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Shan, RJ, and Bobby went Inside The Star to discuss Brandon Aubrey’s contract and how the expiring RFA deadline gives Dallas massive leverage. RJ then shared some of his own Cowboys Draft proclamations regarding first-round edge production and more.

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00:00The deadline for a restricted free agent to receive an offer sheet is today,
00:05and it looks like nothing has come in for Cowboy kicker Brandon Aubrey.
00:11Nope, and they seem to be playing Aubrey the exact same way that they're playing Pickens,
00:16which I guess you could view that one of two ways.
00:19If you're George Pickens, you can be like,
00:20maybe I shouldn't take as much offense to the negotiating tactic.
00:23They're doing it to Brandon Aubrey.
00:25And if you're Brandon Aubrey, maybe say,
00:26I take a little offense to this negotiating tactic.
00:29They're treating me like I'm George Pickens.
00:30But the reality is that Dallas has never in any negotiation entering an offseason
00:36had as much leverage or reason not to do something as they have with Brandon Aubrey.
00:42They're just where they're at and what they want is so far off base from what Dallas wants
00:48and what Dallas can really essentially force him to be on for this year.
00:52You think it's likely that Todd France or Mooligeta look at their fishing line,
00:57not moving whatsoever from any other team trying to come get them,
01:01who is more likely if either to call the Cowboys and say,
01:07okay, let's sit here and let's talk about a more realistic number?
01:11Aubrey.
01:11Yeah.
01:12Yeah.
01:12I mean, they've done that with France before.
01:14They've been able to get stuff done with him on that front before.
01:18Aubrey is in so much worse of a position to just basically demand above what it is.
01:25If they're going to offer something above what he's got on the tender,
01:29then he should probably look at taking that.
01:31But I think that would be the bigger chance.
01:33I don't think that Pickens has gotten an offer.
01:36I don't think he's going to.
01:37Aubrey, I think they've at least discussed some numbers,
01:39even if an official offer hasn't been slid across.
01:42If Aubrey plays on the second round tender, he will get a one-year salary of $5.81 million.
01:48That's going to sting a little bit.
01:50I mean, yeah, it stings less than eight.
01:53That's for sure.
01:54But, yeah, it's definitely going to sting a little bit.
01:56Stings more than eight.
01:58It stings more than eight.
02:00If he got eight million, it would sting less.
02:02He's saying it stings for the Cowboys a little bit.
02:07Oh, okay.
02:08I was saying for Aubrey.
02:09He's talking about for Aubrey.
02:09Oh, no, no.
02:10Yeah.
02:10I mean, that'll sting for Aubrey to make 5.8 for the kicker that the entire world talked about as
02:16a freak.
02:17For sure.
02:18Now, from the Cowboys' perspective, they're stoked.
02:21They're stoked about this.
02:22This is the best possible case scenario, other than the fact that you probably upset one of your players.
02:28Right.
02:29But does that upset them?
02:31Yeah.
02:31Or should they realistically look at it as like, you know what, they can make me play on this.
02:36They were willing to go above that.
02:39That we had a line we wanted to get to, and we just expect them to be solid.
02:43But you got to remember the last negotiation they had with France, France had said, I've got all the leverage.
02:49You are going to give me everything.
02:50And the Cowboys did.
02:52Similarly, I would think France could look at it and go like, yeah, turnabout's fair play.
02:56They have all the leverage.
02:57They're not going to just hand me something.
03:00RJ Choppy with a couple of proclamations for the Dallas Cowboys draft.
03:06Why they should not move up.
03:08And why they have to take an edge in round one.
03:12All right.
03:12Which one do you want?
03:13We're edging here?
03:13We're going to edge here.
03:14Now, so I went and looked.
03:16And, you know, CBS did a really nice job of putting together some of the non-quarterback deals in the
03:21more recent years.
03:23And how they turned out.
03:24And whether or not the Cowboys need to be kind of, not wary, but careful in what they're doing.
03:31So we'll put on our Sonny Weaver hats, you draft day fans out there.
03:34Yeah, I had no clue who that was.
03:36You didn't know who that was?
03:37Nope, never seen it.
03:38Oh, it's a wonderfully bad movie.
03:41Yeah, when everyone instantly said, this sucks, this is bad, it's hard to lure me back.
03:46Yeah, but it's one of those movies that's bad that you watch over and over again, like Lake Placid.
03:50Okay.
03:51Lake Placid's a terrible movie that every time it's on.
03:53Sounds very much like those are two movies you've seen that I don't know that any of us have.
03:56Me and Bill Pullman are just, we're kismet here.
04:01All right, so if you went back and looked, and you know, Jacksonville last year, they traded two firsts to
04:05go up and get Travis Hunter from five to two.
04:08And he did absolutely nothing for them this year.
04:10And that looks like a pretty terrible trade right now.
04:12About to be moved to full-time corner listening to the Jaguars, so they are moving off of the whole
04:17receiver angle.
04:17I mean, that was a quick move.
04:19Yeah.
04:20I mean, yeah, they were a little outside the normal lockstep, though, and also saying he would play some receiver.
04:25Most teams did think he'd be a full-time corner.
04:27So you've got a team that had 13 wins last year, now has nothing in the first round.
04:32You know, they traded away their first-round pick, and they got a little gutted in free agency.
04:38So another one.
04:39He also got hurt.
04:41He also got hurt.
04:42Another one.
04:42Houston traded two ones to go up from 12-3 and take Will Anderson.
04:49Success.
04:50Success.
04:5112-3, kind of like this year.
04:52Will is awesome.
04:53Who went 12 that year?
04:55Jameer Gibbs.
04:57Ah, perfect.
04:58So, would you rather have Jameer Gibbs and a 1 and a 2 still, or just Will Anderson?
05:07What team am I?
05:07Am I this team?
05:08Am I this team?
05:09I'd rather have Will Anderson.
05:10Yeah, I mean, yeah, it depends on who you are.
05:12But, you know, you're building a roster.
05:15The Eagles traded a 12 and a 3 to go get Devontae Smith.
05:24Right?
05:25They went up to go get him.
05:27Yeah, Dallas actually really benefited on that trade.
05:30They got way over what they should have got for that move up.
05:32To go two spots up, they added another three.
05:35And that same draft, the Eagles had the sixth pick that year.
05:39They traded back with Miami, and they went back to 12 before making the trade with the Cowboys.
05:44Miami took Waddle.
05:46Right?
05:46So, the Eagles got Smith anyway and moved off of 12.
05:50Dallas took Micah.
05:50But, if they were at 6, you know, they could have still gotten their receiver.
05:55But, they moved back off it.
05:57And, trading up is Miami.
05:59You know, did Miami get fair value?
06:00They're getting Waddle.
06:02That doesn't mean you don't do it.
06:03But, you know, we are seeing teams, all these teams high-five each other when they make these moves.
06:07Yeah.
06:07Right?
06:08That's one thing you see.
06:08We got our guy.
06:09We got our guy.
06:09We high-five everybody.
06:11And then, sometimes they work, like Will Anderson's worked.
06:13And then, sometimes they don't.
06:15Right?
06:15And, obviously, that's the tug of war that you're going to have to play.
06:18Again, it doesn't mean don't do it.
06:19But, when you're looking at non-quarterbacks, you're really moving up for somebody that may or may not have the
06:25impact that you're hoping for when you're paying that premium.
06:29Washington coming out.
06:30Adam Peters, the GM.
06:32And, of course, all these guys lie and give the same standard company lines.
06:35But, he's like, as things stand right now, more likely than not that we stick and pick at seven.
06:40Now, Washington scares me a little bit in this thing.
06:42I know Choppy said the draft turns and starts getting decided at five.
06:47Could be three with Arizona.
06:49Yeah.
06:49But, Washington scares me, too.
06:51Because, I'm like, Dan Quinn's not going to sneak in here for styles.
06:55Dan Quinn's not going to sneak in here for downs.
06:58Dan Quinn, is he just going to go and get a running back?
07:01Is he going to get a receiver?
07:02I don't know what Washington's going to do.
07:04So, I just, asking around in the last week or so, which you always get some BS around this time.
07:11But, when things start, I think, crystallizing around this point.
07:16And, the chatter consistently out of Washington has been, if Jeremiah Love was there, that would be their dream scenario.
07:22And, they would take him.
07:24Wow.
07:24If he's not there, the likeliest scenario is Cardinal Tate.
07:27And, then, if that's not the pick, the possible alternate would be downs.
07:32So, I think for them, yeah, it would be, I don't expect Love to be there right now.
07:36Tate should be.
07:37So, if that's the case, then I would think Tate would be, and downs would continue to slip past Washington.
07:43Why do the Cowboys have to draft an edge round one?
07:46So, history says that if you draft an edge outside the first round, on average, they produce about 50%
07:54of, and the stat we're using here is like,
07:57its profile reference is approximate value that they have.
08:00And, you know that stat, the weight of approximate value.
08:02They produce about 50%, anybody outside the first round, 50% of what a first round edge rusher produces.
08:07That's the largest drop-off of any position in the NFL draft.
08:11Wow.
08:11That's a larger drop-off than quarterback.
08:14If you look at the other, so, it's 51%.
08:17And, then, it pretty much levels off until you get to the rounds 5, 6, and 7.
08:21Defensive tackle, they produce about 60%, 63% of their first round.
08:27Linebackers, 83%.
08:28But, this is why you typically don't see safeties in the first round.
08:33A second round safety produces about 98% of the approximate value as a first rounder.
08:38Hmm.
08:39And, McNeil Warren?
08:41Yeah.
08:41And, that's just the...
08:42The thought being that a lot of years, there's not even a safety that goes in the first round.
08:46Usually, the highest they get picked is second.
08:48And, somebody...
08:49So, you're still talking about that second round safety, a lot of times, will be the top safety taken.
08:53And, so, a lot of times, that has to do with positional value.
08:55But, yeah, it's...
08:57The drop-off generally is greater with an edge.
08:59And, that's why, you know, if you're looking at it, and you're sitting there, and you're like,
09:02Alright, do we take...
09:03You know, do we want to move up and get Reese?
09:05Do we want to move up and get Bailey?
09:06Versus stay and take downs.
09:08And, these are career returns?
09:10Or, are these just rookie year...
09:12It's...
09:13I think it's within the first contract.
09:15Okay.
09:15It's within the first contract.
09:17So, when you look at it, and you go back, it's like, Alright, do you want to move up and
09:20get those guys?
09:20Or, if you stick at 12, and you have a chance, and you see, okay, there's Bain there, and Downs
09:25on the board, or whoever.
09:27Does that weigh into your decision at all?
09:30Because, you know, like...
09:31You have a better chance of hitting on your second-round quarterback than your second-round edge rusher.
09:35I think they...
09:36Even though, like, Sonny Stiles is the top linebacker in the draft, and if he's sitting there, wow, that'd be
09:41such a huge value.
09:42I could definitely see them saying, linebacker, we can find somebody to play for us year one in the third
09:47round.
09:47We can do that.
09:48And so, I think I'd have a very hard time seeing them getting out of the first round, and they
09:52have not taken some sort of an edge.
09:54Whether that be edge at 12, and then...
09:57In the first?
09:57Yeah, edge at 12, and then corner at 20.
09:59Or corner at 12, edge at 20.
10:02One of those picks, I would imagine, will be an edge rusher.
10:05What do they move up?
10:07Then they're moving up for an edge rusher.
10:09I think they can move up for Downs.
10:11I don't think so.
10:12I think if they move up, they're moving up for an edge rusher.
10:15Really?
10:15Yeah.
10:18Historically, that would make the most sense.
10:20Yeah, but...
10:22I mean, everything we've heard, they love Caleb Downs.
10:25They do.
10:26Yeah.
10:26They do.
10:27You think they love Reese or Bailey just as much or more?
10:30More.
10:31More?
10:31Yeah.
10:32Which is...
10:32On both?
10:33Yeah, which makes...
10:33I mean, they're top three players.
10:35Yeah.
10:35And I think positional value...
10:36They think these are all great players.
10:38Positional value-wise, that's different right there for Reese and Bailey.
10:41So, they have so many holes, I think they just would look at it and say, okay, we love Downs.
10:46Do we love Downs enough to sacrifice the second pick that we have?
10:49Not necessarily.
10:50Bailey and Reese?
10:51Maybe.
10:52We're starting to, not here, get away from Bain at 12.
10:58I think it's because they believe they're going to have guys at their pick that they like more.
11:05I don't...
11:06I wouldn't say that it's just an impossibility that they come out of the first round and Ruben Bain is
11:11the 12th pick.
11:12That could happen.
11:13I just think that there are other scenarios that they would look at and say, we feel pretty positive that
11:18one of these is going to fall to us and we're going to have that above them.
11:21They also wouldn't have an edge if they moved up for Styles.
11:25Right.
11:25Yeah, I don't know that they would move up for Styles.
11:28Oh.
11:29I think that their move up would potentially be about an edge rusher if they were going to go up.
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