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00:00On today's show, Eamon is here to find out, at long last, who his biological father is.
00:05I was expecting him to know, I'm going to love that. I'm not going to give. There was none of
00:09that.
00:09You had a lot of questions, you were put in the care system.
00:11What do we know? Because there are three potential fathers, is that right?
00:15Jonathan is here, done a DNA test.
00:17Scott is here, done a DNA test. Julian can't be, but we've done a swab.
00:20Jonathan is first on the Jeremy Kyle Show. How would you best sum up Eamon's mother?
00:24He also.
00:25She said she's a selfish lie. It's all about the drama.
00:28You said something I've never heard before.
00:30You say, this is one of the women in the world that should have had her tubes tied.
00:36You broke my nose, because I will buy ten cigs out of child benefit.
00:40Don't you think it's about your kid in that green room, who doesn't know his father is a friend of
00:45mine?
00:45He knows of his father, but he's a child.
00:48You did. Yeah, go on down.
00:51I'll keep seeing you're a good mother when you have nine kids and none of them live with you.
00:56Did you have an affair with Jonathan behind their back?
00:59Did I, yeah? They weren't even together.
01:01I had sex with you two days before you went off with her.
01:04Oh!
01:08Both of you are a billion percent sure, by the way, that apparently this brat, his father is Julian. Is
01:14that right?
01:14Yeah.
01:17Mother, are you kidding me?
01:19I know you are.
01:20What's this, mother?
01:21Mother, all of the truth.
01:38Hello.
01:39You all right?
01:40No, no.
01:41You all right?
01:43Thank you very much indeed.
01:44Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:46My first guest today, Eamon, is here to find out, at long last,
01:49who his biological father is.
01:51This guy is 21 years of age.
01:53He says that his mother, Kath, put him into the care system
01:55from a young age, and although they were reunited last year,
01:58he found nothing but complete disappointment.
02:00This lady told him he had three potential fathers,
02:03so today, how big is this?
02:06This young man at 21 finds out which one of those
02:09is his biological father.
02:10Now, he's backstage in the green room.
02:12This guy, very, very nervous.
02:13Going to go and meet him.
02:14We'll just go on this one here.
02:15A huge, huge day for this guy,
02:17because for him, it's about finding answers.
02:21It's about getting an explanation.
02:23How are you?
02:25How are you, Eamon?
02:26Really good to meet you, Eamon.
02:27Thank you for coming on.
02:28Is that a nervous smile or a...?
02:30Yes, it is, yeah.
02:31Just before we sort of begin the story,
02:35what does today mean?
02:37It means everything.
02:38It means everything, yeah.
02:40Kath is your mum?
02:41Yeah, Kath, she is.
02:42Um, what I really wanted to ask firstly
02:45was what you've been told by her,
02:48what you know to be factual right now.
02:51Well, as far as I know,
02:52I only got in contact with her there last year.
02:55You were in the care system?
02:56Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was adapted.
02:58And, um, I only got in contact there with her last year.
03:02And, um, it took me about six months,
03:07like, just to start trusting and getting to know her.
03:10I think that's really realistic,
03:11because some people, Graham would agree,
03:12think it's going to be, like, you know, fantastic.
03:14But you had a lot of questions,
03:15you were put in the care system.
03:16Yeah.
03:16What does she say to you?
03:17What do we know?
03:18Because there are three potential fathers.
03:19Is that right?
03:20Yeah.
03:20As far as I know, like, when I first met her,
03:22she told me, uh, Julian, he was my father.
03:26Mm-hmm.
03:26And, um, then Julian said that he wasn't.
03:31And, um, then she mentioned that, uh,
03:33Jonathan was another possibility.
03:36And, um, I got through it.
03:38And then through Jonathan,
03:39I found out that Scott was another possibility.
03:42Now, you're smiling, right?
03:44But for you, today must be everything you want it to be,
03:49but it must also be very scary.
03:50It is, yeah.
03:52Jonathan is here, done a DNA test.
03:54Uh, Scott is here, done a DNA test.
03:56Julian can't be, but we've done a swab.
03:58So we potentially have the three guys,
04:02two of whom she said are and then has changed her mind.
04:05What does it mean to know that hopefully today
04:08you'll get a definitive answer?
04:10Oh, like, it means everything, like, you know what I mean?
04:13It'll dictate on what I do with the rest of my life.
04:16What's your relationship like with your mum?
04:17What do you make of this woman?
04:19Uh, to be honest, I, yeah.
04:21Why?
04:22Just, just purely hate her, because of the way, like,
04:25the way she went on.
04:27Because even when I met her, like, at the bus station,
04:30for once she was, like, right.
04:33And, er, then, erm...
04:35I guess she wanted her to explain things to you.
04:37Yeah, yeah, I was expecting, like,
04:39the normal love that her mother would give, like,
04:41you know what I mean, run over, hug me and all that.
04:43There was none of that.
04:44I remember reading this morning that you said that
04:46you felt like she just almost rejected you again there,
04:51at that moment when you most needed her to step up and go,
04:54do you know what, it was difficult for me,
04:57it wasn't a good time, I'm in there,
05:00I put you in that for your own safety,
05:01now we can build.
05:02She's sort of...
05:03She's let you down again?
05:04Yeah, she is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:06Yeah, because I went over, after, like, I got to know her,
05:08went over, and, er, I was living with her for six weeks,
05:12and, like, even, yeah, I could just tell after a couple of weeks,
05:16it's kind of like, she got a toy,
05:18and she got bored of it, you know what I mean?
05:20Yeah.
05:20And then she just, er...
05:21That's really, I think that's actually probably
05:22one of the truest things I've heard for a long time.
05:24Yeah, she got a toy and then she was bored of it.
05:26Erm, the three people, Scott, Julian, Jonathan,
05:30erm, any idea in your mind
05:33which one of those three is your father?
05:35Er, no, but...
05:38Well, yeah, I think, like, I think, to be honest, it's Scott.
05:42But, like, obviously, I don't know.
05:45Jonathan is going to be the first guy I meet on the stage.
05:48I know you'll be sitting here watching this
05:50and we'll bring you at a point when you're comfortable.
05:53Yeah.
05:53Erm, who would be the best person for you to be?
05:58The son of...
06:00Erm...
06:01I, well, I've never met him near him, like,
06:02but, erm, I'd rather, like, Scott or Jonathan to be my father,
06:07like, you know, man.
06:07Because I've talked to Julian and he's kind of like...
06:11I'm just going to be, Graham, very quickly.
06:13What an incredible young man, somebody who's waited 21 years.
06:15I mean, I know about nerves, trust me, and maybe that's what the smile is.
06:19But I would say this.
06:20Whoever it is, erm, is going to be, I guess, extremely happy to have a son like you.
06:26Your mum has played a lot of games.
06:28I guess there'll be things that you would want to say with her.
06:31What I'm going to do very simply, buddy, is meet Jonathan, meet your mum,
06:35erm, and meet, erm, Scott as well.
06:38Julian can't be here, but he's done a swab.
06:39Erm, at any point you want to come in, tell Graham,
06:41any point you want to stay out, whatever, it's for you, all right?
06:43Give him a round of applause.
06:44We're going to head to the stage and speak to Jonathan.
06:50I've got to say, what an incredible, incredible young man.
06:54Very likeable, 21 years of age.
06:56We all take it for granted that we know who our parents are.
06:58This young man here today on the Jeremy Kyle Show, Eamon,
07:01waiting to find out which of three men who have done a DNA test
07:04are indeed his father.
07:05Quite a lot to say about his mother.
07:06He's going to be watching this unfold from the green room.
07:09He mentioned three fathers.
07:11The first one that we're going to meet today,
07:12who was with his mum, Kath, for two years.
07:15A relationship he describes as the biggest mistake of his life.
07:17Jonathan is first on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
07:19Give him a round of applause.
07:24Erm, did you hear what he said?
07:30I did, yes.
07:31Likeable young man.
07:32He is, yeah.
07:32I really feel sorry for him.
07:33He's 38 years of age.
07:35You said Kath is an ex.
07:37Yep.
07:37I was with Kath for two years.
07:39You describe it as the biggest mistake of your life.
07:41Before we talk about the relationship, quick question.
07:43Have you ever been told by this woman that that kid could be yours?
07:47No.
07:49She's never actually said anything to me.
07:52Has she ever told him, do you think, that you're the father?
07:55Possibly.
07:56When I was with Kath, she always said Julian was Eamon's dad.
08:01That's all she ever said to me.
08:05What sort of mother is she?
08:06Useless mum.
08:07Useless mum.
08:08Why?
08:09Because she hadn't ever did anything when we were together for the children.
08:12Do you have kids with her?
08:13I've got another two, another two, three.
08:16You said that they're in care, aren't they?
08:18They are, yes.
08:20Catherine was lazy, did nothing around the house.
08:22She had children, but soon got bored.
08:23She's awful.
08:24She's a waste of space.
08:25Everybody else is to blame.
08:27You knew nothing about Eamon.
08:28Did nothing at all.
08:29And you meet a young man like that, and I meet a lot of people, and I actually genuinely think,
08:34fair play, you know?
08:35I would say he's a product that's come out rather well at that age, don't you?
08:38Yeah, yeah, it is.
08:39Would she know who the father of her son is?
08:42I think she knows deep down who the father is.
08:43Well, then why the hell doesn't she tell him?
08:45I don't know.
08:45She's handed him for 20 years, meets him, and doesn't give him the truth.
08:48She likes to play mind games with people and tell that many lies.
08:50I mean, I've read this young man has been told, well, he believes it's Scott.
08:55He's been told it's Julian.
08:56I wanted to find out what your situation is, really.
09:00You're slightly complicated, which I rather love.
09:03You're now with Amanda.
09:04I am.
09:05Who really is the sworn enemy of Kath.
09:07Yep.
09:07Why is that?
09:08Because they grew up together when they were younger.
09:11They know each other.
09:12What does Amanda make of her?
09:13Oh, well, we'll hear about that later.
09:16So, for you, this lady is what?
09:18How would you best sum up Eamon's mother?
09:21Useful.
09:22She said she's a selfish liar.
09:24It's all about the drama.
09:26You said something I've never heard before on the Jeremy Carr show.
09:29You have to take some responsibility.
09:30You all do.
09:31You say, this is one of the women in the world that should have had her tubes tied.
09:34Yeah.
09:35Cast on the Jeremy Carr show that way.
09:44Sit down, you got worth it.
09:45I got worth it.
09:47No.
09:47Really?
09:48Waste of space.
09:49Waste of space.
09:50You broke my nose because I won't buy ten cigs out of child benefit.
09:54Now, your hands round my throat.
09:57Yeah, really.
09:57And as I wait to get your hands off my throat, I caught your head.
10:00You head-bottied me, you lying sack of ****.
10:03Can I make a point, you foul-mouthed whatever you want to be called?
10:06You're out here having a go at him about whatever.
10:09Don't you think it's about your kid in that green room who doesn't know his father is at 21?
10:15Because really, what's he doing here?
10:17I don't know.
10:18Okay, wait one second.
10:19All right, so let her shut up.
10:21You get in there and shut up.
10:22You're not in your box.
10:23That's what you talk to you.
10:24You come near me and I'm warning you.
10:26Yeah, go on.
10:26What are you going to do?
10:27Get in there until I'm ready.
10:30Who's his father then?
10:31Julian.
10:32How sure are you?
10:33One billion million as much percent as you can say.
10:37Why'd you tell him?
10:38Is it Scott there in the audience?
10:39Why'd you tell him Scott was his father?
10:41Why did he just tell me?
10:42Because I'll buy him over you any time.
10:44Why'd you tell him Scott was his father?
10:45Well, you don't believe what you want.
10:46I know it.
10:47Come on.
10:48Have you ever told him Jonathan's his father?
10:50Have I, hell.
10:50So you've only ever told him Julian, yeah?
10:52Julian.
10:52You're absolutely full of rubbish.
10:55Sit down.
10:55Can you go to the green...
10:56Sit down.
10:57Can you go to the green room?
10:58Can you just do me a favour?
10:59Can you open that up, Matt, please?
11:00Now.
11:02How you doing?
11:03Fine.
11:04Did this woman, your mother, ever tell you Jonathan was your father?
11:09Yeah, she told me she was a possibility.
11:11No, I didn't.
11:11Oh, you think it's funny, do you?
11:13Yeah, you did.
11:13Part your backside and shut up.
11:15Have you ever been...
11:15No.
11:16Yeah, seriously.
11:17Sit down.
11:17No.
11:18And do one, whatever.
11:20How many fathers could there be?
11:21You told me it could have been Jonathan as well.
11:23You've told him all three.
11:24I've told him one.
11:26Help me out, Naaman.
11:28You told me two.
11:29You told me Julian and Jonathan.
11:31You wish.
11:33And then Jonathan.
11:34You wish.
11:34What does that mean?
11:35You know what trouble you caused.
11:38Oh, my God.
11:41While you were at my house.
11:42Eamon, do me a favour.
11:44Do me a favour.
11:45Just stay calm.
11:46Do you not think you have some responsibility?
11:49I tried with him.
11:50What do you mean you tried with him?
11:52You gave him away.
11:54I gave him away because his father was getting more and more aggressive.
11:58Didn't stop you going out and having more sex with more people
12:00and more babies that were taken into care.
12:02How many kids have you got?
12:04Go on.
12:05Tell him.
12:05Nine.
12:06And where are the nine?
12:07Where are the nine?
12:09In care.
12:10Wow.
12:11And you think it's funny?
12:12It's not about being funny.
12:14It's about being a layabout who's been no good as a mother.
12:18Jonathan, you were with this.
12:20I know.
12:20Worst mistake of my life.
12:21I mean, I've moved on.
12:22I'm with somebody else.
12:23I've been with her 15 years.
12:25And I've got children with her.
12:26You know, Julian, a billion percent Eamon, your father.
12:29Right, that's from your mother on camera.
12:31My relationship with Catherine was a disaster.
12:34Whilst I was at work, she was lazy.
12:36She did nothing around the house.
12:38One day I came home to a note saying,
12:39children in care, I've done one.
12:41It broke my heart as I was in the process of going for custody.
12:44As far as I'm concerned, I am 100% sure Eamon is my son.
12:49She, Catherine, is a terrible mother who plays games with people's lives.
12:53Does that resonate in your small brain at all?
12:55No.
12:56No, I'm sorry.
12:56Because he was the one that was playing games.
12:57Back after this break.
12:58Don't go anywhere.
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13:02and none of them were weird?
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13:50Thank you very much for that you're walking back.
13:52Before the break, talking to Jonathan, the mother of the year.
13:54Kath, you don't seem to have any feeling at all
13:57that you might have not done enough for this kid.
13:59He told me, you've told him Jonathan is his father.
14:02He told me, you've told him Julian is his father.
14:05A man you've stood on stage and said is a billion percent his father, yeah?
14:07Yeah.
14:08He is his father.
14:10I told him.
14:11So that's enough?
14:13We spend nights and nights till early hours of the morning.
14:17He came to find you though.
14:18Sat up talking.
14:19No, he didn't.
14:19I found him.
14:20Then why have you let him go?
14:21Why does he say that he felt like he was a toy,
14:23that when you'd had your fun, he just was pushed to one side again?
14:27Why did that happen if you're such a good mother?
14:30What it was, the first time he'd come, he stayed for five weeks.
14:35Are you a good mother?
14:38I try to be the best I can.
14:40Nine in care.
14:42You're now with Amanda, who you used to know growing up.
14:44Amanda's next on the show.
14:46She's coming this way.
14:47Give her a round of applause.
14:50Oh no, can you dare?
14:52I dare you.
14:53I dare you.
14:54Oh, can you say you're a good mother when you've had nine kids
14:57and none of them live with you?
14:58Well, sit down.
14:59Sit down.
15:01What do you do?
15:02Sit down.
15:03You used to charge him 10 quick for sake, you cheap.
15:07I've got seven kids and every one of my kids live with me.
15:10Where are yours?
15:11In care system.
15:11Well, every one of you are with you.
15:12Yeah, every one of my kids live with me.
15:14You knew this girl growing up, right?
15:16Yeah, I did.
15:16No, she didn't.
15:17Yeah, I did.
15:17We used to have got the same mistakes.
15:19Nice.
15:20Reputation?
15:20Worse luck.
15:21Horrible reputation.
15:23Why were you allowed to have nine children?
15:24I don't know the much more blindfolded off.
15:27Have you seen your face?
15:29Yeah, I'm not the old toilet.
15:30I don't tell them, but I know I look after my kids.
15:32Exactly.
15:33Exactly.
15:34My kids are in my care of where are yours?
15:36Out there somewhere.
15:37I don't know where all the parents are.
15:38Who do you think the father is wonderful?
15:39By the way, can I say it again?
15:41What an incredible kid to have come from all of this.
15:43Yeah, he is.
15:4321 years of Asia, it's about him.
15:45He gets the truth.
15:46I mean, she said to him, Jonathan, your husband, was the father.
15:49He's definitely not, didn't meet you until 97, he was born in 94.
15:53And you met him in 97, he was sort of school.
15:55So I'll be able to be his father.
15:57One billion percent, she told him.
15:58What, you're more like you told him.
16:00I mean, since you two have been doing no, but slagging me off over Facebook.
16:05Oh, I knew we'd get to Facebook.
16:07You didn't have told us, but you told the truth.
16:11Did you have an affair with Jonathan behind their back?
16:13Did I, yeah, because they weren't even together.
16:15So you've been with...
16:16I had sex with you two days before you went off with her.
16:20I don't think so.
16:21I don't think so.
16:23Everybody's having a lot of sex.
16:25We swirled in about May 2000.
16:29Yeah?
16:29And I went nearly a year before I met anybody.
16:32And that was Amanda.
16:33You were our friends.
16:35Yeah.
16:36That's where I was staying with you.
16:38Anyway, back to the story before I lose the will to live.
16:41She's told Julian, well, she said on this stage, Julian, a billion percent.
16:46She's told Jonathan, well, she's told him, Jonathan, your husband of 14 years is the father.
16:51You've come up with another name.
16:52Why do you think it's Scott?
16:54Because he looks double of him.
16:55Oh.
16:56And she slept with him.
16:58Slept with who?
16:59Scott, yes.
16:59You think it's one big joke, you, don't you?
17:01No, this is ridiculous.
17:03I'm laughing because it's ridiculous.
17:05Yeah, your behaviour's ridiculous.
17:07We wouldn't be here.
17:08I was with Scott when I was 13.
17:10No, you weren't.
17:11You were older than that.
17:12No, I wasn't.
17:13Yeah, you weren't.
17:13I've grown up with Scott.
17:14I used to live on the same street.
17:15I should know.
17:17He was on the corner of my street, so there you go.
17:20There is, there is, there is quite, I know you're, alright, can I, it is called the Jeremy
17:23Carl Show, but there is quite a facial similarity between you and Eamon.
17:27Were you ever told you were the father?
17:28No.
17:29I only found out over Facebook.
17:31You found out over Facebook?
17:32Yeah.
17:32When you look at her, did you sleep with her?
17:34Did you as well?
17:35Not once.
17:36You haven't slept with her?
17:37No.
17:38Well, sorry, why have you done it?
17:40I haven't got all the money in the world.
17:42What the hell have I spent money on you doing a DNA test if you've never done anything with
17:45her?
17:45Sorry, sorry.
17:46You've never had sex with him?
17:48No.
17:48And I've spent sex after a quid on a DNA test.
17:53So, so it's not him?
17:55At all?
17:56No.
17:57Is it him?
17:58No.
17:58Who is it?
17:59Julian.
18:01Give me the Scott DNA.
18:03How did this happen?
18:05Do you know about this?
18:09Eamon, this cost me money, this dish.
18:11You never had sex with him, she said.
18:13So you never had sex?
18:15No.
18:15Well, why have we done a DNA test?
18:18I've no idea.
18:19Neither have I.
18:21Johnny, why have we done a DNA test?
18:23You don't know.
18:24The producer, where is the producer?
18:26Get the producer.
18:27Seriously, get the producer.
18:29Well, this is a surprise.
18:30You're not the biological father.
18:33Where's the producer?
18:33Get me the producer.
18:35Now, get me the producer.
18:37Do you know what I said?
18:38Where's the producer?
18:41Don't think you're hiding.
18:42Where's the producer?
18:43I'm telling you, categorically, I'm not spending money on a DNA test with a potential father.
18:52Eamon was told, Eamon was told that Scott was a potential father.
18:56Eamon was told?
18:57Eamon, were you told that Scott was a potential father?
18:59Yeah.
19:00Ah, which would mean she's such a liar that she wouldn't be able to tell the truth.
19:03So it's not your fault?
19:04No.
19:04All right.
19:05All right.
19:06Give her a round of applause, the producer.
19:07I think she's actually right.
19:08I'm actually.
19:09Basically, what she's saying, which is fair enough.
19:12She's saying, because you were told that.
19:14Did she tell you, Eamon, did your mother?
19:16Eamon, hello.
19:17Did your mother tell you Scott was the father as well?
19:20No, no, I heard through Amanda.
19:24Well, thanks, Amanda.
19:26Anyway, Scott, you can leave if you want.
19:28You're not the barlogger.
19:29Get a car or whatever, and I'd run as far away from here as possible.
19:33Well done for not seeing him with her.
19:34Give Scott a round of applause.
19:35And go, Scott.
19:37Fine, you can go.
19:38Right, so, back to the story.
19:41You have had sex with Jonathan.
19:43You have had sex with Julian.
19:45Yes.
19:45You are one billion percent sure it's Julian.
19:49We've got somebody else coming out.
19:50This isn't somebody you've slept with.
19:51This is your mother.
19:52It's Maureen on the Jeremy Kyle show.
19:53She's coming that way.
20:03Lauren, how are you?
20:05I'm fine, thank you.
20:06What do you make of this?
20:07E is a liar.
20:09Go on.
20:10And she has nothing to do with anything.
20:13How is E a liar?
20:15Your daughter has nine children from nine different men, and they're all in care.
20:19Do you not think that's sick?
20:22No, I don't think it's sick.
20:25I ain't got nine kids.
20:26Why didn't you teach her?
20:27Don't get upset with me, Maureen.
20:29Why didn't you teach your daughter to not have so much unprotected sex and be a better...
20:34What?
20:34She's my granddaughter.
20:36All right, so you raised her.
20:37I'm being honest.
20:38You raised her.
20:39I raised her from two weeks old.
20:41What?
20:42I raised her from being two weeks old.
20:45Nine kids in care.
20:46Yeah, but not to nine different men, like you are saying that.
20:49Oh, well, that makes it all brilliant, then, doesn't it?
20:52He battered me, and so did Eamon's dad.
20:54I don't think so.
20:55I've been with you and he's not going to feed on me.
20:57I've never had to feed on me.
20:58I can't.
20:59Never had to feed on me.
20:59I can't.
21:00I have nine.
21:01I have nothing.
21:03I have nothing.
21:04Oh, I don't know.
21:04I have nothing.
21:06How did he batter you?
21:07He's telling you now.
21:08If he's going to bother anyone, I've been with him along with you.
21:11You mother knew?
21:11What?
21:12Yes.
21:13You should be.
21:14Sorry, wait a sec.
21:15I was more than you.
21:15Excuse me.
21:16Hold on a second.
21:16Oh, you got me.
21:17I think so.
21:17It's not just a big fat waste of space, you.
21:20You seen our face, love?
21:22Better than I know.
21:23She'll be browned at Beth, you.
21:25He knows who his father is.
21:28Oh, right.
21:28That little brat on there.
21:30Oh, my God.
21:32Hey, I don't care.
21:33Do you know something?
21:35Do you know something?
21:36I don't care if I get letters of complaint.
21:38It's absolutely obvious why she's turned out,
21:41because you're even damn well worse, love.
21:44That's appalling.
21:45What you've just said.
21:46Oh, my God.
21:47Is he?
21:48I don't know what I heard of.
21:49Give Adrian a round of applause.
21:57You're a...
21:58How on earth?
21:59I bet you're so embarrassed, aren't you?
22:01Yeah.
22:01Why would you call him a brat?
22:03He is.
22:04A brat.
22:04He spent 21 years in care,
22:06because your granddaughter puts it around,
22:08and he doesn't know who his father is.
22:09Who's his father, then?
22:10All right, there we go.
22:11All right, you go.
22:12Julian is his father.
22:14A billion percent?
22:15Yes.
22:15Then where there has Julian been all his life?
22:18A billion percent.
22:18What?
22:19A billion percent.
22:21A billion percent?
22:23Yes.
22:25Julian is his father.
22:27Um, Eamon, I was absolutely telling the truth when I said,
22:34you are a credit.
22:35I want to know why you threw me out on, anyway.
22:39You know why I threw you out.
22:41What were you doing?
22:42You threatened to trash my home.
22:44Yes, I did.
22:45When?
22:45Because I were there.
22:46The Sunday morning.
22:48What was it?
22:49What did you stop?
22:50I didn't threaten to trash your home.
22:51Yes, you did.
22:52Maybe he's angry.
22:53Maybe he's hacked off.
22:54Maybe you owe him.
22:55Maybe you weren't there.
22:56Maybe you had a bad time in care, you selfish man.
22:59Maybe he needed his mother back.
23:01But then looking at your grandmother,
23:02I know where it comes from.
23:03The both of you are a billion percent sure, by the way,
23:06that apparently this brat, his father is Julian.
23:09Is that right?
23:09Yeah.
23:10I'm going to go to an ad break.
23:11We've got two more people.
23:12Is it Jonathan?
23:13You were told it was Jonathan.
23:14Is it Julian?
23:15They say yes, a billion percent.
23:17He's also been told that.
23:18The only thing we know so far
23:20is that his father is neither him nor me.
23:22We're back next.
23:23Don't go anywhere.
23:24Why are you not off that chair
23:25getting to your son to talk to him?
23:27Why are you sat here still blaming everybody but yourself?
23:31Because I'm going, but you're not, are you?
23:33Selfish man.
23:34You are not a mother.
23:51Hello.
23:52Jeremy God.
23:52Hello.
23:53Come with me.
23:54Get your head up.
23:55Get yourself sat up today.
23:57I came to get down.
23:59I came to get down.
24:00Come on there, big boy.
24:02I've waited all morning for this.
24:03Bring it on!
24:06That's such a mad motion!
24:10Sorry, Jeremy.
24:15I don't know that!
24:24You're supposed to go,
24:26It's all right, Jez.
24:27Go there!
24:28Shut up!
24:32Where are you going now?
24:33Go for a blazer a minute.
24:35You're going the wrong day.
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25:13Welcome back.
25:14This started as a story about a 21-year-old kid
25:17who was put into care by his mother
25:19because she was in whatever sort of relationship.
25:21A mother who's had nine kids,
25:23all of whom are in care.
25:26By his words and others,
25:28he's been told that it could be Jonathan,
25:30who sat next to you Eamonn,
25:31who has, in his own words,
25:33been with Kath for two years,
25:35it was a big mistake,
25:36and has been with Amanda for 15.
25:39You've also been told,
25:40well, you two are one billion percent sure?
25:43Yes.
25:43But it's Julian.
25:45Yes.
25:46Right.
25:47What does that mean to you,
25:48that they're a billion percent sure?
25:49Do you believe a word they say?
25:50No.
25:51I don't.
25:52Sorry.
25:52I don't believe it,
25:53because when I was living with her,
25:55she kept her,
25:56she said that Julian was my father.
25:58Then Julian said he wasn't my father.
26:00And then she mentioned Jonathan.
26:02How do you manage to look so calm?
26:06Good kid, isn't he?
26:07Just, really.
26:11I don't know why you're holding your hand out.
26:13You called him a brat.
26:13What sort of grandmother have you been to the brat?
26:15How can Jonathan be his father?
26:19Oh, you're going to have a go at Jonathan now?
26:20Your daughter told Eamonn that Jonathan was.
26:23I did not.
26:24What, so he's making that up?
26:25Yes.
26:26Yes.
26:27Yeah, yeah.
26:27What, the one on drugs and alcohol?
26:30Who?
26:31Eamonn.
26:31What?
26:32Oh, my God.
26:33I'll tell you what, love,
26:34go look in the mirror,
26:35because he looks more switched on
26:36than your little left toenail.
26:37Seriously, let me tell you.
26:39Are you doing, are you wrong?
26:43I know he smoked weed.
26:45No, no, I know he smoked weed.
26:46I'm not going to condone it.
26:48Tell me when you were staying with your mother.
26:49This is brilliant.
26:50Who lit your cigarette and smoked weed with you?
26:53Oh, yes, that was you, wasn't it?
26:55Another thing you failed in the mother of the world thing.
26:58You're supposed to tell them not to have an eye on kids
27:00and not to do drugs.
27:02Are you on drugs?
27:03I'm not hell as on drugs.
27:05I don't know where I live.
27:05I've never ever taken drugs.
27:07Why didn't you actually get that into her?
27:09Never ever.
27:10Why didn't you get that into her?
27:11Because you're on drugs, aren't you?
27:13No.
27:13No.
27:14Well, you don't smoke out of it?
27:16You're such a liar.
27:17The DNA test, you were told by her
27:19that Jonathan was indeed your father.
27:22We've knocked out, Scott.
27:22The DNA test was not saying that Jonathan
27:25is not your biological father.
27:29You all right?
27:29Yeah, I'm told.
27:30What do you say thank you?
27:32A billion per...
27:32Sorry Jonathan, let's give you that.
27:34No, it is.
27:34Just in case she runs around wherever telling everybody.
27:38Now, Julian, I just want to give you that statement again
27:40because Julian, who they are a billion percent sure is your father.
27:43There was a statement earlier, my relationship with Kat was a disaster.
27:46Whilst I was at work she was lazy and did nothing around the house.
27:48That's another thing you should have taught her.
27:49One day I came home to a note saying, children in care, I'm gone.
27:53It broke my heart as I was in the process of going for custody.
27:55As far as I'm concerned, I'm 100% sure Eamon is my son.
27:59Katherine is a terrible mother who plays games with people's lives.
28:02You've been told that Julian's your father.
28:05Yeah.
28:05Yeah?
28:06Yeah.
28:08And you say you've always told him this, yeah?
28:10Yeah.
28:11Do you love your son?
28:13I do love him.
28:14You've got a funny way of showing it, love.
28:15He's 21 years of age and he's waited all of that time to find out
28:18the DNA test results show that Julian...
28:24Sometimes on this show words fail me.
28:26You are disgusting.
28:28Julian is not his biological father.
28:31You are a vile, horrible, disgusting woman.
28:34I don't know.
28:35I didn't go with anybody else but Julian.
28:37What if you did if Julian's not his dad?
28:40Still supporting your...
28:43It's not about you two, it's about him, isn't it?
28:46Still defending your daughter, are you?
28:48You are a billion percent.
28:49Come on.
28:50A billion.
28:51Come on, a billion percent.
28:53A billion.
28:53How many more are there out there?
28:55Mother, are you kidding me?
28:57I know you are.
28:58Useless mother.
29:00You should have told him the truth.
29:01Show your face, you.
29:03You've failed this boy your entire life.
29:05You've got one chance because you know who the father is, don't you?
29:09I know it was Julian.
29:12She's doing me on that.
29:16The probability of paternity is calculated to be naught percent.
29:20It's not Julian.
29:21Why are you not off that chair getting to your son to talk to him?
29:24Why are you sat here still blaming everybody but yourself?
29:28Because I'm going but you're not, are you?
29:30Selfish mare.
29:31Selfish mare.
29:31You are not a mother.
29:33You're not even going to move, are you?
29:34You don't even give enough about him, do you?
29:37He's a good boy.
29:39He's been brought up in a castle.
29:40What?
29:41You know, ask his other sibling.
29:44Why don't you look, why don't you look at him?
29:45Why don't you find in your heart and your soul that you've messed up nine children's lives?
29:50He told me he didn't want nothing to do with me because I kicked him out.
29:53Well I'm not damn well surprised but you've got a chance, haven't you?
29:55You've got a chance to say to that boy, I'll help you find her you daddies.
29:59But now you sit there with your grandmother blaming everybody else for your inability because
30:04of your promiscuousness to defend and look after the things that you create.
30:08Well I'm going to make sure that you two who disgust everybody in this room have nothing
30:13whatsoever to do with him because you are awful.
30:16Awful.
30:17Awful.
30:18Get out of that.
30:20Awful.
30:23I'll tell you what I know.
30:24I'll tell you what I know.
30:25It's not over.
30:26I'll tell you what I know.
30:28She's disgusting.
30:29I'm really, really sorry.
30:31And I, and I...
30:32Right, look.
30:34Any mother worth of salt would have been around here like anything.
30:37I, I said it earlier.
30:38You're a credit with what you've been through.
30:41Who followed him out, not his mother.
30:42I promise you we will do everything that we can as a show to find who your father is.
30:50A billion percent.
30:54I'm sorry mate.
30:55I would have...
30:56What?
30:57It's grand.
30:58It's not grand at all.
30:59No it's not.
30:59When you sit and you watch that happening and unfolding and you see that that's your mother.
31:04That's your grandmother.
31:05What do you think?
31:09I just, I don't even know what to say.
31:12Like, I just hate them.
31:13You know what I mean?
31:16Somebody out there is going to be a very proud person.
31:18I don't believe she has any idea who it is.
31:21I don't...
31:21I'm being serious.
31:22I don't know, Will.
31:23I mean, what, what am I supposed to do?
31:25What am I supposed to beg this?
31:26Oh, is she coming now?
31:27Is she?
31:28I'll be well proud of him.
31:29Can you do me a favour?
31:30Don't shout.
31:31Don't worry.
31:32I won't.
31:33I'm just astounded.
31:35Amanda, move over there a sec.
31:37Go on, sit down.
31:38What do you want?
31:40What do you want?
31:41I'll start doing.
31:43Go on, then.
31:44Go on, then.
31:46I'll stay out of it.
31:47Go on.
31:49Where were they?
31:50Chris, come on.
31:52I...
31:54didn't sleep with anybody else.
31:57Are you serious?
31:59Are you serious, Link?
32:02I am.
32:03You're serious.
32:04All right, all right.
32:05So, Julian's me one billion percent on Friday, yeah?
32:09Well, there you go.
32:09He's not.
32:10So, who else is there?
32:12How many more?
32:15You owe him this, darling.
32:16You've got nothing to say, have you?
32:18You owe him this.
32:20You're truing me out onto the streets, yeah?
32:22You say you love me.
32:24Right?
32:25You've made no attempt to...
32:26You've made no attempt to contact me
32:28when I was living on the streets.
32:30Right?
32:32What...
32:32What...
32:33Like, what...
32:33What attempt have you made to communicate with me
32:36before I...
32:38I...
32:38text Jeremy Kyle?
32:41Give him a name.
32:43Give him a name.
32:46You didn't have sex with anybody else?
32:48Were you so off your face or you lost count that you don't know?
32:52Because, darling, it's disgusting.
32:54She doesn't even know.
32:55She's trying to tinker it in her head.
32:57Do you know what, Eamon?
32:57Do you know what, Eamon?
32:59You're absolutely spot on.
33:00You don't know, do you?
33:02You don't, do you?
33:08Answer the question.
33:09Well, come on.
33:09Come on.
33:10You had loads to be saying when you were kicking me out,
33:11so what have you got to say now?
33:16I think he's brilliant.
33:17Yeah, definitely.
33:18I think you're...
33:19I would.
33:20...beneath contempt.
33:21Give him a name.
33:23Give him a name.
33:29Are you gonna say anything at all?
33:31Give him a name.
33:32Kurt's got his tongue now.
33:33Kurt's got a tongue now.
33:34You haven't got one, have you?
33:38Who is it?
33:41Are you scared to say it?
33:43Or you can't remember?
33:46God!
33:47You can't do this to this boy.
33:50Who is it?
33:54Who is it?
33:58Well, say something, will you?
34:03Why did you come back here if you don't have anything to say?
34:08I'll talk to him off camera.
34:11Do you have a name off camera?
34:14Off camera.
34:19Do you have any ideas that you'll tell him off camera?
34:27Do you?
34:30Because he's not gonna want to talk to you unless he knows there's something tangible to head towards.
34:36Have you got something off camera you can tell him that will help him help us find out who his
34:41father is?
34:42Yes or no?
34:49Well, if I just say yes or no, I f***ing hated it.
34:54I swear to God, like, just answer the question.
34:57I will.
34:58I'll talk to you off camera.
35:00Yeah, right, so answer your question.
35:01Do you have something that means that it's worth me and Graham setting up a meeting for you two to
35:06talk?
35:07Do you have something to give him that might help him discover who his father is?
35:11Yes or no?
35:12I have an idea.
35:14Okay.
35:15Do you want to do that?
35:16No.
35:17Okay.
35:18I promise you one thing.
35:19The full might of this show and every resource that I have will help you find out if she can
35:23give you something.
35:24Graham's gonna facilitate that, alright?
35:26Okay.
35:26Absolutely, and I mean this, incredible young man for what you've gone through and I think and I hope that
35:31we can help but, darling listen, I shouted plenty of you because nine kids in care?
35:39Maybe you're consumed by guilt.
35:41You just did the right thing for the first time this morning.
35:43See that through with Graham, please, yes?
35:45Give him a round of applause.
35:46Nice to meet you.
35:47Thank you all.
35:52What an amazing kid.
35:53We will do all that we can.
35:54If she gives him some information there with Graham, we will do everything as a team to find out his
36:00father.
36:00Good luck to him.
36:01Right, my next guest today, Angela, is here to find out once and for all if a partner Peter has
36:05been cheating on her as she has strongly suspected for a long time.
36:08Now, Angela will admit she had her doubts about Peter from the beginning of their relationship and says she is
36:12fully prepared to throw him out of their family home if he fails the lie detector.
36:16The truth is a lot of people come here and they say that, you know, if he fails, if she
36:19does this, I'm out of it.
36:20This woman apparently means it.
36:21Angela is next on the Jeremy Kyle show that way.
36:29How are you doing?
36:33Okay.
36:34So are you one of those people that just says it?
36:36No.
36:37No, certainly not.
36:38Let's talk about you.
36:40I mean, this is not like your archetypal Jeremy Kyle relationship because most people on this show have been together
36:44three weeks, already got a house, four babies.
36:46It's all going wrong.
36:47You have been with Peter for 11 years.
36:49You have four children together.
36:51Yep.
36:53How did you meet?
36:54At a pub.
36:55Right.
36:56I was a barber at a pub and he was someone that came and visited the pub.
37:01Isn't it true that the landlord went, I don't think so, love?
37:04Yeah.
37:05He wronged me about him.
37:06What did he say?
37:07He turned.
37:08Basically, he could get rid of barmaids within 15 minutes.
37:11So, he just told me to be careful.
37:13He said he's a wronger.
37:14No, he's a wronger.
37:15Just keep on your toes because he's very quick.
37:17What's the relationship been like, babe?
37:19Up and down.
37:20Up and down.
37:20When it's good, it's good.
37:22When it's bad, it's terrible.
37:23Isn't it true that when he met you, he told you you were single, he started dating him
37:26and six months afterwards, you discovered he was still married?
37:29Yeah.
37:30Is he still married?
37:31I don't know.
37:32You don't know?
37:33I don't know, no.
37:33You are still married, aren't you?
37:35I think so.
37:36What?
37:37I think so.
37:39You think so?
37:40He thinks it's funny, yeah?
37:41I don't want to see him anyway.
37:42Put that picture away, Matt.
37:43Thank you very much.
37:43Right, so, he disappeared.
37:45Tell me what leads you to the Jeremy Carr show and a lie detector, which you said actually
37:50was quite interesting.
37:51If he fails...
37:52He's gone.
37:53Yeah, but why?
37:54Why now?
37:56I suppose because it's just too much.
37:58Why is it?
38:00Because it's the estate where I live.
38:02It's the estate that I've lived all my life.
38:04Yeah.
38:05And this other person is someone who's never wanted to get on with me and has always been
38:10quite nasty towards me.
38:11So, when we moved there, I turned and said to him, do me a favour and just stay away from
38:15him.
38:16And, of course, he didn't stay away from him and starts talking to him and that.
38:19And then her brother walked past and turned and said, oh, my sister's boyfriend lives
38:24there when I was out shopping from the car.
38:26And I was like, alright.
38:29Any tangible proof?
38:31Have you ever caught him?
38:33I thought I caught him once because I came back from a hospital appointment with my son
38:38and he ran from upstairs downstairs.
38:42And he's never normally upstairs.
38:45He's always normally downstairs.
38:46Did you think he was upstairs having sex?
38:47I think it's upstairs to say it because it's just his face, his whole persona when I
38:51came in.
38:51It was all different and all weird.
38:53But then I dropped the stuff off and I take the car back out because I can't leave the
38:58car outside where I live because I get a ticket.
39:01So, I have to take it back round.
39:02And when I took it back round, I was walking back.
39:04She'd come round the corner and then two weeks after that, someone, a neighbour of mine,
39:08turned and said, what's those s*** doing in your garden?
39:11I ain't got no s***.
39:12My s*** nearly s***.
39:15So, she's got s***.
39:17In terms of you, gut instinct says he's cheating.
39:22Yes.
39:22How long have you believed that?
39:27I've sort of doubted it throughout the relationship, to be honest with you.
39:31We split up when I was six months pregnant with my first, but we got back together again.
39:36But we do keep splitting up and getting back together again.
39:38Physically, it's not great, is it?
39:40No.
39:41Why?
39:41You're hiding behind your hair again, aren't you?
39:43Yeah.
39:44Why?
39:45What's going on?
39:45Well, nothing.
39:46No, it's just nothing.
39:48Nothing.
39:48I can't...
39:49I can't...
39:50Because if he has, he stabbed me in the back so badly.
39:53I just...
39:53I can't be near him.
39:54What was it he said to you in bed?
39:59He's actually...
40:00He's actually said this other person's name in bed before.
40:03In his sleep.
40:04In his sleep or whilst he's having sex with you?
40:06In his sleep.
40:07He's done something else while he was having sex.
40:10He's felt my bra.
40:11Because I always wear a bra in bed.
40:13I don't go to bed without one.
40:16And, erm...
40:17You wear a bra to bed?
40:19In bed, yeah.
40:20Right?
40:21It's a strange concept for you.
40:22It is?
40:23Yeah, because you're on that.
40:24Right?
40:24Well, I've never worn a bra in bed.
40:26No, I wouldn't expect you to.
40:27What?
40:28I wouldn't expect you to.
40:29Unless she was, you know, but we ain't going down that road.
40:31Steve, Steve, have you ever worn a bra in bed?
40:35Are you sure about that?
40:36All right.
40:37You're just trying to get me in trouble now.
40:38I'm not getting you in trouble.
40:39Go on.
40:40And, erm...
40:41So you're wearing your bra in bed?
40:42I didn't just go out bed in a bra.
40:44I was actually dressed.
40:45But then when we started to, you know, and, erm...
40:49You know.
40:50You know.
40:51Well...
40:51But he always leaves a bra on?
40:53I always...
40:53He always leaves a bra on.
40:56Can we get to the story?
40:57Because I need to get past your bra.
40:59You do, don't you?
41:00You seriously do.
41:01I do need to get beyond your bra.
41:03I do need to get beyond your bra.
41:03It felt...
41:04What it was, is if someone's really into you, and then they feel something like they felt
41:08my bra, and then all of a sudden his whole body just sort of like he wasn't into it anymore,
41:12and I was like, right, fine, bye.
41:13And then after that, I don't want to know.
41:15So what you're saying is, is that you don't want him to touch you until you know the truth.
41:20This is on a serious note, very crucial today.
41:21Yeah.
41:22Eleven years together, four kids, but you say, I can't, and...
41:26Quick question.
41:26You talk about this specific one.
41:27We have to be very careful, but...
41:28Yeah.
41:29Would it matter if it was with anybody else?
41:31Is it easier for you if it's somebody else, or if there's any form of cheating, he's gone?
41:35Er...
41:35It'd be a lot easier if it's someone else.
41:39You finished this relationship 24 hours ago before you came to the show, weren't you?
41:43Do you expect him to fail?
41:45Yeah, I do, sort of like.
41:46So literally in about ten minutes, are you going to walk out of here a single mother?
41:49Yep.
41:49And you mean that, don't you?
41:51Peter's on the Jeremy Kahn show, that way.
41:59How are you?
42:03Not too bad.
42:04Erm, I am sick of being accused of cheating.
42:07It's destroying my life.
42:09Yeah.
42:10She takes a minute, she believes all those idiots who live round our way.
42:14What?
42:14She believes the idiots who live round our way.
42:17Erm, so she just listens to...
42:20Gossip.
42:21Why?
42:22Because she's stupid.
42:24That's nice.
42:25I can't see your face now.
42:26How's it to be called on national television by your partner of 11 years?
42:30You're stupid.
42:31You're a liar though, aren't you?
42:32No, I'm not.
42:33You told her you were single and you were married.
42:34You're not divorced yet at all, are you?
42:36No.
42:36Why?
42:36You sure you're not having sex with that woman?
42:38What, why for the...
42:40...woman?
42:43Have you cheated on her?
42:44No.
42:44Not at all?
42:45No.
42:45You're gonna pass this, she's shaking like a dog man, what's the matter with you?
42:48You nervous?
42:49No.
42:51You're gonna pass the test?
42:52Yes.
42:53Not at all.
42:53She says, erm, I'm gonna kick him out, it's over if he's failed, but then you say, I'm tired
43:00of this, I'm...
43:01Not enough.
43:02What, you're gonna walk out anyway?
43:03Not at all.
43:05You mean you've got your bags packed in case you fail, yeah?
43:08No.
43:09Sure about that?
43:10Yeah.
43:11How many people in the audience think this man's gonna pass the test?
43:14Put your hand in the air?
43:15How many people think he's gonna fail?
43:18Oh, the British public...
43:20Right, we're back.
43:20Next with those results.
43:21Hang on, anyway.
43:22Have you had sexual intercourse with the woman in question?
43:25Peter?
43:26Shaky, shifty Peter said no.
43:29Why did you say no, Pete?
43:37Have you been accused of cheating?
43:39Do you need to prove your innocence with a lie detector?
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44:11Thank you, Angela.
44:12Welcome back.
44:12Before the break, talking to Angela and Peter.
44:14Eleven years together, four kids.
44:16You say, Angela, this is massively important to me.
44:19I've heard too much, I believe too much, maybe I'm paranoid, but there's just too much in my mind.
44:23You say, silly woman, listen to rumours, but I've got something else to say to you.
44:28You don't look like you give a damn.
44:30You say, I will pass the lie detector, but she needs to change and I'll walk away for good.
44:34You don't really care, do you?
44:36Not how she's behaving, no.
44:38But she doesn't believe you're telling the truth.
44:41Yes, but when I prove I am, she'll have to change, won't she?
44:43Absolutely.
44:44Do you accept that?
44:45Yeah, I do.
44:46Yeah, I do.
44:46Talk to him.
44:47Tell him how it makes you feel.
44:48Talk to him.
44:48He knows how it makes me feel.
44:49He makes me feel angry, upset.
44:51He knows that until this is sorted, it's just causing masses of grief on where I live and with us.
44:59It just makes life hard.
44:59They're hard-checked.
45:01You shouldn't have spoke to him, should you?
45:04Should I look at the wood?
45:05Yeah.
45:07John says more than to you.
45:08You don't be polite, do you?
45:09No, just say nothing.
45:11No, just say nothing, because they've never spoken to me.
45:13They've ignored me, so I've told you that.
45:15Ignored me for 20 years, so what are you talking to them for?
45:18I've said that all along from day one when we moved in there.
45:21You didn't?
45:22I did, from day one, because I showed you the vehicle parked that side there,
45:25cut that side their house.
45:26So this centres on somebody we can't be specific about, but you say,
45:30I'm out of image at the lad.
45:31I'm settled now.
45:32I love this lady.
45:33I'm sick of being my, that I'll pass it, and then she has to get her head straight.
45:36Let's do those all-important.
45:37Look, William's changing to a woman.
45:38Give him a round of applause.
45:39Thank you very much for doing this.
45:45Thanks, Will.
45:46As so as ever, the questions that were asked of Peter,
45:49the answers that he gave and whether he was telling the truth or not.
45:52At this audience of 200 people, one person, this man in the white shirt,
45:57said that you believed he was telling the truth, yeah?
45:59Yeah.
45:59The rest of you believe that he's failing.
46:01We asked, Peter, since you re-air, started your relationship with Angela five years ago.
46:05We did it like that, and I know you know, because you had a break and you wanted it from
46:08then.
46:09Have you had sexual intercourse with the woman in question?
46:12Peter, shaky, shifty Peter said no.
46:16Why did you say no, Pete?
46:18Sorry?
46:19I haven't.
46:23He was telling the truth, darling.
46:25He was telling the truth.
46:27See?
46:28All of you are wrong.
46:30Since you re-started your relationship with Angela five years ago,
46:33have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
46:34He said no because he was telling the truth.
46:38Do you know what he got?
46:43Yeah.
46:44He got a full house because he got every question right.
46:46Who is there?
46:47Who is there?
46:48Who is there?
46:48Who is there?
46:52I'm sorry.
46:53I'm sorry.
46:54I'm sorry.
46:55I'm sorry.
46:55I'm sorry.
46:55You looked potentially, weren't you?
46:57Yeah.
46:57We'll sort it out.
46:58We'll sort it out.
47:00This was based, I believe, without being super specific on somebody that you didn't like,
47:04that you sociably said good morning to one day.
47:07That person then thought, oh, I can wind her up a bit by talking to him.
47:11He loves you.
47:12Do you know what he said to us?
47:14I packed my bags.
47:15I knew I was telling the truth, right?
47:16Because she does my head in.
47:18Because after 11 years, she should have believed me.
47:19This is about you, love, not him.
47:21Look at him.
47:21And he deserved...
47:22He didn't want to be here at all, this man.
47:24You check his phone, you don't like him going out.
47:26He's done absolutely nothing wrong, and he deserves to be allowed to breathe a bit.
47:30Because I believe one thing, Pete, that he will do one in a minute, won't you?
47:34Yeah.
47:35But enough.
47:36Talk to her.
47:37She knows.
47:38She's been told.
47:39She's got a lot of repayments, don't you?
47:41You love her, don't you?
47:42Yeah.
47:44She took a lot out...
47:45No, no, but listen to me.
47:45Shut up and listen.
47:46He...
47:47It took a lot out of him, this.
47:49Mm-hmm.
47:50It's taken everything out of me.
47:52Tell her.
47:52Do you know it's it?
47:54She said I was going to walk.
47:55You don't talk.
47:57You don't talk.
47:58You don't talk.
47:58You just fly off, and you say, well, that's it, they're wrong this, that and the other.
48:02Well, that's because you've been accusing him for five years wrongly, love.
48:05That's why he shuts his mouth.
48:06Oh, fair enough.
48:07But then just stay away from her, because she shouldn't keep saying these things.
48:10No, no, no.
48:11You should allow him to be able to talk to anybody, because you should trust him.
48:14We're going to offer some relationship counselling.
48:16I really appreciate you coming.
48:18All right?
48:18Thank you very much.
48:19Nice couple.
48:19Go that way.
48:20Give him a round of applause.
48:21Thank you very much indeed.
48:24So you can't judge a book by its cover.
48:26You lot.
48:26But one bloke who's very clever thought he was a chief.
48:29You weren't.
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