00:00How important is receiver to evaluate this team? When we first started talking about
00:03Shador Sanders in 2026, one of the reasons why I said, take a receiver, take an offensive lineman,
00:08I'm trying to give gifts to Shador Sanders. That's the main point. I was trying to help
00:12out the 2026 team. They don't seem like they're that interested in wins for this upcoming year,
00:17and so that's why I've moved off of the only take offense take, and it's like, all right,
00:22do whatever you want. If you're not going to take 2026 serious, then I don't have to take
00:25it seriously either, okay? But if you're trying to help out Shador and you're trying to actually
00:30evaluate what Shador Sanders can be, then yes, wide receiver is one of the best gifts you can give
00:36him. I mean, I think, even forget about the Shador angle of it. I think it's necessary for whatever
00:41quarterback's going to be back there for the next, I mean, you can go as far as like five years.
00:45Well, so hold on. So to that point, this kind of works as a double-edged sword, right? Because if
00:51I'm going to help out Shador Sanders, I then also have to live in the world where I'm making the
00:56team better for Deshaun Watson. If Deshaun Watson wins and starts week one, you are a better team
01:02with Carnell Tate, with Tyson, with whoever wide receiver you take in number six overall,
01:07than in my opinion, if you take one of these defensive guys. I mean, I think you're a better
01:10team, but like you can't, your draft strategy cannot be punt the year, right? Like avoid taking
01:17good players to help out the guys you already have, because we're not trying to be good this year.
01:21I don't think it's, I don't think it's, I don't think it's punt on the year. I think it's take
01:24really good defensive players instead of taking offensive players. It's not putting yourself in
01:28a box is the idea. And so again, the concept is pretty, it's pretty simple at the heart of it.
01:34If you're trying for 2026, then you can fill up the needs and then you can understand that wide
01:38receiver, offensive line, any of these pieces work because again, you have holes that you need to
01:43plug. If you're not trying to win in 2026, then all of a sudden you're not concerned about
01:47plugging up the holes. You're just concerned about getting the very, very best football player you
01:51possibly can. I understand that side of it too, but this is where even the entire like defensive
01:56minded thing doesn't work for me is that one, we just want to watch the jets blow up their defense
02:00because they didn't have enough offense behind it. But like how many blue chippers, elite talents,
02:06are you going to stack on the defensive side of the ball while just completely ignoring the
02:10offense? Like at some point, the contracts come up. At some point you're paying multiple guys.
02:14Like people will point to the Eagles. I'm like, Oh, look at the, they drafted Jordan Davis when
02:17they already had defensive tackle figured out. Well, yeah, because they made up in their mind,
02:21we're not going to pay one of these guys. And Jordan Davis will be the cheaper option
02:24in a year or two. Cause he'll still be on his rookie contract. You're not making that decision
02:28with any defensive player you're drafting right now, unless your cell is miles Garrett. And then even
02:33if miles played out his contract, you'd have one year of overlap where it's like, Oh, I get a cheap
02:37defensive end for a year. You're not doing that. You're just stacking defensive talent guys. You
02:41eventually have to pay putting all of your resources there. And in turn, ignoring the
02:45offensive side of the ball completely. I don't know if anybody's paid attention to the NFL over
02:49the past 10 years. That's not how you win football games ever. Well, and so I, I am very pro
02:54the idea
02:55of going offense as hard as you possibly can. Like that's why there's no part that bothers me about
02:59going offense. It's been my preferred destination for, I don't know, three months and us talking about
03:04this where I've relented and said, okay, fine. You want to go defenses again, because they're not
03:09going to care about 2026. Well then the, the, if you take a wide receiver, it's not going to matter
03:13the same way as if you take a, if you think Caleb Downs is that much better of a player
03:17than it is
03:18what it is. I hate that these words are coming out of my mouth because it makes it seem like
03:22I don't
03:22care. And it's very lackadaisical and I get it, but this is the corner they put me into. If you're
03:27not going to care about 2026, then why am I going to care to try to fix 2026 for you?
03:32I'll see you in
03:332027. And then we can have conversations about filling up the holes and fixing everything. But I do think
03:38what Derek Carr and David Carr are trying to say does have some merit to it. If you can't field
03:44anything resembling a real offense in the NFL, then how am I supposed to take an evaluation of
03:51Shador Sanders or Deshaun Watson serious? It's also the same problem we had last year and trying to
03:57evaluate Dylan or Shador. It wasn't a good enough roster around them. What were we supposed to do
04:01with that? It was nothing, right? We said, I mean, at some point we obviously, there were caveats for
04:06Shador and I think a lot of us even gave those caveats to Dylan. Now it wasn't good because he
04:11made some really bad throws, but it was also like, well, yeah, I mean, even on the days where
04:14he was looking better, he still didn't have good enough receivers if he was making the right
04:18decisions. So there's that side of it. But also this is a year where you have two first round picks.
04:23This is a year where you have what? Five picks inside like the top 107 or whatever it is.
04:27You got a lot of picks. So like you're not going to have that, at least as it stands right
04:32now in
04:322027. Like just ignoring the fact that you can get a really good offensive player and add to that
04:38side of the ball is like, if you're telling me you don't care about 2026, not drafting offense in this
04:42in the top of the draft, whether that be at 24 or six, like I can make some concessions to
04:4724
04:48is telling me that you don't care about the team in 2027 because where are you getting a receiver
04:52from? Well, you either get it in the free agency or the 2027 NFL draft. Like you don't have a
04:56first
04:57round pick. You can get it anywhere. It's what's not as if Carnell Tate is like, can't miss. That's the
05:00problem I have in this. Like if Carnell Tate was Odell Beckham Jr., I think we'd all be right
05:05there with you. The problem I'm having is that Carnell Tate is projected to be T. Higgins. That's
05:09good. That's not great. At number six overall, that's good. That's not great. Tyson comes with
05:13a bunch of injuries and we've already talked about how we don't like Makai Lemon between the two of
05:17us. Like the problem I had is that when we initially started talking about all this, it was we had
05:21six
05:22different offensive linemen that would justify being taken over as number six overall. And we had three
05:27different wide receivers that everybody seemed like they were comfortable taking. Now we've done
05:31the research on it. Now we've done the homework on it. And the conclusion is you got T. Higgins
05:36at number six overall. Like, it's just, it's not can't miss to me. It's not something that is a
05:42coach for is always says game changers. That's not a game changer. That's just, that's a guy I can pick
05:46up on the street for a better cost than what the six overall pick is. But at number six, you
05:51don't
05:51have game changers like Caleb down. Sure. Like whatever defensive player slips through the top
05:56five, it will be a game. Well, this is why I've opened up the idea to Jeremiah love. Like Jeremiah
06:00love is one of the highest rated running backs we've seen in years. He's up there with Saquon.
06:05He's up there with gente. Like, like there's a real game changer there. And if he comes, if he's there
06:09at six, then I think we have to explore that option. Like I, it's not that I want to ignore
06:14wide
06:14receiver. I don't, I've been campaigning for them to take a wide receiver or offensive lineman
06:18for so long in this draft, just understanding where we are and the direction that I think
06:24they're going. And that's the part that's changed for me in this. When I thought they
06:28were being serious about 2026, then I wanted to fill up the holes. Now that I think they're
06:32serious about 2027 and taking a quarterback there. And really reality is then you're not
06:37really off and running until 2028 or 2029. Right. Then we're not really in that much of a hurry.
06:42Now where this sucks and this part of the conversation stinks is that it does not give
06:47Shador Sanders a true chance. If you don't take a wide receiver, cause they haven't signed
06:50anybody else and there's nobody else out there that would help shape this. And so that part
06:54is obviously a big blow to me. And then, uh, even within Deshaun, I don't want to, I don't
06:59want to give Deshaun a great chance to have success, but how do you evaluate, evaluate somebody
07:03if it's Jerry Judy and friends, as far as wide receivers concerned, that's where the
07:07Carnell Tate part becomes interesting for me because is it an elite wide receiver one?
07:11No, probably not. Right. I mean, we can say T Higgins. I don't know that the ceiling
07:15for Carnell Tate is legitimately T Higgins. He gets comped to T Higgins. It's like,
07:19well, what do you think it is the ceiling? Yeah. I mean, I think it's a wide receiver
07:23one in the NFL. I think it's a top 20 to 25 wide receiver. I was trying to see if
07:28it
07:28varied differently than like what I think. Cause I, I, I don't think we're too far off
07:31there. And like, if you were to tell me, you think he's a top five wide receiver
07:34or something, then that's a different conversation. Yeah. You know, like again, this is part
07:38of the problem is that in my own interpretation of Carnell Tate, I like him. I don't see
07:43anyone that is going to be top five one day. I don't see anybody that's going to be top
07:4610 one day. And so it's like, it's just, you're just riding that fine line is all that ends
07:50up being. I mean, it's still a good receiver. Like we've watched, I mean, take a look at
07:54the Denver Broncos who were a fine offense this year. What elite wide receiver do they
07:58have? They don't. Cortland Sutton is a good, he falls into that. Like, yeah, you're probably
08:02a wide receiver one, but you're like the bottom end of the, but they do have the one
08:05of, if not the best offensive line in the game. RJ Harvey was an absolute standout for
08:10them this year. Like they had a really pretty good, pretty good run game, all things considered.
08:14Like they had that offense had a lot of different pieces working for them. I mean, listen, everybody
08:18I'm not, we're comparing one of the better offenses in the NFL to what was statistically
08:22the worst offense in the NFL last year in the Cleveland. You brought up the comparison.
08:25I know, but I'm saying that you build out pieces in like, yeah, you have to get better
08:29on the offensive line. I think the run game's off to a really good start with what you
08:32have. I think Quinn Sean as well as Dylan Samson is a fine running back, like duo. But if
08:38I go out there and you want more evaluation, any attention off of Jerry Judy, if you take
08:42Carnell Tate, that is some attention off of Jerry Judy, even if they were equals and you
08:46looked at them as, oh, well, Carnell Tate's just a wide receiver too.
08:48He unquestionably helps. That's not the debate. He unquestionably helps. It's just is now the
08:54time that you have to do that. Is now the time where you're, you're looking at it and
08:58saying in order to make sure I can properly evaluate 2026, I need something more than Jerry
09:04Judy. And I, I think that's where I agree with David and Derek Carr is that you need
09:08to have better than Jerry Judy if you want a proper evaluation. But the part that makes
09:12this two different conversations is the idea that I can tell you, I need that for a proper
09:16evaluation. I can also tell you that I don't think the Browns care. I just don't think
09:21they care. I wish they did. I don't think they care about 2026 the way you and I care
09:25about 2026. And so if I'm not convinced that they care about what happens to Shador
09:29Sanders or what happens to Deshaun Watson, and they're looking at this as a free
09:33role of sorts. And if they can overcome all the obstacles, then we really have
09:38something, but we're not going to really help them out in the meanwhile.
09:40Well, then they're not going to be forced to do that. They're not going to take that
09:43and they're going to work. They're just, they'll just set it aside until they have
09:45to. I just think it's such a risk to know you have a guy there. You're not going to
09:49take him. Like, I think you're setting yourself up to be, even if you're drafting a
09:53quarterback in the first round next year, you're setting him up for failure to
09:55like, let's not act like Deshaun's not going to be on the roster. The money
09:59implications are still very real. Like it's not like the roster, the dead cap hit just
10:03went away. It's still in the, what, 50 millions in 2027, if not, is slightly higher
10:07than that. So it's not like you can just go and be like, oh, we're going to trade
10:11for a wide receiver one. No, the money still exists. Yeah. But the way they think, I
10:15almost wonder if they think to themselves, like, all right, Harold Fannin was a
10:17third round pick. We're going to take a wide receiver at 24 in Concepcion, and
10:20that's going to end up being what we do, you know, or we're going to take a wide
10:23receiver at 24 and 39, and that's how we're going to clear it up. I would tell them
10:26they have developmental problems that they've not been able to prove to me.
10:29They know what they're doing with wide receivers, but it's, it's at least a
10:32worthwhile discussion. And it's interesting how it all kind of unfolds.
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