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Bobby took us Below The Belt to discuss George Pickens signing his franchise tag, sparking a debate on whether the star receiver will remain in Dallas long term. They also dug into the Cowboys' massive defensive makeover under Christian Parker, its impact on the team, and more.
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00:00It may not be good, but it's definitely not going to be the same.
00:04Let's talk about it here in Below the Belt, which is sponsored by Window Nation.
00:09Talking about the Cowboys defense here in just a second, all the turnover that they've had there.
00:13Before we get into that, we do have the end of all the drama.
00:17There will be no more questions.
00:18I would imagine there's no more social media posts that will be interpreted or side comments.
00:24Or did you hear what this National Insider said on a podcast that sounds like something happened there?
00:30Because George Pickens has signed the tag.
00:33It's done.
00:34All behind us.
00:35Only not really, I would imagine.
00:36Yeah, I want to applaud.
00:37I'm trusting Bobby here.
00:39Of course, you always trust me.
00:40And I'll be forever bitter if we get a trade demand or George doesn't show up to training camp.
00:48Then I will take out my anger and vengeance on Roberto.
00:51But I'm betting and feeling right now that this is all kumbaya and we're moving forward with a season to
00:58play out.
00:58Now, I would still hold up one pause and that's, I assume he's going to be, but I don't know
01:06that he's good.
01:07I wouldn't say with certainty that he's going to be at the OTA stuff, the volunteer stuff.
01:10He may skip that.
01:11Yeah.
01:12But yeah, the training camp, the games, he's going to be there.
01:14And I'm not going to have a problem with him if he skips the OTAs and minicamp.
01:17And I don't think that, I don't think that the trade, again.
01:23By the way, man, NFLPA, they got to get rid of this tag.
01:27Oh, yeah.
01:28Got to get rid of the tag.
01:29Or at the very least, they've got to get rid of the, you can do it twice if you want.
01:33Or even, you know, three times.
01:34It gets super expensive, but you can do it three times.
01:36Like, you can.
01:37Maybe I'm Dallas scar, but it just feels like, yeah, it can benefit the, it feels like it's happening to
01:43too good of a player.
01:45Versus just like, well, that guy, we don't want to lose him, but he's not a superstar.
01:50So it will benefit him to make the average of the top five salaries in the league.
01:55But when it comes down to a George Pickens and other guys who are really being robbed of millions and
02:01millions of dollars
02:02with the potential for a second tag as well.
02:05Especially when, especially when it is so, this sport, and a lot of the sports, basketball hasn't gotten down this
02:13road yet,
02:14but baseball has for sure.
02:16Teams are much more apt to, oh, I'll just draft somebody instead.
02:21Instead of re-sign, how many guys get a second contract in the NFL that aren't first round picks?
02:28I mean, especially running back.
02:29Yeah, I mean, if you're not a first round pick, less than, it's like, less than 40% of non
02:35-first round picks get a second contract.
02:37So it has been suggested, I don't know, you can tell me if you think this is a palatable middle
02:42ground.
02:42I know that there's some who have suggested the idea that the franchise tag can stay,
02:49but it's going to have a very narrow application,
02:52which is you can only tag somebody one time at the expiration of their rookie deal
02:59and only if they were not a fifth-year option player.
03:02So like, if it's a four-year contract, only the first rounders get five years.
03:05Everybody else gets four.
03:06So the idea would be the second through seventh rounders are passed at the expiration of the deal.
03:10You can tag them one year to get them to five like you would a first rounder.
03:13And other than that, after that, it's over and you don't get to tag them.
03:15And you can't tag first rounders?
03:17You wouldn't be able to tag a first rounder.
03:18It would just be because they already have five years built into their contract.
03:20So this would just be leveling out five years across the board, potentially.
03:23Like, you get one tag you can throw on at the end of their rookie deal and that's it.
03:26Because then the idea is they get their earning potential into their future years after that.
03:29It's early in their careers and it's like an adjustment.
03:33All right, so George Pickens, yeah, I would expect he's going to be here.
03:37I think that George Pickens wants a long-term deal in Dallas.
03:41I think George Pickens, if he's not going to get a long-term deal in Dallas,
03:45wants to work for the long-term deal here in Dallas.
03:48Like, whether it's with another team in the future or whatever else,
03:50I think he wants to put it on display this year for the Cowboys.
03:52I think he likes being here.
03:53I think he likes the rhythm that he's found with the guys.
03:56I think he's close with CD, close with Dak.
03:59So I would be really surprised if even if they were resigned on his side or the Cowboys side,
04:05if they were both resigned to the fact that, like, this is it.
04:07This is the farewell tour.
04:08I don't think he would look to get out of here any earlier.
04:12I think he wants to just, all right, then we would just wrap this up
04:15and then we'll look to the future after that.
04:17And I think that's honestly his best play.
04:18You know you fit here.
04:20You know you're able to operate within these walls because you just did it last year.
04:23Well, he doesn't fit here if what your guess is, if it's true,
04:29that no matter what happens this year, they're not signing him.
04:33Right.
04:33No, I'm saying –
04:34I'm going to make a list.
04:35I'm not going to do it right now.
04:36You can check twice.
04:37I'm going to make a list of the personalities they have put up with here.
04:43And then I'm going to compare that to what George Pickens has done
04:48and try to figure out how they can make such a 100% determination
04:55that this is so bad compared to some of the other crap that they allow around here.
04:59Yeah, no, I'm not –
05:00If this is the case, I'm going to choose not to believe it's the case.
05:03I'm going to choose to believe that George Pickens can have a fantastic year,
05:08be a good soldier, the Dallas Cowboys make it an NFC championship game,
05:11and that they re-sign him.
05:12Yeah, and I'm not –
05:13I wouldn't say that it's necessarily the right way to view it.
05:17Like, I'm not saying that that's even the right way to do it.
05:20But I think that for George, when I say he knows he can fit in here,
05:24if there's whatever consternation or whatever that exists between them, fine.
05:29But I think for Pickens, he knows I can perform.
05:31I can put up numbers here.
05:32I play well within the scheme.
05:34I've got good chemistry with the guys.
05:36And even if they get a little annoyed with me,
05:38like, I can operate here easier than I can in Pittsburgh
05:40or some of the places that are a little more strict.
05:42Yeah, I get my hands slapped every now and then,
05:43but I can put up my numbers here this year and do that.
05:46So I do think that he's ultimately here,
05:48and I would be surprised if he were to get dealt.
05:52If he were to get dealt at any point,
05:53I don't know that it would be his demand.
05:55And the Cowboys internally are saying the same thing they're saying publicly,
05:58which is he's going to be here this year.
05:59I think the only thing I could tolerate –
06:03well, you've got to have –
06:04like, if something happened –
06:11I don't want to sip too much of this Kool-Aid.
06:13I think I'd have to have it for veterans back in a deal.
06:18Instead of draft picks.
06:20I think I'd have to have it for play now, dudes,
06:24after the draft has passed.
06:26So you want to talk Crosby?
06:28You want to talk something else?
06:29You want to talk another receiver?
06:31I don't –
06:32if they traded him for a second-round pick this offseason,
06:36heading into this year,
06:37I'll lose my freaking mind.
06:41I'll blow my damn top.
06:42If they traded him for a second-round pick, I –
06:45and I'm not just talking about just because of the value.
06:47I'm talking about because of my hope for this upcoming year.
06:50Well, then what if –
06:52would you –
06:53is Crosby alone going to be good enough for you,
06:55or would you say you would take a lesser player than Crosby
06:58if it meant getting back a receiver and somebody?
07:01So that it's a receiver to replace what George was doing.
07:03I don't –
07:04if they don't have –
07:05I'm hoping you would not follow up with that.
07:05If they don't have George,
07:07I don't think the offense is good enough for it to matter
07:09if they get maxed or not.
07:10I think they need two top-flight wide receivers.
07:14I think I agree with you.
07:15So if they're going to –
07:16Good thing they got Flanoi.
07:17Go get Tyreek.
07:19Oh, there you go.
07:20There you go.
07:20Yeah, so like –
07:21but what happens first?
07:22He reports to a –
07:26whatever.
07:26Yeah.
07:27Or he follows the team back on Instagram.
07:29I don't know if he ever followed them.
07:32Is that true that he unfollowed?
07:34Well, I went and looked.
07:35He doesn't follow them currently,
07:36but he may never have.
07:37I don't think he ever did.
07:39Because he doesn't follow –
07:40if you go to his Instagram,
07:41which, by the way,
07:42bad job on –
07:44it's very difficult to find out
07:45which Instagram is actually his.
07:46Oh, his Twitter's impossible.
07:47That's on purpose.
07:48It's probably on purpose.
07:49He doesn't follow a ton of people.
07:51No, he doesn't.
07:52I don't think he ever followed the Cowboys on there.
07:53That's just the way that he does things.
07:55Okay, over at Blogging the Boys,
07:57they were talking about the Cowboys' defensive makeover,
07:59and this is a good one.
08:01I like this.
08:01This is from OCC,
08:02and yes, I know you always –
08:04yes, you know me.
08:06I know you always dislike the reference to an internet name
08:09instead of an actual name.
08:11Just don't know his name.
08:12He goes by one cool customer on there.
08:14That's how his handle is.
08:15So, OCC, as we call him,
08:17he is writing about how the Cowboys' defensive makeover
08:20is more extreme than you might even realize.
08:23And so, he went back and looked at
08:25how the team compiled the roster out of training camp last year,
08:28who were the week one starters,
08:29and various things like that.
08:30And listen to these names really quickly.
08:34Osa Odigizua, Dante Fowler, Jack Sanborn,
08:37Kenneth Murray, Damone Clark, Donovan Wilson,
08:39Kyrie Elam.
08:39That's seven players that were in your starting lineup
08:41that are not here anymore.
08:44Mozzie Smith, Solomon Thomas,
08:46Marshawn Neyland, Buddy Johnson,
08:47Wanya Thomas, CJ Goodwin,
08:49Trayvon Diggs, and then Perrion Winfrey.
08:51That's eight other people that are not on the roster anymore.
08:53Now, obviously, the Neyland one was something,
08:55a tragedy that occurred during the season.
08:56But you're talking about they've got essentially they're bringing back
09:00Sam Williams, Kenny Clark, Malik Hooker, Bland, Marquise Bell,
09:06Marist Leofaus, Shamar James, and Donovan Azaraku.
09:08And then they've got some back third string guys that are in rotation
09:12but may not be on the active roster at the end.
09:14But this turnover has been super aggressive.
09:17Typically, most teams will churn over about 30% both sides of the ball
09:22of their active roster players.
09:24Dallas' number this year is 56% on defense that they've already overturned.
09:28And that's before they go through training camp and switch things up.
09:31It's 64% on the starters list.
09:35And of the 11 starters listed, only two, Kenny Clark and Deron Bland,
09:39are likely to return as starters that are going to be in here actively
09:42playing as starters.
09:43And you've got to remember, they got Quinn and Williams midseason.
09:45That has changed.
09:46So you're adjusting it from the start of last year to now.
09:50But this is what we were talking about when they got Christian Parker,
09:54which was the idea that this was going to be so much like, hey,
10:00not here's a blank check, but basically give us the shopping list
10:03and we'll go do it for you.
10:04We'll churn this over because they've done it in the past for various guys
10:07like Dan Quinn or Mike Nolan.
10:09They've done a lot of heavy turnover.
10:11Yeah.
10:11And everything that Parker's particular about,
10:13it looks like they've gone out there and got.
10:15Yeah, I feel strongly that I will be able to get an early good read,
10:20we will, on Christian Parker's talent evaluation based upon what they have
10:25allowed him to do.
10:26Yeah.
10:27So you think Rashawn Gary can play like Green Bay couldn't?
10:32Okay.
10:33Revel, you have that belief?
10:34Okay.
10:36You want to overdraft Malachi?
10:38I'm coming across here as critical and judgmental.
10:42No.
10:42Yeah, you're doing that perspective.
10:44Malachi, you want to reach for him a little bit?
10:47Okay.
10:48Caleb Downs is Luka Doncic, Magic Johnson, LeBron reading the floor?
10:54Okay.
10:55These are Christian Parker sign-offs.
10:58Yeah, and Southeast Air scout Eric L. Inworth,
11:00when we talked to him on Saturday, you mentioned Caleb Downs.
11:02This is a really quick clip.
11:03This is him talking about their prayer for Caleb Downs to fall on draft day.
11:06I went into it going, all right, there's no way he's coming at 12,
11:10but I'm praying hard for it.
11:12But, you know, I was drooling at every pick.
11:15And kind of how those first five, six played out, I'm like, there's a chance here.
11:19And then I got to thinking, I was like, there's no way Harbaugh passes on a guy like this twice.
11:24Same thing I said.
11:25He took Kyle Hamilton.
11:26He's going to take down.
11:27Yes, exactly.
11:29And then, shoot, it got closer and closer.
11:32And I'm like, no way this is happening.
11:34And then just, you start like, I got chills.
11:36I think a lot of people did, like, even with the picks leading up to it,
11:40when we saw the Saints didn't take him to, like, it was like everybody just erupted.
11:45Like, we're going to get Caleb Downs.
11:47Amazing.
11:47It was pretty cool.
11:48That's awesome.
11:49Go watch the replay if you can.
11:51DallasCowboys.com.
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