00:00We see him all the time, John Boy Media, Rose Rotation, American Gladiators, NFL Network.
00:05He is a man among men, and of course you see him on television during the Browns preseason
00:10on the Browns preseason television network.
00:12Right now he's on the Wise Heart Right, we make it right, call Kyle Right.
00:15Hotline, hi Chris, how are you?
00:17Doing fine, guys, how are you?
00:19We are good.
00:21My first question isn't so much about the X's and O's of it.
00:25How big of a deal is it in L.A. that Miles Garrett is coming there?
00:30I mean, I think it's a big deal, and it will be a big deal once the football season starts.
00:39This is an interesting town as far as the NFL goes.
00:44They do like the Rams an awful lot.
00:46The Chargers don't have a huge fan base in the city of Los Angeles.
00:55But it's, I mean, look, they're big Dodger fans out here, and they're huge Laker fans,
01:00and they like the Rams.
01:02But I think they all understand the importance of the move.
01:07So I think once the season starts, it's not the city of Cleveland, folks.
01:12It's just not when it comes to the NFL.
01:14And that's the truth.
01:19How good is Jared Verse?
01:22I mean, he's very good.
01:24He's a very, very good player.
01:26The people I talk to at the Rams say, like, Alpha, you know, really great leader, which is good.
01:36Really good against the run.
01:37And, you know, his stack numbers are not good.
01:41And, you know, you can read it any way you want.
01:45I hate pressure stats.
01:48I just don't like them because every company's got a different definition of what they see as a pressure.
01:54I know what a stack is.
01:55I know what a quarterback hit is.
01:57And he's very good in the quarterback hit area.
02:00So I tend to lean that direction.
02:03The pressure stuff drives me nuts.
02:05Because there's some companies that look at the game film, and that's how they determine it.
02:11There are others that use technology to determine it.
02:14So there's no one clear way what it is.
02:20I heard that the Rams coaches had to get on him a little bit at the end of last year
02:26just because he was kind of freelancing a little too much and doing his own thing, which isn't – I
02:30mean, some great players do that, right?
02:32And the late junior say-out, late great junior say-out, he was famous for that and still was an
02:38incredible player.
02:40But I think that he's a really, really good football player.
02:44He's nowhere close to Miles Garrett, but nobody is.
02:48What did – and I kind of don't want to talk to Chris Rose, the play-by-play guy here.
02:53I want to talk to Chris Rose, the guy from Cleveland.
02:56What did you think when the trade went down?
02:58I mean, I was sad.
03:01You know, I've been around a long time, and very rarely have I had a chance to root for the
03:08best player in a sport, right?
03:11We had it with LeBron.
03:13I don't think we've ever had it in baseball.
03:16You could probably make an argument.
03:18But I don't feel like we've ever – we never had Shohei Otani.
03:24We never had Aaron Judge.
03:25We never had Mike Trout, those type of guys.
03:27We've had some really good baseball players, but never in my lifetime have we had it.
03:32We certainly haven't had it at the quarterback position.
03:38You know, we've had the best running back in the league at times, right?
03:43Nick Chubb was the best, I felt like, but he wasn't the best football player, period.
03:48You could make an argument that Miles Garrett was the best football player the last couple of years in the
03:54NFL.
03:54Not the most important.
03:56We know that that resides at a different position, but the best.
04:00And so when you don't have a chance to root for him anymore, you're going to be sad.
04:04I'm not saying I don't understand the move.
04:06I'm not sitting here kicking and screaming and saying, well, I get it.
04:11It just makes you sad because it is fun rooting for the best player.
04:15And when you have arguments with your buddies and you're like, yeah, he's freaking awesome, dude.
04:20And he's just incredible.
04:22And now the whole world, I think, is going to see it because we saw it mostly at 1 o
04:27'clock on Sundays.
04:29They're going to have a chance to see it seven times under the lights when it's the only game in
04:33town.
04:33And they're going to make a big deal about it on the broadcast, which they should.
04:37And I expect him to continue his dominance for another few years.
04:41Chris, should we be more open-minded about the draft picks other than draft capital to move up in 2027
04:48to take a quarterback?
04:50Well, I mean, look, at this point, these are nameless, faceless people, right?
04:55We don't know they're going to eventually have names attached to them.
05:00And they could turn into really, really good football players.
05:03There are a bunch of excellent football players that help teams win that get drafted at the end of the
05:11first and second and third rounds.
05:14They just are, you know?
05:16I mean, you can go look at the Seahawks roster.
05:20They're littered with them.
05:22And that's the goal.
05:24And, yes, look, for people that say, well, those picks can't help us get the quarterback.
05:29Folks, yes, it can.
05:31Yes, it can.
05:32All you have to do is go look at, like, the Niners, okay?
05:37It didn't end up working out for them.
05:39They're trade up to go get Freeland.
05:42That's who they wanted.
05:43They moved up from 12 to 3, which is a pretty significant jump, okay?
05:47It's not the Mahomes 27 to 10 jump, but it's a big jump to get the guy that you wanted.
05:54They gave up three first-rounders and a third.
05:58And I bet you there were a lot of teams that were like, well, the Niners' picks, because of their
06:03history,
06:04they're probably going to be pretty far back, somewhere in the 20s.
06:08And those are picks that will come in handy if the Browns need to move up a few spots to
06:15go get their quarterback of the future.
06:18Chris, do you wonder why maybe Andrew Barry didn't pull the trigger on this last year when Miles was asking
06:23for a trade?
06:25And I wonder if his value would have been more a year ago.
06:30Yeah, I mean, I think his value would have been more.
06:35And for people to sit here and say, well, he didn't get enough.
06:39Okay, I'll listen on that argument.
06:42But then what are your options?
06:44Your options are not trade him and try and make sure that he is happy.
06:52But then you run the risk of winning six or seven games with him, let's say.
06:58I mean, I don't think that this team, even if Miles stuck on it, was going to win, even in
07:05a good year, nine games, I'm guessing, right?
07:11Like nine and eight?
07:11That's fair.
07:12I think that's very fair.
07:12I mean, I don't think it would have been a 13 or 14-win team.
07:17So regardless, it's a long shot that they would have won the Super Bowl, even with him, right?
07:22So now you're a year further down the road.
07:26He's a year older.
07:27You run the risk of him maybe being injured.
07:30Like, I think that this was probably the sweet spot for it, where Cleveland came to a decision like,
07:38okay, we've got a lot of good young pieces around.
07:43We've got far and away the best defensive player in the sport.
07:48Even though we've moved on from our defensive coordinator, we still feel like that defense can keep us in an
07:53awful lot of games.
07:55But we don't have the quarterback yet.
07:57And until you have at least a decent quarterback, you can't win.
08:03Some people say, well, Chris, what about Sam Darnold?
08:06Yeah, I get it.
08:07I don't know how many Seahawks games you watched last year, but Sam Darnold played really excellent football.
08:13And the year before, he was great outside of Week 18 and the playoff game.
08:18Great.
08:18I mean, excellent.
08:20We haven't seen that in a long time.
08:23So is it possible we could?
08:25Sure.
08:26But I think the hardest thing to do in sports is be honest with yourself, where your franchise is.
08:32And I think the Browns are kind of telling us where they think they are.
08:37And I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
08:38It's frustrating as hell for sports fans in Cleveland.
08:42But I think it's important.
08:47Can we go baseball?
08:49Can.
08:50Nine runs against the Yankees last night.
08:53That's nice.
08:53But Jose with three doubles and Bazzana with a huge hit and Manzardo coming.
08:59This offense is looking like something it wasn't last year, Chris, which is somewhat dangerous, the way these guys are
09:07moving along.
09:08Your thoughts mainly on what the young guys have done as they've incorporated themselves.
09:13Martinez, DeLauder, and now Bazzana.
09:15What do you think?
09:18Well, look, Bazzana, I'm thrilled with him.
09:23You know, all I ever saw was clips.
09:25And I think of him in the minor leagues and at Oregon State.
09:28Like, I wasn't sitting down and watching Beaver baseball, you know, with my time.
09:33And it's a dangerous place to live because you don't know what a guy does during at-bats.
09:42His at-bats are like for a guy who's been in the league seven years.
09:47That's how good his at-bats are.
09:49They're very rarely four swings.
09:52He might swing and miss.
09:54But they're like, they're good swings.
09:56He lays off such tough pitches and all that.
10:00And he's made a huge difference.
10:02I mean, I said this at the beginning of the year, guys, that Stephen Kwon could not be the second
10:06best offensive player on this team.
10:08And he's not.
10:09And unfortunately, because of the start that Stephen's gotten off to and the progression of some other guys, you know,
10:15he's kind of in the middle of the pack of where our offensive pecking order.
10:20We still don't have a great right-handed bat.
10:24I know that David Fry has been serviceable at times.
10:28But we don't have a true right-handed bat, right?
10:31You can flip Jose around, and he's awesome from the right side.
10:34Like, teams do not want to pitch to him when he's hitting right-handed.
10:37Martinez has slipped a bit, obviously, ever since he was the player of the week, which I should take credit
10:43for because the minute I said that he wasn't an everyday player, he went on that ridiculous tear for a
10:48week.
10:48And he's struggled since then.
10:49Yeah, I'll take it.
10:50I'm fine.
10:52But, look, overall, and, folks, there's a lack of right-handed hitting in this league.
10:58Like, everybody's going to be looking for a right-handed hitter at the trade deadline.
11:02There's one right now that would be available, in my opinion, and it's Casey Schmidt of the Giants.
11:09But I think you're going to have multiple teams that are going to try and pry him loose.
11:13There might be some other guys that slide through eventually, like maybe a Joe Adele does for the Angels, but
11:19he's really big power and kind of a swing-and-miss guy.
11:23This team desperately, desperately needs more proven right-handed.
11:28You know, poor Stuart Fairchild.
11:29He can't even put the ball in play when we need him to.
11:33That's tough to watch.
11:36Chris, in 10 seconds or less, are the Warriors a viable option for LeBron?
11:42There was a story out yesterday I saw about that.
11:43Just curious.
11:44Where does LeBron end up?
11:46I can't imagine that.
11:48If he really wants to win a ring, I can't imagine that's a spot where he'd want to go.
11:53So, okay.
11:55Just one of your thoughts.
11:56One of the L.A. perspective on that.
11:57That's why you're good at that.
11:58Thanks, Chris.
11:59Yeah.
12:00It doesn't mean I'm right.
12:01I just wouldn't believe that that team doesn't feel close.
12:06I'm with you.
12:06I just thought it was interesting when I saw you.
12:08I was like, I wonder if you'll stay in California.
12:10Chris, thank you.
12:12We appreciate it.
12:12We will talk to you soon.
12:14All right, boys.
12:14Thanks, Chris.
12:15Thanks.
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