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John traces the tangled religious and political environment behind Cindy Jacobs, Generals International, and the New Apostolic Reformation. The discussion examines Baptist, Pentecostal, Latter Rain, Voice of Healing, Christ for the Nations, Roy Davis, William Branham, Gordon Lindsay, William D. Upshaw, and Dallas revival history.
Rather than presenting a simple hierarchy, John shows how revival culture developed through cross-pollination, shared platforms, common political agendas, and overlapping networks. The result is a complicated map of influence connecting postwar healing revivalism, Southern Baptist history, spiritual warfare teaching, dominionist language, and modern prophetic ministry.
00:00 Introduction
01:47 Why Cindy Jacobs’ Lineage Is Hard To Map
06:00 Legal Framing And The “Case”
09:24 Roy Davis, Branham, And The Revival Network
12:28 Searching For Cindy Jacobs’ Family Lineage
20:50 Baptists, Pentecostals, And Dallas-Fort Worth Revival Culture
27:44 The Strange Connection Back To Roy Davis
32:09 Albert Johnson, City Council Activism, And Moral Campaigns
42:00 Southwestern Baptist Seminary, Roy Davis, And William Upshaw
48:00 NAR Parallels, Political Religion, And The Dallas Breeding Ground
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Rather than presenting a simple hierarchy, John shows how revival culture developed through cross-pollination, shared platforms, common political agendas, and overlapping networks. The result is a complicated map of influence connecting postwar healing revivalism, Southern Baptist history, spiritual warfare teaching, dominionist language, and modern prophetic ministry.
00:00 Introduction
01:47 Why Cindy Jacobs’ Lineage Is Hard To Map
06:00 Legal Framing And The “Case”
09:24 Roy Davis, Branham, And The Revival Network
12:28 Searching For Cindy Jacobs’ Family Lineage
20:50 Baptists, Pentecostals, And Dallas-Fort Worth Revival Culture
27:44 The Strange Connection Back To Roy Davis
32:09 Albert Johnson, City Council Activism, And Moral Campaigns
42:00 Southwestern Baptist Seminary, Roy Davis, And William Upshaw
48:00 NAR Parallels, Political Religion, And The Dallas Breeding Ground
______________________
Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962
Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K
______________________
– Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham
– Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ
– Visit the website: https://william-branham.org
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00:31Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.
00:36I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research
00:41at william-branham.org, where history proves that truth, or at least their version of it,
00:47is truly stranger than fiction.
00:49I recently started giving some shorter clips of the longer podcasts that I did with Cindy
00:56Jacobs, about Cindy Jacobs, I should say, where I'm talking through some of her weird numerologies
01:03and how that relates back to the Lateran teachings that I grew up with, and people started asking
01:09a question that I get asked frequently about many of the modern ministries.
01:14What was her theological lineage?
01:16How does she connect back to this weird mess that I'm talking about?
01:20Why am I talking about Cindy Jacobs on the William Branham Historical Research Podcast?
01:25I get asked this question about many different ministries, because when people see the new
01:31ministry that is resurrecting all of the weird old things that I bring up in the Lateran movement
01:38and post-World War II healing revival, they immediately associate them in their minds, and they realize
01:44that there's more to this than meets the eye. Nobody just comes up with this stuff magically, right?
01:51So somebody asked me, what was the theological lineage? Could I create a flowchart or a diagram?
01:57Similar to what we did in the Lateran movement as it related to Branhamism.
02:03But the issue that really comes to play here is the fact that most of what you see is cross
02:10-pollination,
02:11and instead of, you know, people wanting an organized hierarchy with flowchart where you
02:17can see a diagram, this person learned from this person, this other person learned from
02:22that person, so on and so forth, it's more like if you were to take a paintball gun and
02:28shoot it at the wall and splat. There's this big mess of paint everywhere. That's really the
02:34historical lineage that most of these people can follow. It's a cross-pollination of ideas where
02:41one person comes up with some harebrained idea that's not quite biblical but sounds good.
02:47Some other person picks it up and says, well, that sounds really good, and it's extra-biblical.
02:52I wonder if I can come up with some more extra-biblical things to compound to what they said
02:58and sound better than they did. And it turns into this big, I don't know, this spiritual competition,
03:04I guess, and people just go to extremes with it. Some of those extremes, because it's extra-biblical,
03:12they repeat the same patterns, which is odd, and it makes it look like they copied somebody else.
03:19But in fact, what they're doing is they're just taking a pattern that somebody else has tried before,
03:25and when they take that pattern and they repeat it, you're going to end up with similar results.
03:31However, with Cindy Jacobs, there is some weird history that I can't really say it's directly
03:38related to Cindy Jacobs, but I can say that many ministries like Cindy Jacobs and others have come
03:46up in this weird history. As I'm studying it, I don't magically, in my mind, link the two weird
03:55ministries that I'm about to get into. I don't say that they're directly related, but I do see a
04:01pattern of influence, and I wanted to talk through that just a bit because it is really important.
04:07And Cindy Jacobs, her ministries, as it relates to the New Apostolic Reformation, it's incredibly
04:12important. She and her husband founded the Generals of Intercession, I think it's called Generals
04:19International now, which is basically a spiritual warfare prayer institution where they can take
04:27ideas that you might read in a Harry Potter book, put the word Christian on it, and do the same
04:33thing
04:34and say, we are controlling these demons in this corner. So they have a fundamental element of what
04:42is the New Apostolic Reformation. What they have is not original. You can find some of those ideas if
04:48you go back into latter reign. And so because of that, because people are starting to see, well,
04:54wait a minute, they were doing many of the same things with Branham and others. Why are they doing
05:00it again? Are they connected? Who did they learn it from? What is this historical lineage? So you have
05:06people like Dutch Sheets, Chuck Pierce, Mike Bickle, others. They're connected to Cindy Jacobs through
05:13this, what does she call it, the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders or something like this.
05:19I think she was in that group since 1999. It was a group established by C. Peter Wagner. And
05:27beyond that, she has connections, many connections back to Christ for the Nations Institute,
05:32which as we've learned, if you've studied the Revival History series, was founded by Gordon
05:37Lindsay, who was William Branham's original campaign manager. And it developed out of the
05:44Voice of Healing movement, which was created for the Voice of Healing magazine, which started
05:50by advertising Branham. So there's a deep Branham history to all of this. But the history goes a little
05:57bit more insidious and deeper as you look through it. Now, I'm going to be mentioning many names
06:03here. I don't want you to automatically associate some of the worst extreme things that I'm going
06:10to talk about with the people that I'm going to talk about. And I'm going to have to, because
06:16of the subject matter, I will have to change some of the names or otherwise, some of the platforms
06:21just simply won't publish me. I'm going to be talking about the clan. And I purposefully did
06:27not use the other two words in that phrase, that is the clan. But when I talk about it in
06:34this podcast,
06:35I'm just going to say the case. And if you hear me say the case, you know what I'm talking
06:40about.
06:40Because there is a history of the case that links to the history behind the cross pollination that
06:50eventually birthed Cindy Jacobs. It does not mean that she's related in any way, shape or form to it.
06:57But I'll let you as the listener come up with your own conclusions as to how much cross pollination
07:03was involved and how much was agenda that was involved, because there was agenda involved with this.
07:10Interestingly, some of the patterns in the agenda really, really matches what you see today in many
07:17of the New Apostolic Reformation churches. So I'll be talking about the case. I'm also going to be
07:23talking about Southern Baptists. This is a subject that I've not talked about yet.
07:29I have, when we escaped Branhamism, I actually went to a Southern Baptist church for a while.
07:35And it was in that church that I first learned that there was a simple gospel that you can learn
07:42from the Bible. You can read it. I learned some really good things. So I'm not going to be talking
07:47negatively about the Southern Baptist Convention. But in its history, like all of the other histories
07:54that I've examined, you can find some really bad apples. And there's a particular section of history
08:01that is important as it relates to Cindy Jacobs, as it relates to Christ for the Nations, Branhamism,
08:07all of this, that does tie back to the case. I'm going to talk through that a bit. And specifically
08:14in Dallas, where Jacobs and, you know, many of these ministries really emerged from. And there's
08:21a reason for this. I want to talk through that just a bit. So I'm going to be mentioning a
08:25lot of
08:26histories that I have already covered. But this is another episode where I'm taking many of the pieces
08:31of the puzzle that I've already given you. And I'm going to let you connect them as I walk through
08:38some of the, I guess I would call it the coincidences. I'll say it like that. And for some legalese,
08:44I'm not making any claims about Cindy Jacobs or Southern Baptist, their beliefs, their motives,
08:50their moral responsibility. I'm actually just examining the documented regional and institutional
08:56networks around the Texas Baptist, the Pentecostals, the revivalist circles, and some of the history
09:02that people just are not familiar with. But if you see what happened in the forties, fifties, and sixties,
09:08you begin to understand that there were some really bad people doing some really bad things
09:15that very eerily match some of the bad things that you see happening today. And the agenda is much the
09:22same. They just have different names and organizations. So I'm going to talk through that a good bit.
09:27The first person I'm going to talk about is William Branham's mentor, which I've mentioned
09:31frequently in the podcast and various series. His name was Roy E. Davis. And he was one of the original
09:42members of the original case back in 1914, 1915, whenever it began.
09:49He was one of the people who wrote the constitution bylaws and basically created the organization as a
09:57Christian fraternal order. And I'm air quoting Christian because it obviously was a, it was far worse
10:04than a Christian organization. I'll say it like that. So this is a name that I will mention, Roy Davis.
10:10I'm also going to mention Congressman William D. Upshaw, which I've also mentioned a few times in this,
10:17in this podcast, in various series, because he was largely responsible for
10:24lifting William Branham into fame after Branham started to stumble from fame. He was a congressman who
10:33is well known. He was a congressman from the state of Georgia. He was well known for his
10:40being crippled and using crutches to, you know, walk around as he's giving speeches.
10:46When he was a child, he was crippled and he was in a wheelchair for a period of time.
10:51But over time, if you read through the newspapers and you listen to the testimony by other people in
10:57Congress, over time, he really didn't need the wheelchair at all. And he really didn't need the
11:03crutches. There was one congressman who even mentioned, I saw him running through the, through
11:09the aisles in Congress and his, his crutches were just barely even touching the ground. So this guy
11:15didn't even need it. And the congressman or the, uh, representative, which was talking about it said,
11:20you know, in today's world, we have braces and they have these bone braces that you can put inside of
11:26your pants leg. He really doesn't need the crutch at all, but he uses it as a prop basically is
11:32what
11:33he was alleging. If you understand what he's saying. So I'm going to be talking about Congressman Upshaw.
11:38Upshaw was working with Davis. And according to one single newspaper report, Upshaw was also involved
11:46with the original, um, case back in, back in the early, not 1915, I guess it was when they were
11:54rebirth. But he also is the congressman who single handedly kept the case from being abolished in the
12:02twenties, whenever there was a congressional inquiry into the case. So he made a, he made a partnership
12:10with Roy Davis that lasted for decades, which I'll get into that just a bit. But it all
12:16comes back to one single thing that I was investigating that ties all of this together
12:21with Cindy Jacobs. I was looking when somebody asked me her, her, uh, theological lineage.
12:28I was looking through, okay, who is she? Who are her parents? What did they believe? What church should
12:34they go to? And I found something odd. You can search and search and search and you can find her
12:40mother's name, but she never mentioned her father's name. And whenever a minister does this,
12:47all of my red flags go up. If you're not mentioning one parent, there's something there. There's some
12:53reason why you're not. I want to know what it is. And I'm not saying that she has any reason
12:59to cover
12:59anything up, but I'll let you as the listener decide, well, is there more here than meets the eye?
13:05And that's what I'm going to be getting into. So let's start with Roy Davis. If you've listened to my
13:11revival history series or watched the videos on YouTube or practically any of the research that
13:17I have done since 2015, you're probably familiar with Roy Davis. Roy Davis was William Branham's mentor.
13:25As I mentioned, he was the, he was one of the founding members of the original case.
13:30He was actually the second in command to William Joseph Simmons, who founded the case. And he and
13:37Simmons founded other similar organizations, which I won't get into that in this podcast. But if you
13:43want that history, you can go to the website and you can find this information or listen to the revival
13:48history series. But needless to say, he was deeply embedded to this type of organization.
13:55It was a fraternal organization that was intended to be both Christian and patriotic. But as it continued,
14:04it continued to become more, more like a vigilante organization. It wasn't what you would consider
14:10Christian by no means. But the original founders believed that it was, and Davis was one of these
14:16people. However, if you look at Davis's life, you really question whether he was a Christian,
14:23because he had a trail of criminal activity from Texas into Louisiana and Georgia, South Carolina,
14:32Tennessee, Louisville, Kentucky, and finally to Jeffersonville, Indiana, William Branham's hometown,
14:39where he held a revival where likely William Branham first met him. And the police arrested him in the
14:47midst of his revival, carried him to jail because he was taking a young girl across state lines for
14:53reasons I won't mention on this podcast. That young girl later became his wife in the 1940s. And that
15:02history does come into play. So I wanted to drop that hint. But needless to say, the character of this
15:08person was not a good character. He was not an honest person. He claimed to have been a converted
15:14spiritualist. And we have evidence that suggests he and Branham went to a spiritualist camp in Indiana
15:21called Camp Chesterfield. And part of his revival trick was that he was supposedly outing the
15:28spiritualists for their tactics and saying, we have a true better way, and was essentially teaching
15:33spiritualism in the form of Christianity, if you read through some of the comments in the newspaper.
15:39So this is where William Branham would have first came in contact with some of his weird,
15:44harebrained ideas. But Roy Davis was his mentor. Roy Davis is the one who baptized him into the
15:51Pentecostal faith, who ordained William Branham as a minister. And through Davis, William Branham became
15:58connected to some very important people. Some of them were with the Ks. Some of them were embedded
16:04into Pentecostalism, UPC people, etc. So Davis was really, really important to the latter reign,
16:14voice of healing revival that would come, simply by connecting Branham to those people.
16:19And ordaining Branham, teaching him the Pentecostal faith, etc. Here's the catch,
16:26Davis was not a Pentecostal. And in fact, Branham, whenever he mentions Davis, he seems to know
16:33this because he's always dishonest about what Davis had as a church. Davis's church was called the
16:40First Pentecostal Baptist Church of God. And it was advertised in all of the newspapers as a
16:46Pentecostal organization. It entertained Pentecostal ministers from Cincinnati to Chicago, Illinois.
16:54All of these Pentecostal ministers came to his church, and it was well connected through the music,
17:00and the singing, and the choirs, and many of the entertainment aspects of his church,
17:06was appealing, apparently, to the Pentecostals. Definitely a Pentecostal church, and Davis admits
17:12this later in 1950, which I'll get into that as well. But he was a Baptist minister. He was ordained
17:19Baptist in Texas. He was apparently kicked out of the Baptist church in Georgia when it was found out
17:27that he had multiple wives in multiple states who didn't know each other. There's a weird history
17:34there that we did talk about in the Revival History series, if you want to hear it. But
17:41he was not a good man. I'll just say it like that. But he was not a good man who
17:46was kicked out of the
17:46Baptist church, became Pentecostal for a while. I think he later converted back to a different flavor
17:54of Baptist in Texas because of his notoriety in the Kays. Part of the story that we're going to be
18:02getting into is that, especially in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, the Kays dominated, and there were
18:11reasons why he was accepted among the evangelicals. I'll just say it like that. We'll get into that
18:18history in a bit. But needless to say, once he ordained Branham, once Branham started preaching,
18:25once Branham gets connected to all of these people, he starts touring on revivals with Roy Davis.
18:31And Roy Davis is taking Branham into places where they're pretending to drink strychnine or some other
18:39poison to the poison-drinking snake-handling sect of Pentecostalism. Branham mentions this in one
18:45recording, and he talks about some very strange revivals that he held with Davis. But Davis is
18:52there in the background. At the same time, you have Congressman William D. Upshaw, which I've
18:58mentioned a few times. Upshaw is part of the reason why you can't buy beer on Sunday. He is one
19:05of the
19:05people who was very strongly advocating for eliminating all liquor and alcohol in the United States. He became
19:14known as the driest of the dries. He and others were converting many states to that same ideology.
19:24And in fact, for a period of time, it became so popular that he was running for president under a
19:29platform called the Prohibition Party. Either president or vice president, you have to look this
19:34up. But Upshaw is important in two ways. Number one, he's connected to Davis throughout his history.
19:41He and Davis are working together. Number two, he's connected to Branham, and Branham pretends not to
19:48know him, which is kind of funny. He poses as a wheelchair invalid in one of Branham's meetings after
19:55having been, as I said, walking, running through the aisles in Congress. He sits in a wheelchair and Branham
20:02says, oh look, there's this congressman who's sitting there. He's been crippled for 66 years,
20:08confined to beds and wheelchairs. Rise up and stand and be healed. So the congressman rises up and
20:15stands to be healed, and he was lifting Branham into fame. I mean, that's really the only way that
20:21you can look at this. But he was also the vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention.
20:27I came across that years ago, and I really didn't know what to do with it, because
20:33in my head, I had separated the revivals from the Baptists, from the Methodists, from all these other
20:40organizations, even though I myself knew that many of those organizations did join into the revival.
20:48And I think to many historians who have looked at this, like the people asking about Cindy Jacobs,
20:53you look at her background, you see a Baptist background, and you think,
20:57well, that's not compatible. How could a Baptist turn out to be like this? She totally left her
21:03Baptist roots. I'm going to argue in this podcast, no. That's not what happened here. Maybe there were
21:10certain flavors of Baptists, and maybe different regions and districts of Baptists, but especially
21:16in the regions that Cindy Jacobs was in, this was compatible. And in fact, there were Baptists who
21:23joined into the revivals. Not all. Obviously, Baptists also condemned it. I should be clear to mention
21:29that. William Branham's famous halo photograph that's taken of the lighting in the Sam Houston
21:37Coliseum was taken during a debate between a Baptist minister who's arguing, I believe in divine
21:44healing, but I don't believe in divine healers. And he was arguing against William Branham and others
21:49who were in the divine healers camp. So you had Baptist ministers who came against the revivals,
21:55but you also had Baptist ministers who were compatible. And usually, especially in the case
22:02of Davis, I would say the compatibility wasn't so much about the religion as it was the agenda.
22:08And that's the point that I really, really want to stress. I want to go deep with that because I
22:14want
22:14people to understand what I'm talking about. It isn't that I'm saying white supremacy is connected
22:20to Cindy Jacobs or that the Baptists are deep into white supremacy, anything like this. But there were
22:28political ideologies that were connecting groups of people together. And unfortunately, in the 40s,
22:3550s, and 60s, it was through some very, very awful things, especially in Dallas. There were several
22:43ministers who were rising up in all kinds of camps from Baptist to Pentecostals saying that
22:48we cannot let black people in the schools with children with our white children. That really was
22:56the issue. That was the big Dallas issue. Whenever Roy Davis, William Branham's mentor, finally migrates to
23:04Dallas, he is there as the leader, the wizard of the case, I'll say it like that. And he was
23:13embedded into several different Oak Cliff white citizens councils, different councils to try to
23:22eradicate this. And he was one of the most outspoken people against it. There were other people who were
23:27in his vicinity. He's in a neighborhood that apparently was breeding some people of similar
23:34agenda, which I won't talk about that, but you can go look at some of the people that were
23:39there close to where Davis was. He's in a place where the evangelicals are rising up, banding
23:46together, trying to fight the United States government, because the government is trying
23:51to impose to the states, you must integrate your schools. And this turned into all out war. In fact,
23:58there were military vehicles that were present in some of these places. So I'm going to get into that
24:04history a bit. But now let's go back and talk about Cindy Jacobs and the parent that goes unnamed.
24:13When I began trying to trace the parents of Cindy Jacobs so that I could learn the family
24:18religious history, there's not much you can find. There is a single obituary that I was able to find,
24:26the obituary of Eleanor Johnson Lindsay. And yes, that name threw me for a bit because William Branham's
24:33campaign manager was also Lindsay, but the spelling is different. One ends in E-Y, one ends in A-Y.
24:42Eleanor Johnson Lindsay was born in Fulton, Missouri, March 27th, 1926, to George and Lucille McJilton,
24:50passed away in 2016. And you can read through a wide history of her time in Texas until she died,
24:58apparently. One of the things that it mentions in here is that she had a husband who is named Albert,
25:05who passed away at the age of 49. After that, she married Thomas Lindsay, and they were married for
25:1135 years. It says Eleanor was survived by her son, Richard Johnson, who is a missionary to China,
25:17her daughter, Cindy Jacobs, who is also a minister, and three grandchildren and six great-grandchildren.
25:24So it mentions the daughter, Cindy Jacobs. It does not really talk about her husband, Albert, very much.
25:31So you have to kind of dig into this. And how do you do this? I started looking through some
25:37of the
25:37things that Cindy Jacobs and others have said about her parents. And I learned that Albert was a Baptist
25:44minister in Texas. He was also a church planner in Texas, which gave me just a little bit to work
25:51with.
25:51The only real problem is Albert Johnson, which was his name, is a very extremely common name.
26:00And there's nothing that tells me which Albert Johnson. What was the middle name? What part of
26:06Texas? Where did he plant his churches? What were the church's names? So hours upon hours upon hours of
26:14time was spent in the newspapers trying to figure all of this out. And it is very difficult to figure
26:20out.
26:21But before I get into that history, I'm going to qualify it because, as any historian would,
26:28there is a level of accuracy that you cannot get to unless you can actually talk to the people and
26:36get
26:36who all of their connections or their family history, all of the names of them, the places, etc.
26:44But I was able to piece together fairly accurately, at least from the information that I have, some of
26:51the information, some of the cities and some of the locations. And then there's also a level of
26:57plausible accuracy. So as I get into some of this, I'll tell you, yes, this is probably her father.
27:04This may be her father. It really looks like her father. And then there's a few that I excluded that
27:10I
27:10won't even put on the podcast because they, even though it was the same name minister, same
27:16planting Baptist churches, he was definitely not her father. I can say that with certainty.
27:22So I did go through this history. I did get some information. And interestingly, there is a strange
27:28connection to Roy Davis. Have you ever wondered how the Pentecostal movement started or how the
27:34progression of modern Pentecostalism transitioned through the latter reign, charismatic and other
27:40fringe movements into the new apostolic reformation? You can learn this and more on William Branham
27:46Historical Research's website, william-branham.org. On the books page of the website, you can find the
27:54compiled research of John Collins, Charles Paisley, Stephen Montgomery, John McKinnon and others with
28:01links to the paper, audio and digital versions of each book. You can also find resources and
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28:30Before I get into talking about Albert Johnson, who is Cindy Jacobs' father, Roy Davis and the Kays,
28:37and all of the information in between, I want to assure the people that I'm not saying that Albert was
28:43in
28:44the Kays. But what I am saying, and this is pretty evident from not just the research that I've done
28:49here, but many other researchers have came to the same conclusion, there was a wide swath of the
28:58evangelical, Pentecostal, Baptist, different groups of people in the South who were aligned on the same
29:05political agenda. And because of that alignment, you had many different things that could cause
29:12cross-pollination of ideas. Some of it was the Kays. You might attend a Kays rally and you might pick
29:19up information. Or you might be a member of one of the councils and you might pick up information.
29:24You might simply go to a revival meeting where you had people like William Branham and the Full
29:32Gospel Businessmen bringing all of these different groups of people together. Well, if you bring them
29:37together in the South, the most hot topic in the South obviously is this agenda that I'm going to
29:43be getting into. So people are aware that this exists. It doesn't necessarily mean that I'm saying
29:50that Albert Johnson and the Kays are connected in any way, but I'll let you as the listener determine
29:57whether you think they were or not. But what I want to first say is that whenever Albert and Eleanor
30:04first got married, they went to Dallas immediately after their marriage. That is significant because
30:11it puts them in the proximity of the heart of all of my research. I mean, think Christ for the
30:17Nations,
30:17which was in Dallas. Before it was Christ for the Nations, it was the Voice of Healing,
30:22which was in Dallas. Before that, Voice of Healing, the headquarters was in Shreveport, Louisiana,
30:29and apparently Albert and Eleanor also spent time in Louisiana. So they may have had some connections
30:36there, but Dallas is where I'm going to focus on first because after they got married, the marriage
30:43itself was in Oak Cliff Presbyterian Church. So it's in the Oak Cliff subdivision. Already we see
30:49a proximity. It doesn't mean that they're connected in any way, shape, or form,
30:54but it does mention that Albert planned to enter into school of theology. And being there in Oak Cliff,
31:04as a theologian, he would be connected to other theologians. In that time, in that space, in that
31:10era, you're going to find theologians who were banding together to fight against the different
31:16evils, which is a funny side story I'll show here in just a minute with a plausible father figure.
31:23But we have reference points for this. You can look at the San Antonio Express News in 1946. It talks
31:30about they're going to be residing in Dallas. You can look at the San Antonio Light, which mentions
31:36the Oak Cliff Presbyterian Church. These aren't things that I'm inventing or trying to piece together.
31:42These are declared in the newspapers. So Dallas becomes the first confirmed city that I can find
31:49Albert Sheldon Johnson. And I'm able to get his middle name Sheldon from that newspaper.
31:56So before he became Baptist, before he entered into Southwestern Seminary, which we'll get into,
32:02he's in the heart of Dallas. While he's in the Dallas area, there is a weird thing that happens
32:10that is the side story. He comes out strongly against comics. Yes, comics. There is a newspaper
32:20article. I'll pull it up. If you're watching the video version of this podcast, the article is
32:26entitled Battle on Horror Comics here and across the nation. And this is one that I mentioned. I have
32:33some articles that I don't know if it's the father or not, but it's very plausible. This one is very
32:40plausible for multiple reasons. I won't get into those reasons here. I will eventually publish all
32:45of these newspaper articles to the website and you can see them on the Cindy Jacobs page. It isn't really
32:52that important other than the fact that this is a person who is outspoken against things like comics.
32:58So you can see him joining into a battle, which would have an agenda, which would connect him to
33:03multiple people. And in this case, it actually connected him to the city councils. That becomes
33:10important later, which I'll get into. But in the newspaper article, it mentions his name. It says,
33:17in Fort Worth, Texas, the city council passed an ordinance this summer banning lewd comic books
33:23and those which tend to incite minors to disregard the law. Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Oklahoma City,
33:29Stockton, California, Grand Rapids, Michigan, and other cities have written for information on the
33:34ordinance. Baton Rouge is another interesting point because I believe that's where the family was at
33:41one point in time, according to the newspapers. But it says the council took action after a young
33:46Baptist ministerial student, Reverend Albert S. Johnson, father of two children, appeared before a
33:53council meeting with a stack of cheap, trashy comic books he had purchased at a newsstand near City
33:58Hall. The reason why I wanted to bring this particular article up isn't so much about the
34:04comic books, but it is about Fort Worth City Hall. So I can place the family in Fort Worth in
34:11the City
34:12Hall. They're speaking to the councils. Well, you can also go back to The Voice of Healing when Roy
34:18Davis was published in The Voice of Healing. And think about that just a second. The leader of the
34:24case, or the future leader of the case, the one who's rising up to become leader of the case, is
34:30featured on one of the articles in The Voice of Healing published by Gordon Lindsay, who's later in
34:36Dallas. Not long after this, he's in Dallas. In The Voice of Healing issue, William Branham's first pastor,
34:42Roy Davis says this. I'm a member of the Fort Worth, Texas Chamber of Commerce, and on the executive
34:49committee of the same, I was born and reared near this Texas city, converted there, and ordained to
34:55preach the gospel in a well-known Baptist church of Texas. Until recently, I was working with the
35:01Assembly of God, though not a member with them. I've had some truly great campaigns with them, and my
35:08present business manager, Rev. J. F. Owens, is now and has been a pastor for some six years of the
35:14Granbury, Texas Assembly of God. And he goes on to talk about the Assemblies of God churches, the
35:20Pentecostal churches, the four-square ministers. He is connecting all of the dots for you in this
35:26one letter that is published by Gordon Lindsay. Again, Gordon Lindsay publishing the former second in
35:34command of the case, the future leader of the case. It's really odd that Gordon Lindsay does this.
35:40This is a person who is well-known as a leader of the case and other similar organizations.
35:47Lindsay publishes him, and he connects the dots for you. I don't even have to connect the dots. I just
35:52have to read the letter. And you can see the Baptists are working with the Assemblies. They're
35:57working with the Pentecostal organizations. He mentions him here. And he's going on to talk about
36:04how the revival is coming into Texas. So he is laying the groundwork that I didn't even have to
36:12dig into. I just read through his article. But it's the groundwork for me to understand how a
36:17cross-pollination of ideas can come to be. And keep in mind, this is where Cindy Jacobs is being raised.
36:24So she's being raised in that type of environment. When you go attend a Baptist church today,
36:31a Southern Baptist church, etc., you hear a much different version of the ministry than you did
36:37back in the 50s and 60s in the same type of convention, especially in the South, because
36:45they were more receptive to this type of idea. Yes, there were ministers probably in the North who
36:51had doctrines against this type of thing. And yes, in Houston, Texas, there's the famous battle between,
36:56I think his name is Reverend Best and William Branham, where the Baptists are fighting this
37:01kind of thing. But you do have cross-pollination and you have compatibility. That compatibility comes
37:09through people like Davis who are organizing people against a common enemy, which they,
37:15in that era, believed to be the government of the United States. Roy Davis is uniting people. He will
37:23eventually bring it to a head when he starts doing things like cross ceremonies. I'm going to say
37:30ceremonies, but you know what I'm talking about with the case. In the lawns of certain senators or
37:36congressmen, this is a person who is very, he's inciting violence. That's the kind of person he is.
37:43And Roy Davis is bringing together many different people to fight the common enemy. They did not like
37:50the fact that the federal government was pushing federal mandates to the state government and to
37:57the local government. They saw this as an abuse of power, especially in Dallas. So Davis is organizing this.
38:04Davis is on the Chamber of Commerce in Fort Worth. And this is the very place where the comic ideas
38:10gets pushed by what appears to be. And we only have the middle initial here, but what are the odds?
38:18Now, there are some other newspaper articles that will connect this and make this more apparent,
38:22but still it's a plausible history. It's not what I would say fully vetted because there is no way I
38:29can
38:29I can go back and fully vet this. But there's a reason why his name is not mentioned. I don't
38:36know
38:36what that reason is. It's just really odd to me. Some articles that I did use as reference points to
38:41try to make this more plausible. The Waco News Tribune, 1950, August 17th. It mentions that Albert
38:50Sheldon Johnson, which is our Albert Sheldon, was a Baylor graduate. And it lists his name among the,
38:58those who were getting a Bachelor of Arts and their candidates. You can go down the line of
39:03newspaper articles. If you get newspaper.com subscription, you can go through and you can
39:08kind of connect all of these dots. It looks very, very plausible. I'll just say it like that.
39:13But the Baylor record turns Albert Sheldon Johnson from a Dallas theological student into a documented
39:21Baptist university student. So that 1952 San Antonio
39:25Antonio notice then puts Reverend Albert Johnson of Baylor University into the Baptist pulpit. And from
39:33there, now you can connect further dots. So it brings the, it opens the door for further research,
39:39which is what it did for me. The other clues, if you read through the article, and there are other,
39:44there are several different comic book articles, but it talks about Johnson. It gives his middle
39:50initial, his age, his family status, says he's a 30 year old father of two children and a student at
39:58Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. So all of that matches our Robert Sheldon Johnson.
40:05But because we don't have Sheldon, we have Robert S. Johnson. Still, it's plausible, but there's no way
40:12to really fully confirm that. Some, some other articles that I did bring up whenever I was looking
40:19into just simply the family mention in the comic articles, Lubbock Evening Journal 1954, July 8th.
40:28It's called a student shows 10 cent crime lessons in Fort Worth. You can read through that. There's also
40:34a Fort Worth telegram, 1954, July 11th. It talks about the youth court and identifies
40:42Albert S. Johnson as the man who brought the crime horror comic, but it places him in Fort Worth. It
40:49identifies Professor James Daniel of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. So we know this was a
40:57Baptist minister. Again, there are several others that you can go through. Newspapers.com is where I
41:02went. But by 1954, Albert Johnson was not simply training for ministry. He was becoming very active
41:11in the public, in the moral politics of the era. So he was getting, he was developing his political
41:18agenda. And for him, it was comic books, which sounds odd in today's world, especially if you go to the
41:25grocery store and you see comic books everywhere. And for me, it, it, it really hurts a little bit
41:32because we weren't allowed to have comics in the Branham cult. That was one of the rules that we were
41:38not allowed to have. And I'm reading this and I'm starting to understand, well, wait a minute,
41:42that's tied to Albert Johnson. Can I really blame Cindy Jacob's father for this? That actually went
41:49through my head, but it's the way that I was raised. My children, they can read comics. We have all
41:55kinds
41:56of fun. Sadly, they don't want to read them. But anyway, that's a weird history, but it did connect
42:03some dots. What that gave me was Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. So let's talk a little
42:11bit about why that matters because that opened the door to connecting it all the way around trip
42:17further to Davis more solidly than I thought it would. I've talked about this in various different
42:24places because this is truly one of the most interesting parts of history that you just can't
42:29make this stuff up. But Davis is in Jeffersonville, Indiana, planting what would eventually become my
42:36grandfather's church here in Jeffersonville. It became William Branham's church and later my
42:41grandfather's church, Davis gets arrested and taken all the way to Arkansas and finally served some
42:48prison time. So while he's in Arkansas serving prison time, Branham becomes partially the big name
42:56that he was, not quite to the level that he was by the latter rain, but his name was getting
43:01around
43:01and there are some pamphlets where you can hear about it. He's beginning his early ministry,
43:05his healing ministry. He's apparently still connected to Davis, which he mentions later.
43:11But Davis gets out of prison and Davis goes to San Bernardino, California. And he claims to have had
43:18a vision of a peach while he was a Baptist minister at a Baptist church in San Bernardino, California.
43:25And this convinced several of the local rich folks to start investing in creating what would be called
43:33the Usher Davis Children's Orphanage. And this is where the history for me and the Branham history
43:40just really exploded because the newspaper articles for the trial that ensued connected
43:45all of the dots. Now I know that this is the same Davis that Branham was connected to.
43:51Now I know that this is the same Davis who is the heads of the K's.
43:55Now I know that he's still working with Congressman Upshaw before Branham's alleged healing of Upshaw.
44:02And there's one article that really spells it out clearly. And it mentions the ties back to
44:08Cindy Jacobs' potential father figure. I'm using the word potential. It looks like it to me,
44:15but I'm using the word potential. There's an article in San Bernardino County Sun, August 8, 1943,
44:23entitled, Orphanage School at Upland, Slated to Open September 15. In this it talks about Roy Davis,
44:32the pastor of the Upland Baptist Church and the president of the association, the Children's
44:38Association. It mentions Dr. John Williams of San Diego as the superintendent, which is kind of
44:47important but not to this research. It talks about arrangements being made to
44:53secure the majority of faculty members. Let me read that again. The majority of faculty members
45:00from the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary at Fort Worth, Texas. It goes on to say,
45:06former representative William D. Upshaw is taking an active part in the organization of the institution
45:12and is to be in charge of the Department of Americanism. And for any of you who are unfamiliar with
45:19this term, the Department of Americanism, that is how the Kays used coded language to talk about their
45:28political agenda to reclaim control of the United States government. They would say,
45:34these people aren't true Americans. We need to teach them true Americanism. So long story short,
45:41and you can read through this history. I've got it published on the website and we've talked about
45:45it several times. This was a precursor to the rebirth of the Kays in California. Right after this happens,
45:54the Kays get connected. Foursquare Church, which is one of the churches that Roy Davis mentioned in his
46:01letter, Foursquare Church graduates of the Life Bible College, such as Wesley Swift, joined forces in
46:10this. They become heads of the Kays. Swift is later working with Davis in Little Rock, Arkansas. All of
46:16this is coming to a head that would eventually become the third wave of the Kays. So this is a
46:23big,
46:24big deal. The orphanage appeared to be a funding scandal. There were two, according to the court records
46:31that you can read in the newspapers, there were two sets of books. And apparently Upshaw was in charge of
46:37the books, if I understood it correctly. But there were two sets of books. One of them were what the
46:43donors saw. One of them was where the money was actually going. And Davis somehow wiggles out of
46:49all of this. It's really weird because even whenever they were starting your work in orphanage, you can
46:54read through the trial. He's posing as a government agent. And William Upshaw is the one who's connecting
47:00him as a government agent to like the famous or the very wealthy Elizabeth Usher, whose name is on
47:08the organization. So all of this is just, none of it makes really sense. However, it does make a
47:15connection back to Cindy Jacobs' father because it says specifically, we're making arrangements to
47:21secure a majority of the faculty members from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Now,
47:27does that mean that her father came to this orphanage? No. This happened right before he
47:33became a student in Southwestern. What I'm referring to specifically is the cross-pollination of ideas,
47:41because you have Davis and you have Upshaw with this political agenda. You have Southwestern who's going,
47:48we're going to give all of our students, a majority of our faculty, to help start this organization.
47:55that's how weird this gets. You have Upshaw, who was the vice president of the Southern Baptist
48:00Convention, and this is a Southern Baptist school. So he's using his ties. This is the same school,
48:07the Southwestern Baptist Seminary, same exact school that Cindy Jacobs' father went to. Now,
48:14it was later. It wasn't that he was part of any of this that I'm talking about. But the seeds
48:19had been
48:20planted, they were growing, they were cross-pollinating, and it's at a time when Davis himself mentions,
48:26we have Baptists, we have Pentecostals, we have Assemblies of God, UPC, all of these different
48:31groups. They're coming together as part of our agenda, part of our fight. Part of that fight,
48:38as I said, was Americanism. And look at some of the modern themes that you find in the New Apostolic
48:45Reformation in organizations like Cindy Jacobs. We need to fight to take America back. We need
48:51Dominionism. We need all of these different things that are saying that we, as a church,
48:56are going to take back what we apparently allegedly lost. That's the same themes that I'm finding back
49:04in the 40s and 50s. It's exactly what they were doing. So let's fast forward from the San Bernardino
49:10event to 1951. That is the year that Cindy Jacobs is born in San Antonio, Texas. That is also the
49:18year
49:19that William Upshaw, whenever William Branham's ministry was declining, because he was being
49:26rejected for bad theology. William Upshaw decided that he was going to no longer use crutches
49:33after attending a Branham event. And I'm using that word purposefully. He decided this,
49:40because the way it plays out, if you listen to what William Branham says about it,
49:44this man, Upshaw, who has not been in a wheelchair since he was a young boy, who did use crutches,
49:52and you
49:52can find photographs of him everywhere with crutches. But according to other congressmen, he was
49:58running down the aisles. His crutches barely even touched the ground. He really didn't need them. He
50:04could be using a brace if he wanted to. Suddenly, he shows up in one of William Branham's meetings in
50:10a
50:10wheelchair. And William Branham says, rise up and be healed. And in 1951, he goes on tour praising Branham.
50:18And here's an article I'll pull up from the Courier Journal, which is in Louisville, Kentucky, right across
50:24the river from Jeffersonville. He plans to talk in Jeffersonville, it says. It says, free of the crutches
50:30he used for 42 years, the Reverend William D. Upshaw, wheel horse of the Prohibition Forces, yesterday
50:37pointed to the Women's Christian Temperance Union symbol on his coat lapel and remarked, I want to show these
50:45wet rascals up here that I haven't lowered my flag one bit. So he's still promoting the dry agenda.
50:53But he talks about William Branham healing and he says his heart leaped and he got up and he
50:58walked for the first time. So he says. Now, maybe he believes it. I don't know. But if you listen
51:06to
51:06the testimony of other congressmen, certainly that was not the case. And certainly, he did not need to be
51:13in a wheelchair. In fact, I don't even think the wheelchair is mentioned in this article,
51:17but it does mention that he was in Louisville in 1927, elected a Southern Baptist Convention
51:26vice president. So from 1927, all the way up to, it was mentioned again in the newspapers in San
51:37Bernardino in the mid 40s. He has been a vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention
51:42for that long. It tells me that there was a pretty deep connection. There had to have been. So this
51:49is
51:491950. He's talking about the Southern Baptists. And he's talking about the Prohibition Party,
51:55all of the different things that he has done. He is on tour with many of the healing evangelists
52:02and revivalists trying to help spread the divine healing, World War II healing revivalists.
52:08Why is he doing this? I don't know. Why would he, why would a person who's helping to rebuild the
52:14K's out in California decide he wants to embed himself directly with William Branham and the
52:21healing revivalists? And not just Branham. He's working with others as well. Branham mentions that
52:28it was Roy Davis, his mentor, his trainer, the person who ordained him into the Pentecostal faith.
52:34He said it was Roy Davis who convinced him to go to Branham. So if you put all of these
52:41pieces
52:41together, you see a puzzle that it doesn't look good. I'm just going to say it like that. It does
52:47not
52:48look good. But all of this is happening before and leading up to the point at which Cindy Jacobs is
52:57born.
52:58So you can't say Cindy Jacobs is in any way, shape or form connected to any of this.
53:03But this is the type of environment that she grew up in. So when people ask me,
53:08what was her theological lineage? Well, how do you define that? If you say Southern Baptist,
53:16they're going to immediately think about what Southern Baptists are today. And they're going
53:21to think about Southern Baptists, not in the state of Texas, that were quite different in the state
53:26of Texas back then. How do you define it? I can't really define it. What I can say is that
53:33Davis,
53:33who's working with the vice president of the Southern Baptist Convention, is touring through
53:39Assemblies of God churches throughout Texas. Davis is joining into the healing revivals. Davis is being
53:45published by Gordon Lindsay and the Voice of Healing. This is a man who is connecting many people
53:51together. And his purpose is not religion, whether he says it or not. It's more about the agenda that
53:58he's pushing as the head of the case. And later on, which I won't get into that in this podcast,
54:05but later on in the newspapers, you find out what that agenda was. He is one of the most outspoken
54:11against the integration of black people and white people in the school systems in Dallas and Fort
54:17Worth. So he's fighting it. He's building an army to fight it. If you think Joel's army, this is the
54:23kind
54:23of army that's underneath the hood of Joel's army. This is what was being built. And that is the
54:30breeding ground that bred many people, not just Jacob's. And yet at the same time, many of the
54:37people that bred, I can't say have any connections to white supremacy at all, but they do have a very
54:44political version of their religion. And if there's one point that I could stress in this entire podcast,
54:51it's that this was a breeding ground for the merging of really anti-government politics
54:58and religion. That is what was happening. And it was happening because of people like Roy Davis,
55:04people like William Upshaw. So if you follow this trail of history and you connect all of these dots,
55:10I don't know if it helps you. I don't know if it gives you the flow chart you're wanting,
55:14but it gives me the flow chart of a mess. I look at it more like somebody, somebody asked me,
55:20can you make a flow chart with all the charts and diagrams like he did for latter rain with
55:24people like Cindy Jacobs? And I thought more like, I don't know if you've seen the family
55:28circus where Billy's going around and it shows the dots and trails of every place that Billy went.
55:34It's more confusing like that, I think, than it is a flow chart that's a structured design.
55:40So if you've enjoyed our show and you want more information, you can check us out on the web.
55:44You can find us at william-branham.org. For more about the dark side of the New Apostolic
55:49Reformation, you can read Weaponized Religion from Christian Identity to the NAR. Available on Amazon,
55:55Kindle, and Audible.
56:00Our show off with it will be better than we know.
56:10Our children will be better, than we know the story about them.
56:16We have to figure out what we need in order for the future of three things.
56:17we do the work, we do the work of them to figure out how to figure out how to figure
56:17out what we do to find out.
56:18And you know, you know, and we do the work from others.
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