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Shan, RJ, and Bobby went Inside the Star and discussed the Cowboys missing out on Maxx Crosby after the Ravens traded two first-round picks for the star pass rusher. Bobby also explained the Cowboys’ second-round tender on Brandon Aubrey and more.
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00:00The Max Crosby dream is dead.
00:03If it's not Trey Hendrickson, who else could it be?
00:06And Brandon Aubrey gets hit with the tender.
00:10Good morning, Metroplex.
00:11We are off and rolling here on Sean and RJ.
00:13It's NFL Free Agency Week.
00:15No naps for me.
00:17So 11 a.m. today, right?
00:19Like, we'll start getting the deals that are done.
00:22Then they'll officially be announced on Wednesday.
00:24But 11 a.m. today to check all the fan timelines.
00:28And, of course, live during the K&C Masterpiece.
00:3111 a.m. Central, you'll start seeing some stuff break where it's like,
00:34this is miraculous.
00:35It only took them one minute to negotiate when they were allowed to legally tamper.
00:39How are they able to get those terms done so quickly?
00:41So you'll get those negotiations.
00:43And then, yeah, it's Wednesday at 3 p.m. Central.
00:46Everything starts becoming official.
00:47Crosby gone for two firsts in Baltimore.
00:49The Cowboys apparently offered 12.
00:51Next year, second.
00:52And a player, we think that player, is Osa Odigizua.
00:56They placed the second-round $5.76 million tender on Brandon Aubrey.
01:03Aubrey now can sign an offer sheet with another team that the Cowboys would have a right to match.
01:11If they don't, they would get a second-round pick back.
01:15Just as a reminder, where things stood in terms of the negotiation, Todd Archer.
01:19Sources said the Cowboys offer was close to $7 million on average.
01:24Harrison Butker leads the league at around 5.5.
01:28And Todd France, Aubrey's agent, asked for an offer closer to $10 million a year.
01:35So right now, the tender that he would play on as it stands would make him the third-highest-paid
01:41kicker in the league.
01:43Butker, 6.4.
01:45And that full Jake Elliott in Philadelphia at 6.
01:49I don't know.
01:50If I'm Todd France, if I'm Aubrey, I just go ahead and sign the tender.
01:55And I just play on that.
01:57Because what they're going to want to do, they've got, Dallas has all the leverage right now.
02:01Like, they can say, you've got to play on this.
02:03Okay?
02:03So you've got to play for 5.7.
02:05You can ask for 10 to 12 all you want or whatever else you'd be asking for.
02:09You've got to play on this.
02:10Well, why would I do what you said instead of call everyone around the league and get my 8, 10,
02:15or according to Adam Schefter, maybe even 12?
02:18Because I think they would say, we'd love to pay you $8 million.
02:21But we don't want to pay you $8 million and give a second-round pickup.
02:24You're not worth that.
02:25Right.
02:25So if he doesn't sign the tender, what happens?
02:28He would be just basically like, it'd be like not signing the tag.
02:32You'd be sitting, they've got your rights.
02:34You're controlled.
02:34You can't just not sign and go somewhere else.
02:36They would just, he'd be holding out, essentially.
02:39But he's tagged.
02:40It's like, I mean, he's got the tender on him now.
02:42That second-round tender, that's locked in.
02:45He's got to play for at least that deal.
02:47Or else he doesn't play anywhere.
02:49And so to me, it's like, sign the tender, write it out another year, hit free agency, create some sort
02:54of leverage.
02:55Other than signing in for five years, potentially, at a rate that you don't think you deserve.
02:59You know, the only other problem with that is he's 30.
03:04And we know how finicky things are with closers and kickers.
03:08And if he has a beginning or middle, like he had the end of last year, all of a sudden,
03:17like the Brandon Aubrey super, I mean, it's a high damn standard to live up to.
03:21Now, he's really, really good, so I would bet on him, you know, doing it.
03:25But your market gets dinged a little.
03:28There's a little bit of doubt.
03:29You start missing some of those 54-yarders that everyone thinks you're automatic for.
03:34And all of a sudden, the value drops.
03:36One little tweak of a hamstring.
03:39One little anything, right?
03:40It could just...
03:41Tweak of a mind.
03:42Yeah.
03:42Oh, for sure.
03:43Mental.
03:44Yeah, that's what did Dan Bailey in.
03:46Dan Bailey just mentally broke.
03:48And, I mean, similar, Brett Maher misses a kick, and then it's like, oh, all of a sudden he can't
03:53make extra points in a playoff game, and it's just it's over.
03:55You get one major spot that you're in, and, you know, laces in, right?
04:02You know, you're late?
04:02No, I mean, like, that's...
04:03They'll tell you the laces are a big part of it.
04:06Thanks, Marino.
04:06And you get the laces in the wrong spot.
04:08I mean, is that your fault?
04:10Right.
04:11You know, but, you know, the way the numbers work...
04:13All the noise that comes with it, the noise that comes with it, it is your fault.
04:16And, you know, NFL owners aren't using nuance when it comes to contracts.
04:20You know, they're going to try to get the best deal they possibly can.
04:22Yeah, but, I mean, it's also...
04:24The flip side of that is true, too, which is...
04:27Oh, yeah, he starts making 68 yarders and never misses them.
04:30No, no, no.
04:30I mean, if the rest of the league is going to continue to start making the stuff that Aubrey's making
04:34like they were last year when they had the new kicking balls,
04:36where it's like, okay, if the league starts...
04:38If everybody's making 60 and you're showing me you do what eight other people in the league have shown they
04:42can do...
04:43Yeah.
04:43What am I paying you for?
04:44Like, I can go find that from other people.
04:47And so, that's the other risk is, like, are you...
04:50Do you wait on trends going a certain direction that end up proving or showing, like,
04:56hey, the rest of the league can do this, too.
04:58You're not unique enough to pay this.
05:00All right, Choppy, lay out the Brandon-Arbery scenarios.
05:02All right, assuming he signs the tender, which, why wouldn't he, as Bobby said?
05:05Option A, which one do you want to happen?
05:10Option A is no team offers him anything.
05:12He plays for the 5.75, $24 million tag, and then they worry about the future next year.
05:20That's option A.
05:21Option B is some team offers him $8 million a year on a contract, and the Cowboys match.
05:30All right, that's option B.
05:32Which would be insane.
05:34Option C is some team offers him a deal.
05:38The Cowboys do not match, and they take the second-round pick.
05:42I'm okay with any of them, to be honest with you.
05:44You know, if they don't match, I get the second-rounder.
05:47If they do match, I mean, I wouldn't love a four-year, $32 million deal.
05:51But, man, there is nothing to be more demoralizing than having a bad kicker.
05:59Like, having a good kicker is one thing that's great.
06:01Having a bad kicker just feels like it's so much worse.
06:04Yeah.
06:05It's so much more penal than having a good kicker.
06:07Do you feel like kicking is like, basically, you either have a good kicker that you're confident in, or a
06:14bad one.
06:14There's no like, oh, a kicker's okay.
06:15Like, you either trust your kicker or you don't.
06:18I don't know.
06:18I don't pay attention to those game scenarios close enough with everyone else.
06:23I think the one thing—I understand your argument, Bobby.
06:27I'm not here to have an all-out war over it.
06:29I think you're taking a little bit for granted.
06:31For me, those moments in the game where I'm cutting it to a one score and I absolutely have to
06:37have it, those are such sighs of relief for me.
06:41Or the momentum going into halftime or, you know, getting that two-score lead.
06:48And you can do it with a 62—
06:50There's a lot of pressure on the offense.
06:51You've got to score a touchdown.
06:54I mean, like, imagine—
06:56Both ways.
06:57Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:57Like, is it more maddening to have a bad kicker than it is, like, relief to have a good one?
07:02I mean, I think it is.
07:03I think if you have a bad kicker, I'm much more like—
07:05I mean, I don't know.
07:06I really don't go with bad kickers around here.
07:08I was going to say that I don't assume that—
07:10See, that's the thing is that I think a lot of people feel like, well, if you take Aubrey away,
07:15it could get bad really fast.
07:17And it's like—I don't think the likelihood is that they're just all of a sudden they can't find somebody to
07:20make kicks.
07:21Like, I don't think they find somebody to make kicks as often as he does or as well as he
07:24does.
07:25But I do think it's like—I think I find somebody that does it consistently enough that I'd say, well, I'd
07:31much rather have a second-round pick.
07:32The worst of those to me—if they sign him for $8 million, whatever, they sign him for $8 million.
07:37I'm not going to love it, but if they do it, they do it.
07:39But if they sign him for $8 million because they're matching what somebody else offered, it's like, you just turned
07:44down a second—
07:44You could tell me Aubrey's going to become what he became.
07:48And if I was staring at picking that in the second round, I would go, do not pick a kicker
07:52in the second round.
07:54I would rather have the second-round pick.
07:56And so to me, I would be—fine.
07:58If he plays on the tender, cool.
07:59If somebody else signs him, gives him the money, even if they sign him to an $8 million extension.
08:03But if somebody offers it and they match it, I would be—my head would explode.
08:07And we did the defensive end drop-off, and we'll do it again for Crosby when you hit 29, 30,
08:1431.
08:15We need to do a kicking study drop-off because, again, we're talking about him at 30.
08:19Is he making these kicks at 32 and 33?
08:24Now, there's been a lot of old-ass kickers, but how much are they relying on the power that he
08:29does?
08:29Aubrey's a big dude, right?
08:31We saw with the golf swing how much power.
08:33However, if you tell me he's going to be Brandon—again, all this is part of the question mark.
08:40If you tell me he's going to be Brandon Aubrey for the next three years, then I'm okay with the
08:46$8 million match.
08:48Otherwise, I want the second-rounder.
08:51You know, so I got a way—is he going to be this for two or three seasons?
08:55Because, man, it's tough to turn down a second.
08:59It's tough.
08:59I assume—it hasn't really dawned on me, like, that he's going to lose a lot over the next couple of
09:06years.
09:07It would be—I'd be more worried about the mental aspect than I would be about the physical aspect of kicking.
09:12Yeah.
09:13Because you're right, we have seen some really, really old kickers.
09:16Now, Vinatieri at the end, I mean, he wasn't kicking 55, 60-yarders.
09:21You know, he was living in the 40s, right?
09:23It was—this is the way—Justin Tucker, I mean, he was getting up there in age, and he hit the 66
09:29-yarder a couple years ago.
09:30Nick Folk is 41.
09:32Yep.
09:33Brandon Aubrey went 11 for 17 from 50 last year, 50-plus.
09:36Nick Folk was 7 of 8.
09:38So, like, I mean, Nick Folk was hitting them relatively consistently.
09:42Last year, Aubrey was—
09:43He took time off, didn't he?
09:44Who?
09:45Folk?
09:45Nick Folk, didn't he?
09:45Wasn't he out of the league for, like, a year or two?
09:47Yeah, I was going to say, I think the league made him take time off.
09:48I don't know that he took it.
09:49But, no, last year, Nick Folk—or Brandon Aubrey, if you take league qualifying kickers, Aubrey was 15th in field goal
09:56percentage.
09:57And there's a bunch of kickers making about as many 50-yarders as he did.
10:00Pei-Pei, what are the totals saying on the Frankel and Frankel Phanteks?
10:039-0-3, Aubrey, you could say, could be the MVP of the team the last couple seasons.
10:09Didn't the 49ers kicker just get paid?
10:11If the Jets sign Aubrey, do we get their second and ours back?
10:15So, the Phanteks kind of all over the place right now.
10:17Yeah, how do they determine which second?
10:19If a team offers you a second and they have two second-round picks, it's got to be your original
10:24one?
10:24It has to be the original one.
10:26Well, the Jets would be good.
10:27We usually do—well, why would the Jets—
10:30Right.
10:30We should look at the second round.
10:32Mm-hmm.
10:33And a team—like, Schefter had thrown out the Rams.
10:37So, we should look and see who Aubrey makes sense for.
10:41Doesn't make any sense for a scrub.
10:44Right.
10:44Right, and then if I tell you it's at the end of the second versus middle of the second round,
10:49I don't think someone's giving up a top-of-the-second-round pick.
10:52That makes a difference.
10:53I just had to look here.
10:54So, there were 10 kickers that attempted at least 50—or, 10 kickers that attempted at least 10 50-plus field
11:01goals last year.
11:02So, they're kicking them with some regularity.
11:04Aubrey was ninth out of 10 in field goal percentage from 50.
11:08Really?
11:08Mm-hmm.
11:08I'm stunned.
11:10I'm stunned by that.
11:11Yeah, I am, too.
11:13That's the—
11:14Now, the difference is, obviously, he can do 70, and it goes 50-plus.
11:18That's how they track it in the NFL.
11:19So, I mean, the difference here is he can kick 68 sometimes.
11:22Yeah.
11:23And so, there's a difference in terms of the distance, but—
11:25We have to see how many of those misses were 65-plus.
11:28But that's also the allure of the star.
11:30Stop me—yeah, the hype.
11:31Yeah, he's in—I mean, how many of these kicks did he make?
11:33We see—once a narrative is said about somebody, we have told—we've talked about this, it's very difficult for that narrative
11:39to sway.
11:39Stop me when you hear a team—I'm going to go in order in the second round—stop me when you hear
11:43a team where it makes sense,
11:44and your pressure's going to be on you to know their kicking situation, too.
11:48Jets, no.
11:49Arizona, no.
11:50Tennessee, no.
11:51Vegas, no.
11:52Giants, no.
11:54Houston, no.
11:55No.
11:56Kime?
11:56Cleveland, no.
11:58Kansas City, they have Butker.
12:00Cincinnati, no.
12:01They have a good kicker.
12:02New Orleans, no.
12:04Miami, no.
12:06Jets, no.
12:08Baltimore, who was their Tucker replacement?
12:10Tyler Loop, who went 30-34 last year.
12:14No.
12:14Tampa Bay.
12:16Now we're getting to the middle of the second.
12:18Tampa Bay has Chase McLaughlin, who went 32-38 last year, including 11-12 from 50.
12:25No.
12:26Indianapolis.
12:29Indianapolis has—I don't see—maybe Indy.
12:32Indy, well, they only had Spencer Schrader, who went 13-14, so he was finished the year
12:36for them.
12:36And Indy, you know, they—we don't know who they are.
12:38We'll see what happens with Daniel Jones.
12:40I would bet against them.
12:41I don't know.
12:42They try to trick Carly Gordon, is what you're suggesting?
12:45Having the year—having the year that they had last year to start off.
12:49Then Atlanta, Minnesota, Detroit, Carolina, Green Bay, Pittsburgh.
12:56Pittsburgh.
12:56Those teams are, like, kind of smack there in the middle of the second.
12:59Oh, yeah.
12:59Pittsburgh.
13:00Get Big Mike.
13:01Oh, yeah.
13:02Mike, you remember how great it was having Brandon Aubrey?
13:04The only problem is Chris Boswell kicked pretty well for them last year.
13:06That's an awful place to kick, too, isn't it?
13:08Yeah.
13:09But that's the thing.
13:09Like, we just take a look at it.
13:10Like, if you look over last year, like, there's not a lot of—there's not just, like,
13:14a lot of teams with kicking problems.
13:15Detroit had kicking problems last year.
13:17Arizona had kicking problems.
13:19Those are two teams that had it.
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