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00:00On today's show...
00:02You slept with your step-dad behind your mother's back.
00:06I trusted that man as a dad.
00:09He made the move on me.
00:11Do you have full sex with the guy who brought you up for years?
00:14Yeah.
00:16You said she's a terrible mother.
00:17She is.
00:19Oh, no, she is.
00:20Is that why you did it?
00:21The mother, Anne, on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
00:24A lame and a lame little cow!
00:27He says, it did happen between me and Siri.
00:29I said, what happened?
00:30He says, we had sex.
00:33You think he's no good.
00:35You have definitive proof that he's gonna break your sisters up.
00:37But the more you tell her, of course, she sticks her head in the stand and goes, I love him,
00:41he's great.
00:41Pretty much, yeah.
00:42You don't take drugs.
00:43No.
00:43You don't cheat.
00:44No.
00:45You don't work.
00:45You don't care who the hell gives you benefits.
00:47At what point did you wish that this was Prince Charming? Have a look.
00:50Stop telling your lies.
00:51I ain't telling your lies.
00:52Don't tell your lies.
00:53Don't tell your lies.
00:53Don't tell your lies.
00:54I'm telling you.
00:55Whatever.
00:57If anyone's right in front of me, she'll get the same.
00:59We asked, Glenn, since the start of your relationship with Bea, have you had sexual intercourse with anyone else?
01:05He said no.
01:25Thank you very much.
01:26Thank you very much indeed.
01:26Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:28My first guest today, Seri, is here to tell her mother, Anne, that Aparna Arni, the man Seri used to
01:34call dad, has been cheating on the mother with the daughter.
01:39Her.
01:41So, Seri claims that two years ago she slept with Arni behind her mother's back, something he only confessed to
01:46two days ago.
01:47She's here today to prove to her mother that it only happened once and to tell her mum, weirdly, you
01:53need to get Arni out of your life once and for all.
01:55He's no good.
01:57This is seriously, seriously strange.
02:00Seri's on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
02:02Give a round of applause.
02:07Hello.
02:08How are you?
02:10I'm good.
02:12We've sort of seen, certainly, your mother and Arni sometime before on the show.
02:18If I can explain to people watching this.
02:20They came here before because Arni, who's with her mother, sort of step-dad thing, we'll talk about that in
02:27a bit,
02:28was accused of having sex with your auntie, her sister Donna.
02:33He said this is absolutely ridiculous, came to the Jeremy Kyle Show to do a lie detector to prove that
02:39that indeed was wrong.
02:41Take a look at this, my friends.
02:43And this is what's going to give us the answer as to whether anything happened, okay?
02:48Yeah.
02:49Between Arni and Donna.
02:51Yeah?
02:51Yes.
02:52We asked Arni, since the start of your relationship with Anne, have you had sexual intercourse with Donna?
02:56He said no.
02:57Because Arni was telling the truth.
02:59Right.
02:59My apologies.
03:01My apologies, Arni.
03:03Let's point out, your girlfriend never said, it's important for the audience, your girlfriend never said they'd had sex together.
03:09Okay?
03:10But Anne wanted to find that out.
03:11Okay, Anne?
03:12But she did it once again.
03:13Then we asked, since the start of your relationship with Anne, have you had sexual contact with Donna, which is
03:17what you accused him of.
03:18That's the groping.
03:19He said no.
03:20You wanted to know the answer to this.
03:22Anne, he was telling the truth.
03:27We asked Arni, since the start of your relationship with Anne, have you passionately kissed Donna?
03:31Something she said happened?
03:33He said no.
03:33Because your old man was telling the truth throughout the whole test.
03:38Why are you really kind?
03:40You two are in the clear.
03:41Because of all this, I've got to try and make it up with him now.
03:44No, he's been vindicated.
03:45He'll be all right.
03:45He's a good man, aren't he?
03:46He's passed a test.
03:46You two can go home and be loved over tonight.
03:48He came here and he had to do that on national television.
03:51What are you going to say to him, quickly?
03:52Sorry for not believing you.
03:54That's all I tell him.
03:55You can go that way to a life that doesn't involve lies.
03:58And the next time somebody makes an accusation, maybe you want to believe a guy who came
04:01here and proved you.
04:02You two go that way.
04:03Give him a round of applause.
04:04Thank you very much indeed.
04:06APPLAUSE
04:08You have to understand, with the grace of respect, and you can wipe that horrible little grin
04:13off your face.
04:14I'm a little bit angry.
04:15I don't mind people having an opinion about me.
04:17But when I'm actually on national television shaking the hand of a bloke saying, you're
04:21a nice guy, you're not a liar, the truth of course is, is that before that was recorded,
04:26before he was accused of having sex with your auntie, your mother's sister, you and
04:30he had sex.
04:30What's that all about?
04:32That?
04:33You mean that?
04:34Honestly, it was the biggest mistake I could have ever made in my life.
04:38I trusted that man as a dad.
04:41Well, even that as a...
04:42He made the move on me.
04:44Let's just, let's just go back, and I sort of am totally with your mother this morning,
04:48when I was given this this morning, and he fell off my chair.
04:51This is a guy you've called dad, in essence, a stepdad.
04:54Yeah.
04:55Explain to me, in the name of God, what you are doing...
04:58Oh, you've got some front, you have.
05:01What, what means...
05:02You're here, in front of millions of people saying, Mum, I'm really sorry I slept with
05:08your, you know, your ex, or Arnie, my stepdad, it was a mistake.
05:13What sort of daughter does that, for God's sake?
05:15What's that all about?
05:17What's that all about?
05:18You know, I think you've had to go on why I did it.
05:20Even though I don't understand why I did it myself.
05:22Well, let's go back.
05:23Explain to me.
05:24Well, it was...
05:25I mean, they're engaged.
05:26In March 2012, I was down for the month, because I needed to get away.
05:31You told my team was always supportive, was always there for you.
05:34Yeah.
05:34He was a shoulder to lean on.
05:36Yeah.
05:36That's what...
05:37Hence the reason why I saw him.
05:39I started to see him as a stepdad, because he was there as a father figure.
05:43Take me through, and I'm not trying to upset you, but take me through that day, please.
05:48Because most people watching this are going to recall in horror.
05:51You slept with your stepdad behind your mother's back.
05:53What happened?
05:54That day, we'd been helping a friend out move into the flat, and she'd given us half
05:58a crate of beer.
05:59Now, when we'd finished, Arnie told her, told me, don't tell your man we've got the beer.
06:04Otherwise, she'll go mad if she finds out you're drinking again.
06:07Now, I made out that I'd been to the pub, and had a few beers there.
06:12And what had happened, well, we'd gone down onto the river.
06:15Really?
06:16We'd been on the river.
06:17We'd gone onto the river at this point, and we'd found a spot where we could sit, you
06:21know, and have a drink, and a couple of cigs.
06:23Nice.
06:23And that's when he made a pass at me.
06:26What do you mean he made a pass at you?
06:27How does your stepfather...
06:27He tried to kiss me.
06:28Your stepfather...
06:29Yes.
06:30...tries to kiss you.
06:30At which point, this guy...
06:32I was going to say, this bloke is the guy that...
06:35Life.
06:36What happened next?
06:37Then, it moved in again to, you know, try and fill my breasts.
06:43He's 54 at this point, and you're 18 years of age.
06:47Yeah.
06:48I've not long since turned 18.
06:50I'd only been 18.
06:51Did you not run home, phone the police, go running and screaming to your mother?
06:54I told him if he carried it on again, I would take it home to mum this time.
06:57And it was on the way around that he tried it again, and I turned around and I said,
07:01look, to be honest with you, I'm getting fed up of it.
07:04If you just want to do it, then go ahead and do it.
07:06Because, to be honest with you, I've had enough right now.
07:08You're chasing me.
07:09So, I'm going to make the point, and they're laughing, but I'm going to make this point very seriously.
07:13This was consensual sex?
07:15Yes.
07:15You had sex on the towpath?
07:17Well, it was out of the way of the towpath.
07:19It wasn't exactly on the towpath itself.
07:21You had full sex with the guy who'd brought you up for years?
07:24Yeah.
07:26Now, that was two years ago.
07:28After that, put that to one side.
07:31I almost said put it to bed.
07:32There were accusations, which we've seen, that that had cheated with your mum's sister.
07:39They came here, he passed the lie detector, you saw the host of this show shaking his hand and saying,
07:44you're an honest man, you're a good man.
07:46And I felt disgusted.
07:46I felt disgusted at the time.
07:48Have you had sex with him again since then?
07:49No.
07:50But he's been trying it on with you, hasn't he?
07:52Yes.
07:53There's actually messages from my Facebook account that have been from Anna himself.
07:59Haven't there been messages in the last couple of days?
08:01Yes, there has.
08:02Your mother, who is engaged to this piece of, I can't even say it, discovers that her daughter,
08:09well, she knew, but she finds out that you're a liar and he's a liar.
08:13How do you feel about her?
08:14I feel sorry for mum.
08:16That's not what you said to my team, you said she's a terrible mother.
08:19She is.
08:20No, she is.
08:21Is that why you did it?
08:22No.
08:23You sure?
08:23I'm sure it wasn't out of revenge?
08:25No, it definitely wasn't out of revenge.
08:26He's got some front.
08:27The mother, Anne, on the Jeremy Kyle Show, she's back.
08:37You are a lying little cow.
08:40And when we've finished, you're out of my life and so is that waste of space.
08:45Well, it won't be out new, will it?
08:47No.
08:48You'll be out of it.
08:49You when I was six months old.
08:50Where did you go?
08:52I was on the end of the phone.
08:54Your dad rang me.
08:55Don't even start, lady, because I will slap you.
08:57Oh!
08:58I was born back when I was twelve, when you were on your way to a hen do.
09:02Turned up for, what, half an hour?
09:05Then he says, oh, I promise I'll be there on Saturday.
09:07Where were you that Saturday when I was sat there from eight o'clock in Tuesday?
09:09I was poorly.
09:11I was throwing up big style.
09:13I had gastroenteritis.
09:14Is that why you slept with her fiancé, then?
09:17Because you think she didn't do a particularly good job as a mother?
09:19Well, all right in a minute.
09:21You sure?
09:22Because I haven't heard.
09:23I haven't heard.
09:24Sorry.
09:24Welcome back, by the way.
09:25I don't even know how on earth you can handle it.
09:27She's your fiancé.
09:28Hello?
09:28Hello?
09:29Where would I, when your dad wanted you to go into a different school?
09:32Can we forget that?
09:33Hold on a second.
09:34Can we forget that?
09:35You only found out two days ago.
09:37Yeah, because he actually told me.
09:38Me, old stupid head, said he was a nice man last night.
09:42Yeah, and I made it up to him, and we were going to get married in October this year.
09:45You believe there's more to this, don't you?
09:47Yeah.
09:48You think it's more than the ones.
09:49You've done a lie detector, he's done a lie detector.
09:51To me, that's even irrelevant, right?
09:52The fact of the matter is, he and her abused your trust.
09:56Is she as guilty as him?
09:58Yeah.
09:59You haven't even said sorry.
10:00You went, where were you when I was six months of age?
10:03Why would you sleep with somebody, right?
10:06Yes, he probably did abuse his position.
10:08Why would you do that with your mother?
10:10Because, I'll tell you, it's telling.
10:11When she came out, all you did was have a go at it.
10:13You did this out of revenge, lady, didn't you?
10:15No, I didn't.
10:15You sure?
10:16Positive.
10:17Then why'd you keep it to yourself for two years?
10:19Because I wasn't in the stable mind of doing it.
10:22No, rubbish.
10:23Maximum, maximum hurt right now, because they're engaged.
10:25Well, if you weren't in the stable mind of doing it, he could have told me.
10:28But he didn't even have the guts to do it.
10:30Exactly.
10:30But am I responsible for what he does?
10:33He makes his own choices in life.
10:35Same with our midline now.
10:36You know what he's made the wrong one now, ain't he?
10:37Because he's out of my life.
10:39And now, because of him, and you, doing this, you both are.
10:43I never, ever want to see either of you, or hear from either of you, ever again.
10:49Do you, um, do you remember, because I think somebody said this to me this morning,
10:53do you remember that day?
10:54You said they were both normal and nothing was abnormal in their behaviour?
10:57Yeah, they were both all right.
10:59What did he say happened?
11:00He says, it did happen between me and Siri.
11:02I said, what happened?
11:03He says, we had sex.
11:05I said, you did what?
11:07Isn't it true that 20 minutes after he admitted having sex with your daughter,
11:11Yeah.
11:12He moved in for a cuddle and said, can we have sex?
11:13Well, no, he was actually sat, he was actually sat in his computer chair and he turned round,
11:19looked at me and said, can I have a cuddle?
11:21I said, you are joking, aren't you?
11:22Well, how can you possibly forgive a man?
11:25You're going to marry, right?
11:26I haven't.
11:26I'm not going to marry him.
11:27And what about you?
11:28You've gone very quiet, haven't you?
11:29Oh, it's all about your upbringing and all about your state of mind.
11:33Well, I'll tell you something.
11:34Do you know what really frightened me about what you said?
11:36You said, if you're going to do that again, you might as well get on with it.
11:39That's not what, okay, women should say to any man.
11:43Least of all...
11:44I don't know why you're nodding.
11:45Do you know what?
11:46And that, that there has abused his position as your stepfather.
11:50But you've held on to this for two years.
11:53And I would respectfully suggest that you have another motive,
11:56which is to cause maximum heartache right now.
11:59They've just got engaged.
12:01They're going to get married and you've dropped the bombshell.
12:03I want mum to know what she's going to marry.
12:05I'm not going to marry him now, am I?
12:07Because of what you've both done.
12:09You want to know, mum, what sort of man you are to marry.
12:12Maybe the poor man needs to know what an appalling daughter she's got.
12:15Guess what, my friends?
12:16That, who I stupidly once said was a man who tells the truth,
12:21is next on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
12:23I'm right back.
12:24A lot of people get drunk and don't sleep with their girlfriend's daughters.
12:26But some do.
12:27You don't do a character in front of someone,
12:29and nine out of ten times they'll take it.
12:30How dare you make me out to be a...
12:32I am not.
12:34You told her you were going to leave my sister for nothing.
12:38I have no idea.
12:39I am not.
12:39I am not.
12:39You told her you were going to leave my sister.
12:42I am not.
12:43You told her you were going to leave my sister.
12:44I am not.
12:47Shove it!
12:55Thank you very much for today.
12:55Welcome back for the break.
12:56We are talking about Serene Anne.
12:57I have done this a long time.
12:59This is one of the most disgusting stories I have ever had to deal with.
13:01He admitted several days ago he'd had sex with you, his stepdaughter, once.
13:07Now, the accusation, the reason for the lie detector is,
13:10is that she, and certainly people around us, believe that this has been going on for longer.
13:14You say, yes, he's tried it on, I've seen messages, but it was only the once.
13:19How on earth would you believe anything that these two people say?
13:23God knows what welcome you'll give him.
13:25Arnie's back on the Jeremy Kyle Show, ladies and gentlemen.
13:35I came on to you, did I?
13:37Get the hell away from me.
13:38Oh, here we go.
13:39Oh, I love it.
13:40Jeremy.
13:41You're a low-life lying scumbag, and I apologise actually for getting you completely wrong.
13:45You're the lowest of the low.
13:47Park your backside.
13:48Shut up.
13:50I said she's had her say, I'd like to have my say.
13:53How can you have your say when you had sex with your stepdaughter, you liar?
13:56She's not the stepdaughter yet for a start.
13:58That's your fiancée and that's her daughter.
14:01You were on that show going, oh, I'm this, I'm that.
14:03You're a dirty old man, aren't you?
14:05That's the truth.
14:06Saree has already lied.
14:08What about?
14:09This is what I'm trying to say.
14:10I'm putting my side forward.
14:12How's your side?
14:13You had sex with her.
14:15Yes, and now it's come to it.
14:16I've held my hand up.
14:17But if you remember, right?
14:19Yeah, you held your hand up two days ago, but yet it happened two years ago.
14:24Why didn't you do it the same day it happened or the day before?
14:28It's not the sort of...
14:29Why didn't you have the guts to do it?
14:32It's not the sort of thing you sit down...
14:34Oh, yeah, it kind of is.
14:35Hello, darling.
14:36So, I'll tell you what.
14:37My day was fine.
14:37How was yours?
14:38Oh, I slept with your daughter.
14:39Well, then tell us how it happened then, Mr.
14:42Right.
14:42We went down for that walk round.
14:44As you said, you're correct.
14:46Right?
14:47Is he trying to justify this?
14:48You went...
14:48No, I'm not justifying it.
14:49You slept with her daughter.
14:51I'm not justifying it.
14:52You're finished.
14:53I'm saying how it happened.
14:53Watched up.
14:54Gone.
14:54I'm saying how it happened.
14:56Well, how did it happen?
14:57Right, beer was involved for a start.
14:59Oh, well, there you go.
14:59Blaming beer.
15:00I'm not blaming beer, Jeremy.
15:02Oh, okay.
15:02Then, fair enough.
15:03Right, but...
15:03A lot of people get drunk and don't sleep with their girlfriend's daughters.
15:06But some do.
15:07You dangle a carrot in front of someone, and a nine out of ten time, they'll take it.
15:10Now, it was Siree...
15:12You were 36 years older than her.
15:16Do you remember when I...
15:17You were 36 years older than her.
15:19Yeah, listen, Jeremy.
15:20You abused your position.
15:21I was laying on the side.
15:23She was in the water.
15:25She came back and she started sprinkling sand all over my chest.
15:28I was laying sunbathing, and then she started on me.
15:31What do you mean, she started on you?
15:32I started on somebody.
15:33What do you mean, she started on you?
15:34I'm not saying that it didn't happen.
15:35What do you mean, she started on you?
15:37She started coming up close and rubbing all the sand in my chest and stuff.
15:40Why wouldn't you go, that's wrong, that's abnormal.
15:42I'm engaged to your mother.
15:44Go home.
15:44Because I wasn't exactly sober at the time.
15:47This is what I'm trying to say.
15:48Oh, I was drunk.
15:48You were drunk.
15:49So you're blaming booze as well.
15:50I'm not blaming booze.
15:50This is the wronged party here.
15:52I'm saying booze had something to do with it.
15:53Has it happened more than once?
15:55No.
15:55You're still sending her messages?
15:58Really, really.
15:59Why have you done a runner?
16:00Why have you done a runner?
16:02We have to face up to this today.
16:04I'm not running around this studio.
16:06You can cry all you want.
16:08You can hold on to your friend.
16:09This is the wrong party.
16:10Get your backside out here and face up to what you've done.
16:19I'm not coming to get you, love.
16:21Get back out here.
16:22Bring some out as well.
16:23Seriously, get her out as well.
16:25I don't care.
16:25You can't even talk to him, can you?
16:27I can't even look at him.
16:30I've told him that when we get back from here today, that is it.
16:33How dare you make me out to be a s***er?
16:36I am not.
16:37That does sound disgusting, doesn't it?
16:39I never came on to you.
16:41It was you that came on to me in the first place.
16:43And you know it was.
16:44So don't even dare try blaming this on me.
16:46Who are you?
16:47This is mine to Sam.
16:49I'm a lanty.
16:49I hope you're sort of like disgusted as well by all of this.
16:52How can you do that?
16:54You broke our family apart.
16:56No, I have not.
16:57And especially paying 20.20 pounds into a bank account.
17:03And all about that was 30 quid.
17:05And saying, oh, I still want you.
17:09No.
17:09And you told her you were going to leave my sister for her.
17:13Fear that I'm nothing.
17:14So you haven't still been trying.
17:17Oi, Mr. Cole, you haven't still been trying it on with her?
17:19No.
17:19So why have I got Facebook messages that absolutely refute what you just don't?
17:26Still what in your body?
17:27It might be.
17:28It might be, yeah?
17:30You did send that, yeah?
17:31Yeah, but how about text that shit?
17:32All right, go on, carry on.
17:33Carry on.
17:33Show me another one, Matt, please.
17:36No, you're my sex machine.
17:38Yes, a month ago.
17:40That was the 20 pound like that put in my bank.
17:42No, how about...
17:43I can't believe the front of his blood.
17:45No, where's the one three sent to me?
17:47Have you put any of your replies or any of your messages?
17:50Apparently, you sent her 20 quid and then you sent her message, yeah?
17:52Yeah, we sent her 30 quid.
17:53I knew about that.
17:53We did.
17:54So she paid for some of the money you're trying to bribe her daughter for saying?
17:57No, no, no, it was her money.
17:58Do you know that?
17:59You are disgusting and wrong.
18:00She does, no.
18:00You're disgusting.
18:03You're disgusting.
18:04You're vile.
18:06But I will not, as long as I do this show,
18:09and I don't care if they drag me out of the studio,
18:11they can shove it, right?
18:12You are not going to get away with her, oh, yeah.
18:15Yeah, maybe you had a few problems,
18:17but that's your mother and you crossed a line.
18:19And you crossed a line
18:21because you were trying to score cheat points against your mother.
18:25Nobody does what you two do
18:26and can sit there as cool as you like.
18:28She's as guilty as him.
18:29Yeah.
18:30I mean it.
18:31Sam.
18:31I know I'm going to lose him.
18:33Do you remember?
18:33I mean it.
18:34I'm here to stand up for myself.
18:36I admit it.
18:37Has anything happened in the last two years?
18:39No.
18:39Nothing at all?
18:41But you've been trying to on with her, haven't you?
18:42I can't on.
18:43So what are those messages mean?
18:45They know you're my sex machine.
18:46I want your body.
18:47What, you made that up, yeah?
18:49A week ago.
18:50To me.
18:51I've never had any credit.
18:52Oh, you didn't say anything.
18:54Oh, so have you said anything to him?
18:55No.
18:56You sure?
18:56I'll say it.
18:57Why do I not believe you?
18:59I don't know, but I've never said anything to him.
19:00Tears have dried up, haven't they?
19:04I think you're both, I think you are both as devious and as big a liars as each other
19:11and anybody with a brain cell watches this and feels sorry for you.
19:14And do you know the thing is, how many people have been on this show and they go,
19:17oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:18I hope you stand by your work because you, what you did, smile.
19:23And your motives for doing this are absolutely because what you think about your mother
19:27in terms of how you were brought up.
19:29I absolutely believe you did it for that reason, don't you, Sam?
19:33She came out here, she said sorry.
19:34She came out here and she went, you were a useless mother.
19:37So you two did lie detectors, what to prove to a lady who has nothing to do with any of
19:40you ever again, quite rightly, that you haven't done it more than once.
19:43What do you think that, oh, yeah, well, by the way, give me an explanation.
19:45You moved in to try and have sex with her the other day.
19:4820 minutes after you told her you had sex with her daughter.
19:50No, I didn't move in to have sex with her.
19:52I said, can I have a cuddle?
19:54Why would you want to cuddle?
19:55Yeah, what did I say to you?
19:56I told you I'd take a running jump because you won't get in one.
19:59You nailed it, that way.
20:01You won't get in the biggest swat house because when you get home, you're leaving the keys,
20:07you're getting your stuff and you're out.
20:09And I don't give a damn where you go.
20:11Okay.
20:12You don't care, do you?
20:13You've got somebody else lying there.
20:14You can't play on the goddamn railway, on the railway tracks.
20:17What do you mean you care?
20:18How can you care when you had sex with her daughter?
20:19I do care.
20:20Can you give me those results?
20:20It's something that happened that I deeply regret.
20:23What in the hell did you tell me?
20:25I can't do anything about it because it's happened.
20:29Anne, can I ask you a question?
20:32If you've done this to Serene, right, I'm remorse.
20:35Have you done it to none?
20:37That's what's going to come out in here.
20:38Interesting me.
20:39Anne, can I ask you a question?
20:41I mean, I do try and balance all of this and I've been hard on her and hard on him.
20:44But I guess you look at this and you go, he took advantage.
20:49Yes?
20:50Yeah.
20:51Don't know.
20:52It's a difficult one, isn't it?
20:53Let's start with you, Serene.
20:54I don't care what results are because I edit days out and I...
20:57I hope you stick by that.
21:00We asked Serene, have you had sexual intercourse with Arnie on more than one occasion?
21:03You said no.
21:03Why did you say no?
21:04She was telling the truth.
21:05She was telling the truth, ladies and gentlemen.
21:06I don't even know.
21:07Why are you clapping?
21:09Why are you clapping?
21:10She had sex with her stepfather.
21:12Have you had sexual contact with Arnie on more than one occasion?
21:15She said no.
21:15She was telling the truth.
21:16And have you passionately kissed Arnie on more than one occasion?
21:19You said no.
21:19So you were telling the truth.
21:20So your story stands up.
21:21It was once.
21:22You regretted.
21:23It was alcohol induced.
21:25I accept that.
21:26But you still crossed the line.
21:27I did.
21:27You still should have done it.
21:28Mum, I am sorry for what I did.
21:30Do you believe I've seen it now?
21:31Two years down the line?
21:33Do you have seen it the same day?
21:34It happened all the day after?
21:35Not two years down the line.
21:36What would you have said?
21:37What would you have said if she'd said it the day after?
21:40I'd have sent her back home.
21:41Mum, I'd have kicked him out.
21:43I can't believe, before I read this, the front that you've got.
21:47I mean, you know, the Jeremy Kyle show is what it is.
21:50But you actually sit there looking like you think this is normal.
21:53You're the bad guy here, mate.
21:55I know I am.
21:55Can I just say this?
21:56I'm amazed.
21:57No, no, Annie.
21:58To try and sort out in my head what the hell you did and why you did it.
22:03And I might not even speak to you for ages.
22:06So you better get used to it, lady.
22:08You're the bad guy here and you seem to sit here like it doesn't matter.
22:11No, it does matter.
22:12It matters a lot.
22:13We asked, Annie, apart from the one occasion you've admitted to, have you had sexual intercourse
22:17with Sari on any other occasion?
22:18You said no.
22:19He was telling the truth as well.
22:21We also asked, since the start of your relationship with Anne, apart from Sari, have you had sexual
22:25intercourse with any other person?
22:26He said no.
22:27He was telling the truth.
22:28And since the start of your relationship with Anne, apart from Sari, have you had sexual
22:33contact with any other person?
22:34That's anything from kiss to intercourse.
22:35You said no.
22:36Why did you say no?
22:36Because I was telling the truth.
22:37You're a liar, mate.
22:38Go!
22:39Me!
22:40Me!
22:41Why?
22:50Do you know something?
23:07I have to be really, really careful with words.
23:10You're a vile, vile, disgusting lowlife.
23:13And for the first time in a long time, will you do me a favour?
23:15You've never done this before.
23:16Actually, you have every permission.
23:17Pick that scumbag up and throw it out of Manchester.
23:20There we go.
23:21Seriously, get rid of it.
23:26Actually, actually, while I'm on it, where's she gone?
23:33So let me get this absolutely right.
23:36Two years ago, he had sex with your daughter.
23:40They both say that each other tried it on.
23:43I think that's really important.
23:44But it did happen once.
23:47He is older.
23:49I'm not saying that.
23:52But then, he's done it, not intercourse,
23:54he's done sexual contact with other people as well.
23:56Can you get me, Graham, please?
23:58Yeah, I'm good.
24:00It's all right, all right?
24:00Don't mind, just get away from me.
24:03You can't expect to put your arm around your mother
24:05and everything to be all right.
24:06You've had sex with her fiancé.
24:08It's going to be a long time.
24:09It's going to take me time to try and trust her
24:12and speak to you, let alone anything else.
24:16And I will always forget what I did.
24:18Yeah, well, he's a bit late doing it now, isn't it?
24:20Oh, yeah, is that a lie?
24:23You've got to understand something, darling.
24:25You can't just go like that.
24:25I know.
24:26What do you say about this show the whole time?
24:27I don't think I take time.
24:28People come through the door and they go,
24:30yeah, yeah, yeah, I've made a mistake.
24:31You have to understand the consequences.
24:33The consequences of yours and his actions
24:34are that actually their marriage is not going to happen
24:36and she's utterly devastated and feels cheated
24:38by the people, probably the two people closest to her.
24:42The two people that I've loved, and obviously...
24:47Listen, things don't happen overnight.
24:48You're welcome, of course, and quite rightly,
24:50we'll offer Graham and the team.
24:51I'll support you if you want to sit and talk to Sari,
24:53if you want to...
24:54Whatever you want to do.
24:55And I have to say one thing to young lady.
24:56Whatever she wants to do has to be her choice
24:58because she's the wrong party.
24:59I acknowledge that you rang this show,
25:01but your mother is the one who has had to deal with this.
25:04I'm not even going to ask if you're right.
25:06Graham, can I ask you to take over?
25:07I'm so sorry.
25:08It's awful.
25:09Dreadful.
25:11Just outrageous.
25:12Give him a round of applause.
25:13Graham, it's all yours.
25:17Just an unbelievable story.
25:19I mean, the wrong party.
25:20Undoubtedly, there was Anne.
25:21Yes, you know, she did wrong the daughter.
25:24Was she vulnerable at 20?
25:26Perhaps she was.
25:27He...
25:28I don't even know and have words to explain what I think.
25:31Will her mother and her have a relationship?
25:33We'll work with them.
25:34We'll keep the door open.
25:35It's going to take a hell of a long time.
25:36Coming up next, my friends, on that stage,
25:38a woman here to expose her sister's partner as a cheat.
25:41We're right back.
25:42Don't go anywhere.
25:43Stop telling your lies.
25:44I'm telling you.
25:45Don't tell her lies in front of me.
25:47I'm telling you.
25:49Whatever.
25:49And if her tells lies in front of me,
25:51she'll get the same.
26:00Thank you very much.
26:01Welcome back.
26:01My next guest today, Zoe-Anne,
26:03is here to convince sister Bea to finish with,
26:05in her words,
26:06her lying, cheating boyfriend, Glenn.
26:08Zoe-Anne claims that Glenn has been unfaithful
26:11throughout their four-month relationship with her sister
26:12and has even given her sister Bea an STI.
26:15Now, Zoe-Anne...
26:17It was horrified when Bea told her that she was pregnant
26:20with his child and hopes today
26:21after Glenn fails the lie detector.
26:24Sister Bea will come to her senses
26:26and leave this man for good.
26:28Big day for them all.
26:29Zoe-Anne, next, on the Jeremy Cowell Show.
26:31Give her a round of applause.
26:34How are you?
26:37How are you?
26:38How are you?
26:39Good point, thank you.
26:39There are many of these sort of family interventions
26:41over the years,
26:42and I think it must take quite a lot
26:43for a family member to come out and say to her sister,
26:45your boyfriend's a low-life waste of space.
26:47Get away from him.
26:49The problem, of course, is, you know,
26:52that's her decision, that's her life.
26:54Can we hear a little bit about this Glenn guy?
26:56Because I'd like to know more.
26:58He's 26, your sister's 20.
27:01Why don't you like him?
27:02Well, he was all right to start with.
27:05He says he had a job,
27:06everything seemed perfect
27:07when he first started coming around.
27:09Then, next thing you know,
27:11never went to work.
27:13We ran my mum and dad's house
27:14pretty much 24-7.
27:16So, obviously...
27:17A sponger.
27:18Yeah, he's a sponger.
27:19A liar.
27:20He uses her for everything.
27:22This girl was...
27:23She worked, she was at college,
27:24she did it, she was the best student,
27:26she was the best worker.
27:27She was lovely, bubbly...
27:29Employee of the month, I think,
27:30with a job,
27:31and it's just regressed to this...
27:33Well, basically nothing.
27:35Why?
27:35Well, it's had disciplinaries.
27:39It's just, like,
27:40brought her down to his level.
27:42I think somebody told my team this morning
27:43that it's almost like
27:44she doesn't give a damn anymore.
27:45Yeah, pretty much.
27:46Almost like she's putting
27:47two fingers up to everybody.
27:48Basically, we try and tell her
27:50how we see him,
27:52and it's just going over
27:54the top of her head.
27:56We've talked,
27:57and certainly there's a lie detector today,
27:58we've talked about your accusation
27:59that he's a cheat.
28:01What do you base that on?
28:02How do you know that to be the truth?
28:03Basically, we set up a profile account
28:05on your favourite network site,
28:07Facebook.
28:08You set up a fake Facebook account?
28:10God, I think it's a real one.
28:12And he fell for it.
28:13He fell for it.
28:13So, explain to me,
28:14old man, not very good.
28:15You pretended to be somebody else.
28:17A bird, a woman.
28:18Yeah, pretended to be...
28:19I know, that's cool.
28:20It's called a honey trap.
28:21Yeah, yes.
28:23We took this profile,
28:26started flirting with him.
28:27So you and your mum are going,
28:29all right, big boyfriends.
28:31No, me and my partner.
28:31No, me and my husband.
28:32Did you?
28:32Yeah.
28:33Basically, he agreed to meet up with us.
28:37How did you target him?
28:39Or is that too technical?
28:40Well, basically,
28:41we started talking dirty to him.
28:43Did you?
28:44Yeah.
28:44What did you say to him?
28:45So your husband...
28:46This is a messed up story.
28:48Your husband talked dirty
28:49to the boyfriend of your sister
28:51that you don't want her to be with.
28:52What did you say to him?
28:53Basically, he wants to have sex with Glenn.
28:59So you said you were part of this, right?
29:02I asked him, like,
29:04you know, would he want to?
29:05At first, he was a bit,
29:06oh, there he's just mush.
29:09Basically, I says,
29:11would you be willing to,
29:13if I'm going to say,
29:14do me pull on my hair?
29:17It's not in his head,
29:18but we've got the proof.
29:19We've got the proof, Glenn.
29:21So, sorry.
29:22And he was like, yes, anytime.
29:23And he wanted to meet up
29:24the very next morning
29:25while his missus was at work
29:27and in all the morning.
29:28So your sister's out of work.
29:30You two provide...
29:31So, you've shown her this.
29:32Yeah.
29:33And still, that's not enough.
29:34Still, it's got straight over her head.
29:35Now, interestingly,
29:36I'm sure you heard this introduction,
29:38your sister, Bea,
29:39who is 20, again,
29:42is apparently pregnant.
29:43Well, I keep saying she is
29:45and then says that she isn't.
29:46Now, you have a belief
29:48that that's not the case,
29:50that this is more of the control.
29:53And interestingly,
29:53you're listening to your story,
29:54and I totally get
29:55where you're coming from, right?
29:56You have this thing, don't you?
29:57You think he's no good.
29:59You have definitive proof
30:00that he's going to break
30:01your sister's heart.
30:01But the more you tell her,
30:02of course,
30:02she sticks her head in the stand
30:03and goes, I love him.
30:04He's great.
30:05Pretty much, yeah.
30:06I just wanted to just leave him.
30:08Do you think she's pregnant?
30:09No.
30:10Hell no.
30:10What's made up?
30:11Well, yeah,
30:12I keep saying to us,
30:13I've had pregnancy tests
30:14to come back negative,
30:15all this rubbish.
30:17Then next thing you know,
30:18oh, I am pregnant.
30:19I've spoken to Glenn's mum.
30:20He's brought a cot and everything.
30:21I was like,
30:22I thought you wasn't pregnant.
30:24And she was like,
30:25no, I'm not pregnant.
30:26I'm going to go to the hospital.
30:27Well, I should share this
30:28with the audience right now
30:29before she comes out
30:30and he comes out.
30:30We offered her, obviously,
30:31a pregnancy test,
30:32as we always do,
30:33and she said,
30:33I don't want to do one.
30:36Skinner out.
30:36Young sister B
30:37on the Jeremy Kyle show,
30:38that way.
30:43I am 10 weeks pregnant.
30:46No, you're not.
30:47Yes, I am.
30:47Prove it.
30:48Do a lie detector.
30:49I've done six pregnancy tests
30:51in front of Glenn.
30:52Do it in front of everybody.
30:54Just shut up.
30:54Who are you?
30:55Shut up.
30:56Shut up again.
30:57Who are you?
30:58I'm Beatrice.
30:59I am Zoe-Ann,
31:00and Beatrice's mum.
31:01Are you?
31:02Yes, I am.
31:02Are you on the stage?
31:03What?
31:04What's your view on this?
31:05I want Beatrice to prove
31:07that she's not pregnant.
31:09My team,
31:09hello, welcome to the show.
31:10My team offered you
31:10a pregnancy test.
31:11And I turned it down.
31:12Why?
31:13I don't think I have to prove
31:14to them that I'm pregnant.
31:16I told them at first.
31:17Beatrice, good boy.
31:18I told you at first
31:19I'm not pregnant
31:20because I didn't want you to know
31:21because I know what you're like.
31:23But why keep swapping and changing
31:24your damn mind?
31:25Because I know what everyone's like.
31:27They all judge me
31:28because I'm pregnant.
31:29No, you don't.
31:29You don't know.
31:30Why are you having a baby
31:31or even attempting to get pregnant
31:33with a lying, cheating person
31:34who they hate
31:35and he's not very nice.
31:36Did she tell you
31:37she had an STI?
31:39Yeah.
31:39Yes, she did.
31:40And that's came back clear.
31:41He was going to go
31:42and have sex
31:44with a stranger.
31:45Me and him
31:47was doing that.
31:48Don't believe you for a second.
31:49We were writing it.
31:50We were writing it.
31:51He's got you right
31:51where he wants you,
31:52hasn't he, love?
31:53Yes, he has.
31:54What's so great
31:55about this boy then?
31:56He's completely changed.
31:57Yes, he has a past.
31:58Changed from what?
31:59He has a past.
32:00What do you mean?
32:00Changed from what?
32:01He used to take drugs.
32:03He had violence.
32:04And he's completely changed.
32:06You told my team
32:06my family are controlling,
32:08they're possessive.
32:09This all came about
32:10was I want to be with this guy
32:12and I'm not going to be told
32:13how to live my life.
32:14I don't want anyone
32:15to tell me how to live my life.
32:17He lets me be
32:18as free as I can be free.
32:20My parents
32:21and all my sisters
32:22have always tried
32:23to control me.
32:24No, we have not.
32:25Yes, you have.
32:26No, we have not.
32:27We have all looked out for you.
32:28Since I was 16,
32:29I've wanted to move out
32:30but Dad says
32:31I can't do anything
32:31until I'm 21.
32:33No, we're all looking out for you.
32:34That's because we all love you
32:35and we want to protect you bitches.
32:37She said I've had a crap upbringing
32:38and I've always been
32:39the black sheep of the family.
32:40You what?
32:41She was afraid.
32:41You have always been the favourite.
32:44You have always been the favourite.
32:46No, I haven't.
32:46So don't start coming out
32:47with all this rubbish to me.
32:48Do you know how much stress
32:49you've been putting
32:50Mum and Dad under?
32:51That's not my fault.
32:52Yes, it is.
32:53Yes, it is.
32:54No, you don't listen
32:55to anybody.
32:56Dad told me.
32:56You need to start listening today.
32:58I don't want to listen to any of this.
33:00I don't want to listen to any of this.
33:03Not what you're putting us through.
33:04I am going to balance this.
33:06Why are you getting pregnant
33:07at 20, darling?
33:08Has he got a job?
33:09No.
33:10Oh, brilliant.
33:10So how are you going
33:11to support your baby then?
33:12Does he still take drugs?
33:13No.
33:14No, so he doesn't take drugs
33:15but he hasn't got a job.
33:16How are you going to pay
33:16for your baby then?
33:17What about your career?
33:18What about success?
33:19Why would you want to be
33:19with somebody who can't provide for you?
33:21Because I love him.
33:22I love him.
33:25You tell my team,
33:26this will shock you, Mum,
33:27I'd pick him over my family any day.
33:30That's what my dad said.
33:31He says I have to choose
33:33between you lot or him.
33:34Let's get him out.
33:35He's 26.
33:35He says the family have got him wrong.
33:37Let's not prejudge him.
33:38I'm a nice bloke.
33:39I did used to take drugs.
33:41I have cheated
33:41but essentially
33:42I'm going to love this woman
33:44and her family can do one.
33:45Glenn's next
33:46on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
33:55It wasn't so much a walk-on,
33:57it was a shuffle-on.
33:57How are you?
33:58Fine.
33:59Is that it?
34:00Yeah.
34:01If you ask me the first day,
34:03if I had a pass...
34:16Are you for change?
34:16For what?
34:18For violence disorder.
34:19Why would you have the job
34:20and then they get rid of you
34:21because of your pass?
34:22Did you lie?
34:23No.
34:23Because...
34:23How did you get a job
34:24in the first place then?
34:25And why haven't you had a job
34:26since then then?
34:27And why are you making
34:27a young 20-year-old pregnant
34:29if you can't pay for the baby?
34:31Answer that!
34:32Money or business?
34:34What?
34:34Money or business?
34:37Should I tell you why?
34:38It's part of my business
34:39and everybody else's
34:40who goes to work
34:40because we pay the damn tax
34:42that'll pay for your little offspring
34:43because you can't pay for it yourself.
34:45That's why it's my business.
34:48True or not?
34:49Well, answer that then,
34:50smarty-panks.
34:51Go on.
34:52It took to us what we do
34:53for violence.
34:54Answer that!
34:55If you don't get your money,
34:56who pays for your kid?
34:57I do get my money,
34:58that's the thing.
34:59I can get money like that.
35:00You get it from...
35:00Oh, what?
35:01Drug dealing?
35:02No.
35:02Because I touch drugs for ages.
35:04Really?
35:04So I can get money like that,
35:05steal it?
35:05No.
35:06Well, then how?
35:06Because I've got people
35:07who lend it me
35:07and then I will give it back.
35:09How will you give it to them
35:09back if you haven't got a job?
35:11That's not a business.
35:12You basically get your money
35:14from...
35:14from benefit, right?
35:16Yeah.
35:16And who pays for the benefits?
35:17I don't care.
35:18Who pays for it?
35:20That's just him all over.
35:21You don't care?
35:22Shoot your mouth, Paul.
35:23Yeah, you're more...
35:24You can't even look at him,
35:25can you?
35:25So you don't take drugs?
35:27No.
35:27You don't cheat?
35:29No.
35:29You don't work?
35:29You don't care who the hell
35:30gives you benefits.
35:31At what point did you wish
35:32that this was Prince Charming?
35:33Have a look.
35:34When was this what you
35:35actually dreamt of?
35:37Look, since the start,
35:38I knew I could feel
35:39something for him.
35:40Pity?
35:41No, love.
35:42Love?
35:43How do you aspire?
35:44What's this going to provide
35:46for you?
35:46He hasn't got a job.
35:47He will get one.
35:48Really?
35:48I'm looking.
35:49You're looking?
35:50Yeah.
35:51You're doing this to get back
35:52at your family, love?
35:53No.
35:53You sure about that?
35:54What's your dad called?
35:55Fred.
35:55Get Fred on the Jeremy Kyle show.
35:56He's coming that way.
36:11Stop telling your lies.
36:13Don't tell your lies in front of me.
36:15I'm not telling lies, Fred.
36:16I've told you.
36:17Whatever.
36:18Right?
36:19And if her tells lies in front of me,
36:21she'll get the same.
36:24And when you're talking to me,
36:26you look at me face.
36:27You can't look at anybody, Fred.
36:30You can't look at anybody, Fred.
36:37You can't look at anybody, can you?
36:39That's his daughter you've made pregnant.
36:41Do you believe she's pregnant?
36:42Welcome to the show, Fred.
36:43Thank you very much.
36:44Nice to meet you.
36:46How do you feel about this?
36:48About him.
36:49He's a fine little toad.
36:52He's a con merchant.
36:53He's a thief.
36:54He's a liar.
36:56Nothing to say?
36:57Still the shoulders are down.
36:58Hey.
37:00Why are you making a young girl pregnant
37:02and you can't support her?
37:03Come on, answer it.
37:04I'm looking for a job.
37:05Why didn't you look
37:06before you had unprotected sex with her then?
37:12I'm sure you haven't taken advantage
37:15of a girl who's at loggerheads with her family.
37:17I'll tell you what we'll do
37:17because you're going to run away and everything.
37:19Let me give you an opportunity here.
37:21Let me take your side for a second.
37:23Let's say that you are
37:24the black sheep of the family.
37:25Let's say that actually, in essence,
37:27they have a view of your life
37:29which is unfair
37:30and today you're here to say,
37:32this is my man.
37:33I want to be with him.
37:34Everything's fine.
37:36I'll make you a little offer.
37:37Prove you're actually pregnant.
37:38I've got three minutes.
37:39The offer is there.
37:40I absolutely agree with this man
37:43and I absolutely agree with her.
37:45And I know you'll end up with that
37:46but let me tell you something
37:47somewhere down the line, darling.
37:49This, this will disappoint you.
37:52Aim higher back after this break.
37:54Lie detector.
37:55You keep out of our voice.
37:56You let my daughter go
37:58and get back to normal
37:59because she's not normal now.
38:02I'm sure you've got nothing to do with me.
38:04I'm dishing you all.
38:10Do you not want your girlfriend
38:11to know the truth?
38:12What's going on?
38:12That's going on, mate.
38:13Wait, what if she cheated on you?
38:15How would you feel about that?
38:16I'd still love her.
38:17What's the truth?
38:18Give me those lie detector results.
38:19Since the start of your relationship
38:20with Arnie,
38:21have you passionately kissed anyone else?
38:22You said no.
38:23Why'd say no?
38:24I was telling the truth.
38:27Tess says your future wife's a liar, mate.
38:33Did you cheat on her?
38:36You're going to pass?
38:37You look as guilty as sin.
38:39When the test was being taken,
38:41you actually wrestled with the examiner
38:43and tried to nick a bottle of vodka
38:45from the minibar.
38:46True.
38:47True.
38:47It's not an inclusion.
38:48It's not an inclusion.
38:54Blow me over backwards.
38:55You were lying.
39:02Thank you very much indeed.
39:04Welcome back.
39:04Before the break,
39:05Zoe-Ann, Bea, Glenn, Fred.
39:06A family intervention.
39:08It started with you coming out,
39:09Zoe-Ann,
39:09and saying,
39:09my young sister,
39:11she was Employer of the Month.
39:12She was a great kid.
39:13She was everything.
39:14And then she met this man,
39:16Glenn,
39:17who,
39:18there are allegations of cheating,
39:20of drug taking,
39:21of all sorts of things.
39:23You came out,
39:24Bea,
39:24and said,
39:25I'm 20.
39:25This is my decision.
39:26This is my life.
39:27I'm pregnant with this baby.
39:29I'm sick of my family,
39:30Mum and Paul in the audience as well,
39:32telling me how I should live my life.
39:34Why did you get upset
39:35before the break and run off?
39:36Because I don't want to be on the stage
39:37with people who try and control me.
39:39It's your dad.
39:40Your dad doesn't try and control.
39:42He's looking out for what's best for you,
39:43isn't he?
39:43He's been sitting next to the guy
39:44controlling you.
39:45He's controlled me all my life.
39:47APPLAUSE
39:50What did your sister's husband just say?
39:53Because the audience agreed with it.
39:54Will you repeat what you just said,
39:55my friend?
39:55You're sitting next to the guy
39:56controlling you.
39:57Glenn, you think he's running me?
39:59The other week,
40:00you told me he wasn't pregnant,
40:01you had a different appointment
40:02at the hospital,
40:03and you've been telling the phone,
40:04no baby.
40:05You refused.
40:07That was the other day?
40:08You know when he called you up
40:09on your break?
40:10Oh, boy.
40:11You refused before this show
40:12to do a pregnancy test.
40:14You refused during the break
40:16to do a pregnancy test.
40:17My question is this.
40:18Would it not,
40:19he still can't look up.
40:21What is wrong with you?
40:23Get your...
40:23I just don't like the family,
40:24I thought.
40:25Jeremy.
40:25I don't particularly like you,
40:27but you could get your head up,
40:27you look like you are for sleep,
40:29mate.
40:29Can somebody help me out here?
40:31Allegations of drug abuse.
40:32You say,
40:33you say,
40:34these are untrue.
40:35What do we base these allegations on?
40:37On the fake profile
40:38we have set up,
40:40she actually sent us a message
40:42saying that he used to take drugs.
40:44He used to take drugs.
40:45Do you know how many years ago
40:46was that?
40:46What drugs?
40:47Weed.
40:47Can I just do...
40:48Have we got the drugs test results?
40:52Well,
40:53this will surprise you,
40:53family.
40:54We did a drugs test
40:54and Glenn,
40:5526,
40:56is totally,
40:57totally,
40:57totally clear
40:58of every substance.
40:59Told her.
41:00I told her.
41:00If he is telling the truth
41:02and she goes home with him,
41:03how do you feel about that?
41:05I've already lost my daughter
41:07when I met you.
41:09How does that make you feel?
41:14I love the pictures.
41:16Yeah.
41:16It's your dad.
41:17She was...
41:18Talk to her.
41:19Talk to her.
41:20It's your dad.
41:21You need your dad in your life.
41:23Yeah, fair enough.
41:23I don't like the family.
41:24Look, the way she is now...
41:25If you want to be quiet then,
41:26shut up.
41:27Oi, son.
41:28The way she is now,
41:30she's not my daughter.
41:32You feel like...
41:32My daughter was there
41:34before he came on the scene.
41:36When he came on the scene,
41:37she changed.
41:39When she's been melting off dust,
41:41she'd never have done that
41:42before February.
41:45She'd never have
41:46messed up like that.
41:46She was a good girl.
41:47What happened, Beatrice?
41:48Very intelligent.
41:49I grew up.
41:50I let everyone walk.
41:52I let you all walk over me.
41:54I don't think so.
41:54You've been conned
41:55and brainwashed
41:56by him and his family.
41:57He hasn't brainwashed me.
41:59He has.
42:00Talking of his family,
42:01we've got a statement,
42:02actually,
42:02from Melita,
42:04your mother,
42:04who says,
42:04because I wish that
42:05Bea's family
42:05would leave her
42:06and Glenn alone.
42:07They're old enough
42:08to make their own decisions.
42:09They don't know my son,
42:10so they shouldn't be
42:11accusing him
42:12of being a cheat.
42:12It's disgusting.
42:13I'm the one
42:14that's looking after Bea
42:15since her parents
42:16ruthlessly kicked her
42:17out of their house
42:17and my son was the one
42:19who put a roof over her head.
42:20Instead of hating him,
42:21they should be grateful.
42:23They should be nice to him.
42:24Can I pass the lie detector?
42:26Did you manage
42:27to get your head up?
42:28Yeah.
42:28Get your hand away.
42:29You've been together
42:30four months.
42:30You tell my team,
42:31I am nearly three months pregnant
42:33but I won't prove it.
42:34He said,
42:35my girlfriend
42:36is getting a hard time
42:38from her parents
42:38and I'm going to come
42:39on this show today
42:40and prove these allegations
42:42are futile.
42:42And to be fair to him,
42:43he's already passed
42:44the drugs test.
42:45We asked Glenn
42:46since the start
42:47of your relationship
42:48with Bea,
42:49have you had sexual intercourse
42:50with anyone else?
42:51She smiled.
42:52She holds his hand.
42:53He said no.
42:54He was telling the truth,
42:55ladies and gentlemen.
42:56Shock.
42:57Told her?
42:58However,
42:59pin back your luggos,
43:01girly.
43:01At the start
43:02of the test,
43:03Glenn admitted
43:04kissing a girl
43:05at a party
43:06at the very beginning.
43:07You told me about
43:08your normal party.
43:09Wait.
43:09At the very beginning,
43:10wait.
43:11At the very beginning,
43:11the relationship
43:12he claims that Bea
43:12knows about this.
43:13You do?
43:14I do.
43:14You're happy?
43:15You're happy?
43:16So we changed
43:16the questions, Bea,
43:18to include the admission.
43:19You happy with that?
43:20Yeah.
43:20Understand what I mean?
43:21Mm-hmm.
43:22We asked him
43:22since the start
43:23of your relationship
43:23with Bea,
43:24apart from one occasion
43:25you just admitted to,
43:26have you passionately
43:27kissed anyone else?
43:28He said no.
43:29Why did you say no?
43:30I was telling to her.
43:30Professor's your boyfriend's
43:31a liar, darling.
43:34So that'll be more
43:35than the one he admitted
43:35to and he also
43:37didn't have sex.
43:38Oh, since the start
43:39of the relationship
43:39would be,
43:39apart from kissing,
43:40have you had any other
43:41sexual contact
43:42with anyone else?
43:43Hey, listen to me.
43:45He said no.
43:46Your boyfriend was lying
43:47on that one as well, darling.
43:49I don't care.
43:50You don't care?
43:51Oh, my God.
43:51He's done this.
43:53So let me get this
43:54absolutely right.
43:55This lowlife, okay,
43:57who is not on drugs
43:58anymore, okay,
43:59doesn't work,
44:00doesn't care where
44:01he gets his benefits from,
44:02has probably brainwashed you
44:03and you're holding
44:04a hand of a man
44:05who's had sexual contact
44:07and has kissed
44:09somebody
44:10in four short months
44:11and you're happy
44:12with that, yeah?
44:12I'm not happy about it
44:14but he did tell me.
44:15She knew about it.
44:16You admitted
44:17you kissed somebody, yeah?
44:18So we added that in.
44:20It was somebody else
44:21and it wasn't just a kiss.
44:23There was a lot more.
44:24Admit it.
44:25Why should I admit it
44:26to you for?
44:26Because it's so obvious
44:27you're so...
44:28Do you know what?
44:29The phrase spineless
44:30should apply to you
44:31because you can't even
44:32get your head up,
44:32can you?
44:33Admit it.
44:34Tell her the truth.
44:36Oh, my God.
44:36I'm so with you on this.
44:38What?
44:38What?
44:40Oi.
44:40Admit it.
44:41It was more than one,
44:42wasn't it?
44:43What?
44:43There was more than one.
44:44She knew about it?
44:45What?
44:45You knew there were
44:46two people, did you?
44:46No, just the one
44:47to the same person.
44:48The ones including
44:49the questions.
44:50How thick are you?
44:52I knew there was one.
44:52It was more than one.
44:53It was two.
44:54And it wasn't just a kiss,
44:56darling.
44:56Do you want me to be graphic?
44:58He did a lot more
44:59and you're happy with that.
45:00You're potentially pregnant.
45:01You're not pregnant
45:02with his baby.
45:03I am.
45:04Oh, my God.
45:05What a loss.
45:06You keep out of our life.
45:08You let my daughter go
45:09and get back to normal
45:11because she's not normal now.
45:13What gave you
45:14the right
45:15to give my mobile phone
45:17and blood to your mother?
45:18What have you got the right?
45:19Did that have the one?
45:21I ain't talking to you.
45:21I'm talking to that next to you.
45:23Why are you melting off
45:24for your news to do that?
45:25Just let your mum talk.
45:26But he was normal.
45:27You never messed up like that.
45:28I've always moved off.
45:29You're not normal now.
45:31Can I ask you something?
45:32So you're staying with him?
45:33Yeah.
45:34Well, I'm going to tell you one thing.
45:35That's absolutely all right
45:37because you're 20
45:37and you're going to conquer the world.
45:38She made the bed you lie in it
45:40and I'm going to make sure
45:40that we look after your parents
45:41because they're going to have
45:42to become hard on you.
45:43They didn't give you a rubbish upbringing.
45:44They gave you a great upbringing.
45:46You.
45:46And I don't think
45:46I've ever done this story.
45:48People don't get enough respect
45:49as parents in this country.
45:50I think your parents
45:51probably through hard times
45:52have done a great job
45:53and certainly what you achieved
45:54before you were with him.
45:55What you're doing right now
45:56is sticking your head in the sand
45:58because you weren't going to listen.
46:00Well, darling,
46:00let me tell you something.
46:01When you grow up in the real world,
46:03you'll realise that that,
46:04that is not enough for anybody,
46:06least of all for you.
46:07But when you discover that,
46:08look at me,
46:09and trust me you will
46:10because he's a liar,
46:11these people,
46:12the door will be ajar.
46:13But you will one day thank them
46:15because that,
46:16that you're about to leave
46:18this studio with,
46:19oh my God, darling,
46:20you get more out of that pillar.
46:21Seriously.
46:22I'm going to go and get a job.
46:26Go on, go on.
46:31You've got nothing to do with me.
46:33I'm disowning you all.
46:34Go on.
46:36Good luck in your life, Bea.
46:37You're going to need it.
46:38Bea, Fred, I totally,
46:40Zoe, I get it.
46:41I get, I absolutely get it.
46:44I'll tell you something,
46:45I want you to smack him one then.
46:46You're better than that.
46:47I really want you to hurt him.
46:48Yeah, listen to me.
46:49You're better than that.
46:50The thing is,
46:51you have to do what I said.
46:53You have to keep the door open.
46:54It's not ideal.
46:55You, Fred,
46:55you're a man of the world.
46:56She'll come back.
46:57I offered her not long ago,
46:59like I said,
46:59a bench of tea
47:00and I'd get her a flat
47:01within a couple of weeks.
47:02And the offer's still open now.
47:04She can come back now.
47:05She'll come back, mate.
47:06As long as she leaves,
47:07that slimy little toad.
47:09She'll leave,
47:10she'll leave,
47:11the thing about it
47:12that's quite ironic
47:12is she probably,
47:13when she heard those results,
47:14I bet you,
47:15inside her heart and her head,
47:16she knows everybody's right,
47:17but we know,
47:18listen.
47:18She'd be brainwashed.
47:19When you were a kid,
47:20when somebody told you something,
47:21you did the opposite,
47:22but you just have to leave the door open.
47:23We're going to ask you to sit here.
47:25Love you guys.
47:26We'll do our best, okay?
47:27Thank you so much for coming on.
47:28Give them a round of applause.
47:29Stay well, mate.
47:30Stay well.
47:30That's good.
47:31I'm good to see you.
47:34That's another one in the can
47:35I entered this morning out of time.
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47:44Bye-bye for now.
47:45Bye-bye for now.
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