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00:01So, Owen brought up something during the break.
00:03I want to get to a clip from Howard Beck
00:06where we might be focused on the wrong opponents here,
00:08but Owen brought up something during the break.
00:10He's like, hey, man, you guys can't just keep trading out.
00:12You got to eventually make a pick.
00:13You can't just be taking chances.
00:15I think if Thursday night kicks off and they go,
00:19we've traded down, everyone goes, hooray, right?
00:21Uh-huh.
00:22Especially if they add a next year's first round pick to that, right?
00:25Yeah.
00:26That's a big win.
00:27But between now and next Thursday,
00:28we can't just go, the plan is to trade down.
00:31See you Thursday, right?
00:32Like, there are shows to do.
00:34So, you have to have, like, I don't know that Sadiq's,
00:38to me, that's crazy to take him at six,
00:40but you have to have these conversations right now.
00:42And you also, I don't know if there's any draft,
00:44unless you were just taking a bunch of high school players
00:46out of nowhere one day.
00:49Any draft, you're going to want first round picks
00:51because you're going to want control over guys.
00:52I mean, you're going to want that fifth year in there
00:54and be able to have some control over some guys
00:56because you get into the second round
00:58because of one thought, you're going,
00:59well, is the second round pick in 2027 worth more?
01:01No, it's not.
01:02It's not worth more than a first round pick in 2026.
01:04You want to take a first round pick.
01:05And I think you guys are right.
01:07That's why I'm glad I asked the question
01:08instead of shooting my mouth off first.
01:09I think Rodney Litchfield had a hell of a point.
01:11I think you had a hell of a point, Tone,
01:12where it's like, well, I know a lot of people
01:14don't have much faith in Andrew Barry.
01:15I think his approval rating is probably somewhere in the 20s.
01:18Ah, we're getting ready for the draft.
01:20He's speaking today at 11.
01:21Maybe it'll go up by the end of the day, right?
01:23We'll carry that live on the fan, I hope.
01:25Hopefully, I'm not saying things I have to take back later on.
01:29But you guys are right.
01:35Hey, Ken, you don't trust Andrew Barry.
01:37Eh, you know, this last draft was good,
01:40but I don't think I do.
01:41Okay, so we want to give him less picks to work with?
01:44Make those picks even more important?
01:47So if you could trade back and get some more picks,
01:50and I know if you trade with the Cowboys,
01:52everybody mentions the Cowboys.
01:54I think part of the reason people mention the Cowboys
01:55is because the Cowboys are nuts.
01:56But say you trade back with the Cowboys.
02:00Is there a possibility you get more first-round picks?
02:03Yeah.
02:03Is there a possibility you get more picks, more whacks at it?
02:05And maybe this hot streak that he's on, Andrew Barry's on,
02:09maybe it continues today,
02:10and we're laughing by the end of this football season.
02:13Everything can't be doom and gloom.
02:15I know no one has a lot of faith in the team.
02:17It can't all be terrible.
02:18Owen said before we came back off the air,
02:20he's like, you cannot reach for an offensive lineman.
02:23You know, that is the thing I keep coming back to
02:25because I was trying to be really open-minded,
02:27you know, a couple of weeks ago where I'm like,
02:29well, if you're telling me the draft isn't good,
02:32and the Browns aren't really supposed to be good this year,
02:35why can't I take an offensive lineman that's a project?
02:37But the more and more you guys talk about Freeling and his issues,
02:42I'm like, man, it would look really, really bad
02:44if they took a guy who wasn't even ready to start the year
02:47when they have these obvious needs.
02:49So I do think you guys won me over when it comes to that.
02:52But if you have a third first-round pick some way, somehow,
02:54like, I do think two first-round picks.
02:58I don't, excuse me, I don't think that way,
03:00but I think a lot of fans are like, man,
03:02you've got to start both these guys.
03:03But three, if you somehow get three first-round picks out of it,
03:06yeah, I think that maybe they do think it's okay
03:10to kind of maybe wait on a guy like Martin Rowe Freeling
03:13if he were to fall, if people weren't to trust him.
03:16But I think a team that takes him doesn't necessarily,
03:19I think a team that takes him probably ends up being a really good team
03:21because they know they don't have to start him right off the bat.
03:24For us, you know, we've got to find guys.
03:26That's part of the reason I said Blake Miller.
03:27I think he's going to be able to be plug-and-play
03:29almost wherever you put him.
03:30And maybe I'll end up being wrong.
03:31I mean, guys get it wrong all the time.
03:32But that's part of the reason, just because I think that so many folks
03:36look at it, you go, you're 6-24, you have two first-rounders,
03:41and even though it's not a great draft,
03:43I think people are convinced that they just both have to play week one,
03:47especially at number six overall.
03:48I mean, you take that guy, how would you feel as a Browns fan
03:51if I'm sitting there telling you at number six overall,
03:54yeah, he could be a great player.
03:55He's going to play for you week one.
03:56He's going to be standing on the sidelines when the offense takes the field.
03:59That's not going to be a fun thing to talk about with Browns fans.
04:02Let me get to Alvis in Cleveland.
04:04Alvis, you're first up on the fan.
04:05Yellow.
04:06Hey, good morning, guys.
04:07Thank you for taking my call.
04:08Glad to have you, Alvis.
04:09Go right on ahead.
04:10Yeah, man.
04:12His front office is so wishy-washy, man.
04:14I really don't trust him, man, with more picks.
04:17I think he should just stay with the picks he has
04:19and just build from there.
04:21You know, if Cardinal Tate is there,
04:23everybody keep on saying his time wasn't fast on the 40 or whatever,
04:28but Puka Nakua, he didn't run a fast 40 time.
04:31I mean, look what, he's one of the best receivers in the NFL.
04:33I mean, I can't have a guy running a 5-2 out there for crying out loud,
04:36but I agree with you, Alvis.
04:38Of course not.
04:39Of course not a 5-2.
04:40Well, I'm just – I'm being sarcastic, but I'm saying I agree with you, Alvis.
04:44Like, I think that some people look at the 40s and it's like, man,
04:47again, Anthony Schwartz could outrun anybody in this universe
04:50and he couldn't catch a damn cold.
04:51And he couldn't catch a damn cold.
04:53Exactly.
04:53It's all about, for real, for real, with the receiver.
04:56When you evaluate the receiver and things, it's all about who can get separation.
05:01None of the receivers last year that we had could get separation.
05:04That's why the ball can't get to Jerry Judy,
05:07because he can't get separation and he can't catch the ball.
05:10You know what I'm saying?
05:11So it's just like, if Carnell Tate or the other dude they're talking about is at 6,
05:15get the best receiver at that point.
05:19Because no matter who we have at the quarterback,
05:22we need someone to throw the ball to.
05:25We need someone with height.
05:26We never draft receivers that have height.
05:30That's another thing.
05:31We never draft receivers that have height that can go up and get the ball.
05:34Only one that they really draft, and he's a tight end, that's Harold Fannin.
05:38You know what I'm saying?
05:38So it's like, I really just don't trust Andrew Barry, man.
05:41I just think they should just stay where they're at and just build from there.
05:45Well, I'll tell you what, it is a tall draft when it comes to wide receivers.
05:48I think the only wide receiver on this top ten list that I have here
05:50that's under six feet tall is Mekhi Lemon,
05:53and he's still a really good wide receiver in his own right.
05:55I mean, everybody else is six feet or above,
05:57according to the official measurements there.
05:59So I think you'll be able to go up and get somebody else.
06:00But like Corey Coleman ran like a 4.340,
06:03and because he runs a 4.52, well, Carnell Tate can't play it
06:07because Carnell Tate's going to be able to catch everything Corey Coleman wasn't able to catch.
06:11I'm going to throw out a question.
06:13That's all I'm going to do.
06:14This is not a theory.
06:15Don't you do this.
06:16Don't you make me look like hell.
06:18I'm throwing it out there.
06:20I'm just going to go around the room here real quick.
06:22And also, you know, 216-474-0092.
06:24It's not going to be coming in hot, but I'm going to throw it out to you guys.
06:26We all want another 2027 first-round pick next year, right?
06:29Just in case.
06:31Nobody except for the most ardent fans of Deshaun Watson or Shador Sanders,
06:36nobody living in reality,
06:38truly 100% believes that one of these guys is going to be the franchise quarterback
06:42for the Cleveland Browns for the future, right?
06:43You can hope.
06:45Hope all you want.
06:46I hope Shador Sanders becomes the future franchise quarterback of the Cleveland Browns.
06:51I just don't believe it's going to happen.
06:52Ken hopes to be wrong, Clint.
06:54That's coming up at 945.
06:56You'll get to hear more of that.
06:58That'll be okay.
06:59Oh, you dumped it.
07:00Oh, yeah, of course.
07:01Now I'll do this.
07:02That sounds really good.
07:05Unless you heard that last.
07:07It's a well-oiled machine, man.
07:09It happens.
07:10What are you going to do?
07:11You're going to dump it out, and you're going to play this?
07:13That sounds really good.
07:17Let me ask you guys this question.
07:19So we all want another 2027 first-rounder.
07:24Yes, yes, yes.
07:27All right.
07:28You all want another 2027 first-rounder.
07:30Let me get to Joshua in Cleveland.
07:32Joshua, I'm going to put you back on hold, okay?
07:33You got me?
07:34You hear me?
07:36Yes, sir.
07:37Don't go firing off with your opinion yet.
07:39I'm going to put you back on hold.
07:40Do you or do you not want another 2027 first-round pick?
07:46100%.
07:46All right.
07:47Let me put you back on hold there, Josh.
07:49Thank you very much.
07:50Try to get back to you coming up here in a bit.
07:52However, you guys want another 2027 first-round pick?
07:58I got another question to ask.
08:00Do you guys think that this is a good draft in the top 10?
08:04Yes or no?
08:06Do you think that this is a star-studded draft in the top 10?
08:09No.
08:09No.
08:09No.
08:10All right.
08:11Josh in Cleveland.
08:12Josh, do you think that this is a star-studded draft in the 2026 first round?
08:17It is not.
08:18Okay.
08:19Josh, I'm putting you back on hold.
08:21Stop trying to talk about other stuff.
08:22Don't stop trying to talk.
08:23Yeah, exactly.
08:24You'll get your stuff in.
08:26Trust me.
08:26How do you feel about the experience of being on hold?
08:28Josh, let's get to it real quick.
08:30Let me ask you guys this question.
08:31I'm going to ask Josh.
08:33Josh, how do you feel about being on hold?
08:34Josh, how do you feel about being on hold?
08:36Yeah, it's great.
08:37All right.
08:37All right.
08:38Put Josh back on hold.
08:39All right.
08:39Back on hold.
08:40He wins.
08:42If you guys don't think the top 10 is really good, I'm just asking questions.
08:47That's right.
08:47All we got to do is ask questions, guys.
08:50Would you be willing to trade number six overall for a team's first round pick in 2027?
08:58Don't everybody talk at once.
09:01And not get anything else back?
09:04Well, no.
09:05You're going to get other things back for giving up a number six overall pick.
09:08You're not just going to get – it starts with a 2027 first rounder.
09:12Okay, that's –
09:13And not get another first rounder back?
09:15Hey, I'm talking about the Cowboys here.
09:17Jerry Jones is a crazy person.
09:18You watch the documentary.
09:21Let's just call it what it is.
09:22Would you take the Cowboys first round pick in 2027?
09:25Or what if it's even 20 in next year's?
09:29I'm willing to go, you know what?
09:3220 in next year's.
09:33So you're picking at 20 and 24.
09:36Well done.
09:37Thank you for helping me out on that.
09:39You willing to do that?
09:41That's – and that's all you get.
09:42You're getting their first round pick next year and you're getting 2026 first round at number 20.
09:46Start over.
09:47Lay it out for me.
09:48Jerry Jones calls you up.
09:50He says, I want some glory hole.
09:52And then we play that into oblivion like we did years ago.
09:55And he says, Lima.
09:58And you go, you're calling the wrong number, Jerry.
10:00You're supposed to call Andrew Bay.
10:01And he goes, I want to give you – I'll give you number 20 overall
10:05and our first round pick next year in 2027 because this is a sex machine
10:08that's going to be going to the top.
10:10And you say, okay.
10:11And he says, you give us number six.
10:13Would you be willing to do that?
10:14I'm spit – guys, I'm spitballing here.
10:16I'm trying to find ways without training you-know-who to get a first round pick in 2027.
10:21We need all the ammo we can get in 2027.
10:24All right?
10:25Are you willing to do that?
10:27I'm asking questions.
10:28Are you willing to do it?
10:30Lima?
10:30So I'm getting 20 and I get their first round pick whatever it is next year.
10:34Oh, my God.
10:35I did not – you made this easy.
10:36I don't understand why this is hard.
10:37Yes, yes.
10:38That's what you get.
10:39You only threw me off because I knew they have the 12th pick.
10:41You go from 6 to 20.
10:43Yeah.
10:44So you go all the way down to 20 and I get their first round pick next year.
10:47First round next year.
10:48I would do that, yeah.
10:48Okay, what if they say, no, you can only have our first round pick next year.
10:53We want up to 6.
10:54No.
10:54And you do not get 12.
10:55You do not get 20.
10:56You cannot do that.
10:57Okay.
10:57I'm making sure so we understand parameters here.
11:00This is totally dreamland, guys.
11:03Owen, what do you say?
11:05You get 20, you get the first rounder next year.
11:07They plan on drafting at number 32.
11:09Now, they would probably draft somewhere in like 26 or 27, but that's where it is.
11:13Are you willing to do that, Owen?
11:14I don't think I am.
11:15All right.
11:16Joshua in Cleveland.
11:18Hello.
11:18Are you willing to do that?
11:21I would suck Jerry Jones' big toe to trade back any time.
11:24There's nobody there that you would – it's not Julio Jones from 10 years ago.
11:29Yes, trade back.
11:30Get the trenches done.
11:32Like, you guys are so stuck on stupid in Cleveland.
11:34It's ridiculous.
11:35Wait, what?
11:36We're so – what?
11:37We're stuck on what?
11:39You're stuck.
11:40You shouldn't have – you should have got whatever you could for Miles, just like you should for DJ Watt.
11:44You're not winning anything.
11:46There's no Julio Jones that you missed out on when you traded back 10 years ago and you could have
11:50had a number one receiver generational guy.
11:52Well, yeah, but that was – I mean, that was back in the day.
11:54We didn't even know each other then, Josh.
11:56I mean, hell.
11:57I mean, you know.
11:58That was a long time ago.
12:00You can't – there's no guy in that top 10 that's going to change your franchise.
12:04Trade back.
12:05Build a trench.
12:06It's not that hard.
12:07You guys – why do you guys get paid millions of dollars when it's not – I have a 16
12:12-year-old playing fantasy football that runs better than the Cleveland Browns.
12:16Oh, I thought you were going to say we were getting paid millions of dollars.
12:18I said, hell.
12:19No, I wish you would.
12:20You sound smarter than them.
12:22Yeah!
12:24Football guys, brother.
12:26You trade back.
12:27You build a trench.
12:28It's just like – you trade back.
12:29Get whatever you can.
12:30There's no one top 10 that's going to change anything.
12:33And you should have got something for Miles, just like this – I'm a Steeler guy, sorry.
12:37You should have got something for T.J. Watt.
12:40See, I don't want to –
12:41So, the Jerry Jones toe thing, he was able to figure that out.
12:46But at the end of the call, he couldn't wiggle out of that.
12:49It was always doomed.
12:51The call was always doomed.
12:53At least he used it properly.
12:56So, you would do that?
12:59So, how far are you willing to – I'm just asking.
13:01Because I like Carnell Tate and there's going to be people going, guys, we need talent on this football team
13:05now.
13:05We need it right now.
13:06I mean, right bleeping now.
13:09That's all – that's the only reason I did.
13:10Because at first I was thinking, man, would you be willing to give it up – real quick, would you
13:13be willing to give up number six overall?
13:15You ain't getting no 20 back.
13:17You ain't getting 12 back.
13:18You have your own number 24 pick.
13:21That's it.
13:22You get their first round pick in 20, 27.
13:24And then other picks as well.
13:26Second round race, things like that.
13:2720 is hard for me.
13:2812, if no receivers have been taken yet, 12 I might do.
13:34Because then you got to think, oh, you got a chance to get one of those receivers.
13:37I want a first rounder in 20, 27 like I want air.
13:43I want it like I want – like I want a life.
13:47I just want it so bad.
13:49It's just you know every team is saying this.
13:51I want a way out of it.
13:52I know.
13:52I want a way out of this.
13:53Yeah, but they didn't create the hell that we've created for ourselves, even though I didn't want that trade.
13:59I'm stuck in hell.
14:01The only teams that can compare to us are the Jets, maybe the Commanders a little bit.
14:05But they got a little bit with Jaden Daniels, so you really know.
14:09I want out of this.
14:11And I see a way out.
14:13And I just don't want to torpedo because Josh brings up – before we had to dump him, Josh brings
14:20up you-know-who.
14:22I don't want to trade you-know-who because everything's dead in the water.
14:25Your front office is dead in the water.
14:27Your head coach is dead in the water if you trade you-know-who.
14:29And I don't need to say who because everybody knows because we're talking in Cleveland, Ohio.
14:33Everybody knows who who is.
14:34So I don't need to say it.
14:37I don't want to trade him.
14:38Not yet.
14:40Not yet.
14:42Can I give my coach a new coach that everybody seems to like a fighting chance?
14:47Because once they get rid of that guy, that's it.
14:49You're done.
14:502026.
14:51Unless he is a miracle worker offensively.
14:54Yeah.
14:54Unless he truly is the guy that some people are hoping he can be.
14:57It would just be such a hit to the franchise, man.
15:00It really would.
15:01And I would just be like, man, it's a lame duck year for him.
15:04It's a lame duck year for the GM.
15:06It goes against everything you're doing.
15:09I don't want to do it.
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