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03:30Good evening Trinidad and Tobago.
03:32And to our global audience, this is Beyond the Tape.
03:34I'm your host, Whitney Husbands.
03:36Now we're in smack in the middle of the week, so that means only one thing.
03:39It's time for knowledge sharing.
03:41And when we speak of knowledge, it's for you to understand the laws of the land the best way we
03:45can.
03:46And with that, the only person who can do that is one of our favourite attorneys at law who is
03:51here each and every Wednesday because it's legally speaking Wednesdays.
03:54We'd like to welcome our attorney at law and also the Director of Policy and Community Support at the Ministry
04:00of Homeland Security, Mr. Ali.
04:03Good evening to you, Sue, and how are you?
04:05Well, you know, Whitney, you know, I'm becoming accustomed and, you know, I always look forward to those powerful remarks
04:12on our evening.
04:14Yes.
04:14And you think, you know, when you speak about promoting psychosocial and good mental health, I think that you have
04:20just injected, you know, that energy into me in terms of how you introduce me.
04:24And I want to thank you very much for the confidence, you know, as always, you humble me.
04:27And I want to reciprocate that to you as well.
04:31And, you know, I want to say to you that...
04:33You're a busy man, you know.
04:34Yeah.
04:34I want to say to you that the way that you introduced me this afternoon when you spoke about knowledge
04:42and sharing knowledge, I think it's so important for us.
04:46Yes.
04:47Especially where in about 48 hours' time that we're going to engage a very important stakeholder in Trinidad and Tobago,
04:53which is the parents.
04:54Yes.
04:54So I'm happy that you begin like that.
04:56And I want to also say, you know, good afternoon to Jackie and our family on Beyond the Tape, behind
05:00the scenes, very critical.
05:02Our citizens of Trinidad and Tobago, and most importantly, our law enforcement colleagues.
05:06Very interesting afternoon.
05:07I have a lot to disclose this afternoon.
05:09So I look forward to supporting you and, you know, engaging the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago this afternoon.
05:15Can I also acknowledge that I saw seven new judges who were appointed.
05:18Most certainly.
05:19And I have to be a bit boozy because the majority of the seven judges we saw were females.
05:24Yes.
05:25So congratulations to all the seven judges, but it was nice to see the females standing strong.
05:29Well, most certainly.
05:30As a majority.
05:31And I can see the glow on your face when you see that, you know, again, women coming to the
05:35forefront.
05:36You know, and we just celebrated International Women's Day and we have seen women stepping up.
05:40And congratulations to all our newly appointed judges.
05:43I hope that you all play your role to be able to support the reasonable dispensation of justice for the
05:50people of Trinidad and Tobago.
05:52And I want to salute the Honorable Chief Justice for the action or the actions, you know, that he has
05:58taken and continues to take to be able to promote the judiciary of Trinidad and Tobago.
06:02And by extension, the institution of the judiciary of Trinidad and Tobago.
06:07So congratulations to the ladies, six ladies and one gent.
06:11All right.
06:12So as we move right along, because we have a lot to discuss.
06:14Yes.
06:14Some sad news that we found out today into an incident that took place in the Laramie area around 10
06:20a.m.
06:20on the 8th of April, where a San Fernando businessman was shot and killed at his residence on Wednesday morning,
06:28which is today in what police say was a fatal confrontation involving a woman.
06:33Five gunshots were heard.
06:35The victim, Steve Garnie Jr., was actively involved in his family's business in multiple construction projects.
06:43Now, Garnie Jr. was also a prominent figure within the jet ski fraternity.
06:48Now, according to initial police reports, there was a domestic dispute between Garnie and the woman at his residence around
06:5610 a.m.
06:56when he was shot and later succumbed to his injuries at the scene.
07:00Police said that a woman believed to be connected to the incident has since been detained and is assisting investigators.
07:08Investigators are working to determine the circumstances that led to the shooting.
07:14Well, very unfortunate situation with me, and I know that the Honorable Minister of Homeland Security,
07:19in the execution of the, or I should say, in the launch of the, or distribution of the fire station
07:27and fire trucks in South Trinidad,
07:30it didn't occupy some of his comments with reference to that particular incident that you spoke about.
07:35And, you know, my condolences to the family as well.
07:38And, again, it shows the importance, you know, based on the information that came to hand where it suspected domestic
07:44situation.
07:45And, again, when we're speaking about family and the importance of family,
07:49this area of domestic violence also, it's a very, very topical issue.
07:52And it's important for us to direct the required focus in relation to these areas.
07:57And, you know, I just want to echo something that the Honorable Minister of Homeland Security said,
08:00that, you know, sometimes there are issues in our family.
08:03And it's important for us to confront those issues in a mature way.
08:07And, you know, not leave it, you know, to reach a stage where it's, you know, a stage of decay.
08:12And, you know, it's frustrating the members of that family.
08:16And, you know, third parties who may be aware, you know, if you have any opportunity to intervene,
08:21please intervene with positivity to help resolve those issues.
08:24But very unfortunate situation.
08:25And, again, calls for the importance of very healthy families in Trinidad and Tobago.
08:30So for the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago, if you are in a situation where there may be issues of
08:35domestic violence,
08:36you know, let good sense prevail.
08:37Or if you're aware of a domestic situation and you can play a role, you know, play a positive role
08:41to be able to get help for that family.
08:43And, you know, it's so sensitive with you when there are children involved as well.
08:48And, you know, over the last couple of weeks, you know, you have shown an interest for children as well
08:52by your presence at the recent symposium.
08:54And very soon we'll see where our focus is on children to the extent now that we are looking to
08:59ensure that parents and caregivers, you know,
09:02understand their responsibility.
09:03But we will share some more with that as we go along.
09:05But, again, very unfortunate situation.
09:07And I hope that, you know, justice is delivered in those circumstances.
09:12And, of course, anyone in a domestic situation that we ask, that anyone, if you know, that you step in,
09:17interview, and give them the help that is needed.
09:20That's correct.
09:21Because domestic violence does not discriminate against class, read, or anyone in society.
09:25So if you know of anyone, please try and assist them as best as you can.
09:30Now, you mentioned parenting.
09:31Yes.
09:31And today was a special day because there was a parenting seminar that took place.
09:36Can you tell us a little bit more what took place there?
09:38Well, we have a national parenting seminar launch in Trinidad and Tobago that will commence on Friday.
09:45Okay.
09:45And Whitney, may I say that coming out of the symposium, starting with you, you were one who called for
09:50action coming out of the symposium.
09:53Like every other stakeholder who would have attended or who would have heard about it.
09:56When I give an undertaking with the stakeholders that we are serious about taking actions, this is evidence of it
10:02in terms of this launch with reference to the first area, parenting.
10:06We know that every sector of the society, and I spoke about it a short while ago, demonstrated the importance
10:12of parenting in Trinidad and Tobago, especially to be able to guide our nation's youths, our vulnerable youths, our children,
10:18generally speaking.
10:20So the Honourable Minister of Homeland Security and the Executive of the Ministry of Homeland Security and the Policy and
10:26Community Support Office with the National Parent Teachers Association, the Trinidad and Tobago Association of Psychologists, and the Trinidad and
10:34Tobago Association of Social Workers,
10:35in conjunction with the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of Social Development, the Children's Authority of Trinidad and Tobago and
10:41other significant stakeholders, have taken a decision, a very strategic decision, to launch our parenting workshop.
10:47And I just want to hover over some very important words on that particular parenting seminar.
10:52Empowering and supporting parents, and I want to hammer that.
10:55But this is a seminar that we recognize that, like any other profession, Whitney, the parents, they have a very
11:02important and significant duties, both enshrined in law and just based on being human beings who are given the opportunity
11:12to bear kids.
11:14Very important, both male and female, we are speaking in this context, and, you know, if we were to go
11:19back to that particular flyer, you'll recognize that they're very important words, and thank you, Jackie, building resilience.
11:27A very important word that we are hearing a lot about, resilience, because we recognize there will be a lot
11:32of issues that may be affecting parents, and we are looking to ensure that while we may not be able
11:36to give everything,
11:37we must recognize that we must recognize that we need to be resilient in situations and not throw our hands
11:41into the air and appreciate our responsibility and promoting the holistic development of the child for a safe and secure
11:47family, and this is important here, the educational environment.
11:50So if Trinidad and Tobago are looking at this particular seminar, this seminar is multi-sectoral and multi-purpose to
11:56ensure that the home, the school, the community is being targeted in this seminar.
12:02And may I say that the Honorable Minister of Homeland Security, since weekend with me, have been in his various
12:08engagements together with the other ministries, speaking about this launch, and this is one of a series of seminars across
12:16Trinidad and Tobago, and I say Trinidad and Tobago, and we are going according to the educational district.
12:22So parents who are listening, who require that assistance, we are going to have the social workers, the psychologists, we
12:28are going to have the doctors, we are going to have lawyers, we are going to have different professionals in
12:33Trinidad and Tobago coming together to hold the hands of a very important institution, in my view, the parents and
12:40the caregivers, whether you be guardian, legal guardians, or persons with the responsibility for the child.
12:44And this is just one of the first statements that we are making coming out of the symposium.
12:49There are a number of other areas that we are going to be impacting, and I distinctly recall speaking to
12:55the Homeland Minister, where we are going to be very heavy on crime prevention initiatives.
13:01We have said that we cannot arrest, charge, and shoot our way out of the situation.
13:05And I want to repeat that.
13:07We cannot arrest, charge, and shoot our way out of the situation.
13:10It is clear that we are facing an uphill task with reference to crime and criminality.
13:15We are using some of the most elite powers under the Constitution in terms of the state of emergency, but
13:20it must be complemented with very strong prevention measures.
13:22And I want to salute the Honourable Minister of Homeland Security, the Minister of Education, and the Minister of Social
13:27Development for responding positively to ensure that these seminars, these symposiums, are executed and executed so that the people who
13:38really require it will benefit from it.
13:40And later in the program, we may get another perspective.
13:43But thank you for the opportunity to be able to promote and identify that we are serious about action and
13:50things that came out of the symposium in Trinidad and Tobago, and we are calling on the citizenry to make
13:56use of the opportunity.
13:57So, parents, do not be afraid to leave your home and come to the location.
14:01It's one of a series, so if you do not get into this one, look for the others that are
14:05coming within your educational district, and let's get help.
14:08And it would not stop there.
14:09All right, so it's on this Friday at Trinity East College.
14:13If you want to know the location, please show up.
14:16Even though you may have some experience, you may be able to learn something new and also pass on your
14:21knowledge as well.
14:23Now, I want to dive into a situation that took place where the TTPS released a media release where a
14:31female passenger was held with cocaine and cash at the airport.
14:35Now, a female passenger held with cocaine and cash at the airport, a woman attempting to travel to send kits
14:41abroad, that is, at a Caribbean Airlines flight this week, has been arrested for possession of cocaine and a quantity
14:50of cash.
14:51Now, the officers observed when they were scanning that the search conducted in a room allegedly discovered a pink balloon
15:01strapped around her waist containing 17 pallets containing a total of 281.5 grams of cocaine.
15:11Further checks of the woman's carry-on bag led to the discovery of a U.S. $5,189 and $30
15:19TT.
15:20The woman was arrested in connection with the fines and investigations are ongoing.
15:26Well, Whitney, thank you very much for reading that as well.
15:28And, you know, from a crime and criminality context, looking at transnational crime, because what that crime, if the crime
15:35was not detected, you have dangerous drugs in one jurisdiction through the conduit of a human being to go to
15:42another location or locations as the case may be.
15:44So we have seen an element of organized crime.
15:47But something is significant for me there in terms of where persons still believe, and this was going through a
15:52lawful port.
15:53Correct.
15:54Still believe that they can challenge the process.
15:56And this is a salient call for my law enforcement brothers and sisters across the agencies, whether it be the
16:01TTPS, whether it be the various arms of TTPS, special branch, the special investigations unit, the customs department, and other
16:11law enforcement agencies, even immigration to a certain extent.
16:13That is important for us to recognize that society is fighting this monster.
16:19And persons still believe that they can chance their hand in relation to even the lawful ports of Trinidad and
16:24Tobago.
16:24So it's important for us to, you know, lift our game, exercise due diligence.
16:28And I want to salute the police officers who made this detection because that, and when you're speaking dangerous drugs,
16:34we know that within the last couple of months, the focus that was given in relation to the eradication and
16:39stopping the flow of dangerous drugs in Trinidad and Tobago.
16:42So once it becomes very, once it's restrained, persons are going to be testing and challenging the processes.
16:49So it's important for us continuously.
16:50I always said, Whitney, that you don't have a good day and call it a good summer.
16:56You don't have a good day of rain and call it a rainy season.
16:59So it's important for us to be consistent in our delivery and in our engagement in everything that we do.
17:05Hence why when I spoke about the parenting seminar, you don't hear about a seminar, but you hear about a
17:10seminar, which is part of a series of seminars to ensure that there's consistency.
17:15And I also ended by indicating that coming out of those seminars, you may see a need to do more
17:20focused engagement.
17:22For example, in the meeting today that I attended, one of the directors of the Ministry of Social Development spoke
17:29about the parents who may be having to deal with children who may be differently able, which calls a more
17:34specialized engagement and skills from a physical, from a psychosocial context and otherwise.
17:40So I think that it's important for us to really recognize that crime fighting, a good country, prosperity in a
17:46country is more than just the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service to be able to deal with these issues.
17:51It's a societal issue and we all must take the responsibility to play our role.
17:56All right. It's time for your SOE update.
17:58As of today, April 8th, 2026.
18:02Number of operations, 3,173.
18:05Number of targets, priority offenders, 1,089.
18:10Searches conducted, 1,973.
18:14Traffic operations, 1,754.
18:17Total persons arrested, 1,329.
18:21Total persons charged, 289.
18:26Firearms recovered, we're seeing a total of 83.
18:29Ammunition recovered, a total of 1,904.
18:34And dangerous drug sees, we're seeing increase once again with the cannabis, Ms. Ali.
18:39And, you know, Whitney, as I said, every time I look at these statistics that you're reading and looking at
18:43the dose in red that Jackie has highlighted,
18:45you know, you're showing the incremental gains coming out of the state of emergency.
18:49And, you know, it must always be applauded.
18:51You know, one gun is one gun less in the society.
18:55And it's important to salute the work of all the officers, you know, and even most importantly, the citizenry.
19:00You know, they are the unsung heroes that most of the fine normally come from credible intelligence, whether it's true
19:06or anonymous or otherwise.
19:08And the citizenry must also be commended and saluted for that.
19:12When you look at those 39 pistols, Whitney, that's by way of reference, because I like to be critical with
19:15these statistics.
19:16Yes.
19:16If you multiply that, for example, you see between $7,000 and $8,000 for a pistol.
19:22And I'm seeing that, and it could even be more in a situation where there's...
19:26In the black market.
19:27That's correct.
19:28You just multiply this.
19:29Let's go look 40 and 40 by 6.
19:31That is 0, 6 or 0, 6 or 24 to 40.
19:34And, you know, we look at the kind of value that you're talking about, $240,000 plus, with reference to
19:40the pistols.
19:40And, you know, also we go across the revolver.
19:42So a lot of value involved as well in reference to when you're looking at the firearms, looking at the
19:47ammunition, and looking at the dangerous drugs, you know, that you have just read.
19:50So, you know, I salute the police officers.
19:53And let's go back just to the previous slide.
19:56You see the area of traffic operation, 1,754.
20:01Now, Whitney, tell me, where are we looking at traffic operations?
20:04Do we...
20:05Should we really be exerting that level of energy on our nation's road when the persons who are in charge
20:10of vehicles are supposed to be responsible so that we don't have having to do 1,754 operations just to
20:18ensure that there's some level of compliance?
20:20On the road, yeah.
20:21Why it is as a society that only when we are, you know, you see police officers or you see
20:27licensing officers, transit police officers, you know, that now we are looking to get in line.
20:31Let us understand that our life is more...
20:34Our life, it works more with children, our family, and that is an area that, you know, the officers who
20:41are doing operations could be directed to other serious criminal activities that we are seeing in Trinidad and Tobago.
20:46So, please, let us appreciate it.
20:48Let us appreciate the effort of law enforcement, and I, you know, I applaud them this afternoon.
20:53Right now, let's take a look at what's making today's headlines.
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24:35Welcome back to Beyond the Tape, and it's Legally Speaking Wednesdays.
24:39Now, we have our attorney at law and our director as well, Mr. Ali.
24:43And we spoke when we opened the show when it came to a parenting seminar.
24:47Now, there's usually no blueprint, there's no guideline, there's no manual when it comes to parenting
24:53that we could go in a bookstore and pick up a book and say, how could I become an amazing
24:57parent?
24:58Most of us learn from our parents or grandparents, and we pass it on to what we know to our
25:03children.
25:04But sometimes that does not work.
25:06Now, we have a specialist here with us that will discuss more when we get ready for the seminar
25:11that is on on Friday at Trinity East College.
25:14And we'd like to welcome on the line right now, Mr. Walter Stewart,
25:18who is the president of the National Parents Teachers Association
25:22and one of the key collaborators when it comes to the seminar of empowering and supporting parents
25:27and other caregivers.
25:29Good evening to you, Mr. Stewart.
25:32Good evening and good evening to your viewership.
25:35I'm very happy to be on your set.
25:37Yes, thank you so much for taking the time to be here with us this evening.
25:41As we move forward, this is a great opportunity for a lot of parents who are listening right now,
25:46and we want to let you, you know, speak to what will be happening on Friday.
25:50So why is this parenting seminar so important, Mr. Stewart?
25:55And again, thank you very much.
25:57Good evening to you, Mr. Ali, as well.
25:59Good evening to you.
25:59As you rightly said, parenting carries no manual with it.
26:06All of us would have learned from our parents, our grandparents, the neighbor next door,
26:10as it were, as to how to parent.
26:12Because parenting shapes the very foundation of the child,
26:16and I might say parenting is an asset to national development as well.
26:21Because if you want to get a better society, a better school of that, and Tobago,
26:26it certainly starts in the home.
26:28And it starts with how we as parents parent our charges, parent our young ones.
26:33We are fully aware that the home is the first classroom.
26:36We have also put ourselves as parents as the first teachers.
26:40And as such, this seminar is important because it will help to guide us as parents
26:45to ensure that our parenting is more intentional, our parenting is more informed,
26:50and our parenting is far more effective to be able to raise responsible citizens of Trinidad and Tobago.
26:59Yes.
26:59Mr. Stewart, why now?
27:01Why is it so important that we do this now compared to maybe 20 years ago, 30 years ago?
27:08Are we seeing a change where the parenting style has changed?
27:11Too much influences that are not guiding our children now?
27:15Listen, two words, digital challenges.
27:21Because we are all aware that 23 years ago we were not faced with the digital world that we are
27:27now living in.
27:28And because of the conversion or because of the transformation of this society
27:34where the digital world is almost taking over everything we do and say,
27:38it is important that our parenting styles, our parenting models are shifting
27:43to be able to accommodate for the taking place in the digital space
27:47and be able to help our children as well when it comes to navigating the complexes of the digital world.
27:54In addition to which, of course, there are so many social challenges that we as parents face with our children,
27:59in the community, in the home, even in our churches or mosques or mandeos,
28:04and certainly in the classroom.
28:06And I felt the parenting styles of 20, 30 years ago must shift because of accommodate
28:12and facilitate what we are seeing in the modern world today.
28:18And, of course, by being proactive, being proactive,
28:22it is going to help us to be able to chart that course going forward.
28:27Mr. Stewart, you made a very important point
28:29and you conjuncted it what Whitney would have indicated
28:32in terms of looking at the increase in terms of the influences we are seeing
28:37in terms of, and you spoke about the digital age, very significant social media.
28:41My simple question to you this afternoon is that coming out of this seminar,
28:45what do you hope to achieve?
28:46And I say you meaning plural, the key stakeholders that are coming to execute this seminar.
28:51What do you all hope to achieve and what should the citizenry of Trinidad and Tobago expect
28:56in moving forward?
28:58Very good question indeed.
29:00We want, when we leave this seminar on Friday,
29:04to be more informed and more confident.
29:08We are supposed to understand and appreciate that our parenting
29:12is going to make a definite impact on our children, on our community,
29:17and, of course, as I said before, on the nation of Trinidad and Tobago.
29:20So we are more informed, more enlightened, more aware
29:24of our roles, responsibilities, duties, and tasks as parents.
29:28And that will make us more confident, more effective parents.
29:31Yes.
29:32Understanding our role.
29:33Mr. Stewart, before we wrap things up,
29:36I know you have heard this in children making children, right?
29:39Yes.
29:40And usually this is something that many persons who have had experience with raising children
29:45and they see their children prosper and do great things.
29:48They're seeing that they're going on the wayside because of the young ones who are now having children.
29:52What would you say to the young ones who may be listening
29:54and in a situation where they were pregnant at a very young age
29:58and including the fathers who have to know father at a teenage stage?
30:04And what we are saying to them is that it's not the end of the world.
30:07Many of us, Ms. Whitney, have made mistakes in life
30:11and we want to be able to pick up the pieces and continue to move on.
30:15So it's not the end of the world.
30:16What we have to know is to partner with our spouses
30:19or partner with your significant other
30:22in the benefit and interest of the child.
30:24Raise this child up, and I want to be biblical here,
30:27in the way of the Lord as well and be able to chart the child's future
30:31even though, as it were, you have had this child at a very young age.
30:36And speaking about youth as well and children who are making children,
30:41one of our recommendations as well is to even get into the antenatal care
30:45of these expectant mothers and their significant others, their spouses,
30:50to be able to guide them because making a child
30:53of bringing a child into this world is something that is significant.
30:57And if we are able to guide them, guide the mother,
31:00even while the child is in the womb,
31:02we are going to be able to be confident and assured
31:05of better children and better citizens of Finland and Tobago.
31:08Yes, thank you so much, Mr. Stuart.
31:09Anything you would like to say before we close off?
31:12Just to encourage those who are viewing and listening,
31:15the place to be on Friday at 8 a.m. is at the Trinity College East
31:21for our parenting seminar.
31:23You can submit your name and your numbers to myself.
31:27My number is 682-6832.
31:30If you want to be registered and be a part of this seminar, again, 682-6832,
31:36and we'll be more than happy to welcome you at this great launch.
31:39Let me thank as well the PACSO Policy and Community Support Office,
31:45led by the Director who is in front of you,
31:46who is there with you along your side,
31:48for having the faith and confidence in us
31:51as members of the National Council of Parents Teachers Association
31:54and partnering with us to ensure that this initiative is a reality.
31:59Thank you very much, Mr. Ashley.
32:01Thank you very much, Ms. Whitney.
32:03Yes, thank you so much, Mr. Waters.
32:05Sure, that was the President of the National Parents Teachers Association
32:08and, of course, one of the key collaborators for this seminar taking place on Friday.
32:13Mr. Ali, this is a moment where many parents need to really show up and show out
32:18because it will guide you and things that may be troubling for some of your parents.
32:23Well, Whitney, before you introduce Mr. Stewart,
32:26I love the way that you build the context with reference to this parenting.
32:31And, you know, when you basically did a comparison for us some years ago and now,
32:37and, you know, and I made the point as well that if you look at many professions
32:43or maybe slash occupation, you realize that there's some training
32:47that must be administered to ensure that you'll be able to function properly.
32:51And if we are seeing so many influences around social media, the digital age,
32:57crime and criminality, vulnerable communities,
33:00it is even more important to recognize that this area of parenting,
33:06while there may be, you know, little pockets that persons are trying,
33:10and I salute those who are trying in their different pockets
33:12and parents who are really making an effort, but it must be a formal approach.
33:17It must be formal and structured.
33:19And I'm happy that the NPTA president spoke about even going into the,
33:23looking at it from the womb of the parent
33:25and looking at both father and mother,
33:27so that, you know, you're starting to appreciate
33:29what you are bringing into the world.
33:30And you are blessed,
33:32because many persons would love the opportunity to have a biological child,
33:35but don't.
33:36So those who have children must appreciate and understand
33:40that you have been given a gift,
33:41and you must be able to treat that gift that God has given you.
33:44And those who don't have, who have the opportunity to play a guardian role
33:48or a place of responsibility,
33:50also embrace that opportunity,
33:52because you are basically nurturing the dignity of a human being,
33:57for God knows what contribution that that child or children will be making.
34:02Perhaps it may be that you are touching a child,
34:05whether directly or indirectly,
34:07that might just be doing a heart surgery to save your life.
34:10Yeah.
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37:21Welcome, Mark.
37:22It's the Giddy Speaking Wednesdays.
37:23We get ready to head to the phone night.
37:24Remember, you can give us a call
37:25at 623-1711-1996-1997.
37:30We have a caller.
37:31Caller, good evening.
37:32Good evening.
37:33Good evening, ma'am.
37:33Yes.
37:35You will dress,
37:36you will plan your colors or what?
37:37You will look good.
37:38You plan your colors or good evening.
37:41Of you, ma'am.
37:43Great minds think alike.
37:45Yes.
37:47Officer,
37:48concerning the appointment of the 7th of July,
37:50I think that is a real, real cross.
37:52You know why?
37:53I read where they're saying
37:54that they have, you know,
37:56develop illegal expertise
37:57and public experience
38:00and stuff like that.
38:01And I know the more people you have it,
38:04I hope that, you know,
38:06the cases will be get called
38:07and they will be able to get sister justice.
38:10I think that is the way it should help
38:12because there's more.
38:12You have more.
38:13I think that's important.
38:14That is the way it gets sister justice
38:16because you have more people to use.
38:18The second point is,
38:20Officer,
38:21if anyone exempted
38:22from wearing of the seatbelt,
38:24the reason I'm asking,
38:25like police officer,
38:27if anyone exempted
38:28from wearing seatbelt,
38:30that's my second point.
38:31The third point is concerning the accident.
38:33It's so, so, so, so fast.
38:35And what,
38:36we really, really need prayer.
38:38Prayer, we really need prayer.
38:39People who are supposed to be
38:40check their vehicles
38:41to make sure they're roadworthy.
38:43Stop drinking and driving, etc.
38:45Stop smoking, whatever.
38:46Stop using your phone.
38:48Some of these people
38:48say yesterday,
38:49use them the phone.
38:50And you have not a mind
38:51your business when they're driving.
38:53If you're sleepy,
38:54don't drive.
38:55Ask somebody, etc.
38:56Because I remember,
38:57I shall understand
38:58that I've trapped with somebody
38:59and he looks like he's sleepy.
39:01I'll say,
39:01driver, what if they can't help you?
39:02He told me nothing.
39:03And by the time we reach down,
39:04I'll say,
39:05driver, you go straight home
39:06because you look like
39:07you're very sleepy.
39:08My last point is concerning
39:09that person.
39:11If they're doing mixed
39:11and I look bad,
39:12I really dropped.
39:13The machine will pick up
39:15with you from that
39:15going through the...
39:16If they're doing
39:17machine will pick up with you.
39:18Apart from having drugs,
39:20you have so much
39:21you have money to want to...
39:23I know,
39:23something that is
39:24really mixed in there
39:25and people look bad.
39:26But I want to say
39:27God bless all of you
39:29and be safe all of you.
39:30But you already planned
39:31with those colors.
39:32You see,
39:32very, very lovely.
39:35Thank you so much
39:35and be safe all of you.
39:37Thank you very, very much.
39:38Yes.
39:38Ms. Ali.
39:38Thank you very much,
39:39Colin.
39:39I want to thank you
39:40for the compliment.
39:41Well, Whitney,
39:41I don't know if you
39:41are going to take
39:42that compliment on me
39:44because she said
39:45that we share
39:45some commonality
39:46this afternoon.
39:47So I don't know
39:47if you were looking at me
39:48or you had intelligence
39:50or vice versa.
39:51Well, you know,
39:51intelligence is something
39:53that is very sensitive.
39:54Yes.
39:55So we can't reveal that.
39:56But they say that blue,
39:57you know,
39:58when I was younger.
39:58Blue, blue, God loves you.
39:59That's correct.
40:00Blue, blue, God loves you.
40:00So, you know,
40:01thank you very much,
40:01Colin, for your kind comments
40:02as usual.
40:03I don't know whether
40:04Jackie's wearing blue as well.
40:05Maybe.
40:06Okay.
40:06So we'll have to check that.
40:07But, you know,
40:08thank you very much
40:08for your submission as always.
40:10You know,
40:11we have spoken about the judges.
40:12It's always good for an injection
40:14in a system sometimes, Whitney.
40:15Yeah.
40:16An injection of a human resource
40:17with some energy,
40:18some drive,
40:19a different perspective.
40:20And I have already saluted
40:20the Honorable Chief Justice
40:22and members of his executive
40:23and the legal service commission
40:27for the appointment of the judges.
40:28I want to, you know,
40:29recognize that as well.
40:30And I wish those judges well
40:32and, you know,
40:33ask them to understand
40:34the very important responsibility
40:36that resides with them.
40:38With reference to the seatbelt issue,
40:40I want to say that,
40:42and I want to be very careful
40:43with this here.
40:44In the,
40:45from my recollection,
40:45if someone has a medical certificate
40:48in relation to seatbelts,
40:50they may be exempted
40:51if they have a medical certificate
40:52that is recognized.
40:54Yeah.
40:54And I'm not speaking
40:55for the long matters here.
40:56I'm speaking a legitimate
40:58medical certificate
40:59that shows that
41:00wearing seatbelt may be
41:02a prejudice to you
41:03in terms of your health.
41:04I know some time ago
41:05there was a directive
41:06in reference to
41:07law enforcement officers
41:08who are on duty
41:08with reference to
41:09wearing the seatbelt
41:10because they are carrying firearms,
41:11they are in hot pursuit.
41:12But I want to be very careful
41:13with that
41:14because I don't want to open
41:15a Pandora box
41:16but I will have to engage
41:17through the Honourable Minister
41:19of Homeland Security
41:20and by extension
41:21the Commissioner of Police
41:22and the Licensing Division
41:24from a policy context
41:25to really get
41:26a deeper understanding
41:27as to that directive
41:29and the impact
41:31of that directive.
41:32So I just want to just
41:34exercise a little caution
41:35there in terms of
41:36law enforcement officers
41:38but medical certificates,
41:40that is a given
41:42and I think she made
41:43two other points
41:44well you know
41:45I think those points
41:46are self-explanatory.
41:46So she was just
41:46most of the state
41:47that she was making
41:49but I mean common sense
41:50if I have a big piece of fire
41:51and metal in front of me
41:53and I'm on pursuit
41:54now it is your
41:56prerogative
41:57to make sure you wear
41:57a seatbelt
41:58for your safety
41:59in case of anything happening
42:00but in that moment
42:02I mean they're on duty
42:03doing their job
42:04it is not that
42:05they're just willingly
42:06breaking the law
42:07just like that.
42:08I think if the officers
42:08will have to wear
42:09their seatbelt
42:10they will wear it
42:10but if they are engaging
42:12in a matter where
42:12they have to remove
42:13the seatbelt
42:14it will have to happen
42:15but as you said
42:15it's sensitive.
42:16Very sensitive
42:17and you know
42:17I don't want to go into it
42:18because it will call
42:19for some deep legal discussions
42:20and I don't think
42:21it would be appropriate
42:22on this platform
42:23to be able to
42:23further dissect it
42:24but it's a very good point
42:25that you have raised
42:26and I'll give you
42:27your undertaking
42:27and I'm going to look at it
42:28to ensure that
42:29there's justification
42:30or there's balance
42:31whether you wear it
42:33or whether you don't wear it
42:34from a law enforcement context
42:35and if so
42:36whether the correct processes
42:37are adopted
42:38to give effect it.
42:39Understood.
42:39We take that break
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45:47We have a caller on the line
45:48Caller, good evening
45:51Hello
45:53Hello, good evening, Mr. Zwan
45:54Good evening to you, sir
45:56And a very good evening to the director
45:59Good evening to you, sir
46:00Sir, I hope you don't shoulder arms this evening
46:06With what I'm doing at you
46:08Corporate manslaughter
46:10It was a term bandied about
46:13During the
46:14There were four divers lost their lives
46:18During the commission of inquiry
46:24Easter Wednesday
46:25Sorry, Easter Sunday
46:27I believe
46:28There was an accident
46:30In San Fernando
46:32During the cycling
46:33Thing somewhere
46:35In San Fernando
46:36The new
46:37That's open
46:38Right?
46:39Skinner's Park
46:40I saw a video
46:43And there are a lot of questions
46:45That have been throwing up
46:46Into my mind
46:48At that failure incident
46:50I don't believe
46:51From my advantage
46:52And the police
46:53Instated themselves
46:55To give us
46:57A view of what had happened there
46:58Likewise
47:00Immediately
47:01After the incident happened
47:03You hear the medics come in
47:06I want to know
47:07If that
47:09Is a criminal
47:11Or corporate negligence
47:12Because we have an organization
47:14The cycling federation
47:16I believe
47:17Is responsible
47:19For that
47:19That incident
47:21Now
47:22I don't know
47:23If it's a homicide
47:24I don't know
47:25If it's an accidental death
47:26But some
47:27Organization
47:29And I believe
47:30If the TTPS
47:31Should have inserted
47:32Themselves
47:33To determine
47:35If that
47:36Was a crime
47:37See it
47:38Caught me too
47:38Because immediately
47:39After they moved
47:40The man off
47:41They started back it
47:43And what I look
47:44Into the video
47:45The lighting was poor
47:47And the accident
47:48Happened
47:48In a shadowed area
47:50So I don't know
47:51And I'm
47:52Conspiracy theory
47:53If the shoulder
47:54The man
47:54Or something
47:55Was wrong
47:55With the thing
47:55And it
47:56Hit a word
47:57It requires
47:58A very
47:59Very deep
47:59Investigation
48:00And it's no fear
48:01All right
48:02Thank you
48:03Thank you very much
48:04Caller
48:04Caller
48:05I would not
48:05Shoulder arms
48:06This but I will
48:06Hit this straight
48:07Out of the park
48:09And the reason
48:10I'm saying
48:11I'm going to
48:11Hit this straight
48:11Out of the park
48:12I'll say that
48:13In the legal
48:14Framework
48:14Of the
48:15Police service
48:16Any death
48:18Or circumstances
48:19Surround any death
48:20Should be
48:21Attracted
48:22In an investigation
48:22To be able
48:24To determine
48:24That is not
48:25In fact
48:26An act
48:27That has
48:27Criminality
48:28Or an intention
48:30To commit
48:31An act
48:31Of
48:32To commit
48:33A crime
48:33I should say
48:35And that
48:36Goes in the
48:36Context
48:37You use
48:37A very
48:37Important
48:37In terms
48:38Of negligence
48:39And you're
48:39Looking at
48:39Manslaughter
48:40As well
48:40Those are
48:41Very significant
48:41Matters
48:42And that
48:42Couples
48:42In terms
48:43Of what
48:43I'm
48:43In terms
48:44Of
48:44Investigating
48:45To be able
48:45To rule
48:46Out
48:46That there
48:47Was no
48:47Criminal
48:48Intent
48:48Whether
48:49Through
48:49Intentional
48:50Killing
48:51Negligence
48:51Or
48:51Recklessness
48:52And the
48:53Police
48:53Should be
48:55Excited
48:56To ensure
48:56That they
48:57Place the
48:58Public
48:59In the
48:59No
49:00In terms
49:00Of those
49:00Circumstances
49:01And if
49:02There are
49:02Any other
49:03Cause of
49:03Action
49:03That may
49:04Be
49:04Available
49:04In those
49:04Circumstances
49:05Well the
49:05Parties
49:06The
49:06Families
49:06You know
49:07They have
49:07Their recourse
49:08Accordingly
49:08But very
49:09Significant
49:09Point that
49:10You have
49:10Made
49:10And it's
49:11In
49:11Minimum
49:12In the
49:13Standing
49:13Orders
49:14Of the
49:14Police
49:14Service
49:15So I
49:15Expect
49:15That the
49:17Citizenry
49:18Through you
49:19Making a
49:19Call this
49:20Afternoon
49:20If there's
49:21No
49:21Investigation
49:21You have
49:22Just hinted
49:23To the
49:24Hierarchy
49:24Of the
49:25Police
49:25Service
49:25And by
49:25Extension
49:26That
49:26Particular
49:26Division
49:26That they
49:27Should be
49:27Looking
49:28To ensure
49:28That they
49:29Rule out
49:30Any act
49:31Of
49:31Criminality
49:31But thank
49:32You very
49:32Much for
49:32Your
49:32Participation
49:33And I
49:34Hope that
49:34You are
49:35Able to
49:35Recover
49:36The ball
49:36That has
49:36Just been
49:37Hit
49:37Out of
49:37The
49:38Park
49:38All
49:38Right
49:38We
49:39Have
49:39Another
49:39Caller
49:39Caller
49:40Good
49:40Evening
49:42Hello
49:42Good
49:43Evening
49:43Hi
49:43Good
49:43Evening
49:44Mom
49:44Good
49:45Evening
49:45Ms. Husbands
49:46Good
49:46Evening
49:46Mr. Ali
49:47Good
49:47Evening
49:48To
49:48You
49:48Mom
49:48I
49:49Just
49:49Wanted
49:49To
49:49Make
49:49A
49:50Statement
49:50About
49:50The
49:50Symposium
49:51You are
49:51Having
49:52For
49:52Parents
49:52Yes
49:53In
49:53Reference
49:54To
49:54Children
49:54I
49:54Think
49:55It's
49:55A
49:55Beautiful
49:55Initiative
49:56I
49:57Just
49:57Want
49:57To
49:57Make
49:58A
49:58Small
49:58Contribution
49:59I
49:59Think
49:59There
50:00Should
50:00Be
50:00More
50:00Symposium
50:01And
50:02Also
50:02Classes
50:04Mandatory
50:04You
50:04Know
50:05Not
50:05Just
50:05Expecting
50:06Them
50:06To
50:06Come
50:06Out
50:06Either
50:07Like
50:07Underage
50:08Mothers
50:08For
50:09Children
50:10For
50:10Parents
50:11Who
50:11Are
50:11In
50:11Domestic
50:12Violence
50:13Maybe
50:14Symposiums
50:14And
50:14Classes
50:15Can
50:15Be
50:15Done
50:15For
50:16That
50:16Or
50:16If
50:17Your
50:17Child
50:17Is
50:17Down
50:18Bullying
50:18In
50:18The
50:18Schools
50:19They
50:19Should
50:20Have
50:21Mandatory
50:22Symposiums
50:22And
50:23Classes
50:24Where
50:24It's
50:24Mandatory
50:25That
50:25They
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