00:00I thought he threw some stuff out that is thought-provoking.
00:03I'm Jeff Phelps. My buddy's Andy Baskin.
00:06My other buddy, Dan Mennegan, couldn't agree with me less.
00:09But I thought he threw out some things that were thought-provoking.
00:14Made me think that he had watched Sal Palantonio's show that he did with Greg Cosell.
00:20Because at different times, he said this.
00:23Early on, when you draft as high as we're drafting,
00:27you want a quality starter or a difference maker.
00:32Public discourse is you draft for need there,
00:35but we have a longer-term investment for your team when you pick that high.
00:42And then he threw out the words difference maker and elite talent.
00:48And then later on, he said you want to select a unique player.
00:53And that made me think, yeah, he helped contribute to Sal Palantonio's show.
01:01You select a unique player over preference.
01:07Difference maker, unique player, elite talent.
01:11That doesn't scream, boy, do we need a wide receiver.
01:14What he had said, now I don't know if he's trying to send us down the wrong road.
01:19Which, quite possible.
01:20Best available player.
01:22That was what I got out of the whole thing.
01:25Best available player.
01:26Well, let's go back to what you just said.
01:28Unless he's trying to send us down the wrong road.
01:31What he describes there is taking somebody who's the highest guy on your board at six.
01:39Regardless of position.
01:42I will say that after listening to what he said, and again, he's throwing out smoke.
01:48Because that's what he's trying to do.
01:50He might be throwing out smoke to try and get other teams to jump.
01:54I took this out of it.
01:56And let me kind of just make one point.
01:57Make three.
01:58The point there about saying all those things is that if you think Washington, who's right after you, is breathing
02:06down your neck, and Jeremiah Love is on the board, now you may have it in the back of your
02:14mind the Browns could take Love.
02:15I'm not saying they're going to.
02:17That was my next point.
02:18Yeah.
02:19As he said that, I'm like, is he saying this because he wants us to truly believe he's about to
02:26take the best player on the board?
02:27Or does he want Washington to think he's going to take the best player on the board?
02:31That Jeremiah Love.
02:34He's special.
02:35He compared him to Christian McCaffrey and Jameer Gibbs from the Niners and the Lions.
02:42He's a dynamic prospect.
02:45The ways you can deploy him, he is special.
02:49Could it get in the way with, you know, Quinjohn Judkins?
02:52Well, you have to have those discussions.
02:54But players that transcend scheme, you have to find a way to use those players.
03:00His talk on Jeremiah Love made you think they're either really, really open to it, or, man, is he trying
03:05to sell it?
03:06And as you just said, that if somebody wants Jeremiah Love, then they need to make a phone call.
03:14Yes.
03:14They need to make a phone call.
03:15So he did a good job of trying to sell it, if that's what he's trying to do.
03:18Yeah.
03:19But if we're sitting here saying, well, that could just be smoke, then I'm sure somebody in the NFL who
03:24does this professionally every day.
03:26But he also did say, you can't lie to other GMs, because you're going to have a hard time doing
03:32business if you start lying.
03:33Well, he wasn't.
03:34He didn't lie.
03:35No, he didn't lie.
03:36He said what he thought about guys, to some extent, especially Jeremiah Love.
03:42Didn't say a ton about the wide receivers.
03:44He said, Carnell Tate is very acrobatic.
03:47And he said that Jordan Tyson is great with a ball in his hands.
03:52And then he actually talked about the Ohio State wide receivers.
03:56I was a little more wide receiver in a second.
04:00But I was left thinking this about the offensive line.
04:06There's no way they're taking an offensive lineman at six.
04:10Really?
04:10I didn't.
04:11Yeah.
04:11I wasn't convinced that.
04:12I say that for this reason.
04:14Why?
04:14He said it's an offensive line group.
04:17He said depending on scheme and everything else, college tackles may move inside.
04:22And then he said tackles are tackles.
04:26Well, if tackles are tackles, then you don't need to take a left tackle at six.
04:31You can take somebody at 24 and plug them in and figure out who's playing left, who's
04:36playing right, and away you go.
04:37Okay, but I also could say that for the same reason that we're trying to think that if
04:43Washington wants Jeremiah Love at six, he may want an offensive lineman, and he doesn't
04:49want anybody to think that they're really like, eh, all the offensive linemen are the same.
04:54Why wouldn't you say that?
04:56Andy, if the...
04:57Again, if we're trying to throw curveballs here.
05:00If a quality starter, difference maker, elite talent, unique player is there at six, and
05:09they take an offensive lineman, I'll let you buy me lunch.
05:13Maybe he really wants an offensive lineman, and so that's why he's talking about unique
05:19talent, this and that.
05:20You know, maybe there's somebody there that they're concerned would take them before he
05:27could get there, and so maybe they think if they get back in, they might be able to get
05:31to...
05:32You never know.
05:33He could be playing mind games with, like, two or three general managers during the whole
05:36press conference.
05:37Well, that could have been.
05:38It takes a lot of work to do that, but you never know.
05:41The guy that was front and center there to me was Jeremiah Love, because he fits everything,
05:48the two big points he talked about, Love in particular, and then the entire difference
05:53maker, elite talent, quality guy.
05:56That, to me, was pretty...
06:00That was my biggest takeaway from it.
06:02Andrew's doing this all year.
06:05You can say you don't like him, you do like him, whatever.
06:07This is his job, is to handle that roster.
06:11And coaches, he might...
06:12I'm sure he solicits coaches' opinions.
06:14He solicited Kevin's opinions.
06:16Sure.
06:18But that's not the coach's job.
06:20He needs to solicit the opinion, but it doesn't have to be the end-all, be-all.
06:24And if he's looking for a tiebreaker on one guy or another, what the coach says might be
06:29a difference maker.
06:30Now, if the coach is right, and that player becomes a top-notch player in the league, then
06:36the coach gets more credibility with the general manager, because you just made the general
06:39manager look brilliant, didn't you?
06:42Yeah.
06:42You really think Andrew Barry, in his sixth year, after they just fired the head coach
06:47and he's coming off three and five win seasons with a roster he put together, is going to
06:51say, Todd, whatever you want.
06:53No.
06:54There's no way.
06:54No.
06:55I don't think there's any general manager that's doing that.
06:57I agree.
06:57But I do.
06:58I want to know.
06:59I mean, if Todd tells you, I'm not going to be able to work with this guy, or I don't
07:02think it's going to work, and you draft him anyway, you know you're asking for problems.
07:06You're asking for headaches.
07:08So, you better, I mean, there's got to be a level of tolerance when you draft somebody
07:12knowing what the head coach, because, and if you're going to draft somebody at six, you
07:18better believe they met the head coach before.
07:20You're not drafting somebody out of the blue.
07:22Well, sure.
07:22I mean, that's.
07:23It happens every once in a while, though, where a general manager just trying to steer
07:27people in the wrong direction the whole time.
07:28They know who they want.
07:29They know who they want.
07:30And then all of a sudden, everybody thinks they're going one way.
07:33And then on draft day, they're like, nah, I'm going to take this guy.
07:35And they're like, this guy's never been in the facility before.
07:38You mean Deion Waiters?
07:40Yes, Jeff.
07:41From the Cavs back in the day?
07:42I do.
07:43You drafted who?
07:44Who's this guy?
07:45Deion Waiters.
07:46I just think, I think Andrew laid the groundwork to draft a running back, which I don't think
07:58they're going to do, or to draft one of those defensive players who's on the board.
08:04I think there was so much talk about quality starter, difference maker, longer term investment
08:11for your team, public discourse is need, but longer term investment for your team, elite
08:18talent, select a unique player.
08:21That's what, that's what it left me thinking.
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