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00:00it's nate tice right here on the make it right call kyle right hotline nate how we doing today
00:06doing great i guess four o'clock means me that means yeah five o'clock usually five o'clock
00:13well hey you picked a great day to come on too because we had uh an explosive brown story today
00:17mary k cabot uh saying the inside track now belongs to deshaun watson which nate i think
00:23is kind of ridiculous that we went through three install days and now all of a sudden we have a
00:27front runner for this job like okay great way to way to really evaluate and figure it out
00:32what's your read though was it always going to be deshaun is that what is that the takeaway here
00:37well i there has been and this is just me reading context clues this is not me
00:42actually like knowing anything or talking to anyone it does really seem like they're trying
00:46to soft launch deshaun watson starting a little bit uh as far as just kind of going like yeah
00:51you know he's coming back and i know they they'll do the contract stuff with them that
00:56might not be indicative of how they feel about them anyways that's just more of them doing cat
00:59magic but it is just one it was just kind of curious to me that they never kind of fully
01:04unplugged
01:04they always kind of kept it a little warm so i'm not saying right now definitively that's it but it
01:10is just notable to me at least that they always kind of kept it just a little bit warm especially
01:14this offseason especially once once monkey came in nay do you think the uh that deshaun being a
01:20veteran do you think that's helped him in this process now i'm i'm a little bit more leaning on
01:24best player playing uh and do you think at this time if he's healthy that he could be just better
01:29than you know shador sanders at this point well yeah well the last time we saw sean watson wasn't
01:35you know it wasn't all pro football uh as well all for all pro quarterback play but i do think
01:41that
01:41does help um deshaun at least has some experience not only just handling any offense but multiple
01:48nfl offenses shader sanders has one year of that and i think even just from what i've acknowledged
01:53and what i've noticed when i studied him was that you know it took some time they had to kind
01:57of
01:57spoon feed him a little bit so now he's getting thrust into a whole new offense that might use
02:01different terminology and i think deshaun would have a better way of translating that um so and
02:07same with the you know same discussion can be with dylan gabriel as well and taylor green as well
02:11they are all young players it's hard to learn any new offense so that's going to help them in some
02:16aspects i'm sure it's just uh you know there's a few things where deshaun watson has done things that
02:21has indicated high play and i think that's going to show up when it's all notepads everyone's in
02:27shorts it's all clean it's day one install day two install so i think that's what's going to help
02:33them out now we'll see once camp starts and once you get into deeper installs once you get to maybe
02:38even preseason games who knows how they'll do that um that's going to indicate a lot too because they
02:42have to get deeper into the playbook maybe third downs red zones uh that type of stuff but i'm not
02:47shocked deshaun watson is leading this group and it's also you know it's not it's not the uh steve
02:53young joe montana quarterback room you know of yesteryear i guess i'm trying to figure out nate
02:57like what is what's the end goal for the browns with this it doesn't make sense to me like at
03:02least
03:02if you went with chador and he played well then you know you're on a rookie contract and then you
03:06keep this thing going deshaun is paid out at the end of the season like i i just i don't
03:10understand
03:10what the end goal is i think it's just the assess um like that's the thing i don't think this
03:16is
03:16locked in and done i think this is just more to assess i think they've done the browns and this
03:20is
03:20even just watching this draft was i thought they did a fantastic job this offseason uh they
03:25reconfigured the whole line they did they kept doing that in the draft as well uh for agency as
03:29well um so i do think that what they're trying to do is like hey we got to assess these
03:32guys and also
03:33the quarterbacks got to be good enough to assess everybody else like we got to see denzel boston we got
03:38to see casey conception like we got to see these guys and how they can operate uh but the quarterback
03:43play has got to be valid enough for them to do that so it's kind of talking about both sides
03:47of my
03:48mouth or chicken and egg you know whichever way you want to put it which guy is going to help
03:51the
03:52others look competent enough so i think right now they're just going with the vet and just deferring
03:57to that and also the guy with the biggest contract you know whether he has not lived up to it
04:02we all
04:02know that but i think there is some of that aspect of the nfl if we're going to come into
04:06this fresh
04:07okay this is how i'm going to assess it the guy that's the bet the guy that's paid the most
04:10okay
04:11we'll start with him at least for the first fresh again this is rookie camp we're not even at the
04:17june camp or even the august camp you know so it's so early into this process but i think that's
04:22what
04:22they are going to go that's kind of nfl level of thinking but what they're probably trying to do is
04:26that hey we got to at least assess some of these young guys and know what we got but i
04:30do think
04:30they've done a good job of also letting you evaluate the quarterbacks it's a way better
04:34circumstances than it was last year which was just it was already pretty dire but then the
04:39injuries just made it even more dire last year nate moving on to uh the draft and the browns
04:44draft in particular you know obviously the first four picks were outstanding the guy i want to talk
04:48about with you is i know you you're high on austin barber uh breaking down his film against miami he
04:53had some struggles against those really good defensive ends for miami what does he have to do
04:57to kind of get to that next level and be a starter in the nfl
05:01he i keep cleaning up his hands uh which is something that usually guys can improve in the
05:06nfl once they get under you know better coaching not to knock a lot of college off of the line
05:10coaches but that's usually where he can get cleaned up i really like his size i think he's got pretty
05:15good feet as well um his hands just kind of get all over the place but he has experience starting
05:20up both tackle spots and that's why i kind of always kept him high in the process uh i had
05:24him
05:24as a borderline top 50 player just because one there wasn't a lot of players in that kind of
05:29tier two offensive tackles and i liked him the most because i i actually it wasn't theory it
05:35wasn't like he was just a great athlete that had no good film or it wasn't like he was just
05:39had
05:39great film he's a bad athlete i thought he was kind of a good athlete and his film at times
05:43was good
05:44even if it with a lot of starts that's a little worrisome when they're not completely polished with
05:48that many starts but i do think there's a lot there and a lot to work with and a guy
05:53that
05:53i think gives flexibility because he can legitimately play both tackle spots so i think hand usage is going
05:59to be the one way that he can improve and get cleaner because i think he has the athleticism
06:02size to really stick out at left tackle as well not just right tackle but i think that flexibility
06:07gives a lot so that's the also the strong side of spencer fano is that he has flexibility he's what
06:13i call a best five enabler so he's going to always allow you to get your best five offensive lineman
06:18out
06:18there right now that has to be at left tackle but down the road that doesn't mean he has to
06:22stay
06:22left tackle maybe barber's the left tackle and fano's the right tackle you know fano all high school he
06:27played right tackle just his freshman year he played left tackle that's it um so i do like
06:32that's that's why i liked it so much it was a great landing spot i thought for him and i
06:36just i'm a
06:36little bit higher than i think the consensus on him because i do think he has the upside of being
06:39a good not amazing all pro caliber but a starting quality tackle nate tice yahoo sports nfl network
06:45joining us here on the make it right call kyle right hotline does the success of the draft does
06:50it hinge on the wide receiver selections uh no i think the whole line selection is more for me but
06:58one of them just has to hit luckily you know this is why maybe i'd like the draft class so
07:03much i
07:03really like casey casey concepcion and i was probably the highest guy in national media on
07:07denzel boston um he was my receiver too uh i think he has he was number 15 i think on
07:13my final big
07:14board receiver too that's good to hear because i was i was a boston guy as well but i did
07:18i didn't know
07:18you were that high on him super high yeah probably i legitimately think the highest guy
07:23people that do like on a public big board uh will probably promote i checked out but i think he
07:29really his game compares well to courtland sutton um and also moose and muhammad if you remember
07:35that name before panthers and bears receiver uh whereas physical he's he's an x but that doesn't
07:40mean he just has to line up as an on-ball isolated player i think he has the skill set
07:46and the
07:46blocking chops to move into the inside as well as what i call a power slot so i like that
07:51i just
07:51think this type of skill set is really not a lot of these guys are out there like i think
07:56the build
07:56the browns have tried to make cedric tillman work who's kind of a similar of archetype and i think
08:00boston is a much more dynamic player um he returned punts at six four 215 pounds in college and i
08:07i think
08:07good ones too you took him to the house so i just think he's a lot more smooth and fluid
08:11he's not
08:12going to be a burner but i do think he's and he's not a great yak guy um but that
08:17those will
08:17maybe be by two knocks but i just do think that this guy's got great ball skills strong hands i
08:22think
08:22he's going to really be great in the red zone as well so that's why i i'm super high on
08:26him and then
08:27they took concepci on who was a great compliment to boston i think he's more of a z or off
08:31-ball
08:31player um did gadget stuff early in his career but then now he became more of a real receiver with
08:37a
08:37the joke of the line i've kind of given about him is he's what cadarious tony was supposed to be
08:41because he didn't have like a rap career like so and i mean that as a compliment because he's so
08:46twitchy he has some drop issues um that that might be frustrating at times but he he's got a lot
08:53of
08:53upside he's a very exciting and fun player so i i really like both of their picks but yeah i
08:57was
08:57definitely the highest one of the highest guys on boston nate when you talk about boston i didn't
09:01admittedly i didn't have him as high i had conception fourth on my board when you think of boston what
09:06separates him from like malachite fields uh the brazil kid out of tennessee um even even
09:11cornell tate how state that long boundary x receiver on the ball you know 50 50 guy what
09:17separates him from those other guys well tate is a receiver one so that that makes it easy uh
09:23so i think carnell tate's game translates to everyone that's why i liked him so much
09:27um but malachite fields uh i thought i thought boston was a better more uh more dynamic downfield threat
09:33than fields they i also thought fields fields actually was surprising to me it was how twitchy
09:38and how quick he was out of his routes and about his routes um i thought just boston was also
09:43a
09:43better just had more natural ball catcher fields sometimes fought the ball not that his hands were
09:47bad i think boston had a little bit more catching range more than a dynamic ability to adjust for some
09:52throws but i thought fields was like i liked fields fields to me though is always going to be a
09:56secondary receiver or an auxiliary player um i thought the best you can get out fields is maybe juwan
10:02jennings and i really like juwan jennings that's a compliment but i think the best you could get out
10:06of boston is courtland sutton jennings is a great dirty work awesome player number two number three
10:13tight sutton is a borderline number one high into pro bowl caliber player so maybe that's just maybe
10:19the best way to kind of like encapsulate that um and then uh was there another player you asked
10:23me about too i'm sorry i can ramble oh no yeah the brazil kid out of tennessee i liked him
10:28i always
10:28question the tennessee guys a little bit yeah that that that i only could get so high someone
10:34playing in that offense he's a freak he's twitchy he's loose hit um he could eat up you know eat
10:40up
10:40ground i just thought he was a loose route runner uh which was good in some ways because it was
10:44nice
10:45to see his athleticism but i thought the details of his routes weren't that great so that kind of
10:48concerned me there's some off-field stuff with him as well some concerns that kind of came up
10:52um that might be hinted at too but it was one of those the tennessee offense it's like you got
10:57to
10:57knock those guys just naturally whether that's fair or not i think there's enough proof in the
11:01pudding to do it um but i also think that even though his athleticism made him a little bit different
11:06than tillman that came from that offense or um even hyatt that came from that offense i got drafted by
11:11the giants i actually liked brazil's game a little more than hyatt and i think i haven't kind of
11:17similarly graded to tillman but they're different tillman's more power you know strong
11:21and i think brazil is more of a collider and a very loose you know loose athlete so while i
11:28could
11:28see his upside and i understand that i he had a lot of buyer beware to me i actually thought
11:33he got
11:33drafted right where he should have gone i understand the appeal of him but he's just he's a little scary
11:38to me like those guys that's a lot of waterbell's rain do you think that todd munkin's going to work
11:45i think he was the best choice that they could have picked out of that of the uh what the
11:48kind of
11:48final results were um i think he has more chance to work than people are giving him i think what
11:53monk is and is that he you know he's nuts i mean that in a good way um is that
12:00he does an amazing job
12:01of adapting to his personnel he has run offenses at oklahoma state that were rpo heavy gun pistol
12:09made brandon whedon the first round pick uh to you know goes to tampa bay where it is you know
12:16eric oriel chuck it um every single down every single snap hey we got mike evans we got fitzpatrick
12:21let's just watch this thing um then he goes to georgia where he has kind of a merger of worlds
12:27some
12:28college stuff with some under center because they had a great o-line and a great running back room
12:33so let's just lean into that and we have brock bowers as well let's highlight him he actually
12:37got a talented tight end the ball in college not a lot of teams can do that well the browns
12:41had to
12:42actually do one that's harrow fan and he was ridiculous in college but uh but i do think that
12:46that's and then he goes to the ravens and he's like okay we got lamar okay now we got derrick
12:50henry
12:50now we're back in the high formation now we're moving patrick card around the formation so i think
12:54that's the strength of what he is as a play caller and it doesn't hurt that he at least has
12:59some
12:59experience as a head coach at southern miss you know we did it and he actually did a decent job
13:04and i don't know if you got anyone remembers the story and this i always thought this was so cool
13:07monk was when he was at southern miss his i think it was his first class of seniors um when
13:12they
13:12graduated he bought them all suits oh yeah i heard that i'm gonna help you get swept right to the
13:16next
13:16job like he's just he's he's a really cool personality or great guy and i'm i i think he has
13:22more chance
13:22of working because he just i think he knows what he is and i mean that in a good way
13:26as far as where he
13:27falls in things but i also think he's kind of underrated as an offensive mind an offensive play
13:32caller and they just game i know the quarterback thing is going to be the thing that hangs up but
13:35there should be no pressure on that this year it's next year's class and also with that you know or
13:40whatever we have this year these are all dark for us even tailing green um but it's just one of
13:44these
13:44things where he's going to at least give it the most chance to work at least on offense so i
13:48that's
13:48where i think that he's kind of getting underrated maybe in this process a little bit all right as a
13:52former quarterback though you mentioned tailing green i gotta ask you then i think there's so much more to
13:56him than a lot of people are giving him credit for i just yes his his arm angle is a
14:01little
14:01unorthodox and uh but like at the athletically he's insane and like i i don't know if it's guys
14:07like anthony richardson that just kind of cost him these like these these combine freaks athletic
14:12freaks uh but why did he go to the sixth round what am i missing here yeah he has some
14:19struggles with
14:19underneath accuracy but i i agree that some of the polish that he played with or some of the more
14:24um pro
14:26bobby petrino was his oc and then his interim head coach um like petrino's petrino like you can say
14:31whatever you want about what's happening in his career but the guy's actually a really good still
14:35offensive mind and he really asked you know tailing green to do some real things tailing green had more
14:41snaps of under center than ty simpson did and so many people are making a big deal about why you
14:46draft
14:46ty simpson at pick 13 is because he can do a couple snaps of under center which is uh a
14:50whole nother
14:51conversation but i i think what tailing green is this is the dart throw you take in on day three
14:56i'd much
14:57rather go with a cole payton or tailing green i'd tail great tailing green higher than kate
15:02clubnik uh you know i know what kate clubnik is what are you trying to achieve with kate clubnik the
15:0824th best starter if everything works out tailing green at least has a 10 chance let's say let's go
15:14five percent of being a real special athlete at the position that's worth taking in the sixth round
15:19to me um you know if you want to get into like oh what he could become you know call
15:24him kaepernick
15:25uh he moves kind of like randall cunningham but it's kind of kaepernick it would be maybe his upside as
15:30a
15:30player not perfect but a great athlete he can try to do some cool things as a thrower but i
15:36i liked him
15:36in a lot of aspects the i would say his underneath uh accuracy kind of hinders him and that'll scare
15:41a lot
15:41of coaches and evaluators when you can't consistently hit like the zero to five yard throws
15:46um but it's kind of the weird thing is that he actually becomes somewhat accurate more accurate
15:50down the field i have no stats to look at for this but i know i can look it up
15:53in a couple minutes but
15:54it is kind of like and i think that's another knock is that he already works with a coach that
15:58gives him advanced offensive stuff you know in petrino it wasn't like he was at a juco and then at
16:04wyoming and then just was working with a guy that's like oh my god i actually have an nfl quarterback
16:08like josh allen um like you know petrino's actually worked with guys and kind of knows that
16:12at that so maybe that knocked him a little bit too where it's like well petrino can't get this
16:16much consistency out of you what can i do but i thought he i had a fourth round grade on
16:21him um
16:21you know i went i went mendoza i actually had nussmeyer and ty simpson in the same tier and then
16:27i had carson beck and tailing green at kind of that next year of early day three guys for wildly
16:31different reasons uh but i do think that tailing green's a dark throw worth throwing um especially in
16:36the six rounds nate fantastic insight as always we appreciate you and we'll catch up with you later
16:40thank you thank you guys
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