00:00Not disgusting is what you're going to hear from Todd Munkin, but he thought that the
00:04Browns play in 2025 was disgusting and mince no words about what he sees when he sees what
00:10he calls, well, I can't say it, I'll let him say it about bad football.
00:13Your physicality, your effort, and your execution pop off the tape, because that has nothing
00:19to do with what scheme you run.
00:20The way I like to say it is, as much as I love winning and I hate losing, I despise
00:27football, like absolutely despise that it doesn't look like you want it to look like,
00:32like where it's just like you got 10 on the field, you got 12, you're up against the clock,
00:37you don't have effort that you look for, it doesn't even look like you've practiced.
00:43There's nothing worse than that, because it's a reflection of you.
00:47That is you out there.
00:48When Jimmy and Dee sign my check with my name on it, sign a check with my name on it,
00:53they
00:53expect a kick-ass football team, and my job is to prove them right every day.
00:56When I got paid at the last place I was at, they expected a kick-ass offense, and that
01:00was my job to try and prove that every day.
01:02That's what a player's job is.
01:04When they sign a check with their name on it, it's their job to prove it every day, just
01:07like all of us.
01:08That's our job.
01:09If I can just brag here for a moment.
01:12Audio courtesy ESPN and Kevin Clark's This Is Football Show.
01:16That second sentence he said about you don't even look like you bleep in practice is a sentence
01:19I've said to Owen about youth football.
01:24Which is a reflection on the coach.
01:27Football guys, yeah.
01:27Not about my team.
01:28No, not about my team.
01:29Not down to the horseshoe.
01:30That's for damn sure.
01:32We had a kick-ass football team that day.
01:34It's a bigger program, Owen.
01:35Lima, it's a bigger program.
01:37Okay?
01:38All right?
01:39Now, I know Kirtland was able to go up there and beat D1ers.
01:41That's a different story.
01:43Was Tiger Laverde able to do it year one?
01:45No.
01:46No.
01:47It's a process.
01:48Jimmy's and Joe's guy.
01:50I'm not an X's and O's guy.
01:51Look at me.
01:52Go ahead.
01:52What were you going to say about Todd?
01:53Uh, so what's so interesting is that got me immediately thinking about how crazy the
02:01drop-off was in a lot of the stuff he just talked about over the six years of Kevin Stefanski.
02:05What separated Kevin Stefanski and what made a lot of us fall in love with him in the early
02:10years was, whoa, boy, they are lining up just the little things.
02:15They're lining up.
02:16They're getting plays in on time.
02:18They're looking competent with a very young quarterback, right, and some young players,
02:22and they look like they practiced and practiced a lot, and it looks like they've optimized
02:27their time while a lot of the other teams are struggling with COVID and how they're going
02:31to practice and getting on the Zoom meetings, like, they looked smarter than everybody else.
02:37And then, by the end, it looked the complete opposite.
02:41It looked like they had 10 guys at times on offense.
02:46It looked like they lined up with 12 guys out of the huddle on offense.
02:49What Todd Munkin says is why coaches are such control freaks.
02:53What Todd Munkin just said, that's what you just pointed out.
02:56That's why.
02:57Because Todd Munkin's better than that.
02:58Most coaches are better than that.
02:59You football coaches are better than that for crying out loud for the most part here.
03:03No one wants that to be a reflection.
03:04I mean, you're right.
03:05And Todd Munkin in 2019, you know, some of the stuff that he says now, it's like, yeah,
03:09I guess I could kind of understand where I didn't think he was giving people game plans
03:13in 2019 and pre-games, but, you know, it's a close circle of people, coaches in the NFL.
03:18Todd Munkin has been around football for a very long time, even in 2019.
03:21Like, yeah, he probably was upset with the way things were going and was venting to other
03:25coaches at that time.
03:26I mean, you just heard some of that venting and frustration that goes on.
03:30Go ahead.
03:30Well, but it resonated.
03:32Obviously, every fan heard him.
03:34And what did they immediately do?
03:35Draw the comparisons to a coach before him that said nothing, that everything seemed toothless.
03:40Any of the attempts at accountability just went in one ear, out the other for not only the fans,
03:46but it seemed like the players, you know, nobody was being held accountable.
03:50And it's just, maybe at just a very base symbolic level, it sounded like you have a coach that
03:57is going to hold guys accountable.
03:58We'll see.
03:59We'll see if any of the tough talking actually matters because we've had tough talking coaches
04:03come through the NFL and that act wore thin very quickly.
04:08But just in terms, you knew the one thing about Todd Munkin, he was going to pass all the
04:13tests with flying colors when it came to communication in the early going.
04:17At least with the fans.
04:18Yeah.
04:18Oh, yeah.
04:18And that's my major concern.
04:20Like, we are getting closer and closer to the draft is coming up next week.
04:25So I know a lot of people are excited about that.
04:26But we're getting closer and closer to OTAs.
04:29And when I hear Todd Munkin say these things, like, I get excited.
04:32Like, I think any football fan gets excited about here.
04:36You say what you want to about cussing, things like that.
04:38I know we have fun with that.
04:40But honestly, that's a hell of a message.
04:42I mean, when he's saying that and talking about bleepy football, you look like you don't
04:47even practice, those type of things.
04:48That rubs everybody the wrong way.
04:50You don't have to have ever played football.
04:53That pointed out, I hope he's not writing checks he can't cash.
04:58Because I'm an excitable person, and I've had a lot of people roll their eyes over the
05:03last 14 years, really my whole life, about guys I've been excited about.
05:06And he's saying a lot of the right things.
05:08And I remember Freddie came in and said a lot of the right things.
05:11And this is the only comparison I make, because I don't think that they're very comparable
05:13people, Freddie or Todd Munkin.
05:16But Todd or Freddie came in and said all them things, and they went out and committed 20
05:19penalties.
05:20And only could accept 18 during the game, because there was two plays, they committed two
05:24penalties.
05:25You looked like you didn't practice, and you looked like you weren't ready to go.
05:29It really looked like you thought this was going to be easy.
05:32Now that was when Freddie was head coach, but Todd was here.
05:34So I hope you're not just writing checks that you can't cash, because we're all excited right
05:38now.
05:38But I think a lot of fans are going to be going, hey, you still have some of the same
05:42players
05:42from last year.
05:43We have been arguing about this team's culture and getting it jump-started for how many years
05:48now?
05:49Because you admitted it yourself.
05:50Like, there might be a time for Todd Munkin.
05:54I hate to point this out, and I hope I never have to do it.
05:57But I might have to use his words against him.
06:00Because if you're sitting there, keep that quote.
06:02Keep that quote right there.
06:03Keep the quote that he used when they show the team meeting, and he's talking about the
06:072019 Browns, and about how disorganized they were.
06:10Keep these quotes.
06:11Because I don't want to use it against them.
06:12But if you go out there and you commit a bunch of penalties, and you have a bunch of pre
06:15-snap
06:16penalties, false starts, silly things where guys don't know where to line up, I have to
06:20use these words against you.
06:21Going, is this just lip service to a fan base?
06:23Do you really know what you're doing?
06:26Can you really bring people along with you?
06:29Because there's been guys who have come here.
06:31They all have the best of intentions, Anthony.
06:34But once you start practicing, once you start putting together games, you have to get people
06:39as close to on the same page as possible.
06:41Mistakes are going to happen.
06:43And sometimes they're going to happen at inopportune times.
06:46Guys try to make plays.
06:47They go a little bit different.
06:48It happens.
06:49I can understand some things.
06:52It's an imperfect game played by imperfect people.
06:54But damn it, if we still see some of the same crap we've been seeing, I'll put some of it
07:00on the players, absolutely.
07:01But you're out here talking tough in the month of April about how great this is going to be.
07:06Or excuse me, how much more organized it's going to be.
07:08How much better football it's going to be.
07:10And damn it, it better be that way.
07:12Well, think about Kevin.
07:13Because I've been lied to with the best of intentions so many times over.
07:16I just can't keep believing every new coach who comes in here that it's going to be completely
07:21different and we're all going to be Camelot here soon.
07:23I just remember, you know, Kevin Stefanski very early on after they would lose a tough
07:28game or there would be questionable clock management.
07:31And he would say, that's on me.
07:33That's not on the players.
07:34And it got old real quick.
07:35And the first time you hear that, great.
07:37Love it.
07:38Finally, some accountability.
07:39The second time that comes up, okay, I think he said that last week, but it's good.
07:44That's something to reinforce.
07:45By the 55th time, it's like, well, are you holding anybody accountable?
07:49Because eventually this is on you.
07:51Eventually, this is a direct reflection on you.
07:54And so it wore thin.
07:55And that's why, quite frankly, I think you saw guys like Miles Garrett rolling his eyes
08:00even after victories in the locker room when Kevin was trying to talk.
08:03And part of the issue is, is that how many guys have we had who have been an assistant
08:08coach here and just taken over as head coach?
08:10We've had one, right?
08:11We made the argument for Greg Williams back in the day.
08:13He didn't get the job.
08:14It was Freddie Kitchens who got the job.
08:15We made the argument for Jim Schwartz.
08:17Now, his defense was fine.
08:18We didn't have to worry about his defense as fans.
08:20But I just got to point this out, and this is coming from me, and I know I'm a rah
08:24-rah
08:25Homer guy.
08:27Well, you've been through how many coaches since 99, starting with Chris Palmer?
08:31That means that all these guys who came in saw a tape previously and said, this is bleepy
08:38football, and this needs to change.
08:40And what did we all get in the end?
08:42More bleepy football that didn't change.
08:45Now, I can't put it all on a head coach.
08:47These guys get paid a lot of money to play the game.
08:49So I'm going to have to put some of it on the players as well.
08:52But there's been so many coaches who have come through here, and they've seen tape of
08:56the year that was there before, from Pat Shermer on everybody, and they go, this is disorganized.
09:01This is bad.
09:02This needs to change.
09:04Whatever things that they thought of when they took that job.
09:07And Todd Munkin's just the latest in line.
09:09How can I trust that it's going to change?
09:12How can I?
09:13There's nothing they can do except go out there and practice and play the games and look
09:17as good as possible in practice.
09:18There's going to be things that happen in practice that, again, not every day is going
09:22to be your best day out there in the practice field.
09:23I totally understand that.
09:24I get it.
09:25I really do.
09:25I'm not going to demand perfection every single day.
09:29But it better be way more days than not.
09:31There better be some moments in there that really make me change.
09:34Because it started out well with Kevin.
09:36You're right.
09:37Okay?
09:38I don't know what Todd Munkin's going to do in year six.
09:40Let's get to year six when we get to year six like we did with Kevin.
09:43I'm worried about year one with Todd.
09:45And if this is really going to change.
09:47Because there's been so many guys who have come through and said the same thing before
09:50in 14 years on the fan.
09:52And I've sat here and went, oh my god, it's going to be different.
09:55And I've just looked like a bigger fool every single year.
09:58So what Todd Munkin says, I'm going to lie to you guys.
10:01It excites me.
10:01It excites me a lot.
10:04But I have to go back in the history and go, I love what you're saying.
10:07I just hope it's going to be all true.
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