00:00Andrew Barry spoke yesterday, and I'm not sure what people wanted, Daryl.
00:04I think people wanted an emphatic, you know, we are not trading Miles Garrett.
00:09Instead, they got a little bit of a danced-around version of that.
00:11This was Andrew Barry yesterday talking to the media. Here we go.
00:15Miles is a career brown. He is one of the faces of our organization.
00:20I think we've been very clear, both past and present, in terms of our feelings.
00:24So I understand all the questions. I'll be honest, I don't really want to waste a ton more breath on
00:29it.
00:29Okay, the not wasting a ton more breath thing I think is interesting, because it's like, Andrew, what more do
00:34you have to do?
00:35Like, you're the GM of a team. You're talking to the media. This isn't wasting breath. We care about what
00:41you have to say.
00:42It's an easy cop-out. Did you want him to go harder in the paint at the idea that Miles
00:46Garrett was not going to be traded?
00:48Yeah, but this is what the Browns do. They never explain to people what they're doing.
00:52Like, this is the genius of the Cleveland Browns. They're terrible.
00:55They're terrible every year. They have a mountain of excuses as to why they're terrible every year, and yet they
01:02don't give the fans the respect of explaining why they do what they do.
01:08There was no reason for them to change that contract last week, okay?
01:13Well, that's not the reason that they want to give themselves flexibility.
01:15Right. To make a trade.
01:17To make a trade.
01:17Right.
01:19So, I mean, I guess we should apologize that all of a sudden you're inundated with questions about why you
01:24would make a change to a contract that gives you no salary cap relief this year whatsoever,
01:30does give you flexibility to make a trade, so I guess now I'm supposed to sit here and apologize to
01:35the Browns for wanting to ask questions about you doing something you did not have to do,
01:39and then also at the same time, why did you do it?
01:42Well, I mean, can't we just call a spade a spade? Isn't this just obvious? Like, they have an intention
01:46to trade Myles Garrett at some point.
01:48If it's not this offseason, it'll be next offseason, and this is their reality.
01:51Now, it's the dodging of this that I find interesting, but, like, Andrew Barry's never been honest in any of
01:56this stuff.
01:57That's why I tell everyone, like, it's not only that he's a wild card, which is a term I typically
02:01use for Andrew Barry.
02:02It's like a perverse joy that he has in misleading and running all the fans into an opposite direction.
02:09He did this with the number two overall pick last year in talking about how much he loved Travis Hunter
02:13to then trade down and go at number five.
02:15He's done this even with the head coaching search.
02:17He did it with Baker Mayfield.
02:19I mean, this is like a constant theme with him.
02:21Like, how many times do you have to fall for the banana in the tailpipe trick?
02:23Like, this is a constant always thing with Andrew Barry, and I just, I'm not going to fall for it.
02:29I'm not going to be the sucker at the poker table with this one.
02:32I'm just going to accept any time he speaks, and listen, I'm happy that he at least spoke,
02:35because in the past year or so, we've only gotten that, like, one or two times.
02:38He was off limits to just about everybody, but any time he speaks, I just can't listen to any of
02:43it.
02:43I just can't take any of it as anything of substance to actually digest.
02:47Now, it's interesting he's speaking, Daryl, but, like, there's nothing else he can do with this.
02:52He's just flat-out lined everybody's face and has for years, and that's fine.
02:55There's no gold star for being truthful to us,
02:58but there is an understanding that we will never take you seriously when you speak.
03:02Yeah, well, the fact that he can't give a tangible reason for why they made the contract adjustment, okay,
03:11and then gets frustrated because he's getting repeat questions about,
03:16well, why did you make the contract adjustment?
03:18If you have no intention of trading him, if that's not on the table,
03:22if he's going to retire at Cleveland Brown and do the Cleveland to Canton thing that you talked about
03:27after he made the request last year and took a blowtorch to you on Radio Row or Media Row or
03:32whatever at the Super Bowl, right,
03:36then, I mean, the contract extension was supposed to be the end of the discussion,
03:40and I had just, you know, gone on a rant on my Sunday show the week before all this happened,
03:47you know, chastising the national media and our sister stations that I make appearances on and whatnot,
03:53and they come up with these phantom, hey, what if the Bears trade for Miles Garrett?
03:57What if the Eagles trade for Miles Garrett?
04:00What if the Cowboys trade?
04:01And I'm like, guys, it's not happening.
04:03It can happen from a cap standpoint, but the Browns basically have to get rid of half their team
04:08to create the room to make the trade.
04:10It's just not going to happen.
04:11And then, a few days later, they turn around and do that,
04:15and everything that I had just got done talking about
04:18and all of the criticism that I was lobbing back at all these ridiculous Miles Garrett trade requests
04:25are out the window because guess what?
04:27It's Miles Garrett trade request season once again.
04:29Oh, and you were right. In the moment, you were right, and then it moved,
04:32and you can still be right from that aspect,
04:34but when you were speaking to those outlets a week prior, you were right.
04:38That was based off of what you had been given.
04:40In the moment, I was, but then Andrew Barry went and did that,
04:43and it's like, well, what are we doing here?
04:44I know, and that's kind of the hard part,
04:45and I always remind people of this with trades in general,
04:48is that you can always, as long as both sides are agreeing,
04:50you can do whatever you want to an NFL contract.
04:51And so, like, there's always going to be a magic door that the magician can open up and go through,
04:56and all the Browns did in this instance was exercise that,
04:59and I don't blame them for it.
05:01I guess I'm frustrated at the idea, one, that people are listening to Andrew Barry
05:05with any sort of, like, realism attached to it,
05:08and then the other part of it is Andrew Barry getting frustrated by the responses and the follow-ups.
05:13It's like, how did you think this was going to go?
05:16Like, did Andrew Barry, what does Andrew Barry think the reporters are in this instance?
05:19Are they, does he think that they're like, you guys are his lapdogs or something?
05:22I don't know what he thought was going to happen.
05:25You can't restructure this contract and then let us go for days talking about Myles Garrett
05:30potentially being traded.
05:32Answer one question and then...
05:33And then, oh, I satisfied it.
05:35Right.
05:35Like, oh, I satisfied it.
05:36We're all good here.
05:37Like, no, that's not how this works.
05:38No, it's absolutely not how this works.
05:41And I think that there's another part of this conversation.
05:48Maybe Myles Garrett just isn't happy again.
05:52I had pulled out the audio from prior to the regular season finale, his last media availability,
06:01because I remember him talking about, or being asked about the state of affairs with the Browns,
06:07considering he had just signed this extension, and I'm paraphrasing here, but Myles Bases,
06:10listen, I just want to be successful.
06:13I don't care how that looks.
06:15I just want the team to be successful.
06:16In other words, I'm tired of the tomfoolery of losing around here.
06:21I'm fed up with it.
06:23And then he was asked a follow-up question.
06:25It was like a three-second bite, so I combined it.
06:27And he was asked a follow-up question, and he just says, you know, look, man, like, I want
06:32to play meaningful football.
06:33And you know what?
06:34I'm committed to the program here as long as they're committed to winning.
06:37As long as we're not losing for draft position or tanking for draft position, I'm all in.
06:42Well, is there a place that Myles, last year when he signed the deal and put pen to paper
06:47on it, is there a place where he thought, all right, fine, I make $40 million a year,
06:51I'm going to suck for one more year, and then they're going to get on, they're going to
06:53get going.
06:54They're going to get this thing ready, and we're going to start this whole entire rebuild
06:58process will be done, we'll draft a quarterback, we'll be off to the races, and we'll be going.
07:03Is there a part that Myles just didn't account for the idea that the 2026 draft class could
07:07just not appear?
07:07Yeah, I think that's part of it.
07:08And also, too, they hired Todd Munkin, and everyone, and I admit, myself included, we
07:13read into that Instagram story post that Myles had after Munkin was hired and Jim Schwartz
07:20officially departed from the Browns.
07:22Listen, I can read into the Jim Schwartz thing, I can, but I look at it like, if they had
07:26just
07:27taken a quarterback, or they were about to take a quarterback that was of the caliber
07:30of Arch Manning, let's say, I don't think we're having these discussions.
07:33No, but that guy's not available to the Cleveland Browns right now.
07:36Right, but that's where the Browns almost had this miscalculation of sorts, and then
07:40really, not to let them off the hook in any sort of way, but almost like extreme bad luck
07:44in the two years that they were set up to take a quarterback, when you win three games and
07:49then five games, you have a two-year blip of quarterbacks where it's either you are the
07:53number one overall pick, and if you don't have that, you're just kind of screwed.
07:56Right, and the two quarterbacks that you've gotten so far are Dylan Gabriel and Shador
08:00Sanders.
08:01That is absolute shade against Dylan Gabriel, because they wasted a third-round pick on him,
08:07and he's become an afterthought this offseason.
08:09It's like, well, we've got a quarterback competition this year, Shador Sanders v.
08:13Deshaun Watson, and look, if I were Myles, I'd be really worried about this conversation
08:18of Shador Sanders v. Deshaun Watson.
08:22Realistically, when do you think the Browns will win again?
08:25I think they're two years away.
08:28Like something of substance.
08:29You think two years.
08:30And that's if things break right.
08:3127-28.
08:33That's assuming that Andrew Barry repeats in this draft and in the 20-27 draft what he
08:40did in last year's draft.
08:43All right, so you could see how that'd be a problem for Myles Garrett.
08:45Oh, 100%.
08:46You're thinking like, hey, everything works out gravy.
08:49Everything's awesome.
08:50You're thinking two years away.
08:51Yeah.
08:52I mean, it's probably not reality based off of the NFL anyway to assume even two years.
08:57I think you're being kind of like, you're being generous there.
08:59Well, I'm giving them credit because they have a defense in place.
09:01I think you're being generous, which is a good, like, and I'm trying to make the generous
09:04side of things here with Myles.
09:05So like if Myles is thinking brown and orange glasses, he's like, all right, realistically,
09:10when can they start doing this?
09:12If two years is that answer, well, Myles is going to be old at that point.
09:15I know, and I got killed by some of my coworkers last week for laying out the Todd Munkin future
09:25and how I thought that potentially could play out.
09:28Like, he's got to win six to eight games this year, in my view.
09:33Win the games that you were supposed to win last year.
09:37You're now a step ahead, right?
09:38You took a step forward.
09:40Then next year, you've got to win a few more than that to get yourself into the playoff contention
09:46and conversation, right?
09:47He's got to win to keep his job, and I got lambasted for, you know, throwing shade at
09:52Todd Munkin or whatever.
09:53No, that's the reality of the situation.
09:56And oh, by the way, that's the job Todd Munkin signed up for.
09:59Yeah, no question.
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