlos Basso and others who have actually gone to Colonia
29:22Dignidad and dug through their document cache underneath the in the labyrinth underneath the colony.
29:28But it raises for me the question, how much of it can be traced back to this baron William T.
29:35Freire von Blumberg and also considering the timeline as it relates to this podcast.
29:41Well, how much did Paul Cain know?
29:43And that's really the question that I wanted to answer in this podcast.
29:48Unfortunately, I don't know without resurrecting Paul Cain from the dead and asking him.
29:53I don't think that we'll ever know the depth of knowledge that he had.
29:57But what we do know is that through the Full Gospel Businessman's Fellowship and working with this German baron William
30:06T. Freire von Blumberg, we at least have some of the information that was actually published in the Full Gospel
30:13Businessman's Voice.
30:14In fact, in an article, Full Gospel Businessman chapters stirring Germany for God, you can read how vice president of
30:24the Full Gospel Businessman, Minor Argenbreit, and the editor Thomas Nichol came over to help Germans establish a chapter of
30:32the Full Gospel Businessman.
30:34And that is happening in Karlsruhe, Germany, the epicenter for our focus whenever we were researching and studying Colonia Dignidad.
30:44Karlsruhe is where Ewald Frank is, and if you know the Colonia Dignidad history, Ewald Frank was the person who
30:53is believed to have been supplying the colony with different things that are of suspect agenda.
31:02I'll just say it like that and keep it G-rated for the YouTube feed and for the podcast.
31:08But if you want to research that, you can go to the Colonia Dignidad history.
31:12Carlos Beso has written an excellent book.
31:15You can read it.
31:16It is, unfortunately, in Spanish.
31:18I had to translate it.
31:19But that history and that connection to the Germans and the insidious things that happened there can be traced right
31:28back to this moment that we're talking about in the Full Gospel Businessman's Voice.
31:33And if you read, it says, again, in July 1957, Dr. Guggenbel sponsored a meeting in Karlsruhe, as well as
31:41meetings in Louisiana, Zurich, Switzerland, at which time's brother Argenbright and Nichol came over to help him.
31:48The main evangelist was Tommy Hicks, a name that many people are familiar with, with Paul Cain and Raymond Ritchie
31:56assisting.
31:57So you've got Paul Cain, Raymond Ritchie, Tommy Hicks, the Full Gospel Businessmen coming over.
32:03And if you read on through, it says, at the July meeting last year, and that's talking about the July
32:101957, 15 nations were represented by those attending.
32:15During this time, much interest in Full Gospel Businessmen developed, and the Karlsruhe chapter was established.
32:22So what we're talking about here, William Branham comes to Germany, he is coming under the leadership of the Baron
32:31William T. Freire von Blumberg, who is the adopted cousin of Hitler's Minister of Defense, Warner von Blumberg.
32:41They come and they start setting up the chapters for the Fellowship International, very similar to what we have for
32:51the National Prayer Breakfast.
32:52They're doing this in other nations.
32:53And then falling on its heels are the Full Gospel Businessmen setting up all of these things, which raises a
33:00lot of questions, some of which I won't go into because it wades out into conspiracy theory.
33:06But needless to say, we're talking about something that is very important when you connect all of these pieces of
33:13the puzzle together, and right in the center of it is Paul Cain and Minor Argenbreit.
33:20So here's where it gets interesting.
33:22If you continue reading, and you make it all the way to page 18, you've read through how the Full
33:28Gospel Businessmen's Voice is advertising that through all of these wonderful meetings, we've converted the Germans to God.
33:35And not just the people who were already Christians and good people, we're talking about all of the people who
33:41were some of the bad guys during the war.
33:44And it goes through talking about the different places that they visit, essentially setting up Karlsruhe Germany as a hub
33:52that connects to all of these other European countries.
33:55And from there, I think they use the word beachhead.
33:58This is the beachhead where we will come, we will establish ourselves, and then we'll spread throughout Europe, which gets
34:05interesting if you think about Paul Cain's influence in Europe.
34:08And if you go down to page 18, there is a picture there, and it's describing Captain Fritz Schoffel, I
34:16may be pronouncing that incorrectly,
34:18cinder on horse, shown marching through France with Hitler's armed forces in June 1940.
34:24In the background, the ancient fortress and the cathedral of Leon, 17 years later, Captain Schoffel, now a college professor
34:33and editor of a Full Gospel magazine,
34:36was chosen as president of the Full Gospel Businessmen's Chapter in Karlsruhe Germany.
34:40The former officer in Hitler's army is now an officer in the army of Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace.
34:48Now again, a conversion to Christ, doesn't matter your background, etc., except for the fact that there are some stipulations
34:58that should probably be made within leadership.
35:02If you have a background that might make you dangerous, well, I'm not certain that that's a good fit for
35:08a Christian leadership position.
35:10However, that is what they did.
35:13And as you can see with the case of Paul Schaefer, who had some horrific things in his past and
35:20his background, especially with children, which I, again, I'll keep it G-rated for this episode.
35:26You can go to Wikipedia and you can read about all of the terrible, terrible things that were happening.
35:32Some of the people that they chose in this leadership position for this movement weren't authentic conversions to Christ.
35:42I'll just say it like that and keep it at that.
35:44They were people who had no conversion.
35:47They had no real experience.
35:49They had no change in their life.
35:51And so they continued on to not only do bad things, but they used the movement as the vehicle to
35:59do some of those bad things.
36:00And that's where, for me, this gets really problematic because I'm weighing on the one hand.
36:06Here is a movement that is advertising itself as doing good, but they're choosing some of the wrong people.
36:12And some of those people are very bad, and they're setting up chapters and organizations to spread this throughout Europe
36:20and appointing people who were former Nazis to run that.
36:24And then take it a step further.
36:27William Branham's not allowed back in there.
36:29So I can disconnect Branham from this entirely.
36:32At this point, he's not allowed back.
36:34He wants to go back, I think.
36:36He's sending Paul Kane.
36:38So Paul Kane is going to Germany.
36:40He's meeting with these people.
36:42Who are literally building an army for God out of the people who were Nazis.
36:47And all of that comes back into the United States under the auspices of the Joel's Army manifested sons of
36:56God theme.
36:56Well, what kind of army were they building?
36:59And that's really the question.
37:01Because if you think about the timeline, the Joel's Army doctrines were emerging late 1940s.
37:10And after the 1940s, it spreads into the latter rain movement.
37:14Throughout the latter rain movement, manifested sons of God doesn't catch on until much later.
37:20It was kind of a, I don't know, it was almost taboo in the movement.
37:24There were some people that adopted it, some people that didn't.
37:26Paul Kane, William Branham apparently did, and then took it into Germany.
37:32And so what we have here is the spreading of the manifested sons of God agenda into Germany through people
37:39like Paul Kane.
37:40Again, that original meeting was 1955.
37:44So as we're thinking about all of this, all of this is coming together.
37:48Paul Kane's getting involved with Branham.
37:50Jim Jones is getting involved with Branham.
37:52The Baron William T. Frary von Blumberg is getting involved with Branham.
37:57Foursquare Church is heavily advertising William Branham.
38:01They've been involved with Branham somewhat since latter rain began.
38:05So 1954, Madison Square Garden in Phoenix, Arizona.
38:11Paul Kane is advertised in the newspapers by Leroy Kopp of Calvary Temple, who's out of the Foursquare Church.
38:19This is another William Branham.
38:21And in this Madison Square Garden meeting, this is being sponsored by the Foursquare Church,
38:28sponsored specifically by Chuck Smith's Foursquare Church.
38:32And Paul Kane talks about this later on in life.
38:37He says that it was at this meeting where Chuck Smith sponsored him.
38:41And then after that, not during, but after that, he becomes one of his campaign managers.
38:48So piecing the timeline together, 1954, we're building up to all of this event that's about to explode worldwide.
38:55After this, Chuck Smith gets involved with Paul Kane.
38:58So when I look at this timeline, I'm seeing Chuck Smith, I'm seeing the Germans, I'm seeing the Fellowship International.
39:08All of this is exploding worldwide.
39:11And with that explosion is the beginning of what we see that evolves into the New Apostolic Reformation.
39:19If you read down into that advertisement where Paul Kane is being advertised as another Branham, where William Branham says,
39:27Paul Kane, a young man, but a mighty man of God.
39:29Paul Kane is giving his personal testimony.
39:32And he says that there was an angel who came to stand at the bedside of his mother and the
39:39angel told her to be of good cheer because she was going to live and he was going to live.
39:45And, quote, the fruit of her womb would be a male child that she would name Paul, and he would
39:52preach the gospel in the spirit of the Apostle Paul of the Bible.
39:56So it isn't just that we've got a person who's a minister, who's an evangelist, who would later become pseudo
40:04-apostle status.
40:05He was a prophet status in the NAR, but they're kind of equal if you think about how the prophets
40:10work.
40:11More than that, he's the spirit of Paul.
40:14That's what's being advertised here.
40:16So Chuck Smith comes into a meeting and is going to sponsor the meeting for a person who has the
40:23spirit of Paul.
40:24And Chuck Smith is going to join in the campaign team after this to a person who has the spirit
40:30of Paul.
40:32And so we see how all of this can come together to the New Apostolic Reformation.
40:37I have the spirit of such and such from the Bible or so and so from the Bible.
40:41I'm coming in the spirit of Elijah, of David, of Paul, of whoever it is.
40:46That was the mindset of the people at that time, and that was what was being preached to the people
40:52in the crowds.
40:52So the crowds were being conditioned to believe that the person on the platform was not just human, but they
41:00were the spirit of one of the figures from the Bible.
41:04The other thing I want to point out, if you go through some of the other full gospel businessmen's voice
41:09issues and look at what Paul Cain was involved with as it related to FGBMI,
41:15you can see that the prosperity gospel takes shape a lot earlier than many people think.
41:21Most people, when they think of prosperity gospel, they go back to the 70s, 1980s.
41:27That's really whenever it began to explode into a movement that was recognized.
41:33But if you go back in time and you read through some of these magazines, you can see prosperity gospel
41:39is woven all throughout.
41:40In fact, there is this issue in Full Gospel Businessmen's Voice, which is July 1958.
41:48The article is Pierce Brooks is God's new partner now.
41:52And it begins by saying our fellowship had not been in existence very long when evangelist Paul Cain brought to
41:59Los Angeles chapter meeting a Methodist businessman from Dallas, Texas.
42:04And that man was named Dr. Pierce P. Brooks.
42:07If you read the article, it goes on to talk about how Brooks got involved, how his company began to
42:14flourish financially.
42:15And it's giving crazy big numbers whenever you read through this.
42:19If you do the calculation on inflation over the years, we're talking large sums of money.
42:25How once he became involved with this movement, he was seeing capital and surplus of $250,000.
42:33The assets had increased to $3 million.
42:37The stockholders were elated, it says.
42:40And it's talking about because we got involved with this movement, we're starting to see a lot of money flowing
42:46through.
42:47There are numbers up to $10 million described in here because they got involved with this movement.
42:53So the prosperity gospel did exist.
42:55Paul Cain was apparently, I don't know if he was involved in preaching it, but he was connecting people to
43:01full gospel businessmen.
43:03And the whole premise of it was that if you were a businessman, you join in, you're a businessman for
43:09God.
43:09And that started to evolve into, well, if I'm producing fruit, I'm investing, shouldn't I see a return in my
43:16investment?
43:17And that's kind of how this evolved.
43:19They were attracting businessmen by telling them, apparently, that if you get involved with this, like this man in this
43:26article, you're going to see your business flourish because you are giving us your money and you're collaborating to make
43:32this mighty move of God.
43:34So we see the early roots of the prosperity gospel woven throughout all of this.
43:40And Paul Cain, again, is right here in the center of attention.
43:43So to recap, there are so many connections that whenever people tell me, John, that's guilt by association.
43:50You can't just throw out names because they're connected to other names.
43:53Well, if you see how all of those connections work, it becomes more like a gearbox.
43:59You've got one gear that fits in with another gear and they start turning.
44:03Well, then another gear comes and they start turning.
44:05And if you pull any one of those gears out, the whole mechanism doesn't work.
44:10So in the beginning, we talked about Minor Argenbright, who is right here from I literally live like 20, 30
44:18minutes from where he was born.
44:20His family's from this area.
44:22They apparently attended the Branhamite churches.
44:25That puts Branham's influence directly into the full gospel businessmen early from its inception.
44:32And we see that there is some weird connection because it is the full gospel businessmen's founder, Dima Shakarian, and
44:40working with the Kardashian who sponsored Branham in his early ministry.
44:44We've talked about that in the history with Avak Hagopian, where Branham goes out to Palm Springs.
44:49And that's really how all of this thing ignited.
44:52Well, that is through the connection of people who are working together, collaborating.
44:56So you've got those gears in the cog, the Kardashian family, the Shakarian family who are related to the Kardashian
45:02family, the Argenbright family who are right here in the area.
45:06There are other connections, which I didn't unfortunately didn't get time to get into, but this is all happening out
45:13in Los Angeles during the years in which William Branham's mentor, Roy Davis, is going out to Los Angeles to
45:20that area to start involving people in the third wave of the Klan.
45:25So you've got all of these weird connections.
45:28What do you do with this?
45:29For me, I just take the connections and I piece them mentally in my category of some of these connections
45:36are good, some of these are bad, but they have a broad scattering of influence that is swaying a movement
45:44in one direction or another.
45:45For example, Chuck Smith, was he good, was he bad?
45:48I don't know, but I see that this is all coming together at the same time where some very, very
45:54bad people were getting involved in this movement.
45:57As I mentioned, the Colonia Dignidad research, we're talking about what would eventually evolve into what's called Codename Operation Condor
46:07in South America, where you have torture chambers, gas chambers.
46:11You have so many things going on in that compound in Colonia Dignidad.
46:16I can't connect that directly to Paul Cain, but I can say he was at the epicenter with the Germans
46:23that created that element and he was, quote unquote, converting them to Christ.
46:28They were using what he created apparently as a vehicle to start establishing some of this.
46:35So what I'm trying to say is it goes both ways.
46:38In some ways, I can't blame Paul Cain for anything to do with this or William Branham to do with
46:44anything with this, but they established the network and the network is what enabled all of this.
46:50It was the vehicle that created it.
46:53Here's the scary part that I'm driving to.
46:55That type of network, what I'm talking about here with the Germans, that was the same type of network that
47:02was being established in the United States and Canada.
47:05Those networks, they're called apostolic networks.
47:08They're all working in cohesion.
47:11Sometimes, like the businessman I mentioned, it described him as a Methodist.
47:16So this Methodist got involved.
47:17He's not even Pentecostal, but now he's part of the network.
47:20And so that network of all of those apostolic networks, that laid the foundation for what became the New Apostolic
47:28Reformation.
47:29So fast forward into the 1980s.
47:32Now, after all of these networks have been established, you've got the Fellowship Foundation who are spreading and setting up
47:40all of these vast networks worldwide.
47:42You've got the full gospel businessmen who are following on their heels, setting up the same kind of thing in
47:47the same areas, which raises some questions.
47:50But all of this labyrinth of networks have been created.
47:55After that, Paul Kane comes to Kansas City.
47:59He starts working with Mike Bickle, Bob Jones, others to form the Kansas City Fellowship.
48:05And what this is essentially is a group of people who say that they have a direct channel to God.
48:13And if you join into their network, they're a level above the rest.
48:17So out of all of these networks that have been established, their apostolic networks, well, now they have a source
48:24to go to if they want their prophecies and their revelations to flow down through the networks.
48:30That's really what was being established.
48:32In other words, here is now out of the kingdom has been established.
48:37Here is now the castle and in this castle are the figures who are going to be the Kansas City
48:43Fellowship that connects to, as I mentioned, John Wimber, the Vineyard Movement Vineyard, which was already connected to Chuck Smith,
48:51who was already connected back to Paul Kane.
48:55So you can see these cogs of these wheels spinning, these gears turning.
48:59All of this comes together, and this eventually lays the bedrock that would become the new apostolic reformation.
49:06So if you peel all of the layers down and you take it all the way back down to its
49:12root, what do you have?
49:14You have something that was advertised as being spiritual, advertised as being Christian, that's building empires globally that are claiming
49:25conversions, some of which, as you can tell from history, aren't really true conversions.
49:31But there's a lot of money flowing through it.
49:35It's this labyrinth of networks that money is flowing through, and you have to have people who are facilitating and
49:41organizing that flow of money, because that flow of money is what will eventually fund what is the new apostolic
49:48reformation.
49:50So hopefully this has made some sense of all of the different details that I've put out in some of
49:57the podcasts, trying to connect them together.
49:59There are more connections for this, and I'll eventually get into those as well.
50:04But this is just one avenue of connections that flow to the new apostolic reformation from William Branham, and in
50:13this case, it's through Paul Kane.
50:14So if you've enjoyed our show and you want more information, you can check us out on the web.
50:18You can find us at william-branham.org.
50:21For more about the dark side of the new apostolic reformation, you can read Weaponized Religion from Christian Identity to
50:27the NAR, available on Amazon, Kindle, and Audible.
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