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Shan, RJ, and Bobby went Inside The Star to break down the latest Cowboys mock drafts. They evaluated potential trade-ups and assessed top prospects like Arvell Reese and David Bailey. They also discussed how team needs and recent player visits could impact the Cowboys decisions, and more.
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00:00Todd McShay had brought this up on his podcast, right?
00:05Did you guys discuss this?
00:07We did.
00:07McShay brought it up in very much a kind of like a theoretical,
00:12like this would make some sense to me kind of way,
00:14which you never know.
00:15All right, is that him trying to tip you off?
00:17Or is he just, he could legitimately just be talking.
00:20It just kind of depends.
00:21But he had brought it up.
00:23And then you started seeing Dallas visited,
00:27did 30 visits with Arvel Reese and David Bailey,
00:31which those guys are not going to be there when they pick.
00:33And so that made some people just kind of look up and go,
00:36okay, why are you talking to them?
00:38Unless you're trying to figure out if you want to go, go get them.
00:40Yeah.
00:41And so it's, it's been on the radar a little bit.
00:43And then, and that would be a Bobby Bell dream.
00:45Of course he is in love with Bailey.
00:46And then Bruce Feldman from the athletic came out with his mock draft.
00:50Give us the background of Bruce Feldman.
00:51So Bruce Feldman is the guy who does the fantasy freaks list every year,
00:55or does like the top 30 biggest freaks in college football or whatever,
01:00every year for the athletic.
01:01And he's always really plugged in with all the different college programs.
01:04So even though he covers college football and doesn't really cover the NFL
01:07or the NFL draft, a lot of,
01:09he's got a lot of really good NFL relationships because people want to know,
01:12Hey, what did you hear about this program?
01:14What did you hear about this guy?
01:15Different things like that.
01:16So he,
01:17his mock draft is always one that I like to look at and see what is he
01:20potentially heard buzzing out there.
01:23Let me take you through it.
01:24And I read,
01:25I spent a good amount of time reading about 70% of these write-ups because of
01:29what Bruce respected dude,
01:30as Bobby just said,
01:31is hearing from his college connections.
01:33Fernando at one,
01:35uh,
01:36Reese number two to the jets.
01:38And man,
01:39some of the questions I've heard about Arvel Reese are not in this as people
01:44are talking about the intelligence,
01:46the versatility and him being an absolute alien.
01:49And if it,
01:50if there was,
01:52if it was Reese or Bailey,
01:54like if you got the tube,
01:56who would you take?
01:58Um,
02:02I would probably want Bailey.
02:05They,
02:05I think they would take Reese.
02:07Like 10 NFL evaluators.
02:10Every majority would take Reese.
02:11Most people think Reese is going above Bailey,
02:14but there's been a little chatter in the last two days.
02:17I think Daniel Jeremiah contributed to this,
02:19that he said there are more people think of the jets could take David Bailey.
02:23Oh,
02:24at number three,
02:25Bruce Feldman's mock draft,
02:27David Bailey in a trade with the Arizona Cardinals.
02:31Now I have been along with RJ choppy against moving up.
02:36If this is the cost though,
02:38I'm in,
02:39I don't know.
02:40And Bobby,
02:40I know you did a,
02:41uh,
02:41tremendous,
02:42uh,
02:43well,
02:43it was thorough.
02:43I don't know where there's,
02:44it was tremendous.
02:45It was the best trade chart.
02:47A lot of words,
02:47a lot of words,
02:48a tremendous trade chart,
02:49basically saying you're going to overpay.
02:52I,
02:53this doesn't seem like this could get you there.
02:55The projected trade is the Cowboys go to three.
02:59Arizona gets 12 and round three.
03:04See,
03:05this is where he's a college football,
03:07Yeah,
03:08that's cause I was like,
03:09he may have heard though,
03:10that he may have heard Dallas is interested in going up and he just doesn't
03:13understand what the compensation is supposed to look like.
03:15Right.
03:15Because there's 12,
03:16they're at 12 right now.
03:17One 32 is the value of the third round pick.
03:21That does not get you equal to the points to move up to nine at Kansas city.
03:26Yeah.
03:27Uh,
03:27because like,
03:27if you just like,
03:28you said just round three round,
03:30the Osa pick.
03:31Yeah.
03:31Which the Osa pick in 12 to three.
03:34Cause I mean,
03:34and I still get to have 20.
03:36I'm looking at the,
03:37I'm looking at a,
03:38I was looking at a,
03:38I was looking at a,
03:39I was looking at a,
03:39I was looking at a,
03:40I was looking at a,
03:41I was looking at a,
03:44to go for four to their third and a fourth.
03:48Now,
03:48how do I throw all that into the Bobby trade machine chart that you tweeted out and did yesterday on
03:54the show where,
03:55where it's like,
03:55okay,
03:56we don't,
03:56we don't have to necessarily get or give up what we think we should.
04:00Yeah.
04:00So basically what it is.
04:02And I asked a couple of different people,
04:05just like when I started putting it together,
04:07I was like,
04:07Hey,
04:08just ask some people to like,
04:09is this,
04:10am I seeing this right?
04:11Is this like just silly data?
04:13Does this lock in general,
04:14which scene they're like,
04:15no,
04:15the generally you're going to like,
04:16it plays out that way,
04:17which is the trade value chart is the chart.
04:20It's,
04:20it's generally what teams go by,
04:22but usually if you're going up that high,
04:25even if you're just going a few spots,
04:26but you're going up to one of the premium picks,
04:28you are paying what ultimately ends up being a tax.
04:31So you end up paying maybe like 10% juice on it.
04:35It's not an equal swap.
04:36So for instance,
04:37paying less,
04:37you're paying more right on the,
04:39on the chart,
04:39Arizona's pick is worth 2,200.
04:41Dallas is worth 1,200.
04:44So in theory,
04:45you'd probably have to come up with 2,400,
04:482,500,
04:49something like that.
04:50Yeah.
04:50To,
04:50to really like it.
04:51And so you got to pay over what the pick is worth.
04:53So let's assume Feldman's way off on the compensation.
04:56What about the thought?
04:57And is there any smoke to it?
05:00Arizona really needs O-line help,
05:02but this spot seems too high for what is available in this draft.
05:05So training back is the cards best move.
05:08The Cowboys did not get Max Crosby and still could use more juice attacking
05:12offenses.
05:13They would love for Reese to fall here,
05:16but Bailey is another true difference maker in a draft that is not all that
05:20deep with them.
05:21Big 12 assistant on Bobby's boy.
05:24Quote,
05:24he has this ability to switch gears in an instant.
05:27He'll get off the ball really quick,
05:28but then shut it down and make a move as fast as he got off the ball.
05:31That's why it's such a problem for tackles in space or when he's one-on-one
05:34with the guard,
05:35because they can't stop and go like he can and still have power.
05:39I thought that was his superpower.
05:41He also has this ability to bend and be strong and not get pushed by the
05:45pocket.
05:45He's just a different dude.
05:47The former Stanford player Bailey,
05:50because of course no one just goes to the school and stays there is not as
05:53versatile as Reese,
05:54but he's a little bigger and longer at six,
05:57four to 51,
05:5833 and three quarter inch arms.
06:00He's almost as fast.
06:02He ran a four or five for 40 vertical jumped 35 inches.
06:05He was vertically unblockable virtually.
06:08No,
06:09he says vertically unblockable last season for Texas tech.
06:15And then it's more right up on him.
06:17So there it is.
06:19Another mocker putting the Cowboys up there at three for an edge.
06:24I think they're,
06:25they are trying to figure out if they can go up.
06:27So I think what they're looking at is they've,
06:29they've looked at this and said,
06:30okay,
06:31this is a draft where we like a few defensive players.
06:34And initially when a couple of months ago,
06:37the process started,
06:38I don't know about the Cowboys,
06:39but I think people analyzing it in December,
06:41we're looking at this and going,
06:42okay,
06:43like Jordan Tyson's a really good receiver at Arizona state.
06:45Makai lemon's a really good receiver.
06:47You got Cardinal Tate.
06:48There's Jeremiah love,
06:49you know,
06:50you've got Fernando Mendoza.
06:51Surely these tackles will go in the top.
06:53And so you started thinking like defense will get pushed down the board to
06:56you a little bit.
06:56And the more it's kind of settling in,
06:58it's like the value is a lot of these defensive players.
07:02And there's not as many of them at the top of the board that are really
07:05good.
07:05And so a lot of teams are feeling like,
07:07all right,
07:07well,
07:07let's get this guy now.
07:08And so if you like monster Delaney,
07:11if you like sunny styles,
07:12if you like Caleb downs,
07:13if you like David Bailey,
07:14like those guys are probably not sliding.
07:16So I think Dallas is trying to figure out us sitting at 12.
07:19What does it cost us to just guarantee that we can get one of those guys?
07:23We really like man choppy.
07:26The other day when Bobby asked what's so cowboy,
07:30it's so cowboy to go in.
07:32I understand the thought process there.
07:34If you don't think there's enough depth later on,
07:37but you have so many holes defensively.
07:39We got 12 and 20,
07:41which we're like,
07:41all right,
07:42let's turn that into four picks.
07:43Let's turn that into three picks.
07:45No,
07:45the Cowboys go,
07:46let's make it go poof and go,
07:48go away and go to one pick.
07:49Because look,
07:51I do believe that one of the,
07:52one of the things that the Cowboys and Cowboys fans in general,
07:57they fall in love with names,
08:01stars.
08:02I do too.
08:03Yeah.
08:03Look,
08:04a lot of people do.
08:04Rightfully so.
08:05Names are names for a reason.
08:06I get it.
08:07A lot of people do,
08:09but like time and time,
08:10who are the stars on Seattle?
08:13Right.
08:14I mean,
08:15Jackson Smith and Jigbo,
08:16but yeah.
08:16Okay.
08:17Yeah.
08:17But I mean,
08:17he's not a household name in the sense that,
08:20yeah.
08:20I mean,
08:21for crying out loud,
08:21Michael Gallup has probably a higher Q rating than him.
08:24More well known than him because he played for the Cowboys.
08:27Yeah.
08:28You know what I mean?
08:28Like Jackson,
08:30JSN is.
08:31The Patriots don't have a bunch of stars outside of May.
08:34You know,
08:35they're obsessed with names.
08:36They think,
08:36hey,
08:36we got,
08:38we got Arvel Reese in the draft.
08:40That's better than getting,
08:43you know,
08:44but Jackson Smith and Jigbo was a name in the draft.
08:47He's not a name in Seattle.
08:48He was a name.
08:49So,
08:50I mean,
08:50those are,
08:50you are talking about guys like they fell in love for a reason.
08:53Those were players who were a lot of no names.
08:55Yeah.
08:55But also more of a sure thing would be their justification.
08:58I get it.
08:58Yeah.
08:59We can get the extra dart,
09:01but the board,
09:02our dart board has shrunk as we go down in talent.
09:06For sure.
09:07Right?
09:07For sure.
09:08Such as an automatic assumption it's going to hit.
09:10You know,
09:10if you tell me that,
09:12you know,
09:12and you can't tell me this,
09:14right?
09:14Because it is,
09:14it is,
09:15it is a crap shoot.
09:15But if you tell me that at 12 and a 20,
09:18I can get an eight out of 10 and a set at a six out of 10 versus getting a
09:2210 out of 10 at two,
09:23I'm going to take the two other players.
09:25I think their concern is,
09:26you can't guarantee me that,
09:27but you also can't guarantee me that the player at the top is going to be a
09:2910 out of 10.
09:30I think their concern is they get a six out of 10 at 20 and they get a six
09:33and a half out of 10 out of 12.
09:35If they sit there and,
09:36and,
09:36and still like,
09:37and that if they would have just gone up to like nine,
09:39maybe then they could have gotten one of the guys they think is an eight.
09:43I think,
09:43I think that's how they would have to,
09:44but going up to nine is not going to cost you 20.
09:47No,
09:47it's not.
09:48No,
09:48it's not.
09:49It's,
09:49but like,
09:49yeah,
09:50like to me,
09:50like they need to be focusing on depth.
09:53Not,
09:53not,
09:53not backups.
09:54Like having 11 good starters on defense as opposed to going up and get one
09:59good guy.
09:59That's just for me.
10:01Jeremiah loved the Titans at four.
10:02According to Bruce Feldman,
10:04athletic,
10:04sunny styles of the giants at five,
10:06the Browns go tackle Ruben Bain to the commanders at seven.
10:11I will say Brada said yesterday,
10:13he thinks Bain is better than Bailey.
10:16Which I had not.
10:17I knew he loved band.
10:18I didn't realize he had him above Bailey.
10:19A big 10 assistant coach said all those people who talk about how short Bain's
10:23arms are,
10:25are idiots.
10:26It's just asinine conversation that people are having.
10:29Watch his film.
10:30He's going to be a dude.
10:30He's going to be an elite pass rusher.
10:32Gets off the ball.
10:33He has elite power.
10:34You turn speed into power.
10:35Arm length doesn't matter.
10:36He'll neutralize their length.
10:38He's elite,
10:39man.
10:39Did you watch this pro day?
10:41And he fell in love with that,
10:42that drill that went viral as well.
10:45That,
10:45uh,
10:45Arvo Reese did not get as low on.
10:48Uh,
10:49Carnell Tate to the Saints at eight.
10:52Spencer Fano to the Chiefs at nine.
10:55Caleb Downs to Cincinnati at 10.
10:58Miami,
10:59Mansoor,
11:00the lane.
11:01When we were hoping that they would draft wide receiver.
11:03The lane corner at 11.
11:06Arizona Freeling at 12.
11:10Rams,
11:10Makai Lemon,
11:11uh,
11:1314.
11:13Jermaud McCoy to the Baltimore Ravens.
11:17Sadiq,
11:18tight end to Tampa at 15.
11:19Jets,
11:20Jordan Tyson,
11:21wide out Arizona State.
11:22Lions,
11:23Proctor,
11:24Bama,
11:24tackle.
11:2518.
11:26Vikings with Thinaman.
11:28Panthers,
11:29back-to-back safeties.
11:30McNeil Warren to Carolina.
11:31And then at number 20.
11:34The corner.
11:36Did we,
11:36did we address linebacker?
11:38I mean,
11:39we kept that pick for a reason.
11:41We did not.
11:42Oh,
11:43we get a receiver.
11:45Denzel Boston.
11:48Wow.
11:49From Washington.
11:50Bobby's face is not lighting up.
11:53Dallas has an interesting choice here between the six,
11:55four 212 pound Boston and Indiana's Omar Cooper jr.
12:01Who is smaller,
12:02but came up big for the national champions in 2025.
12:06Boston caught,
12:07and we have not seen Denzel Boston put here very often.
12:10Boston caught 125 passes,
12:1220 touchdowns over the past two seasons.
12:14Washington coaches who were around Tetaroa McMillan when they were at
12:19Arizona say the Panthers first round is more fluid,
12:22has better body control,
12:23but Boston is faster and also has strong hands and is very competitive,
12:27much like McMillan.
12:29One big plus with Boston.
12:30He's physical and smart and was a dynamite special teams player.
12:34One coach said,
12:35quote,
12:35he will be a pro bowl gunner,
12:37vertical threat,
12:38big play guy,
12:39fast,
12:39probably high four,
12:40four,
12:41not sudden at the top of breaks,
12:42little stiff.
12:43So he's limited route wise because of that.
12:46He does not separate enough.
12:47Bobby,
12:48what have been your thoughts on Denzel Boston?
12:50I mean,
12:50he's not even been on the radar for me in terms of thinking about in the
12:54context of Dallas.
12:55Like I watched him and I've done like the study on him.
12:57I graded him and everything,
12:58but he's not anybody that I've thought about like,
13:00how would he fit in Dallas?
13:01Cause I just don't think there's any way they take it.
13:02He didn't like the guy he reminded me of when I was watching was Mike
13:05Williams,
13:05the old Clemson receiver who went to the chargers,
13:07which is fine,
13:09but you got a lot of issues and you,
13:11you've got your receivers and you're,
13:13you're in a good position.
13:14If they draft,
13:15if they draft a receiver,
13:17how far do we have to go into the pickings is getting dealt discussion?
13:21If they draft a receiver in the first round,
13:23they need to move him.
13:24Yeah,
13:24I agree.
13:25If they can,
13:26or,
13:26or they just,
13:27they end up presenting the tag,
13:28which people would hate,
13:28but you might have to do that.
13:31cause I mean,
13:31look at it to me,
13:32if they're going to take a receiver,
13:33I would want it to be a CD type situation where a guy just falls in their lap.
13:38You know,
13:39and Tate,
13:39Tate would be that guy.
13:41I've seen Boston.
13:42I haven't seen,
13:43but I don't know.
13:44I haven't been paying attention to Boston.
13:45Boston's supposed to be a first rounder.
13:47Oh yeah.
13:47Yeah.
13:48Yeah.
13:48But I wasn't sure if I've seen him.
13:49I don't remember seeing any mocks where he's,
13:51you know,
13:52ahead of 12.
13:53He's taken in the top 12.
13:55Bobby,
13:55who is ending up being your most reasonable pick at 20 in your mind?
14:00Colton hood,
14:01hood,
14:01cornerback Tennessee.
14:03That's the one.
14:03And a lot of the,
14:04a lot of these mocks.
14:06And again,
14:06we're going to get surprises,
14:07but a lot of these mocks have him kind of a little bit lower in the first
14:12round than right there at 20.
14:13I'm seeing like 25,
14:1629,
14:1630,
14:1731,
14:1732.
14:18It just,
14:20but do you,
14:21do you see a lot of corners going between 20 and 25 when hood goes hoods?
14:26Probably like,
14:26like,
14:27yeah,
14:27sliding down to 25.
14:28But I think that's because a lot of people may see mess a door.
14:31You see how you see some edges,
14:33maybe,
14:33maybe some receivers,
14:34maybe some people addressed corner with Dallas's 12th pick,
14:38or maybe there's this,
14:39they think that there's a bigger pressing need or whatever else there is.
14:42Then that may be why they let him slide past there.
14:44But generally around 20 is where Colton hood's thought of as like being,
14:48he'll probably be the best corner on the board.
14:49How have the Tolo's responded to all this recent talk of moving up to as far as
14:53three?
14:54Some,
14:54some really love it.
14:55Some really want to say they,
14:56they need to go on up and get a player.
14:58And then others are like,
14:59no,
14:59it's not the smart thing to do.
15:00It's there's not really one,
15:02at least,
15:03I mean,
15:03unless you do a poll,
15:04you obviously do a poll,
15:05you get a more accurate number,
15:06but I didn't,
15:06I haven't noticed a hard line stand.
15:08No,
15:08I mean,
15:08I think,
15:08I think everybody right now is right now.
15:12They're of the opinion that it feels like,
15:14I think people are like,
15:15get me a player.
15:16If you tell me,
15:17I'm not going to get a player at 12 because I'm waiting,
15:19then okay,
15:20do it.
15:21So I think there's kind of just this nervous energy,
15:22but the big contingent that exists right now,
15:26and I'm going to blame Brian brought us for this.
15:28The big contingent that exists right now is saying,
15:31just sit there and take McCoy,
15:33Jermod McCoy,
15:34the corner from Tennessee.
15:35And I love that y'all love him.
15:37And I love that Brian loves him.
15:38And I think Brian is,
15:39they're not taking him at 12.
15:41There's not doing it.
15:43And so like,
15:43I mean,
15:43that's,
15:44that's not,
15:45that's not something like,
15:46even like you can sit there and wait,
15:48but if McCoy's there and you've lost the others,
15:50it's not like,
15:50well,
15:51we'll just take McCoy.
15:51No,
15:51they'll just take somebody who's not McCoy and then you'll be mad.
15:53They're not going to draft McCoy.
15:54I don't think they'll pick McCoy at 12.
15:56No,
15:56they can pick him at,
15:58first keeps putting them there.
16:00Well,
16:00then maybe that changes things,
16:01but I think like,
16:02yeah,
16:02if they had a second round pick and he fell to the second round,
16:05some miracle way,
16:06like maybe they take him there,
16:06but I don't think they want to risk any of their first round capital on it.
16:11877-881-1053 commercial free in the expressway.
16:15Pay attention when Bobby says things like,
16:17I'll tell you this.
16:18If McCoy falls to 20 and they say,
16:20no,
16:20that's a,
16:21that's a,
16:22that's a mistake.
16:23That's a bad,
16:23it's bad risk management.
16:24What about if he falls to 21 and they say,
16:26no,
16:26and 22 says,
16:27no,
16:27eight picks later,
16:28you're going to make that,
16:29that harsh of a judgment.
16:30It's bad.
16:31Eight picks.
16:32I mean,
16:32this is a guy that is the best corner in the draft and it's not even close.
16:36Then you should draft him at 12.
16:37I agree.
16:38I,
16:38I'm fine with,
16:39I'm fine with taking them at 12.
16:41Uh,
16:41if they're not,
16:42if they're not comfortable with it,
16:43I get it,
16:44you know,
16:45but if you're at 20 and everybody says arbitrarily,
16:49well,
16:49you know,
16:49you don't get a first round pick at 20.
16:52Um,
16:53then you,
16:54then you have to take him.
16:54It's bad risk management.
16:56It's just,
16:56just bad.
16:56Why?
16:56You're not even factoring in all the negatives that have him dropped down in all the questions.
17:01It's 2026.
17:02I thought,
17:03you said as soon as you heard.
17:05Oh,
17:05really?
17:06Yeah.
17:07What?
17:07Who said?
17:08I'm just kidding.
17:08Just kidding.
17:09They're not going to take him.
17:10I don't think,
17:11you know,
17:12it's just,
17:13it's 2026,
17:14man.
17:14Like if you,
17:15I'm not worried about it.
17:16What is that supposed to mean?
17:17Guys recover from ACLs all the time.
17:19Wow.
17:20All right.
17:20So there's RJ choppy.
17:22Remember there was a time Will Johnson at Michigan was going to go top five and then he fell to
17:2550 last year because of a knee injury.
17:28Look,
17:28I understand that that teams get you a panic.
17:31I get it.
17:33You know,
17:33look at the Ravens.
17:35Huh?
17:36Look at the Ravens panicking over a knee.
17:38Yeah.
17:39And,
17:39and sure,
17:41but he's also a 30 year old.
17:44Okay.
17:44I mean,
17:45Trayvon Diggs is how old?
17:46He's not 30.
17:47He's my,
17:48Trayvon was a one trick pony anyway.
17:50Oh my.
17:51He was a jumper route.
17:53He's 27 years old and people think he's finished.
17:56He was never good.
17:57There's an argument to be made that the knee.
17:59Yeah,
17:59he's 30,
18:00but they know what Crosby is.
18:01McCoy is a projection.
18:02Sure it is.
18:03Of course it is.
18:04Of course it is.
18:05I,
18:05you know,
18:06if you're worried about a knee,
18:07I,
18:08I understand.
18:08I understand.
18:09I understand the worry.
18:10I think I understand the word.
18:11I think McCoy will go in the second round.
18:14I don't think McCoy goes in the first.
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