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00:05All the draft intel, all the things you want to know.
00:08Albert Breer, MMQB, joining us right now.
00:10Albert, welcome to the show, bud.
00:12Hey, guys. How you doing?
00:14Oh, we're finally here.
00:16We're finally here.
00:18We've arrived. I'm ready to see who they pick.
00:20We were just kind of talking about this.
00:22I do want to know how you're doing,
00:24but are you expecting fireworks from the Browns this week?
00:32I think they could move, yeah.
00:34I mean, I think, like, I think they're in a posture
00:38where they can be aggressive with their two first-round picks.
00:41And, you know, I'm with what a lot of other people think,
00:44which is that, you know, they'd like to address receiver and O-line,
00:48you know, ideally in the first round,
00:51but I think at the very least early on.
00:54And I think there are options there for them.
00:56And, you know, so I think, like, a lot of this for Andrew Berry,
01:00in his group, is going to be how you game the board, you know?
01:02And, like, so it's, like, do you view Maui Noah
01:07as definitely a tough tackle?
01:10If so, do you sit at six and take him
01:12and then, you know, try to maneuver from 24 to get a receiver there?
01:18Or do you see it as, well, like, Proctor and Freeling are close to what Maui Noah is
01:26and have more growth potential, could be long-term left tackles.
01:30So maybe we go ahead and take a Tate or a Tyson at six,
01:34and then we come back from 24 and even try to trade up
01:38and get in front of what might be a run at the position
01:41and take care of tackle that way.
01:43I think, you know, from that perspective,
01:45I think there could be some intrigue in that I just think, you know,
01:49if you're looking at the two picks together
01:52and you're looking at those two positions together, you know,
01:56I think there are going to be runs on both positions.
01:58And a lot of the course is going to be set, you know,
02:01by what the Browns choose to do at six.
02:04And I think there's even a possibility they trade down from six.
02:07And maybe that's to get in a more appropriate spot,
02:10take somebody like Proctor or Freeling.
02:13You know, there's just, like, a lot of options as far as what they can do
02:16that are opened up by the fact that they've got two first-rounders.
02:19Yeah, and that's kind of where we're at,
02:20where it just kind of feels like, Albert,
02:22nothing would really surprise us with what they end up doing
02:24because there are so many different options that they can take.
02:28Yeah, and I think it's, at the very least, like, the good thing is,
02:33like, I do think that there's a little bit of depth in both those positions.
02:36You know, so I think seven offensive tackles will go on the first round.
02:39I think it's going to be Maui Noah, the two Utah kids,
02:42Monroe Freeling, Caden Proctor, Blake Miller, and Max Ahanichor.
02:47And I think, like, one or two of those guys at least makes it
02:51to where the Browns are picking at 24.
02:53As far as the receivers go, I think probably six go in the first round.
02:57So those would be Carnell Tate, Jordan Tyson, Omar Cooper,
03:02Makai Lemon, Casey Concepcion, and Denzel Boston.
03:08And so, like, I think a couple of those guys would be available at 24.
03:13So how do you view it?
03:14Especially if, you know, let's say the Giants don't take a receiver at five,
03:19which I think they probably will, but if they don't,
03:21you might have your pick of every player at both positions, you know?
03:26In which case, you can kind of take whichever one you like best
03:30and then maneuver with the second pick to fill the other spot.
03:34Albert, voluntary OTAs going on here in Cleveland.
03:37And Shador Sanders talked today.
03:40Todd Munkin also spoke today.
03:42I want to play a piece of sound about Shador talking about his relationship
03:46with Todd Munkin, and I want to get your reaction in a second.
03:49You ready?
03:50Yep.
03:50All right, here we go.
03:51Coach just spoke life into me.
03:53And they're like, when you do that, you just get the best result from me,
03:56honestly.
03:56That's what you get.
03:57So I was here one day, and he was like, well, if you want to be the best quarterback
04:04you want to be, then you got to do that on a daily thing, on a daily regimen,
04:09on a daily time.
04:09So that's what clicked for me, and then I was like, okay, I need to improve this area.
04:15And it's just one step at a time.
04:16You got to do this, you got to do this, you got to do this.
04:18And you keep adding things as you start getting momentum and everything.
04:22So I think it's just having Coach, you know, just talking to you.
04:25You know, like, I think that's it, just a relationship.
04:27I'm a relationship-based person, so I take relationships extremely serious.
04:31So we've got him saying new energy, new vibes, a little bit different than what we heard
04:37from him in December, kind of the end of the season.
04:39Todd Munkin has kind of talked about this as well.
04:41What's your read on what you heard from Shador there?
04:44I mean, I don't know if you guys noticed it, but it does feel like there's like a new
04:47energy in his life, you know what I mean?
04:49Like, so that was good to hear.
04:50I know it might be a little bit of a superficial thing, but, you know, it does seem like he's
04:55genuinely excited about the new coaching staff coming in, and I think that's a good sign
04:59for him.
05:00I think it's also a good sign for, you know, how maybe Todd Munkin and his staff are resonating
05:05right now with their players.
05:08So that's good.
05:10You know, I think the idea for Shador is going to have to be, again, like taking a real hard
05:18look at where he was last year, how far he has to go, and, you know, I think, like, honestly,
05:27you know, when I hear him talk, I kind of wonder, like, did all of the attention, did that wind
05:33up beating him down to a degree last year, you know?
05:36And here's what I mean by that is, and you guys know I got sick of talking about it, right?
05:42Like, it was just an everyday thing, and that's a long year for any player, because what happens
05:48is they play their last college season, and then they go right into the pre-draft process,
05:52and they're off at some facility in Arizona or Texas or Florida or California, and then
05:58it's from there to the 30-visit circuit to all the pre-draft media, then the draft, and
06:05they're thrown into their first off-season program, then it's training camp, and you
06:09just don't stop until the end of your rookie year, and so that's already a long year for
06:16any player going through that, and Shador had all of this attention, which I think he embraced
06:22at first, but, like, may have worn him down over the course of time, and so I just, I think
06:28that the newness of everything has maybe given him a little bit of a chance to reset, and now
06:33we'll see where it goes.
06:35You guys know where I've stood on this.
06:37Like, he's a fifth-round pick.
06:39I don't think this was ever a guy who was, like, really seen as a first-round talent by
06:43many teams, but there have been guys who've been drafted outside the first round who've
06:47made it in that position in the past, and it does look like he's in a good position right
06:53now to get an opportunity that other fifth-round picks going into their second year wouldn't
06:59get, so things are lining up, and he's going to have a chance to compete with Deshaun Watson
07:05and Dylan Gabriel, and now we see where it goes.
07:07Yeah, Albert, all three quarterbacks did throw today, and they rotated first-team reps between
07:12Shador and Deshaun Watson.
07:13What I wanted to ask you about, though, is the idea that Shador and Dylan Gabriel both
07:16spoke to the media, and I don't know, maybe Deshaun will speak tomorrow, and that's part
07:20of the cards, and I wasn't aware of that, or I'm just not, I haven't been told that,
07:23but how much can the Browns actually protect Deshaun, and especially right now in this
07:29little stretch that we're on where it's voluntary?
07:32I just kind of looked at it and thought it was a little weird that every quarterback spoke
07:35today and then Deshaun didn't.
07:37I mean, I don't know.
07:39Like, I think to some degree it does feel like that relationship, you know, between that
07:44relationship between the media and Deshaun, and I don't know, like, the city and Deshaun's
07:52been broken a little bit, and, you know, what I just said about there being a new start
07:56for everybody, I think there's an opportunity to rebuild that now, you know?
08:00Like, I mean, like, God knows, like, no one's expecting a ton this year, you know?
08:06So, what this looks like in September and October and November, I don't think anybody's
08:12got, like, outsized expectations, and just like I said about Shador, like, this time of
08:18year, there's a good chance to kind of hit the reset button and, you know, have a chance
08:25to give everybody a new outlook on where things are, and I would hope that Deshaun would take
08:31advantage of that opportunity, because I think that opportunity is in front of him now.
08:35Again, nobody's expecting a lot this year.
08:37He's in the last year of his contract, and, you know, maybe this is where he can turn his
08:42career around, and I know talking to people in the media, people like me, may not be the
08:48most relevant thing in the world, but I do think he can make his life easier if he starts
08:52to rebuild some of those relationships as well.
08:55So, speaking of interesting relationships with the media, that's not a great segue here.
09:01Mike Frabel did talk today, Patriots head coach.
09:04I know you saw maybe some of the comments, but did you see the full video of his statement
09:09today?
09:10Yeah.
09:12Obviously, you follow the Patriots very closely living up there and, you know, your time up
09:17there.
09:17I'm just curious, kind of, your stance on Mike Frabel's pressure today.
09:22I think he did what he had to do, you know, I think for a couple different reasons.
09:27Number one, he didn't address the team yesterday, and I think that was important, and the reason
09:31why I think that's important is because if you're asking your players for accountability and
09:37you're asking them to make good decisions, and then something like this happens, and you
09:42don't address it, those guys talk, you know?
09:44So, there's no way that your message, that message about making good decisions, about
09:52being accountable to the team, is going to ring true if you're not accountable for something
09:59that's so public and so out there and has been such a talking point for everybody across
10:04the country, right?
10:05So, like, he checks that box by addressing his team, and I was told he was very genuine
10:10with his players.
10:12So, like, that's one piece of it.
10:15Then the second piece of it is the forward-facing piece of it, the public piece of it.
10:19And, like, again, I think this is not about being fair to the media.
10:23I think this is about being fair to the people that you work with.
10:26And, you know, if Mike doesn't get up there and talk about it, and doesn't get up there
10:32and address it, there's this vacuum that needs to be filled.
10:36And that's going to be filled by reporters asking players what they think about the incident.
10:41It's going to be filled by people talking about it and continuing to talk about it.
10:47It's going to be filled, it would be filled on Friday night by people asking questions about
10:53after the Patriots make a draft pick and taking the focus off whoever that kid is who goes
10:5831st overall and putting it back on Mike Brable and Diana Rossini.
11:03So, you know, I think, like, by doing what he did today, I mean, you can argue about the
11:09way it was delivered and everything, but I do think it alleviates some of the pressure
11:12that was on everybody else, which I think was his intention.
11:15So, you know, we'll see where it goes from here.
11:19I don't think everybody's going to suddenly stop talking about it, but I do think some of
11:23the, some of the hysteria that surrounded it maybe calms down a little bit.
11:29I was, I was interested to see that, like, you know, when someone, I think someone asked
11:35him afterwards, this wasn't on camera about, like, you know, his thoughts on Diana losing
11:39her job and he didn't comment on that.
11:42I think he chose not to comment on that, which I thought was interesting and maybe, you
11:46know, will lead to a little bit more dissection of that part of it at least.
11:50Was the Dexter Lawrence deal, was that an overpay in your opinion, or was that just something
11:54they had to do because you got to keep Joe Burrow at least relatively happy, all things
11:58considered, now three years not making the playoffs?
12:01I mean, the first thing I would tell you is that people, you know, with other teams were
12:06pretty surprised that the Giants were able to get the 10th overall pick for Dexter Lawrence.
12:11So, like, the return was really good.
12:14You know, I dug this up.
12:16This is the first time that a top 10 player, a top 10 pick was traded for a non-quarterback
12:22queen, you know, without givebacks.
12:25Since Randy Moss's trade from Minnesota to Oakland in 2005, so it's been 21 years.
12:34After talking to the Bengals people, though, I, you know, I have a better understanding
12:37of it.
12:38The makeup of this year's draft is different, and the way they viewed it was the guy we're
12:43going to be taking at 10 is likely going to have a mid to late first round grade, but
12:49doesn't have the value it once did, the pick doesn't have the value it would in some other
12:54years.
12:56And, you know, I think because of the position and because he's a guy that offenses have to
13:01worry about when they break the huddle on every single snap, he brings a dynamic that
13:06I think would have been hard to get with a draft pick.
13:10The other piece, and I think this one is an important one, is yes, he's 28 turning 29,
13:15and that means he's not young in football terms, but guys in his position have lasted.
13:21And so, you know, if he can stay motivated, there's examples out there.
13:25Chris Jones, he's still a guy that, you know, offenses have to have to game plan about, game
13:31plan around.
13:32He turns 32 this summer.
13:34Aaron Donald was dominant for his entire career, 10 years.
13:38His final year playing football, he was 32 years old.
13:41So, that puts you in a position where you can look at Dexter Lawrence and at least have,
13:46you know, some realistic hope that you're going to get three or four more really good
13:49years out of him.
13:50Albert, great stuff as always, buddy.
13:52Love having you this time.
13:53Well, love having you all year round, but you always kill it this time of year.
13:57We appreciate you, and we'll talk to you next Tuesday, recapping all the nonsense from
14:00the next couple days.
14:02Thanks, guys.
14:03Have a good one.
14:04You too, buddy.
14:04Albert Breer there, MMQB on the Make It Right Call, Kyle Wright Hotline.
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