00:00So we have Dane Brugler, Mel Kuyper, and Todd McShay all saying the same thing.
00:07That the Cowboys move up to six to draft Sonny Stiles.
00:12Now, here's the McShay compensation.
00:14You give up 12.
00:16You don't have to give up 20, Ralph.
00:18You give up 92, which is the Dorrance Armstrong third.
00:24And next year's second round pick.
00:27Okay?
00:28So 12.92 and next year's second.
00:31Here's what McShay says.
00:32Christian Parker covets athleticism and intelligence and linebacker for his scheme.
00:37And Stiles checks both.
00:39Former safety measured 6'5", 244, and still ran the fastest 40.
00:44Tied with Arvel Reese.
00:46The fastest 10-yard split.
00:48Tied with, is it, Obi-Azar?
00:51Nnamdi what?
00:52No, not Osama.
00:54Different.
00:55Yeah, Obi-Azar.
00:56There's like three different definitions I've heard.
00:58While also posting the top broad jump and setting a record for players 6'4 or taller with a 43
01:05.5 inch vert since 03.
01:08Beyond the off-the-charts testing, Stiles is widely regarded as one of the smartest players in the draft.
01:14One executive told me he'll run a company when his football days are over.
01:20He should step in and improve the football IQ of this defense and help clean up the play at the
01:25second and third levels.
01:26If there's any question about the value in trading up for an off-ball linebacker, just look at what the
01:31Eagles did, where Christian Parker was, last year.
01:35Fangio and CP moved up for Jahad Campbell, and his impact showed up immediately.
01:42To be fair, Jalen Smith owned a company after his playing career was over, too.
01:46Did he own it, or was he supposed to?
01:48Did we check that out?
01:49I'll see.
01:49Clear eye view.
01:49Clear eye.
01:50Clear eye.
01:51Whatever it is.
01:51Yeah.
01:53Clear eye view.
01:53It wasn't so much.
01:54He could see it clearly.
01:55He just couldn't always read and react to it.
01:58Yeah, the eyeglass company.
02:00So, number 12, their third-round pick, and then a two for next year.
02:06Yes.
02:10Yeah, I mean, look, my main goal is to go with two firsts in this one, and then that would
02:14allow me to do that.
02:15You still only get two picks in the top, now 100, which kind of stinks.
02:20Yeah, I think we talked into that.
02:22But Dane Brugler was asked on All-City, are you hearing or thinking that the Cowboys move up for Styles?
02:31I think a little bit of both, I guess.
02:33I mean, it's something that when you look at, because as much as mock drafts get mocked, this is exactly
02:40what NFL teams are doing right now, right?
02:42They are looking at all the scenarios.
02:44They are going through the possibilities.
02:46It makes sense to you.
02:48I think a little bit of both, I guess.
02:51I mean, it's something that when you look at, because as much as mock drafts get mocked, this is exactly
02:58what NFL teams are doing right now, right?
03:00They are looking at all the scenarios.
03:01They are going through the possibilities and saying, okay, well, this happens, this happens.
03:06And something that is talked about is who's the aggressive team this year?
03:11Who's going to go up into the top 10 in a somewhat lighter class?
03:17Like, we can say that, right?
03:18Not just the quarterbacks, but overall, it's a lighter top 10 than relative to other years.
03:23But who could be that aggressive team?
03:25And the Cowboys make sense, not only because they have the draft capital to do it, but this is a
03:30win-now window.
03:31And we know they need to get better on defense.
03:33And this is a, in terms of the top tier of prospects in this draft, there is a chance, probably
03:40a likely chance, they get wiped out of those guys.
03:44And so it just comes down to where do the Cowboys feel at number 12?
03:47If they get wiped out of, you know, Reuben Bain and the three Ohio State defenders and Mansoor Delane, what
03:55is that plan B?
03:56Do they have somebody ready to go, whether that's Dylan Thienemann from Oregon, Akeem Mezador, Keldrick Falk, whoever that is,
04:04do they feel good enough about that player at 12?
04:07Or do they feel the need to, hey, let's go get aggressive, go get our guy?
04:12And I think Sonny Stiles makes sense as a guy to go get, especially for this team.
04:16When you think about the Christian Parker defense, you think about if they played a game tomorrow, who's wearing the
04:21green dot?
04:23So, in watching, in being a YouTube, I'm not a Twitter scout, I'm a YouTube scout.
04:29Ten minutes, and I make my decision in ten minutes, giving myself an out in case I'm wrong.
04:35I talked about it yesterday, and I think this is why Broadus is going to love 720, that I was
04:40not blown away by, I was hoping for more.
04:44After reading all the things that McShay recapped from the Combine, I was looking for some LeVar Arrington, Jadavion Clowney
04:52-type explosive crazy college highlights.
04:55The one area in which I'll give, and I'll say, okay, you want to move up for him, go ahead
04:59and do it,
04:59is if you can tell me that he will coordinate and run everything like Caleb Downs is supposed to do.
05:05And McShay did include in that the brainpower, the leadership, all of that is there for Stiles, which I love.
05:13Checks all those boxes, and is a guy who's got, you know, the ridiculous athleticism, fresh at the position,
05:20a lot of it's projection that he's going to continue to grow as a player.
05:24But, I mean, it's something where the other, like, I think push or focus being on him is also about
05:34what's behind him at that position,
05:36which is, I think most NFL teams would say, not another first-round linebacker.
05:43I don't think anybody else would have anybody other than Stiles.
05:46Maybe there's a couple that would say, oh, we've got, you know, C.J. Allen in the first round.
05:50I would, I've got C.J. Allen in the first round.
05:52I like him like that.
05:53But I don't know that teams would say there's definitely a first-round linebacker outside of Sonny Stiles.
06:01Charles Robinson.
06:01Listen, give us a recap of who he is.
06:05Charles is a, I'm trying to think of, like, the best term for him.
06:08He's sort of like an investigative journalist for the NFL.
06:12Not on the, who's our ESPN, Don Van Atta.
06:15Not on the Don Van Atta level.
06:17But definitely is more about, let me write the story of the investigation of how something came to be and
06:25tell that story.
06:26So, really well connected, really, really great storyteller and somebody who I think is, it's always important to listen to
06:32some of the things that he says.
06:33In regards to the Cowboys as well.
06:35In regards to everybody, but yeah, definitely the Cowboys too.
06:37He's been on top of some Cowboy stuff.
06:39So, everyone this week is saying, they're moving up, move up, move up, Charles Robinson, pump the brakes.
06:48Rob, are you buying the boys going from 12 to 6?
06:51No, I'm not.
06:52And I'm glad you checked in with Dallas because when I was doing the all-juice team stuff, I talked
06:55to someone in Dallas and I did not sense.
06:59Like, I felt like those two first-round picks, they feel like they can get contributing players.
07:06Like, now they feel contributing players.
07:08They feel good about getting players who might not be instantaneous starters, but can come in immediately and contribute to
07:16the 20-26 team.
07:17And that's what they need.
07:18They need more players, particularly defensively.
07:21So, there is Charles pumping the brakes on the Inside Coverage podcast.
07:26Choppy, I'm going to ask you to pick who you want to believe.
07:32And Bobby, I'm going to ask you who you do believe.
07:37Everyone's saying, move up.
07:40Charles Robinson's saying, I don't think it's happening.
07:42Choppy, you start off.
07:43Oh, I want to believe Charles Robinson.
07:47Because I want to go further than that.
07:48I want to trade down.
07:50Like, if I could, they've got three top 100 picks.
07:53If I could walk away with five top 100 picks, you know, I'm fine with that.
07:58You know, if the Jets are willing to come up from 16, because they've got multiple firsts and they've got
08:03some capital, let's go.
08:05You know, if Detroit at 17 is willing to come on up, let's go to Minnesota.
08:10If any of these teams wants to come on up, I'm open for business here.
08:14And then at 20, you know, whether you want to move up, whether you want to move back for 20
08:20or not, I mean, you don't have to.
08:22I would like to move up, especially if the board falls the way that they're saying.
08:26If the lane's gone and, you know, styles and downs and all these guys are gone, you know, moving down
08:32probably isn't the worst idea.
08:34It's probably not the worst idea anyway.
08:36Who do you believe, Bob?
08:42Um, Charles, I guess.
08:44Uh, so here's the thing.
08:46I was listening to Gbag yesterday.
08:48They were talking about trade-up scenarios.
08:50And yeah, they were.
08:51Eric was, Eric was being a little conspiracy minded.
08:56Maybe one would say Eric, Eric of all people, Eric may be buying into some conspiracies, but it doesn't, it's,
09:02it's not the most absurd thing, which Eric goes.
09:04He's like, I think we're getting ball sacked here.
09:07He says, I think if you look at it, he's like, think about this.
09:09He's like, we're eight days out and everybody just knows exactly what they're going to do.
09:13Yeah.
09:13He's like, why does everybody in the world seem to know what they're going to do eight days out?
09:17That feels like not legitimate to me.
09:19So he's like, I don't know.
09:20He's like, my antennas are just up.
09:22Here's the thing.
09:23I think they're going to enter the draft and just say, we're just going to watch.
09:26We're going to watch.
09:27Yeah, they'll wait for a phone.
09:28And we'll, no, I don't even think that.
09:29I think they're going to watch and they're going to see how stuff goes and they'll go, we'll react to
09:32whatever's ahead of us.
09:33Well, you can't wait and watch for Reese or Bailey.
09:35No, but here's, here's what I think you're watching for.
09:38I just, so I don't think Reese or Bailey, I don't think they go up to three.
09:40I just don't think they have the capital for it, but let's say, let's say, they just don't want to
09:45spend it.
09:46No, they don't.
09:47They don't really have the capital next year.
09:48I mean, you just, you, yeah, you would have to sacrifice everything you have on day one and more into
09:54that.
09:54They just, they don't have resources to do that.
09:56Um, I mean, but to Josh's point, they do, but they don't, they do in the sense that Mike Dick
10:01had their entire draft to trade for Ricky Williams and he did,
10:04but no reasonable human being would do it.
10:06These are the, if the, what if this is the top 10?
10:09Mike had tea time.
10:10He's like, I'm not doing this.
10:11I don't think this is absurd.
10:13The Raiders take Mendoza.
10:14The Jets take Arvel Reese, which yesterday they canceled their 30 visit with David Bailey.
10:20Apparently Arizona takes David Bailey.
10:23Titans then take Jeremiah Love who they've been connected to.
10:26The Giants are a big pivot point in there.
10:28The Giants at five.
10:29What if they take Francis Malino?
10:31They do need offensive line.
10:32There are people who think the Giants could be in there.
10:34Okay.
10:35Well, Cleveland has been talked about as being really big on Spencer Fano.
10:38Okay.
10:38Now we're at Washington.
10:39They would take Carnell Tate in that instance.
10:41If Love's off the board, they would take Tate.
10:44Okay.
10:44Well, you got New Orleans who wants a pass rusher Bain.
10:47And then you've got Kansas city.
10:49Who's been on Jordan Tyson.
10:50Now you get to Cincinnati and Miami ahead of you and delaying styles and downs are still
10:55on the board.
10:56Three players with two picks to go.
10:58I don't think it's, I don't know that it's definitely, it plays out that way, but I don't
11:03think that's ridiculous to think it could happen that way.
11:06And if it happens that way, Dallas would watch the board and go, we're not moving.
11:09Why would we sacrifice that 20th pick knowing one of those three, you said Bain, delaying
11:15downs, delaying styles, downs could all like, I think, I don't think it's impossible to
11:20think that as pick 10 rolls around and you're two out, that those three are there.
11:24And I think those are the three that they would really be focusing on.
11:28That's your dream scenario.
11:29Dream scenario.
11:30And you know, and that way, I mean, you don't have to, obviously at that point, you know,
11:35trading down is like, all right, it wouldn't have to do that.
11:37But as of today, I think they end up with Caleb downs.
11:41As of what?
11:42As of today, I think they end up with Caleb downs.
11:45You know what?
11:45Just don't.
11:47Stop.
11:48I don't want to hear it.
11:49I don't want to hear it.
11:50As long as it's not that Sonny Stiles.
11:51Am I right, Brian?
11:52I don't want to hear it.
11:54I don't want to get excited.
11:56I don't want to hear it.
11:58Inside the Star.
11:58Inside the Star.
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