00:00Bobby latest Intel and rumors. Yeah, so there is the latest bit of hold on
00:06Let me get this story up here the on the latest with the the Cowboys. I gotta know which story
00:11you're talking about
00:12Which specific story I got like a bunch of them you want to start your
00:18Did you justify to me? I'm gonna piss me off
00:25Did you mean the barn well one or did you mean the one that we had referenced yesterday because there's
00:29two of them not the barn
00:31Well, okay, that's the only thing. All right, the latest Intel on the NFL draft now
00:36We'd reference this yesterday about the Cowboys potentially trading up to get somebody like Caleb Downs or get somebody like
00:40Ruben Bain
00:41So over at ESPN that they had taken Intel for each of the last 32 picks and it's not good
00:47news for the Cowboys
00:48Jordan Renan who covers the Giants says that the Giants have picked five
00:51They would take Sonny Styles over Caleb Downs, but he notes that interior offensive line is their biggest need
00:57The problem is there's no interior offensive lineman this year worth taking in the top 10
01:01Let me bring up something on Styles and I'm gonna need your research assistance
01:05Because there's going to be surprises. We're gonna come in here on Friday. It's part of the greatness of it
01:09And we're gonna say oh my god, we previewed this five billion times. We never predicted this
01:14I was wondering myself
01:15Uh, whether Styles could be the one to fall and drop
01:19I know that no mock has it
01:20That doesn't mean anything unless that someone in New York absolutely knows
01:24I was trying to think of the linebackers that went top five to top ten over the past five to
01:31ten years
01:32Because now all of a sudden magically everyone's saying hey
01:36This safety thing
01:39Allows them to drop and fall
01:42So now we're gonna buck the linebacker trend and all of a sudden have Sonny Styles go automatically top five
01:48Who have been the linebackers top five top five top ten that have gone in the top
01:54In the past five or ten years
01:56The closest would have been and he it's because at the time he was considered a linebacker was Micah
02:03Is the one that comes to mind. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. That's the one that comes to
02:06mind. I've been trying to figure out 11 or 12
02:0812, uh, he was 12
02:10Yeah, he would have been taken at 10
02:12I've been trying to figure out like the surprises and it just i'm like
02:15Common sense is telling me okay unless unless he's all world, but she could be
02:20This this would make sense that because of his position he falls
02:25Yeah, here's where the linebackers have been taken again. It's just linebackers. So you might get edge edges in there,
02:31too
02:31But I don't even want the edges right because he's not an edge last year. The first linebacker taken was
02:36Jalen Walker
02:37At 15th, okay
02:39The year before that it was edger and Cooper
02:42second round
02:43Uh the year before that it was will Anderson again. That's that's well
02:47Anderson's an edge. Yeah, you know, so the first non edge was Jack Campbell at 18
02:52Uh, you go to 2022
02:55Quay Walker was the first edge to a first linebacker at 22
02:582020 that was the last time Isaiah Simmons went eight which Isaiah Simmons is probably a similar skill set to
03:04sunny styles
03:05Yeah, so but either way it's a question. So I just wanted to throw that out there
03:09Uh, I'm not putting on the wall of hot takes as sunny styles falls, but I'm like
03:13That that would be one if we came in here and he went
03:17At 12 or lower where we're like
03:19Why do we all of a sudden think that a linebacker who's not an edge is going to go five
03:24and in 2020?
03:25That was the third straight year. We had one in the top 10
03:27We had roquan at eight in 2018 and devin white at five in 2019
03:32So Mike Sando had pulled like four executives
03:36We read the story at the time where he said project the top 10
03:40And it had pulled various executives and things like this. This was after the combine
03:43So all the the sunny styles hype was there
03:46And on his list he had out of those four executives only one of them
03:52Had caleb downs in the top 10 only one of them had sunny styles in the top 10
03:56None of the other three did now
03:59Two of them had keldrick falk going four and that has shifted since then
04:04So it may be that stuff has shifted but there definitely was a period even after the combine where there
04:08were still people in the league who were going
04:09Yeah, I don't think sunny styles goes top 10. Yeah, so it very well could go that way
04:12There is a lot of smoke around the giants and styles. It feels like yeah
04:16They could take an interior offensive lineman. Maybe they would draft spencer fano from utah. That feels a little high
04:21He's a tackle, but a lot of people think he can move inside
04:24That would help dallas a ton
04:26Problem here is also that on tennessee
04:29Teron davenport where he's talking about what tennessee could do there and he lists like yeah
04:33Jeremiah love could be in play. You got this or that
04:34He says that the dark dark horse to watch for is sunny styles and there's a lot of
04:40Chatter starting to go about that one. So the issue about fred warner robert sala san francisco defensive mindset
04:47That makes a lot of sense and cincinnati
04:50They've got a cincinnati's a problem at 10 because they want secondary is everything that the chatter is there
04:55So if you think about it, who are their pass rushers cincinnati? Yeah, well not trey hendry. That's right. No.
05:01Yeah, there's not
05:01There's not him anymore. Uh, I can't remember off the top of my head who they have rushing the passer
05:06Um, just like okay, you might need an edge. You might need a bane. You might need a messador. So
05:10they've got
05:12Oh, didn't they get uh?
05:14Boye
05:15They did sign boy and moffat. I don't know that that'd be enough to just say i'm not drafting somebody
05:19though
05:19Uh, number four
05:21So if if the titans take sunny styles at four
05:23And then the giants are ooh styles or downs, but they lean styles
05:27Well, okay if styles is off the board at four downs goes at five
05:30And then you've got kansas city nine and ten
05:33There were kansas city nine bengals ten that could go secondary and take delane
05:37And then somewhere in there bane could go. It just it's feeling more and more like
05:42You just to me the biggest thing that would help the cowboys right now is somebody goes
05:46Yes, I trust jermon mccoy's knee
05:49If you trust jermon mccoy's knee
05:51Somebody might bail you out snatch him in the first 11 picks and then it pushes one of these people
05:55down to you
05:55That would be the biggest help for the cowboys right now based on this
05:59But a lot of the cintel right now saying exactly what you're fearful of which is that
06:03A lot of these teams like styles downs and a lot of these teams like, you know, monsoor delane
06:08The one that could slip I think I mean any one of them could I guess I do wonder if
06:13just on
06:14Questions alone if bane goes down to 12
06:16And if he does
06:18That might be dallas's pick right there could simpson surprise with a quarterback needy team above you possible
06:25I mean, I wouldn't rule anything out. I think the earliest simpson could go 16 to the jets
06:31But I mean it's it the jets could move up to get him
06:34I mean, I never would have said in million years anybody could have surprised us and picked michael pennex in
06:38the top 10 and then
06:38Somebody did it. So it's definitely lose their mind when it comes to court
06:42And I agree with the process
06:44But they do lose their mind when it comes to
06:46Well, a lot of times people will let I mean in recent history
06:49We've seen some quarterbacks like teams making a statement of just like he's not good enough
06:53We refuse to just reach yeah, but I'm not seeing it. I think you're right
06:57I'm not seeing it at all now does somebody try to jump ahead like if miami miami has shown they
07:03want to keep stacking picks
07:04Um, and so if somebody looks at the jets at 16 and goes there's a trade partner for us at
07:0911 in miami
07:10We'll we'll make the swap and the best thing about having two picks is
07:14Uh, even if they the jets do some with simpson at 16 that helps you at 20
07:19So that's the latest draft intel around the league. Let's talk about some possible different trade scenarios
07:25How about all the trade scenarios? Bill barnwell did an all trades mock draft where every single pick gets traded
07:31I have no idea how long this did this has to this has to be a maddening exercise
07:35Awful, awful, awful
07:37I don't know how maddening has to be for him. He just he seems to just go like yep
07:40This is it seems like just something he just churns out
07:43So the raiders trade the first pick they traded to the jets the jets to go from two to one
07:47Give up the second round their their second round pick which is number 33
07:51And their fourth round pick which is number 103 to move up one spot now
07:55Is he taking a player with these picks? He's not. Okay, he's not now obviously you would do it for
07:59fernando. Yeah, let's just skip to the cowboys
08:02All right, uh, well the cowboys don't have to wait very far the cowboys trade up
08:07Two number six cleveland
08:10The browns get 12 20 and a 20 27 second
08:17The cowboys get one hang on
08:21They get the browns first round pick number 24
08:26And a toy 27 fifth so they basically yes, they basically trade wait
08:31So because cleveland picks is six and 24
08:34Do you just swap first round picks so you get their firsts?
08:38We uh, they get our firsts and then you also give up next year's two and you get back next
08:44year's five
08:45Yes, so you're picking six of 24 versus 12 between bailey's off the board, bobby
08:49Uh, i'm still guaranteeing one of these other guys styles down to ever and then i'm dead
08:53I didn't I still have two first round picks and the hood will probably be there 24. Would you do
08:57it for down?
08:58I mean, sorry, would you do it for styles? Yeah, I mean for that for that return like like I
09:02don't
09:03in theory like
09:05Now those point values when we talk about the trade value chart that does not add up for cleveland
09:09That would definitely house dallas dallas would come out ahead in that trade swap, you know
09:14They're they're also talking about teams moving up getting and you've mentioned this I think
09:18Getting more value than they should
09:20For what they're trading up for
09:22Uh, so it's it's rare typically if you trade up you end up paying a tax like you end up
09:28paying like 10% tax on it
09:30So that's the first cowboys pick
09:34Then you got to go and you got to get to the cowboys actual pick and let's say the cowboys
09:38don't
09:39Make that move with the browns the cowboys
09:42Trade up to number two
09:46With the jets
09:47They trade their number one which is 12
09:51Their fourth round pick 112
09:54Their 20-27-1
09:57And their 20-27-3
09:59And in return they get the second overall pick and a fifth round pick next year
10:03So they get to keep 20
10:05This doesn't make any sense to me at all
10:07I don't know how you go from from 12 to 2 and somehow keep 20 but they had them doing
10:12it
10:12Especially when you're giving over away your top pick next year
10:15Yeah, that's that's odd now
10:18How are these people like bruce feldman barnwell on this?
10:22Missing so much on the compensation
10:24Feldman I get because feldman doesn't cover it regularly barnwell. I think is just dumb
10:31I think he's a fake smart guy
10:34But the other thing there is trading it as a first to the jets
10:39I don't know if they're allowed to do that
10:41Now it might be different because the jets are the ones who have the we get the higher of the
10:44two picks currently as it is
10:45So you may be able to say well, we're just trading you the second one
10:48So that's why it may not have the same rules applied
10:51But otherwise you'd have to trade it as a two that escalates and I don't know if you can do
10:54that with that draft trade
10:55Oh, yeah, that would make sense
10:58I mean
11:01That seems like a Dallas wins on that trade though again
11:03If you're just talking trade valley chart, that's two of them now where they trade up and they win now
11:07Let's go to number 20
11:09The Cowboys send number 20 to the Chiefs
11:12They drop down nine spots to 29
11:14They also pick up the Chiefs third round pick which is 74 and the Chiefs fourth round pick which is
11:20109
11:20Hmm. Yeah, I'll do that
11:23You do that one too?
11:24Yep
11:25I do it. I do all three of those in fact if I bet there
11:28I keep feeling like they are going to make a trade with the Chiefs on draft day
11:31Whether it's to go up to nine or go back to 29 they'll they'll work with them on one of
11:35those
11:36And that is all she wrote
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