00:00Todd McShay on the Todd McShay Show. The big debate is will Brennan Soarsby get cleared by
00:06the NCAA to play college football in 2026? And if not, will he go ahead and I think fulfill a
00:14threat? It feels more like a threat now than a reality to go ahead and bypass college and go
00:20into the supplemental draft. If that last part happens, Todd McShay has a suggestion for your
00:26Cleveland Browns. If I'm the, I don't know, the Browns, more importantly, like the Jets,
00:33the Cardinals, I'm meeting as if this is April 1st or maybe March 15th with my staff right now,
00:40like come back. Because if we have the quarterback coach and we have the contract right the right way,
00:45we have the psychologist putting a stamp on it. We have the FBI agents working in security department
00:51in our organization. If we can get aligned and say collectively, we are comfortable taking this
00:57risk. I'm not batting an eye, man. All right. That's really, really strong. Yeah. I, I am
01:04batting an eye, but I certainly think it has to be a conversation given what the quarterback room is.
01:09Yeah. I just, I don't know how you get, I don't know how you get comfortable. There's really only
01:15been one guy that one NFL starting quarterback that I can remember having real gambling problems
01:20coming into the NFL and it's Arch Leister. I know a lot of other people don't remember that name
01:25are really never pulled the nose up for art. Yeah. Different time, but still, you know,
01:31now it's legal. Now it's legal. And he, Hey, he was just betting on Reds games. It's not the end
01:35of
01:35the world. Right. I, I, I honestly am not concerned about the gambling side of things with him. I think
01:40he's a very, he's, he's a young kid, uh, and college with a lot of money. That's like, I, we
01:46can't be
01:46shocked that that that's how that went down. Now, does it show a level of just kind of being
01:50stupid? Yeah. Yeah, it does. Like if you can't pass the obvious test, maybe that, maybe that
01:54needs to be the bigger red flag of like, they give you like a couple things you can't do in
01:58college sports. Gambling should be at the highest. And if you're going to gamble, then maybe you
02:02can't, maybe you're just, just too dumb to mess with. Maybe. Is that the takeaway? Yeah. I mean,
02:07I think the fear is it takes him having a lapse of judgment or like a consistent lapse of judgment.
02:13No, really once. If he, if he tweets inside the, in this process though, that was a consistent
02:19lapse of judgment. But if he just has one of these in the NFL, that's a year gone, you know,
02:24or I think the first penalty is like, I think it was three to six games, but still, I mean,
02:28that's,
02:30that's it. I know technically injuries can take you at any point. It's how can you get peace of
02:36mind? Did he just think every quarterback and every person in college sports was just doing this?
02:39I think you shouldn't use the word think with this because I don't think there was a lot of
02:43thinking going on. I just wonder though, I did, did he think it was one of those things where,
02:47uh, it's just like enough of his teammates were doing it or somebody, he was under the assumption
02:51that this was an okay thing. And I don't know how you ever become as high in college football as
02:56he
02:57was and think that gambling on any other sport is an okay thing. I think what's fascinating about
03:02this part that's confusing me is the math of a supplemental draft. I don't expect a lot of our listeners
03:06to
03:06know how a supplemental draft works. It's basically all 32 teams put in a blind bid for the player.
03:12It is based off of last year's, uh, uh, draft order. And so, uh, the Raiders would get the first
03:19chance in the first round. And then if they didn't put one in, then it would go to the jets
03:23and then
03:23it would go to the Cardinals and then the Titans. And then, uh, the, oh gosh, who was the original?
03:30Oh, no, it was the giants and then the Browns. And then if you get through the first 32 picks
03:34and
03:34nobody submitted a bid in the first round, like last couple of years, second round, last couple
03:38of years, no players have been selected. Like I, in fairness, I can't remember the last time a
03:41player was selected. Maybe it was Jared Gaither. That's gotta be 15 years ago. It actually could
03:47be Josh Gordon for all I know. I, in Albert's piece, he had mentioned the past couple of years,
03:52no one had got selected. I was under the assumption that someone like three or four years had been,
03:55but I don't know who that is off the top of my head. The worst part is you're going to
03:57say the
03:57name and it will piss me off. I knew that. Yeah, probably. But I do think like the whole
04:04point is if you submit a bid and you're the winner, so you're the first pick, you know,
04:09if let's say you're the sixth pick of the second round, you then lose your second rounder the next
04:15year. Yeah. And I think we should clarify for people too, that aren't as familiar maybe with
04:18source B's game, the projections that he has is he would be a first rounder in 2027. Yeah. And
04:23like, so it's like, is he, does that mean he's a second rounder right now? McShay in this, in this
04:27clip tried making the case first rounder, you go for it. If you're the Browns. Like I, I just,
04:31I don't know. I don't know what teams are going to do with this. For me, the risk side of
04:36it isn't
04:36that large, all things considered. That depends on the risk. If it's a first round pick, I'm not doing
04:41it. No, I meant from the gambling perspective. Oh, okay. Like from that perspective, I'm not,
04:44I'm not as worried about that as I feel like other people are. Like when we had Ashley on,
04:47she's like, well, anybody with off field stuff, you just be cautious. Basically, I'm just not,
04:51I'm not as concerned about that with source B. I'm just not. But when it comes to actually weighing
04:56out, like this would be your, this would be your stab. This would be it. Like you're out of the
04:592027 draft completely. If you make this move, even if you only use a second rounder on him. And I
05:06think that's what makes this so interesting is the Steelers at 21, even though they just took
05:11Duraler might think to themselves, well, we don't plan on picking top 16 next year. We're going to go
05:17ahead and take this guy. And hopefully it's the 25th pick in the draft, right? Yeah.
05:21Uh, Oh gosh, who are there? Somebody else that makes a hell of a lot of sense in the,
05:25the back half of the first round that is escaping me right now. The Browns, I just,
05:29I can't imagine that they would risk a first rounder. I mean, even if you have a first round
05:33grade on him, how do you come out this year? What this would be is you guys, whoever this
05:37is, whether that's the Browns, the jets or the Cardinals saying, we need to win games
05:40this year. We need to start off. If that's a Cardinals, for instance, we're starting off
05:44before his tenure with some wins and that's, and we need to win immediately more than just,
05:48let's take this one year transition year that it feels like everyone wants the Browns and the
05:53Cardinals to be able to do. So if I tried to mesh my Browns thoughts on it, I immediately do
05:58kind
05:58of go where Ashley is, which is for the love of God, can we just not? What do you think
06:03Munkin's
06:04rooting for? Oh, I think Munkin wants to win this year. And I think if he thinks Sorsby's better than
06:09the two quarter, the three quarterbacks, four quarterbacks that he's got, oh, I bet you Munkin
06:13will be all over this. I think Munkin's rooting for it for sure. And here's the thing. Sorsby is
06:18a big athletic quarterback and he's like six, five, like two 25, two 30. He can move. He's got,
06:25he's got like the physical assets. I think what's fascinating is I don't remember thinking back to,
06:32you know, the, the draft determination process. I don't remember what anyone said he would have
06:36been this year. If he had come out, it did feel like everyone banked in a big year at Texas
06:41tech was
06:41going to catapult him in there. Yeah. But based off the physical skillset, this is a guy who at
06:47some point, if he comes out and continues to have success, you would expect to be a top 32 pick
06:52without question. So, and, and remember value based front office, if you can get somebody you
06:58think would be a top 10 pick next year for the 39th pick, you're going to look at that and
07:04saying
07:04that's an, an opportunity cost. You can go ahead and afford. I mean, where I agree with
07:08a hundred percent is you've got to get everyone that you think in your, your, your draft room,
07:12all your scouts, all your, everybody act as if the draft is happening again for the supplemental
07:16draft. And you got to evaluate this guy. And that's anybody that needs a quarterback or might
07:19need a quarterback in the next three years. Uh, the Todd McShay says the Browns should take
07:24Brennan Soresby. Uh, is this more in play than people believe? I, I, I will say, I think it has
07:30to be
07:30if you don't have a quarterback, you need to seriously consider this. Cause he was one of the guys
07:34that in 2027 was thought to be a potential top 10 pick, which is one more year in college.
07:40Odyssey NFL insider, Mark Slareth joined us last hour. He sounded off on Shador Sanders fans.
07:45We asked him about Shiloh's response to Mary Kay Cabot's report last week.
07:50Frankly, you know, Shador Sanders, you know, based on the coaches I talked to, I did several
07:55Cleveland games last year, the coaches on the staff, they have no reason to lie to me.
08:00There was a lot of work to be done and on film and you study him, there was a lot
08:04of work left
08:05to do. So it doesn't surprise me that Watson's ahead of the game. I think Shador has got some,
08:12you know, growing up to do, like we all did as young players. You got drafted in the fifth round
08:17for a reason is because your skillset or your interview process or whatever the case may be
08:23was not what NFL scouts and NFL management thought it should be. There wasn't a conspiracy
08:30and Kevin Stefanski didn't like, he didn't say, well, Shador's in, let's give him the crappy plays
08:37quick. The Shador stands, the sycophants are, they're so stupid and it's so ridiculous.
08:45The organization, yeah, a coach wants to be fired. So he's going to sabotage his young quarterback.
08:50Okay. Give me a break. You guys cannot be this stupid. I missed the part where he answered about
08:57Shiloh and Mary Kay. And that's part of the problem with this is that like when you, when you try
09:01to
09:01get to like a Shiloh and Mary Kay discussion, it just, it inevitably turns into just people just
09:07ripping on Shador Sanders. And like, that's so unfair to me because he's not, he's not his brother.
09:12He shouldn't be held responsible for his brother's actions. We don't do that in life, but for Shador,
09:17because he's a Sanders and that's his last name, we just kind of group everyone with the last name
09:21Sanders together. And I just don't, I don't love how that's become a development.
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