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00:00On today's show, you were with him ten years ago.
00:03He's telling me that he loved me and that he's never stopped thinking about me.
00:07He's always loved me since then.
00:08He loved why he's been texting you.
00:11You've been texting him.
00:13I've seen all the messages you don't.
00:16It was your fucking hornwrecker.
00:18Right, you've got to be for...
00:19No, I've never said that, I'm right.
00:22You're the type.
00:23You're the type.
00:25Yes, you did, because I've seen the message.
00:31Don't make threats.
00:32That's not a threat.
00:35I hate Rosie.
00:37All right, Rosie, what's the low life for you?
00:40Ross was my boss too, we all made mistakes, do we not?
00:43He's ill.
00:44Yeah, I didn't make him out.
00:45Oh my God.
00:49The next thing I heard was saying,
00:51Oh, don't tell your wife I touched your...
00:54You've chucked him out of the marital bed.
00:56Why doesn't he sleep on the sofa?
00:57Because he's not breaking my leather settee.
00:59LAUGHTER
01:04APPLAUSE
01:19Thank you, my friends.
01:20Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:22Now, you might just remember my first guest today
01:24from a previous encounter.
01:26Take a look at this.
01:28Your ex, Gary, has doubts that the youngest child is his.
01:32He actually believes that his brother, Gavin, is the father...
01:37Did you sleep with his brother?
01:38No, I haven't.
01:38You didn't sleep with his brother.
01:40So there's no way that Gavin is the father to the baby.
01:42He's trying to say that I'm stopping him from seeing his kids.
01:44No, and every time he rearranged to see your kid, his kid back,
01:49you say no at the very last minute.
01:51Excuse me?
01:51So don't try and say that I'm stopping him from seeing his own kids.
01:53But he's positive.
01:54You will never see these words.
01:56You care for his kids.
01:57Yes, I bloody will.
01:58You will never be the kids' dad.
02:01Are you sick in your ex?
02:02You can see that, you scruffy.
02:04Talk away, sir.
02:05Look at you.
02:07You're sick in your ex for thinking I sleep with her.
02:09The DNA test results show that the biological father of Chantel's son is...
02:13Mr. Guy.
02:14Of course you're the child's biological father, Gary.
02:15Thank you!
02:16Thank you!
02:17Thank you!
02:18Now, since then, Gary and Chantel decided to give their relationship another go,
02:22but Chantel had no idea that Gary was secretly speaking with an old flame Rihanna.
02:26Rihanna is here today to confront Chantel as she claims Gary has told her he's always loved her
02:31and he wants them, he and Rihanna, to build a life together.
02:34Now, Rihanna says, if Gary loves me, I want Chantel to back off.
02:39It's my man.
02:40Rihanna's on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
02:47I'm...
02:48Welcome to the show.
02:49Um, I'm a little bit confused.
02:52Well, tell me about it.
02:53This is brilliant.
02:54As you saw on the last clip, Gary, Chantel, big arguments.
03:00He's with Lauren.
03:01After the show, he's not with Lauren.
03:02He's back with Chantel.
03:04I've heard something similar, yeah.
03:05Then apparently you come back on the scene.
03:07But I want to share this with you, right?
03:09This is brilliant.
03:10You were with him ten years ago.
03:12Yep.
03:13How did you meet?
03:14On the fair.
03:15He used to work at the fair...
03:16The Doncaster race course.
03:18Did you not give up your job to be with this fairground worker?
03:22I gave up a chance to be a hairdresser.
03:23I was going to get trained up to be a hairdresser and I gave that up to be with him.
03:26And what happened?
03:27He ended up leaving.
03:29Up to the left because he got told by some of the guys that worked on there that I'd been
03:34seen with somebody else and that I didn't want him anymore.
03:36He was, by your admission, the love of your life.
03:39Yep.
03:40Did you watch him on the show?
03:41You didn't know any of this.
03:43No.
03:43So he basically is with Chantel, then he's with Lauren, then he's back with Chantel.
03:47But a week ago, you say, you went to the fair and you suddenly...
03:52Tell us what happened.
03:53I went to put my children on a ride, last ride of the day, and I've gone to put them
03:57on it.
03:58And his old boss was working on it.
04:01And he says, you used to go out with Gareth, didn't you?
04:03I was like, well, yeah, I did.
04:04It took you long enough to recognise me because I've come to the fair regularly since.
04:09And when I've left the fair that day, I thought, you know, I wonder how he's doing.
04:12And I've looked him up, found him on Facebook, seen that he's...
04:16No, you don't like that word.
04:18I've looked him up on Facebook, I've seen pictures of kids, and I've assumed he was in
04:22a relationship, but I was only after seeing how he was and stuff like that.
04:26Well, I've had him as a friend.
04:28He's near enough straight away, he's telling me that he loved me and that he's never stopped
04:32thinking about me.
04:33He's always loved me since then.
04:35He's never stopped thinking about me.
04:37He's wanted to get in touch before now.
04:39And I'm like, right, well, I assumed you were in a relationship.
04:43I'm already going to like me or you will leave me to go back to your ex.
04:46I will like you, babe, promise, and leave me for your ex, promise.
04:51You can't promise that one, baby.
04:54He's told you he loves you.
04:56Yep.
04:57And you've...
04:58On plenty of occasions in the past, like, nearly two weeks.
05:01And you feel exactly the same.
05:02Yeah.
05:03And you say, after ten years of missing out on the man that I love, today's my chance
05:08to claim him.
05:10Well, I want to know what's going on.
05:12I've told him, he needs to make up his mind, he needs to be truthful and honest, otherwise
05:15we're not going to get anywhere.
05:16Um, Chantel, um, obviously is his ex, um, but you told my team she has treated him really
05:23badly.
05:24That's what he's told me.
05:26I'm obviously here to hear her side of the story as well.
05:29She's been abusing you on Facebook, hasn't she?
05:31Yep, I had some very nice messages off, off her.
05:34Saying what?
05:34Calling me names, um, I'm, I'm a...
05:37That's Chantel.
05:39I've pulled the family apart, um...
05:41You're a homewrecker.
05:42Yeah, I've pulled the family apart, apparently.
05:44Chantel's on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
05:45Give her a round of applause for the time.
05:52I've been with him, same, no, half years.
05:54Got two kids, yeah?
05:56He's been...
05:56He looked like he's been texting you.
05:59Well, you need to get to the bottom.
06:00Yeah, well, I need to get to the bottom, cos he's been...
06:03Me, I'm pregnant, I might be pregnant.
06:04I don't have a problem with you, right?
06:05You go send me...
06:06You've been texting him.
06:07You go send him in a...
06:08I've seen all the messages you don't...
06:10You're a...
06:11Yeah, you send me abusive messages.
06:13Do you know what?
06:14Do you text me?
06:15Do you text me?
06:17You don't know me, yeah?
06:18Yeah, because you messaged me.
06:19You text me first, yeah?
06:21And why the...
06:22I think there's proof of that.
06:24You don't even know in love.
06:25Yeah, I do.
06:26Cos you told me you've never met him.
06:29No, I didn't.
06:29You told me you've been met him before.
06:31You messages under the screen shot.
06:34Welcome back.
06:35There's only one thing missing in your little rant, darling.
06:38And I told you this last time.
06:40He's the love of your life and he's still sleeping with you.
06:42On the last show, he was with Lauren.
06:44Then apparently he got back with you.
06:46And there's the weasel.
06:47Cos in the last week, he's been telling her everything.
06:50He's been sleeping with me.
06:50Why don't you wise up and spend some time on your own and dump him?
06:53He's been sleeping with me.
06:54Why are you having a go at her?
06:57Because she's the homewrecker.
06:58She's been sleeping with me.
06:59Hold on a minute.
07:00It was him.
07:01Yeah, he's the one who's been sleeping with her, which is being cheating, lying, which is the way of my
07:06messaging.
07:06So why is that her fault?
07:06It's his fault.
07:08Yeah, it is his fault.
07:09But she shouldn't have been messaging saying, love you, baby, to him.
07:12Cos I've seen the messages.
07:14He's telling me that he's single.
07:15That's why you told that.
07:16Listen to what she's saying.
07:17He has sent me a message of you telling somebody else last week that you're not single.
07:21You know, listen, listen.
07:22You have apparently told somebody else last week that you were single.
07:24No, listen, love.
07:26He's screenshoted it.
07:27Listen, love.
07:27He's hot in my face, but yeah.
07:29Sorry, can we just go back?
07:30He was with Laura and they split up.
07:31You get back together.
07:32Yeah, which I got back.
07:32I mean, with the grace of respect, Chantel, right, you must be the most naive woman I've ever had on
07:37this stage.
07:37You know exactly what he's like, don't you?
07:40Yeah, I do know.
07:40So are you surprised, right?
07:42Shouldn't you, as a sister-in-arms, instead of slagging her off,
07:46shouldn't you be turning to her and going,
07:48darling, let me tell you, you want to keep well away from him?
07:51Isn't that the truth?
07:52Yeah, this is what I'm trying to tell her.
07:53He's a lying and cheater.
07:54He slept with four people.
07:55He promised you that he was going to be...
07:58He slept with a 17-year-old in the bus stop.
08:00How the hell does he get...
08:01In the bus stop?
08:02Oh, God.
08:03He had his pants down, sleeping with a 17-year-old in the bus stop.
08:07Why do you keep letting him back in, you silly woman?
08:09Because he turned around and said he won't lie and cheat to me again.
08:12But that was a week ago.
08:14Yeah.
08:15Well, since we've been on the last show,
08:17we got back together and he promised,
08:20he swore down,
08:20I will never cheat and lie to you again.
08:22And he swore down that on his mum.
08:24And what's he done?
08:25And he's going to done it again.
08:26He says he's a sex addict.
08:28Shut up.
08:28He says he's a sex addict.
08:30Yeah, which he sleeps about without any time.
08:31But why do you allow it?
08:33Because I didn't know.
08:34He's never told me.
08:35Have you had sex?
08:36When was the last time you saw him?
08:37I haven't even seen him since we've got...
08:39You haven't seen him for 10 years and you're out here defending him?
08:43Right, well, after this break, there he is.
08:44You're going to meet the man you met on the fairground, right?
08:46He used to give you a free ride on the bumper cars.
08:48You only got back in touch with him a week ago.
08:52She got back with him.
08:53He's cheated on her.
08:55She's going to say he's going to do the same to you.
08:57If I get my wicked way, that toerag's going to leave here on his own.
09:01I'm right back.
09:02Right.
09:03You've got to be for...
09:04No, I've never seen that.
09:06You're the type of cheater.
09:08You're the type of...
09:09Yes, you did, because I've seen the message.
09:15Have you been accused of cheating?
09:17Do you need to prove your innocence with a lie detector?
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09:49Thank you very much, Ali.
09:50Welcome back before the break.
09:51Rihanna and Chantelle.
09:52So, you get the story, right?
09:53Gary seems to leave you and go to Lauren.
09:56Come on the Jeremy Kyle show.
09:57It's proven he's the father of your child.
09:59After the show, you and he get back together.
10:01But you have major, major, major doubts about this bloke.
10:03And lo and behold, in a matter of days,
10:06he's on face, whatever it is,
10:07and he's back in touch with Rihanna who says
10:09he was the love of my life 10 years ago
10:11and I want to be with him and he's told me a lot.
10:14She says he's full of STIs.
10:16Gary, Don Juan on the Jeremy Kyle show.
10:26Yeah, you're a cheater, yeah?
10:28You're the cheater?
10:29No, I was going out for a drink, yeah?
10:33So, do not mind.
10:34Right?
10:34You want to be for it?
10:35No, I've never said that.
10:37I'm like, you're the type.
10:38I've never said that.
10:39I'm like.
10:40You're the f***ing liar.
10:41Yes, you did.
10:41Because I've seen the messes on to Audrey.
10:43Hello, sit down.
10:44Please, all of you, come here.
10:46Why would I say that?
10:46How the hell do you believe in a pint?
10:49How the hell have you got women
10:51throwing themselves at you?
10:54You came on this show,
10:56you got back with her!
10:58You were with Lauren last time
10:59and now you're with her!
11:00Excuse me, but I'm...
11:01She was sleeping about.
11:04She's been messaged in other men.
11:06Oh, you think she's been sleeping about?
11:08That's why you got back with Rihanna.
11:10Which is why, just for your information,
11:12we've done double lie detector results, right?
11:14You've done one to prove that you're not cheating,
11:16especially with his brother.
11:17Last time there were accusations
11:18that she'd been sleeping with your brother, Gavin, right?
11:21Yeah.
11:21We're going to do that.
11:22But also we've done a lie detector on you
11:23because you couldn't tell the truth.
11:25Is this really the love of your life?
11:27Yeah.
11:28Really?
11:28Yeah.
11:29Aim a little bit higher love.
11:31I want to go back with Rihanna.
11:31What?
11:32I want to go back with Rihanna.
11:33Excuse me, but you put her first before your children.
11:35Last time on the Jeremy Kyle show,
11:37you were with Lauren and she hated Chantelle.
11:40A week later or a month later,
11:41Lauren's on Chantelle's side.
11:43Lauren's next on the Kyle show that way.
11:50You were calling my mom,
11:52calling her everything.
11:53You were sleeping with him.
11:54You were against her with him.
11:56Now you're with her against him.
11:57And this is the late...
11:58All you people do with me since my TV got me.
12:01Yeah, but I wasn't the one who rubbed your freaking TV,
12:03so will you stop accusing me?
12:04Because he's a...
12:05It was...
12:06You got around and telling people...
12:09One second, let's forget the TV.
12:11Listen, we know he's took it, yeah?
12:13The person who you'd be sleeping with in the bus stop.
12:15Yeah?
12:16Somebody in the bus stop.
12:17And she's...
12:17She's holding it to do...
12:18That was her...
12:19Could you please sit up straight?
12:21Last time you were with him against her,
12:24but since the show,
12:25he left you, got with her,
12:26and now he's left her and got with her.
12:28Do you not think this bloke should come
12:30with a government health warning?
12:32I don't know.
12:33What do you think to her?
12:35She's the latest.
12:36I just think it's wrong.
12:38Why is it wrong?
12:39Why did you and he split up?
12:40Shut up.
12:41Well, me and him went our own way,
12:44because he didn't even decide to dump us or anything,
12:46so he...
12:47Got back with Chantel.
12:49Which I was fine about,
12:50because me and Chantel sort things out.
12:52You got back with Josh.
12:53Yeah, I got back with Josh.
12:54It's nothing to do with you.
12:56And then you're going around spreading...
12:57Saying I'm pregnant with your kid, and I ain't.
12:59No, I never said that.
13:00I never said that.
13:01Yeah, you have.
13:01There's your brother, Gavin.
13:04You're talking about the...
13:08You should be Ali G.
13:11Excuse me, Chantel, shut up.
13:12I need to make...
13:13And you, Gavin, be quiet.
13:14On the last show,
13:15the accusations were that she...
13:17Shut up!
13:20Last time on the show,
13:21there were accusations from you
13:22that he and she had been having sex,
13:23so we did DNA.
13:24You refused a lie detector last time.
13:26The DNA proved that you were the dad.
13:27She's done a lot.
13:29She's a single girl.
13:30She's a best friend.
13:31Shut up! Shut up!
13:32Shut up!
13:34Oi, do me a favour, Gobby.
13:35Get your backside on the stage,
13:37because I'm going slightly mutton.
13:38Get out of here.
13:40Put your teeth first.
13:41I'm going to get a couple of places to that.
13:46I love getting...
13:48I'm getting...
13:49Oi, you...
13:51You...
13:51Had sex with her while I was there.
13:54No, you...
13:55No.
13:58Oi, oi, oi, oi, oi, go and sit down,
14:02little man, instantly.
14:03Why should I sit down, though?
14:04Because it's called the journey of Karlshaar,
14:05and I'm telling you to sit down.
14:15Don't make threats.
14:16That's not threat.
14:17I'm only doing what one of my favourite wrestlers used to do,
14:21The Undertaker.
14:23You think he's big enough, aren't you?
14:25What?
14:28He thinks...
14:28Right, on the last show...
14:30Shh, shh, shh.
14:31There were accusations...
14:31Yeah, you think you're a bloody...
14:32Can I speak?
14:33God's gift to women.
14:35Oh, that's you.
14:35Not you.
14:36You'll never see kids again.
14:38Have you been sleeping with...
14:39Shut up, shut up.
14:40Have you been...
14:40Seriously, or I'm done.
14:42Do you know what?
14:43The look on your face says,
14:44How the hell did I end up in this?
14:46I'm going to run home.
14:47As I said to you before...
14:48Can you be quiet?
14:50Have you been sleeping with Chantel?
14:51As I said before, hell no.
14:53Right.
14:54She's done a lie detector.
14:56Yeah.
14:56Yeah.
14:57I know.
14:57Good.
14:58She's done a lie detector,
14:59which you say will prove that you weren't cheating on him.
15:01He's the bad one.
15:02You've also done a lie detector.
15:04Can I ask you, just as I watch your face,
15:05can the rest of you please just button it?
15:08Really?
15:09That's the love of your life?
15:10Yeah.
15:12With all of this baggage?
15:13Yeah.
15:14Still.
15:15You're a mug.
15:16Shush.
15:16Well, she was a mug and she was a mug
15:18and you're definitely not a mug.
15:19I don't know whether you're a mug or not,
15:20but so you're...
15:21So let me get this right.
15:22On the last show, you were with her.
15:23You left her and you went back to Chantel,
15:25the mother of your kids.
15:25You've now left Chantel because apparently she's a cow
15:27and you're about to embark on a relationship
15:29with somebody that you met on a fairground 10 years ago.
15:31You used to give a...
15:32I don't know who I wanted to be with,
15:33but I was younger.
15:34Well, why were you with everybody else then?
15:35Having babies with them?
15:36Why don't you put a knot in it
15:37and wait till you met her again then?
15:44Why are you having sex at bus stops?
15:48I have an outside example.
15:50Yeah, you are.
15:51Because me and Josh saw you.
15:53No.
15:53Yeah.
15:54Yeah.
15:54We saw you.
15:55Because me and Josh were walking around.
15:57And you were some dirty little...
16:00No matter bus stop.
16:01And you were.
16:03Yeah, you were.
16:04Sorry, who are you?
16:05Gary.
16:06Hold on, shut up.
16:06Who are you?
16:07Josh.
16:08And?
16:09And what?
16:09Who are you going out with?
16:10Lauren.
16:11She was going out with him.
16:13Yeah, I know.
16:13Well, how long have you been out with her for?
16:16I went out with her four months before I split up
16:17and then gave her a month and a half.
16:19And what's your view?
16:19She's a...
16:21Is that a little cheat?
16:22Well, there was depth to that.
16:23It wasn't a...
16:24Just a bit.
16:26Why have we done this lie detector, please?
16:28Can we just, honestly, before I have a breakdown,
16:30you said,
16:31I have not been sleeping with Gavin
16:34and I will prove that.
16:35We proved last time with DNA.
16:36But more importantly, you say,
16:37I want him to do a lie detector
16:39because I believe that he was cheating on me
16:41and he's always been a cheat.
16:43If he has cheated on her
16:44and he has cheated on Lauren
16:45and he basically can't keep it in his trousers,
16:47you're seriously going to go back with that, are you?
16:49What, do you believe you're the woman that will change it?
16:51You're better than this, don't you?
16:53Well, yeah.
16:54Yeah.
16:55Have those lie detector results done.
16:56Are you going to pass?
16:57Yeah.
16:59Are you sure?
17:00Interestingly, you think that she's been accusing you
17:03because she's the cheat.
17:04So we've done a lie detector on Chantel.
17:05Are you all right?
17:06Yes.
17:06Good.
17:07You like wrestling then?
17:08Yes.
17:09Sorry, my gentleman, but...
17:10He said, oh, can we have a freezer?
17:12Me and you and another girl, right?
17:14And he said...
17:14Liar.
17:15I've seen it.
17:16We are, Chantel.
17:17Since you restarted your relationship with Gary,
17:19have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
17:21She said no,
17:22because of course Chantel was telling the truth.
17:25All right.
17:32Can't keep falling for this guy's BS.
17:34You know this.
17:35Since you restarted your relationship with Gary,
17:37have you had any sexual contact with anyone else?
17:39She said no.
17:39She was telling the truth.
17:46And one specific question aimed at you, his brother,
17:49apart from kissing.
17:50You've kissed him before, yeah?
17:51Well, yeah, because he cheated on me,
17:53so I got my arm back.
17:54Have you had any other sexual contact with Gavin?
17:56You said no.
17:57Why'd you say no?
17:58That's all I'm telling the truth.
17:58She says you're lying.
18:00Ah, there you go!
18:01There you go!
18:02So you had sex with her, did you?
18:04No.
18:04More than a kiss, though, right?
18:06It's there in writing.
18:07It's there in black and white.
18:08What about you?
18:09What an absolute joke.
18:10What about you?
18:10Look at her.
18:11Look at her.
18:12I'll tell you what, mate.
18:13She's the best on this stage.
18:15How long were you and Chantel back together?
18:17Well, we split up and we were back together
18:20like three weeks or something.
18:21We asked Gary since you restarted
18:23your relationship with Chantel.
18:24Have you passionately kissed anyone else?
18:26He said no.
18:27In the time he was back with Chantel,
18:28he was messaging you and wanting to make it work, yeah?
18:31Yeah.
18:32Since you restarted your relationship with Chantel,
18:34have you passionately kissed anyone else?
18:35He said no.
18:36Tess says the love of your life's a liar, darling.
18:38What am I?
18:39Since you shut up,
18:40since you restarted your relationship with Chantel,
18:42have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
18:43He said no.
18:44This Tess says he's lying.
18:46And since you restarted your relationship with Chantel,
18:48have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
18:50He said no.
18:51Do you know what?
18:51You're all right,
18:52but you need to wise up
18:53because he lied on every single question.
18:55No, I never want to.
18:57The love of their lives, look at me.
18:59But I know by looking at you,
19:01if you even considered being with that,
19:04it would be the biggest mistake of your life.
19:06I want to be here.
19:07You're all right.
19:09You're all right.
19:10You've got it.
19:11You've got it.
19:11I know you've got it.
19:13You know.
19:15She's been looking after his kids
19:16and he's been out messing around.
19:18Let me tell you something.
19:18You do what you want.
19:19Shut up.
19:20This isn't about a war between you and her.
19:23She's probably,
19:24don't take this the wrong way,
19:25slightly stupid to keep believing him
19:27and I don't know quite what happened there.
19:29But here's the thing, right?
19:31Ten years is a long time.
19:33People change.
19:34You have in your mind,
19:35you have in your mind that image
19:38or your belief.
19:40He doesn't treat women properly, darling.
19:42And don't get me wrong.
19:43Shut up.
19:44You can go home with him
19:46and do everything with him,
19:47but I'm telling you,
19:47an old man's telling you,
19:48look at me,
19:49the same will happen to you
19:50and you're better than that.
19:53You,
19:54stop making people pregnant.
19:55Stop spinning yarns of rubbish.
19:58When this goes out,
20:00hopefully she's going to leave you
20:01and everybody will know what you are
20:02because you treat women really badly.
20:04And while we're on it,
20:05I know it's easy,
20:06shut up.
20:08While we're on it,
20:08it's really easy to say this
20:10and hard to do.
20:11We're going to look after you,
20:12but you've got to stop believing,
20:14okay?
20:14Stop sleeping with him.
20:16I'm not.
20:16Tell him to do one.
20:17Yep.
20:18Think very closely.
20:19Are you leaving with the love of your life
20:21or are you leaving with a bunch of people
20:23who have been messed up
20:24by the way he lives?
20:26What are you going to do?
20:27Are you going to run off
20:27with the love of your life
20:28or are you going to actually look at him
20:30for what he is?
20:32Because every single person there
20:33has been hurt by him.
20:35It's looking likely
20:36and I don't really need that right now.
20:50She's far more intelligent
20:52than you could ever dream of
20:52and I hope she's going to wake up
20:53and go.
20:55Well, you don't love anybody.
20:56You love yourself.
20:57Go away.
20:58Go away.
20:59Get lost.
21:00Get him out.
21:01And I mean, seriously,
21:02You're a half-year, Darren.
21:05Brilliant.
21:06Come on.
21:06Come on.
21:16She doesn't want you, mate.
21:17You've done it to her.
21:18You've got kids with her, for God's sake.
21:21Let's go away.
21:22No.
21:22No, no.
21:23Don't say a word.
21:24Go on, answer her.
21:25You've got kids with her
21:25and you cheat.
21:26You were with her and you cheat.
21:27You've cheated on everybody
21:28and if I have my way,
21:29she will never be with you.
21:31Seriously, darling.
21:32You took this and I like you.
21:33Do what you want.
21:34No, I never.
21:35He has made this.
21:36You've never seen your children.
21:38Shut up, force.
21:39Shut up.
21:40Be quiet.
21:41Together.
21:41He has made this.
21:43Will you be quiet?
21:44He has made this an argument between women.
21:46This is about you as a woman looking at that
21:48and thinking,
21:49I know where you are.
21:49Do you want to be with him?
21:50Well, if he can do something like that
21:52to someone that's got kids to him,
21:53then be in love.
21:54Oh, well.
22:08Just a warning
22:09as we go to a break.
22:10We're going to work with these people, right?
22:13If you're watching this programme
22:14and that bloke comes into your life
22:16on Facebook or not,
22:17avoid him like the plague.
22:19We're back after this.
22:20Don't go anywhere.
22:21All right, Rosie.
22:23All right, Rosie.
22:24What's the low life for you?
22:25Yes, my mum and your boy.
22:26For us, we're my boss too.
22:27We all make mistakes.
22:28Do we not?
22:29He's ill.
22:30Yeah.
22:30I've been in a week and a month.
22:31Oh, my God.
22:36Have you got a jealous partner?
22:38Are you the one that cannot control your jealousy?
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23:05APPLAUSE
23:11Thank you very much, indeed.
23:12Welcome back.
23:12My next guest today, Ross,
23:13says his dad, John,
23:14has let him constantly down
23:16throughout his life.
23:16Now, Ross says he was diagnosed
23:17with cystinosis,
23:19a disease that affects the kidneys
23:20at just two years of age.
23:21Ross says he feels like his dad
23:23hasn't supported him
23:24through this illness
23:25or, indeed, the rest of his life.
23:26And he says,
23:26I'm here today to tell him,
23:28you know what, mate?
23:28You haven't been anywhere for me.
23:30I've been ill.
23:31You've been no sort of dad of mine.
23:33Stay out of my life.
23:34Brave young guy.
23:35Ross is on the Jeremy Kyle show.
23:36Give him a round of applause.
23:39APPLAUSE
23:45Thanks for coming on.
23:47Hi.
23:4920 years of age.
23:50Yeah.
23:51By anybody's standards,
23:53you've had a particularly hard time
23:55in terms of your illness?
23:57Yeah.
23:58You...
23:59It's basically a kidney disease,
24:02cystinosis.
24:02Can you tell us something about it?
24:04It's crystals that attack the vital organs.
24:10In my case, it's kidney and thyroid.
24:13It would affect your growth?
24:14Yeah, that's what I'm...
24:15Did you...
24:16Did you have a kidney transplant?
24:19No.
24:19I'm hopefully getting one this year,
24:22end of the year, hopefully.
24:22So you are, at this moment,
24:24waiting for a kidney transplant.
24:27Um...
24:27You tell me that this guy,
24:29who...
24:30Uh-huh.
24:30I mean, you know,
24:31is your father,
24:32but you were diagnosed
24:33at a year and a half.
24:35Yeah.
24:35He has not been there for you at all.
24:38No.
24:38I moved way up north
24:40and when I was five
24:43and, um...
24:44I used to come to Glasgow
24:45for visits for the hospital
24:47and, um...
24:49He'd show up drunk sometimes and...
24:51This guy's always drunk,
24:52he's always smoked weed.
24:53Yeah.
24:53Somebody told me that this guy
24:54was jealous of the attention
24:56that your mother would give
24:57to you when you were a young...
24:59Yeah, when I was...
24:59Yeah, I don't remember,
24:59but it was when I was really young.
25:01That's why they...
25:02My agenda...
25:03Is it true that this guy...
25:04Yeah.
25:06He even told me
25:07that he hopes my kidney transplant
25:08will fail
25:09and he hopes that my dialysis hurts me.
25:12No.
25:13What's he kicking off for back there?
25:15No, I don't know.
25:16Why are you here today?
25:18I want to get some answers
25:19because he keeps blaming my mum
25:21for everything and...
25:23Is this really true about you, is it?
25:26Well, just let me out
25:27and I'll tell you.
25:29Simple as that.
25:30Well, he's making it up, is he?
25:32No, his mum is, not him.
25:33That's not a word out of his mouth.
25:34That's all coming from his mum.
25:35Full stop.
25:37Let's get you out.
25:38John's on the Jeremy Carr show.
25:39Well done, my friend.
25:40So we've got to tell you this to be done.
25:49All right, Rosie.
25:51All right, Rosie.
25:53What's the low life of you?
25:54It's a mummy's boy.
25:55What about the fact that he's been ill
25:57since he was a year and a half
25:58and you're supposed to be his damn father
25:59and she'll be a little bit nicer to him?
26:02Right?
26:03Look at that.
26:06You...
26:07Right, I'm talking.
26:09I'm here.
26:10If you want to talk to me about it, go.
26:12What do you mean?
26:13Right, see what you just said back today,
26:14but use your mouth, not your mum's.
26:16You're a drunk who smokes weed
26:18and hasn't been there for him.
26:19If he can't do it, I'll do it.
26:21You'll do what?
26:22Tell you the truth.
26:23You low life.
26:24And what are you then?
26:25I don't get paid to shit people.
26:26You do.
26:27Really?
26:27Yeah.
26:28I'll shout at people like you
26:29who don't do what they were supposed to do,
26:30which is bring their young sick son up
26:32and show him any humility in his life.
26:36You honestly think, right?
26:38You honestly think he'd be saying this, what?
26:40Because his mother told him to.
26:42Why don't you ask him?
26:43I just did.
26:45I just asked him in his face.
26:47See, see it just now.
26:48You tell me what you think.
26:49He told us that you said you hope to strip kidney.
26:51Why don't you interrupt me when I'm asking him?
26:53Because maybe he's nervous, okay?
26:54Because maybe you've just told me to ask him
26:56and I did.
26:57You didn't let me finish what I was saying
26:58before you and let him answer.
27:01You're full of it, aren't you?
27:02It's not you.
27:03Tell him.
27:03I'm allowed to be.
27:04It's called the Jeremy Carr show.
27:05I'm not allowed to be.
27:06I'm his father.
27:07Well, I'll tell you what.
27:08I'll tell you what.
27:09You're his father.
27:10Why don't you start damn well acting like one
27:12and then get him.
27:14Listen, look at me.
27:15Get him what?
27:15Tell him.
27:16Don't be scared of him.
27:17He's a big bully.
27:18You know you don't need to be scared of me.
27:19You tell me about your mouth.
27:21You did say that when...
27:22Say what?
27:22You said that my transplant really hurts.
27:25I put my speakerphone to my mum and...
27:27That I said that?
27:28Mm-hmm.
27:28I don't know if you're a drunk or not, but...
27:30More than likely, yeah.
27:31All right, that's all right.
27:32Because I thought you were a drunkie and a junkie.
27:34Is that right?
27:34Well, you're a drinker, aren't you?
27:36What?
27:37Out of the audience, how many people here drink?
27:40How many people in this audience...
27:41How many people in this audience are alcohol dependent?
27:45You are, though, aren't you?
27:47You drink every day.
27:48Did I drink today or last night when I could have?
27:50Your son doesn't think you've done it.
27:52Oh, my God.
27:53Why would you want that in your life?
27:55I don't know.
27:57No.
27:57You've got to speak, mate.
27:59I've asked what I'm waiting for, Alan, your voice.
28:01You did say that.
28:02Say what?
28:02I hope your transplant hurts.
28:04Mm-hmm.
28:06And...
28:06Wait, when was this?
28:08When I was 16.
28:09When you were 16.
28:10So that was when you came back to Glasgow, then?
28:11Mm-hmm.
28:12Right.
28:12Yeah.
28:13So that's what?
28:14I've always put my son first.
28:16I think his mother, Fiona, has bad mouths for me.
28:19So it's her fault.
28:20You've been a good dad?
28:21Not completely.
28:22No.
28:23She doesn't talk bad about you.
28:24You haven't been a good dad.
28:26Why not?
28:26Because you're too drunk.
28:27To what?
28:28Why?
28:28Why, then?
28:30Why, then?
28:31Because Ross was my foster.
28:32We all make mistakes.
28:33Do we not?
28:33He's ill.
28:34Yeah.
28:35I didn't make him ill.
28:36Oh, my God.
28:39Excuse me.
28:39That's it.
28:40You didn't make him ill.
28:41Look at your kid.
28:43But Ross...
28:43Ross...
28:44Fiona, can you hear this?
28:45Can you hear this, Fiona?
28:46Yes, I can.
28:47With a grace of respect, darling, I know that you said you don't even want anything to do with
28:50this guy, and that's why you're backstage, but I'm going to tell you something that I
28:52feel from my heart.
28:53I think you need to get out here and support your son and give him the confidence to actually
28:56tell his father what he thinks.
28:57I really do.
28:58Why did she need a bit of that, hadn't he?
29:01Yeah?
29:02Why did she need a bit of that, hadn't he?
29:04Because quite patently, he's scared of you, isn't he?
29:08Yeah, because maybe he doesn't want to say that to his dad.
29:11So what are you, a man and a mouse, then?
29:14Have you not got a mouth?
29:15Why do you need your mum here for you to see what you need to see?
29:18Because she's been the one consistent feature in his life while his alcoholic father's
29:21two smacked off his face with cannabis to give a damn.
29:25Ask it.
29:25Go on, Ross.
29:26Come on, Ross.
29:26I'm rather than him.
29:28Shut him up for a minute.
29:30He gets paid for this.
29:32Why are you here?
29:33Why don't you go somewhere else and make a failure of your life?
29:36Is that what you've done here?
29:37Why don't you go, then?
29:39Why don't you just go?
29:40You don't want to go.
29:41Why don't you just go, then?
29:42Why don't you?
29:43Because I'm here and so is your son.
29:45Why did you not want to meet this guy?
29:47He says that you badmouthed him against Ross and that's why Ross has an opinion.
29:51What's your side of this, Fiona?
29:52Because Ross doesn't have a brain of his own, obviously.
29:55I think he does.
29:55I think he's very shy and I think he's very reticent to say what he feels about this man.
30:00So why does his mum eat your day?
30:01Do you pay for your child, do you?
30:03Do you?
30:04Oh, my God.
30:05Is that your answer?
30:06I've got four kids, I pay for them every day.
30:08Have you paid for your son?
30:09When I've had money, yes.
30:10When you've had money, what do you do?
30:11How do you buy your cannabis and your booze, then?
30:14Why don't you give those up and send the money to your kid?
30:16What sort of father's he been?
30:19When we were together, he was great.
30:21Then what happened when you split?
30:24He blamed me for taking his son away, which I did.
30:27Why?
30:27Because we lived in a not very nice place.
30:31How difficult has it been for Ross?
30:34It's always been difficult, but he doesn't complain.
30:38He never has.
30:39Can you not tell your dad how you feel?
30:42Because you told us you have so many things that you want to say to him.
30:48Yeah.
30:48And to be fair to him, he's here to listen, but unless you say it, there's no point, is there?
30:52I'd rather it came from you, Ross.
30:55You smoke a lot?
30:56Yes.
30:57Yes.
30:58I've not denied I smoke cannabis.
30:59I do drink a lot when I have money.
31:00If I've not got money, I don't drink.
31:02I've never been diagnosed with alcoholism.
31:05Why don't you just stop drinking and give the money to your son?
31:07Ross needs money.
31:08All he does is phone me.
31:10He never does.
31:11Come on, Fiona.
31:12That's not what you told us.
31:13You told us he hasn't get...
31:14You told me when we split that you would never hold down a full-time job because that would
31:20mean you would have to pay child support.
31:21And you never did.
31:23I told you that.
31:23That's what's wrong with it.
31:25Are you on the dole, are you?
31:26Are you on the dole, are you?
31:27How much do you get?
31:28Eh, what, weekly, fortnightly, monthly?
31:31Weekly's nothing.
31:32Get paid fortnightly.
31:35How much do you get every two weeks?
31:38178.
31:39You don't deserve a penny of it.
31:41Do I not?
31:41No.
31:42See, that's a huge part of it.
31:44You probably could pay that a lot more.
31:46What do you think it's time?
31:47I think neither do you.
31:48You certainly don't.
31:49You're next to you waiting for a kidney transplant.
31:51Yes, I don't know what.
31:52You think I don't know that.
31:53You haven't paid for him.
31:53You've basically smoked and drunk your way through, what, 17 years?
31:57And your kid's on television.
31:58Too scared, too shy, and maybe too ill to actually truly say what he feels.
32:02And you think you're making yourself look good, do you?
32:05I'm not caring about him.
32:06Why would he even, no, you obviously don't care about him.
32:08Well, I care about him, but I don't care that I would.
32:09Well, then why don't you show him how you care about him and change your life and be a better
32:11dad, then?
32:12Why wouldn't you do that?
32:14That's a very good one.
32:15Have you come out here, have you come out here and apologised once?
32:19For what?
32:20You've not given me a chance to defend the people.
32:21You tapped him on the head and humiliated him and said, all right, Rosie boy, do you need
32:25your mummy to, look at your face.
32:26He does.
32:27Oh, my God.
32:28Have you done enough?
32:29Have I done enough?
32:30No.
32:31How does that make you feel?
32:32Pretty guilty most of the time.
32:34Why don't you do something about it, then?
32:35I tried.
32:36I do try.
32:36I'm the one that takes.
32:38The only way you can answer yourself is to look in a mirror and say whether you've been
32:41any sort of father to this kid.
32:42He's about to him, I guess.
32:44You've asked me the same question four times.
32:46Did I make a good job of it?
32:47And I've admitted no.
32:48And I've admitted to you no.
32:49Well, what haven't you done since you came out here?
32:51You know, it's a sorry.
32:52Thank you very much, Ross.
32:53Have you once apologised for being the useless father you've been?
32:56I haven't even met him yet.
32:57We haven't.
32:58Ross, the one thing that I would say about this show, a lot of people, understandably,
33:04when they're out here, find it very difficult to say what they feel.
33:06We'll do this backstage if that's what you want.
33:09My point to you would only be this, and I guess actually your dad would agree with this.
33:14Unless you actually say what you want to say, you can't get the answers that you are asking for.
33:18You might not get the answers you want, but you need to say it.
33:22Now, I guess your dad's big enough and ugly enough to handle criticism,
33:25which means that if you don't say it now as you approach this operation
33:30and all the fear that must bring to you, you're never going to say it, are you?
33:34So when you get a chance backstage with your dad and with Graham,
33:38without your mum, tell him how you feel.
33:41Because if you do, you might get the answers you want,
33:45but if you don't, you might have wasted a good opportunity.
33:48One thing I will say about your dad, he did come here.
33:50He didn't have to come here, did he?
33:51No.
33:52He didn't want to.
33:54I'm sure you didn't.
33:54You were probably too busy going down the pub.
33:56I right.
33:58Day off the booze for you.
33:59Do you think you're some sort of genius?
34:01I think.
34:02Think on the downside, better than people like you don't look after them.
34:04I can read people a lot better than you.
34:05You can read people better than me.
34:06All right, let me try a little thing for you,
34:09because you're obviously the big, clever man.
34:10Look left a second.
34:11Have a little look.
34:12What do you see?
34:13My oldest son.
34:14And what do you see?
34:14What do I see?
34:18Do you see a kid that's worried?
34:22Do you see a kid that's confused, messed up, scared,
34:26petrified with answers that he wants?
34:27And what do you do?
34:28You sit there on your backside going,
34:30I'm smarter than you.
34:32It doesn't matter how smart you are.
34:34There's one thing you should be, and I am,
34:35and it's got nothing to do with doing a television show
34:37or having a job or not having a job.
34:39It's about being a parent.
34:41Are you a good parent?
34:41No, you haven't been.
34:42And the only thing you should be worried about
34:44is trying to be a better parent to your kid who's ill.
34:47That's not difficult, and you are not that,
34:49so you can shove your opinions where the sun don't shine.
34:52You go that way, and you talk to them,
34:54and you make it all.
34:55Oh, yeah.
34:56Unbelievable.
34:57Get that out.
35:0945 years of age.
35:11Cannot and will not consider what's important for you.
35:14Your mum has been the one redeeming feature in your life.
35:18I'm going to say something to you.
35:20Make sure that you do try and say what you want.
35:22You might not get the answers you want.
35:24I appreciate you being on the show.
35:25Graham's waiting.
35:26Give him a round of applause.
35:34Good luck to them, and after the break, can lie detector results save a marriage
35:37that is quite literally at breaking point?
35:40Do not go to her, my friends, because I'm right back.
35:42The next thing I heard was say,
35:43Oh, don't tell your wife, I touched you.
35:47You've chucked him out of the marital bed.
35:48Why doesn't he sleep on the sofa?
35:50Because he's not breaking my love as a team.
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36:35My next guest today, Brenda, says that she is desperate to discover
36:37if her husband of nearly 10 years has been cheating
36:39after a woman claimed she'd slept with him
36:43and knew about the birthmark on his bum.
36:47Brenda says their trust from their marriage has naturally gone
36:50and thinks it's so bad he's been banned from the marital bed
36:52and he's sleeping downstairs on the ab cruncher.
36:55What's an ab cruncher?
36:57Oh, what creates these?
36:59All right.
37:00She's determined to get answers.
37:01This is a big day for her.
37:02Please welcome Brenda to the Jeremy Carl Code.
37:11Welcome to the show.
37:12Thank you very much indeed.
37:13You're OK?
37:14A bit nervous, but OK.
37:16Of course you are.
37:16Big, big day for you.
37:18Basically, you've been married to Richard for nearly 10 years,
37:20together for 11.
37:24It was November, really, that it all started, wasn't it?
37:26It started in November.
37:28We were saying she actually saw Richard's birthmark on his back.
37:33How does that happen?
37:34You're hanging the washing out, you're leaning over the fence,
37:36and a woman goes,
37:38here, Brent, I've seen the birthmark on your husband's bum.
37:41How does that happen?
37:43No idea, because it's an eight-foot fence.
37:45Simple question.
37:46This woman told you she'd been having sex with your husband?
37:49Yeah.
37:50What did you say to her?
37:51Her eye turned around and says,
37:52prove it, and she says,
37:54it happened in your bed.
37:55That's just to describe my house.
37:57She knew I had a king-size bed with a leather headboard on it.
38:02So I asked, but then again, I says,
38:05did you see it coming into the house?
38:07When I actually moved two weeks before,
38:08from one area to this area,
38:11and the delivery blog says,
38:12no, she went in around the area,
38:13she'd gone to pick her kids up from school.
38:15You tried to catch her out with the tattoo, didn't you?
38:18Yeah, and I says,
38:18did you see Richard's tattoo at the bottom of his groin?
38:21She says, what do you mean?
38:22I says, he says...
38:26Go on.
38:26And she says, I didn't see it.
38:28I says, well, it's there, big enough to see.
38:30Is it?
38:31No, there isn't one there.
38:33But it did work.
38:35Why did it work?
38:36Because I confronted her and I confronted him,
38:38and when I confronted her, he went red.
38:40Do you believe genuinely that he's cheated?
38:43Me aren't saying yes,
38:45but I want me in mind to say no.
38:47There was a phone conversation.
38:49Tell me about that.
38:50On Monday, I phoned Richard,
38:52because he works nice,
38:53so I have to get up to let him in at half past six in the morning.
38:56And I says, where are you?
38:57He says, I'm on my way home.
38:58I heard this Russian lass talking on the phone.
39:01I says, oh, that's what he's at.
39:02She went, oh, a lass from gums,
39:05which makes licorice all sorts.
39:06So I put the phone down.
39:08There's a Russian woman that makes licorice all sorts.
39:10Well, that's what he's told me.
39:12She worked in gums.
39:14Gums?
39:15Gums, which is licorice all sorts.
39:16It's another word.
39:17Wine gums?
39:18Well, they make wine gums as well,
39:19and chocolate and all that.
39:20But the Russian woman works in the gum department.
39:22Yeah, that's what he told me, yeah.
39:25So she works with her gums?
39:26No, she works with her hands,
39:28but she makes gums.
39:29This is the name of the factory area.
39:31And she's from Russia?
39:32She's from Russia, yeah.
39:34The gum woman's from Russia?
39:35Yeah.
39:35Oh, right, OK, so he's on the way home.
39:37He's the way home,
39:38and then I phoned back,
39:40and I says, oh, what's she?
39:42She says, her name's...
39:43So I says, fair enough.
39:45And the next thing I heard was saying,
39:46oh, don't tell your wife I touched your...
39:50And I says, what the hell did she just say?
39:53And then he put the phone down on me.
39:55I tried to ring him three more times,
39:57and he just kept rejecting the calls.
39:59Today he's done a lie detector.
40:00On a serious note,
40:01this isn't just a week or a month-long relationship,
40:03it's ten years.
40:04It's been going on.
40:05You say that...
40:06For a while.
40:07You can't get this out of your head.
40:09You've chucked him out of the marital bed.
40:10I said introduction,
40:11and I was a little bit confused.
40:12What's an ab cruncher?
40:13It's a gym equipment.
40:15Why doesn't he sleep on the sofa?
40:16Because he's not breaking my leather settee.
40:23To be quite honest,
40:24I don't want him on my settee.
40:26You said that you put a sex ban on him,
40:28but before that,
40:29your love life was quite adventurous, wasn't it?
40:31Yeah.
40:31In what way?
40:33How would we...
40:33Wine gums?
40:34No, nothing.
40:34No, not to do with wine gums.
40:36It was good enough.
40:37How?
40:38Brilliant.
40:38Every day I come home four times a day.
40:40Four times a day?
40:42Yeah.
40:42So it was pretty good.
40:45But you were quite adventurous,
40:46weren't you, in the bedroom?
40:48Yeah, we were quite adventurous, yeah.
40:49Do you want to tell me how?
40:51Probably this way.
40:51We used to go to Hanselmers,
40:52so there was quite a lot of stuff.
40:54You used to dress up and...
40:55Oh, yeah, in the little uniforms.
40:57Jenny used to like it.
40:58Say that again.
40:58In the little uniforms.
41:00Oh.
41:01Yes.
41:02Don't get any ideas, right?
41:03We're not dressing as a nurse now,
41:05and he's on the app cruncher,
41:06because I don't want him on my leather sofa,
41:07and he ain't getting the bed,
41:08because I think he's a dirty man
41:09who's been sleeping with a woman.
41:10Yeah, he's been going on for a while.
41:12When I'd just given birth to one of my sons,
41:15there was a member of my family.
41:17She stopped me from the street and says,
41:19did you know Richard actually took a pass at me
41:21when you were just giving birth to you or something?
41:23He's on a sex ban until I get these results.
41:25He will have to take an SDI check, too.
41:27He's going to have to really prove to me,
41:29otherwise we are done.
41:30He says he's a babe magnet.
41:32He looks like Steve...
41:34LAUGHTER
41:35He says he looks like Steve McDonald
41:37from Coronation Street and...
41:39Well, you say that, actually.
41:40No, his mum actually said that.
41:41His mum says, and he's just irresistible to women,
41:44which, frankly, I can only say this,
41:46even that gives you hope.
41:47Let's get him on the show.
41:48Richard's on the Jeremy Carroll show, don't we?
41:50Let's start.
41:53APPLAUSE
41:59Don't laugh, it's not funny.
42:00No, it's not funny.
42:02The ladies are passing out in the front row.
42:04Well, this one's quite old, that's why she's passed out.
42:06You might have a go with that one.
42:08I mean, she might be your type.
42:09Richard, welcome to the show.
42:10How are you?
42:11Fine, Jeremy.
42:12You like older women, don't you?
42:1490.
42:16How are you?
42:17Fine.
42:17Um, you say I have never cheated.
42:21The woman, Brenda, who I love,
42:23is an absolute nightmare
42:25who will not stop going on at me.
42:28Stop, because you do go on at me all the time, Brenda,
42:31and I understand enough of it.
42:32Because I want to, at the end of the day,
42:33I want to be with you, not with no one else.
42:35But you were in the car with the woman at the gums, right?
42:36I just got a lift, because it was 5 past 6 in the morning.
42:39I just finished night, and I just wanted to get her home quick.
42:41So a woman gave you a lift back?
42:43No, it wasn't somebody else, a male driver,
42:45and some work colleagues.
42:46So she's threatening to divorce me on leave you for good
42:48after 10 years of solid marriage.
42:50It's ridiculous.
42:51She even tried to stop you from going to work.
42:55What was that all about?
42:56Because what I've been going off,
42:58and that's just, that's how paranoid she...
43:00Are you quite irresistible to women?
43:02They do like you, don't they?
43:04No, I'm just happy with one person, I'm just one man.
43:06Yeah, but I mean, without Brenda, you'd be a bit of a catch, wouldn't you?
43:10Probably, but I love Brenda too much.
43:12Yeah, right, of course you would.
43:13But, Brenda, you've gone very quiet since you came out.
43:16Why is that?
43:17I want truth, Richard.
43:18If you don't, I want answers,
43:21or Jeremy can stop this show until he'll tell me the truth.
43:24You told my team, Brenda, I'm 100% sure that he has failed.
43:27I think he honestly has failed this morning.
43:30Would you finish your relationship if he's failed?
43:33Probably, yeah.
43:34He has told me last night, I asked him a few days ago,
43:37how many times did you get a lift with this particular person in the car?
43:40But if he had something to hide, why would he ring you?
43:43He said he got this car...
43:44Why would he ring you from the car if he had something to hide?
43:46No, I phoned him.
43:47Why would he just not answer then, if he was doing something wrong?
43:49He didn't ring, he didn't pick up the phone.
43:51Why wouldn't he switch the phone off and say the car broke down
43:53or he couldn't get a bus?
43:54Why would he pick it up in full view of this woman,
43:56who apparently you think he's cheating with?
44:00Don't know.
44:01Well, I'm not cheating.
44:02I've only reason I've got a lift because I like to really...
44:04Did you make a pass at another woman?
44:05No, I never made no pass.
44:07No, only a pass I'd make is Brenda.
44:09Yeah, but Richard, you've got to explain.
44:11You told me last night that you were going in that car another twice
44:14and there were another two women on that shop floor
44:17which you lied about to me.
44:18I asked you a few days ago if there was any more incidents
44:21and you basically lied to me.
44:23You said no more incidents were occurring
44:26than last night you told me after a blip that it happened.
44:29I've got a question.
44:30How does the woman know you've got a mole on your bum?
44:33I don't know because I don't know myself.
44:37How would she know you've got a leather headboard?
44:40I don't know.
44:41She's not as good as a leather headboard.
44:42What?
44:43It's never been in my house when we lived there.
44:46Did you sleep with the neighbour or anybody else?
44:48No.
44:49Are you going to pass?
44:50Yes.
44:51Let's do the results, William, please.
44:53Bless you.
44:53You've got a mole on...
44:54No, I don't want to know.
44:55Right, as ever, the questions that were asked of you, Rich,
44:58the answers that you gave them were...
44:59I'm just going to ask the audience.
45:00How many people think he's a cheat?
45:03How many people think he's not a cheat?
45:06Interesting.
45:08We asked Richard, since the start of your relationship with Brenda,
45:11have you had sexual intercourse with any other person?
45:13You said no.
45:14Why did you say no?
45:15Because I was telling the truth.
45:16You were what?
45:16I was telling the truth.
45:19Of course he was telling the truth, Brenda.
45:25Since the start of your relationship with Brenda,
45:27have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
45:29He said no, because he was telling the truth, Brenda.
45:34And since the start of your relationship with Brenda,
45:36have you passionately kissed anyone else?
45:37Do you watch this show a lot?
45:39What's he got?
45:40Full out.
45:40Full out?
45:41So you got every question right?
45:43Listen to me.
45:46The thing is,
45:48I could squat here and I could criticise you
45:50and say that you're a pain in the backside who mithers.
45:53Then what's obvious, though,
45:54is that other people get involved, okay?
45:56Yeah.
45:57You cannot stop your man from working.
45:59You can't stop him from breathing.
46:00And if you carry on the way you're carrying on,
46:02he'll go and do it with somebody anyway,
46:04because you're just...
46:05It's ridiculous.
46:06Right?
46:07Yeah.
46:07The bottom line is,
46:08he has to work,
46:09you have to have time together,
46:10time apart,
46:11whatever it is.
46:12But you two are guilty of one thing.
46:14All these people are stirring it
46:16because they know you're vulnerable
46:16and you're believing it.
46:18Yeah, it's got to stop here, Brenda.
46:19Put your foot down.
46:20Come on, Rich.
46:20Yeah, it's got to stop here.
46:22And as I said,
46:23at the end of the day,
46:23I love you to bits.
46:24And if someone know more of this,
46:27you've got to stop being paranoid over me.
46:28All I'm going to say is,
46:29sorry for misjudging you
46:31and bringing you on Jeremy Kyle.
46:33No, no, I'm not saying that.
46:34Yeah, you should do it.
46:35Well, I am sorry for doing that,
46:36but you put a stop to it.
46:38I'll put a stop.
46:39You tell them.
46:39Why don't you put a stop
46:40to nagging his backside
46:41when he's come here
46:42and proven he's telling the truth now?
46:45No, no, no.
46:48No, no.
46:48Why don't you apologise
46:49because you were wrong
46:50and he was right
46:51and you've listened to other people
46:52instead of trusting a bloke
46:54you've been with for 10 years
46:55who's out earning money
46:56to make your life easier.
46:57So you should be saying sorry,
46:59not flippantly,
47:00but you should mean it.
47:01I don't mean I am sorry.
47:03It's in your head, love.
47:04Over there.
47:04And when somebody comes up
47:05and says,
47:06why do you think people
47:06say things to you, Brenda?
47:08Because they know
47:09they'll wind you up.
47:11No, that's what it is.
47:12People wind you up
47:13and you just take
47:14whatever says to them
47:14instead of believing
47:15what's coming from me.
47:16You're not really happy
47:17that he's wrong, are you?
47:18That you're wrong?
47:20It's all from done with
47:21and I've got a result.
47:22That's all what matters.
47:23Well, you need to apologise,
47:24draw a line in the sand
47:25and stop mithering.
47:26You might not believe it.
47:27Because, you know,
47:28let's look at you both.
47:29You wear the trousers
47:30in this relationship,
47:31don't you?
47:31Yeah, I do.
47:33I just got to go
47:33because I was growing
47:34a backbone.
47:35Do you want to know something?
47:36You do need to grow a backbone.
47:37I hate women
47:38that say that are men.
47:39You do need to shut up a minute.
47:40Yeah, grow a backbone.
47:42Put your foot down.
47:43Don't do what she tells you.
47:44You've proven yourself
47:45on this show.
47:45Stand up for yourself
47:46otherwise you're going
47:47to spend the rest of your life
47:47with doormat printed
47:48on your forehead.
47:49Go that way.
47:50Say, oi, come with me.
47:51Go on, stand first.
47:52Come with me.
47:52Yeah, go on.
47:53Put your foot down.
47:54Yeah, come on.
47:55Come on.
48:02Good luck to them.
48:03I hope he means it.
48:04I will get up
48:04but I'm stuck.
48:05I'm out of time.
48:06Don't forget,
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48:07you need our help,
48:07you can visit the website.
48:08The detail is on screen.
48:10To my guests,
48:10to this audience
48:11and to your home,
48:11thank you so much for watching.
48:13We'll see you very soon.
48:14Take care.
48:14Bye-bye.
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