00:00In all the mock drafts that have been coming out, it feels like, or it has felt like,
00:04maybe until the recent ones, that the Cowboys may have their pick of corner at 12.
00:12And the number one name that has the least amount of worries and concerns is LSU's Mansoor Delain.
00:20Well, I'm wondering, because evaluation people can fall for one impressive workout as well.
00:28That's why you've got a lot of bad teams out there.
00:30I wonder if Delain's 40-time moves him up the board as yesterday.
00:36A lot of people at his workout had him with back-to-back 4-3-8s.
00:41Oh, baby.
00:41He was burning out there, showing off the speed.
00:44That's big. That is big.
00:46And, you know, you see these 40-times at the Combine versus the Pro Day,
00:51and you see the players, how they perform at the Combine versus the Pro Day.
00:57And now, with everybody having these indoor facilities, you know, they're basically all on turf now.
01:01Anyway, as opposed to being out back in the day, they were out on the grass on your regular field.
01:06So, I mean, that's a good number.
01:08That's a really good number to throw out there.
01:10And I have to go back and see what it looked like compared to the Combine for all these players,
01:16and not just them, but all these players, and which one you want to take.
01:18Like, you know, you went to the Combine number, the Pro Day number, the handheld, the laser,
01:23you know, whatever, each team, each scout's going to have their preference, I'm sure.
01:27But that's a 4-3.
01:29And, I mean, holy cow.
01:30I hope some GM isn't like, oh, okay, we haven't been talking about corner.
01:37Let's go ahead and move him up a little bit because I would love, love.
01:40You walk away from day one, and you're telling me that you got the best cornerback in the draft,
01:46or your pick of the corners at No. 12, and that makes me really happy.
01:51Still got to produce at 20.
01:52We'll see what happens with the plan.
01:55But a lot of these drafts have had Delane falling to 12.
02:00Yeah, and, like, you know, you can have your pick, and if you pick the wrong guy,
02:03then it's, I mean, you still did the research.
02:06You know, it's like, do you get sway?
02:08This is what I always, you know, worry about with the combine and stuff.
02:12Do you let these numbers sway you?
02:17Like, do you say you had, if you had...
02:20Well, it's like Bain.
02:20It's the Bain-Indy argument with Broadus and Bobby.
02:24Like, Broadus got a little disgusted when he's watching Reuben Bain throughout the entire year,
02:29and all of us up to the playoff and watching his run are like,
02:34this guy is a force.
02:35This guy's a monster.
02:36The two Hurricane DNs are a problem.
02:39And now you're going to sit here and tell me that everything I saw, and as good as he was,
02:45is going to be negated and offset by a short arm measurement,
02:49and that's where the whole trust the tape moniker comes in.
02:52Are you going to be swayed away, or are you going to say,
02:55how many...
02:56What I would do is say, how many NFL linemen did he go up against in college?
03:03What did he do against them?
03:04And if he had a lot of that success, I'm not worried about the arms.
03:09Yeah, and on the flip side, if you thought Delane was the second or third best corner,
03:16you shouldn't say, well, he's got to go as the top corner now because he ran a 4-3.
03:22You know, if...
03:23Now, if this may be...
03:24What if it was a 4-6?
03:26Right.
03:26Yeah.
03:27Yeah, right.
03:27Now, does this...
03:29I'm like, okay, it's fine not to take him.
03:32We ran a 4-6, but then we go the other way.
03:34Now you're into slow-ish linebacker world.
03:39But, you know, like this would confirm if you thought it was the best.
03:43This would confirm it.
03:44And that's probably how most of these teams take it.
03:47Okay, so yesterday everyone was reacting to the breaking news we had,
03:52not to our topic and our breaking news, but Jackson Smith and Jigba got 42 a year.
03:59This was about 8.30 yesterday, and we talked about how it could affect the Pickens.
04:04I think we all came away with the feeling that it's not a positive for Jerry and Steven
04:09because if you're George Pickens and JSN just got 42, you're like,
04:14okay, I'm not that far away.
04:16First off, George Pickens believes he's as good as JSN.
04:18That's how these guys think.
04:19That's what's important.
04:20What are George Pickens and David Muligheta thinking and feeling, right?
04:25Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, maybe George Pickens says, okay, I get it.
04:29I get it.
04:29JSN, very good player, but I'm not that far away from him.
04:34And Bobby's fear was it raises the floor.
04:36It raises the floor for GP's salary.
04:40So you had a lot of people reacting to that cowboy component.
04:44And Mike Florio and RJ Ochoa said, wow, just imagine if the Cowboys got a George deal done
04:53when they first traded for him, we would not be in this position.
04:57And I'm taking some issue with that.
05:00We can't pretend like we have the hindsight 2020 crystal ball with everything.
05:08We just can't.
05:10Yes.
05:10Right now, if George Pickens was signed and under contract, we'd be feeling really good about it.
05:18And we'd be like, Dallas, good job.
05:20It's off our plate.
05:22We don't have to sweat it.
05:23But man, if they would have traded for George, who we all had, we'd just all conveniently forget
05:29once he puts a star on the side of his helmet.
05:31Same with all local teams once they wear your team's colors.
05:34This was the biggest cancer and problem child, arguably, in the entire NFL.
05:38And you're telling me after you sign him, you're going to give him $34, $35 million a year?
05:44I at least would have questioned that and probably lost my mind over it.
05:48This is before he goes out and plays.
05:50Come on.
05:50We all had questions.
05:51Everybody had questions.
05:53We didn't know what he was going to be.
05:54He was somebody who had the talent, but also had that knucklehead to him.
06:01It was fair to have questions.
06:03If they had signed him to – now, what could they have gotten for him?
06:06What could they have gotten him for, I should say?
06:09Three years?
06:10If you're telling me they could have signed him up for three years and $18 million a year
06:15at the time, right?
06:17Yeah, good luck.
06:17Yeah, good luck.
06:18But let's say they could have.
06:19Let's say they could have done that.
06:21Okay, I could have taught myself into the risk.
06:24I could have taught myself into the risk.
06:25But that's like –
06:26But that's not really realistic.
06:27Not even coming – it's not even like 1% realistic.
06:3018 a year?
06:31When they traded for him?
06:33Yeah.
06:34Well, I'll tell you this.
06:35What was he getting to – I mean, come on.
06:37If he was getting – what was he going to get?
06:40I mean, I know it was going to be more than 18.
06:43He was going to be in the 20s.
06:45Well, if he was going to be in the 20s before last year, then you got no chance of keeping
06:50him less than 38 right now.
06:52None.
06:53Because he had far in a way exceeded any expectation anybody had.
06:59If he was going to be 22, 23, 24, I mean, you better just pony up 40.
07:04I don't know of RJ.
07:05This is called getting ratioed in Ochoa's chat and his X and his responses.
07:12But he tweeted it out.
07:13But imagine if the Cowboys extended when they first traded for him.
07:1753 retweets, 195 responses.
07:19Is that getting ratioed?
07:20Does that mean the internet's telling you they don't like what you had to say?
07:24Yeah, you got to look at the likes, too, the amount of likes.
07:26397.
07:28397, 195 responses, 53 retweets.
07:31Not as bad.
07:32Not as bad.
07:33I've seen worse.
07:33I've seen worse, but that's a little ratio.
07:36I just – look, we all justifiably take our shots at Jerry and Steve in front office,
07:4130-year drop, but we can't.
07:43It can't be a fall for everything.
07:45You wanted them to give him 30, 30, $28 million a year as soon as he signed.
07:53We didn't know what he was going to be.
07:55It felt like a tremendous gamble.
07:56You have to remember the reality of the situation in the moment.
08:00So that was Florio, and that was RJ Ochoa with some George Pickens questions.
08:06I'm going to go ahead and defend them on that.
08:08All right, the Cowboys are going to have – I guess they had a private dinner with SMU wide receiver
08:14Romello Brinson last night.
08:16He's supposed to be a day three selection.
08:19So a lot of Cowboy fans, even though they may support SMU, were not thrilled about that.
08:23Like, why are we wasting dinner bills on day three projects?
08:26And then Chris Sims is getting crushed for coming out with his 2026 wide receiver board.
08:35And a guy that you were asking whether the Cowboys should take if he was possibly there,
08:40you were giving some consideration to it, is coming in at number four on Chris Sims' board.
08:47This is the big headliner, Carnell Tate, not a top three guy, according to the Top Button.
08:53Yeah, he's got Tate in Tier 2.
08:56So Tier 1, Denzel Boston from Washington and Jordan Tyson from Arizona State.
09:02That's Tier 1.
09:03Tier 2, Chris Brazel from Tennessee and then Carnell Tate at Ohio State.
09:09And then Zachariah Branch, Georgia, is your Tier 3 guy.
09:12I love Brazel.
09:13He's a go-up-and-get-it guy.
09:15He is just long, classic jump ball type player.
09:22Kind of reminds me of Pickens a little bit in that.
09:25I think Tate's just a better player.
09:27I don't even think it's much of a discussion.
09:30People went back and did the homework on some of his past wide receiver rankings,
09:34and they're like, when are we going to learn not to listen to this guy?
09:37Last year, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, he had Travis Hunter 1, Kyle Williams 2,
09:42Tett McMillan 3, Jalen Noel 4, Trey Harris 5.
09:48No Luther Burden, no Egbuka, no Matthew Golden,
09:52and obviously we know that Tett is looking like the best of that class right now.
09:572024, he had Malik, that's good.
09:59Brian Thomas Jr., up until last year.
10:02Marvin Harrison, Adunze 4, Roman Wilson 5.
10:06No McConkie, no Worthy, no Ricky Pearsall.
10:112023, he had Zay Flowers, JSN 2, Quinton Johnson 3, Michael Wilson 4, Jalen Hyatt 5,
10:18no Jordan Addison, Tank Dell, or Rasheed Rice above his 3, 4, 5.
10:23So he missed three of the top five.
10:25And then 2022, it got real ugly, it looked like.
10:28He had Jameson Williams 1, Christian Watson, Alec Pierce, Traylon Burks, Drake London,
10:33no Garrett Wilson, no Alave, Jahan Dotson, George Pickens.
10:38So the internet went back and researched, Chris.
10:40They did.
10:41Wide receiver boards.
10:41They did.
10:42I guess, you know, what do you think the number should be out of five that you hit on?
10:52I would say.
10:52I mean, it's tough.
10:53I mean, maybe three.
10:54Yeah, I would say, like, I think you have to hit on at least two, and then, you know,
10:58three puts you in that next level.
11:02Definitely not all five.
11:03Definitely not all five.
11:04But nobody has.
11:06Nobody hits five.
11:07Nobody has Tate four.
11:09No.
11:10No one has Cardinal Tate number four.
11:12I think you, I've seen people have him two.
11:15I've seen people put Tyson ahead of him.
11:17I have not seen anybody have Brazel ahead of him.
11:20That's surprising.
11:22And I don't know about Boston.
11:23I haven't seen his name.
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