00:00Coming in hot 8 o'clock tomorrow, not 9.45 because Todd Munkin's going to be in studio.
00:04So you're going to get an early start to coming in hot because Todd Munkin,
00:08the Cleveland Browns head coach, is going to be in studio at 8 o'clock.
00:112-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
00:13Mary Kay Cabot spoke to us about 40 minutes ago.
00:15I want to get back to this Cavs series coming up at 9.22.
00:18They did something yesterday that I don't think I've seen them do.
00:21And maybe I'm being a little bit hyperbolic here,
00:23but I want to run it by you guys before I go shooting my mouth off.
00:28Well, I'm going to shoot my mouth off and still run it by you guys coming up at 9.22.
00:31Mary Kay talked to her about the naming of the starter, when it should be,
00:37why they should be naming the starter right now.
00:40I got to tell you, the way that it was described, I got to agree.
00:46I want this done sooner than later.
00:49And I got a lot of people going, Kenny, come on.
00:52There's a lot of people going, Kenny, you're a Shanoor guy.
00:54You can't want – no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:55I still – yeah, I want Shanoor to start because I think a lot of people are –
00:59if you got Deshaun starting, there is a curiosity I can't deny.
01:03But there's no hope.
01:05There's no hope.
01:06Because then it just opens up a bunch of different conversations.
01:08I mean, where does the Deshaun Watson conversation go?
01:12It becomes a threat of whether or not to sign the guy to an extension.
01:16You shouldn't take it as a threat, guys.
01:19Browns fans shouldn't be taking it that way.
01:21That if you start one quarterback, oh, my God, if he plays well enough,
01:25they're going to sign him even longer.
01:27Like, no, no.
01:29But I have to trust or I have to believe that they are going to do what is right
01:34and they should put the head coach in charge of picking the player,
01:38of picking the starter.
01:39So I can get behind the reasoning, even if I don't like it,
01:42I can get behind the reasoning of Todd Munkin picking the starter,
01:44and I want it to be done sooner than later.
01:46Because Mary Kay's right.
01:47You do not get as much time as we think in training camp.
01:51So the ones that are going, Kenny, you're turning your back on Shador.
01:55It's not that.
01:56I want the best quarterback to play,
01:57and I want the quarterback that most people like more than the other one to play
02:01because I don't know how far this season's going to go.
02:04Okay, that's fair.
02:06But I'm not turning my back on anybody.
02:08I just want them to be a functional organization.
02:13And being a functional organization is trying to figure out
02:16where your starters are before you go out there.
02:19And if you're telling me, Kenny, they haven't even put on pads yet,
02:21maybe they will put on pads yet,
02:23and Shador will be undeniable in the three preseason games, right?
02:27I'd hope so.
02:28But you want to have that done.
02:30You want to have that ready.
02:31You have a new offense going in.
02:33Your offense sucked out loud over the last two years in the first place.
02:36You've got young guys and a totally new offensive line possibly
02:40to start this season off.
02:41You've got to hit the ground running, man.
02:43You've got to make your decision and go with it.
02:44So I've got to agree with Mary Kay.
02:46You've got to make your decision sooner than later.
02:48Before training camp, hell or high water,
02:51whether people are outside the gates with pitchforks and torches
02:55or whether they're just high-fiving you on the way in,
02:58you've got to make your decision before training camp.
03:00I guess, Kenny, I just...
03:02You don't have to tell us,
03:03but you've got to make your decision before training camp.
03:05I guess I just thought there wasn't much of a gap between them
03:08and that because of that we were going to get a legitimate competition.
03:12I don't know if there is, but come on, Anthony,
03:15you know no competition is legitimate.
03:17That's a...
03:18By the way, Coach Riz talking with Jonathan yesterday
03:20when they got in a heated debate.
03:21They were awesome.
03:22He brought...
03:22They were awesome.
03:22I would encourage anybody to go back and listen on the Odyssey app,
03:25but 100%, like, they're never fair and balanced.
03:29Just look at last year.
03:30Kevin, oh, yeah, four quarterbacks.
03:32No, you had two separate dueling competitions going on at the same time.
03:36That's always been forefront that it's not going to be an equal competition.
03:40Right, right, right.
03:41And so I'm glad that we got that out of our system.
03:44Like, it's never going to be fair and balanced completely.
03:47However, after three install days, like, where would a gap emerge?
03:54Is that Todd Munkin saying?
03:57And again, he hasn't publicly stated it.
03:59It's reporting.
03:59We've got to just make sure that everybody knows.
04:01From sources, yeah.
04:02From sources with Mary Kay.
04:03Clearly, Mary Kay has impeccable...
04:04Well, we'll have to ask him right to his face tomorrow at 8 a.m.
04:07Yeah.
04:08So I expect him to say, no, we haven't made up our mind on any of that,
04:11but obviously the players in the locker room, they tend to know these things,
04:15and assistant coaches behind the scenes, they tend to know these things,
04:18you know, before the public is let in on it.
04:21And all I'm saying is, what could Watson have done in three install days
04:29and meeting rooms and all that to forge ahead?
04:32That's what I'm wondering.
04:33I'll tell you guys this, and I got no problem telling you,
04:36because I think everybody's going to agree,
04:38so certainly there's no problem telling you.
04:40How many people trust the defense on this team?
04:4290% of Browns fans, easily?
04:44The only thing you'd be worried about is Mike Rutenberg
04:46going to mess up a good thing, right?
04:47Because you don't know who he is.
04:48But he seems like a high-energy guy, seems very high-energy,
04:52and almost the same way as a younger version of Jim Schwartz in so many ways.
04:55We'll find out, right?
04:57But I've told you before, interviewing the defense,
05:00talking to those players, talking to those players even without mics,
05:03it's a more mature group than I think I've seen in quite a long time,
05:07maybe ever, in the 14 years of being on the fan,
05:09and 18 years of technically being around the Browns
05:12at the old place I used to work at way back in the day.
05:15If they're that way, I think they resonate with you more than you think,
05:20as fans.
05:20And so they're looking at it going,
05:22hey, when's the offense going to get their head out of their ass?
05:25Because I think the players feel the same way you guys do about the offense.
05:28So hell or high water, you've got to make your decision.
05:30And if you've got to make your decision beforehand,
05:32I think Todd Munkin wants to do that.
05:33I think that he's going to agree with everything we're saying right now.
05:35If Todd Munkin wants to do that,
05:37then you've got to really have your decision made
05:39by the time they come back in late July
05:41to get this thing going and to start this season.
05:43Because I can't put these guys in this position of hemming and hawing
05:47and wondering who's going to play, who's not going to play,
05:49who's going to be their QB,
05:50all the other stuff that surrounds it.
05:52You make your decision, you need to go with it.
05:53And I understand that a lot of Browns fans ain't going to like it.
05:56But I'm going to let the head coach of the football team,
05:59not the marketing team,
06:01decide who the starting quarterback of the football team is.
06:03And that's the way it should be.
06:05I don't like it.
06:06I don't.
06:08I accept it.
06:10I accept him.
06:11He cannot care.
06:13Todd cannot care how I feel or how Anthony feels or anybody.
06:16I think you would want Shador to start, would you not?
06:19That's who I wanted.
06:19Okay, so he can't care.
06:21And hopefully, Shador would play well enough to start.
06:24But I can't guarantee that.
06:25I'm not around him all the time.
06:27So if it ends up being Deshaun Watson,
06:29I'm not going to assume that Shador is doing something wrong.
06:33I'm just going to assume that Deshaun Watson has returned to some physical form.
06:37Because again, you're working out.
06:39He ain't forgot how to work out.
06:41Sure.
06:41If he returns to some physical form, all right, let's see where it goes.
06:44I don't think it's going to go to a good place, but let's find out.
06:46And I don't think a lot of us do, but the one thing that I think we all knew is
06:50that
06:50just from an aptitude perspective, the guy who's been in the NFL longer with coaches
07:01and different installs and different operations over the years, like Deshaun Watson,
07:06was always going to have the edge over somebody who just got thrust into a situation,
07:12a bad situation last year for seven games.
07:14Like, we all knew that.
07:16So maybe that's just what this is reflecting, that there was an obvious advantage.
07:20But when we talk about naming a starting quarterback or having a QB1 in June,
07:25I just think you've got to allow Shador to realistically bridge that gap and see if he can.
07:31And I don't think there's any way he could have done that in three days of an install.
07:35I understand that.
07:36But again, it was just the thought of who would be the leader.
07:38It isn't who's guaranteed the spot.
07:40But by the time they get out of OTAs and we're ready to start training camp, yes,
07:43I would like them to make their decision.
07:46And we'll live with it.
07:48And if Shador goes out there during the preseason and plays exceedingly well
07:51and Deshaun Watson is sucking up the room, we'll obviously argue about it
07:54and argue whether or not Todd Munkin's making a mistake.
07:56Because everything's great now.
07:57He hasn't had to make many decisions for this football team.
08:00But I do know, and I think he feels this way,
08:03you can't go into training camp the same way you did last year.
08:06That was an unmitigated disaster.
08:08You can't do it that way.
