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00:00This show has been one giant insult to the senses after another.
00:04I apologize.
00:06Daryl is with us today.
00:07Lyme is, he's in Dayton, because that's where you go.
00:12And I'm about to insult the senses even more.
00:15Usually it's like, oh gosh, it's offseason.
00:18Okay, well we started off with the Browns wanted a rule change,
00:21which the reasons behind that,
00:23a lot of people just jumped to the Arch Manning conclusion.
00:26I think you got to think a little deeper of it.
00:28And you can go back and listen to that at 7 o'clock,
00:30but I'll bring it up again before Mary Kay joins us at 8.20 this morning.
00:35But I need some help here.
00:38Tanner McKee is a possibility now, all of a sudden,
00:41for the Cleveland Browns, apparently.
00:45And some of the conversation is getting absolutely ridiculous.
00:48So first off, before I get to the thing that I'm really agitated about,
00:52or that maybe people will agree with John Boyd,
00:54I'm not sure here, Daryl.
00:56So, John, you're an Eagles fan, right?
00:59Yes.
01:00All right.
01:00So, the Eagles traded for Andy Dalton.
01:03People think Tanner McKee is on the market.
01:07And what they would give up for Tanner McKee.
01:09You're an Eagles fan.
01:12Why should or should not the Browns trade for Tanner McKee?
01:16Because I don't know much about him.
01:18I go, perfect time of bringing the Eagles fan.
01:20Away we go.
01:20It depends on what you're giving up for him, right?
01:23I mean, Tanner McKee was mocked at getting a conditional third-round pick
01:26that can turn into a second at the end of the 2024 season
01:28because he played really well against the Cowboys and the Giants
01:35in the last two regular season games in 2024
01:38because Jalen Hurts was injured.
01:39And people were saying this.
01:41And he had been getting preseason hype for the last three years.
01:44So, and there have been real conversations about Tanner McKee.
01:50And this is, when I say real conversations, I mean this is WIP, right?
01:54Okay.
01:54Well, when we talk about real conversations,
01:56we talk about like what general managers may be saying.
01:59Yes.
01:59That's real conversation.
02:00That's not radio fantasy land between guys who look like me.
02:03Go ahead.
02:04The Eagles have always been relatively high on their backup quarterbacks.
02:08Howie Roseman has said time and time again,
02:10we want to be a QB factory.
02:11And the backup quarterbacks Eagles have had in their history have been really solid.
02:16I mean, considering you won a Super Bowl with one
02:18and Jalen Hurts was a backup once.
02:20He usurped your guy that was your savior.
02:22And now Tanner McKee is getting a ton of hype.
02:25So, it depends on what you give up for him.
02:27But if you give up a third or a fourth,
02:28you have to think that the Browns may want him to start at some point.
02:32Would you give that up for Tanner McKee?
02:34I would give up a fourth.
02:39Why do I want to give up anything for Tanner McKee?
02:41And yeah, you can.
02:43Why do I want to move on from the quarterbacks I have for Tanner McKee?
02:46Because Tanner McKee has played well.
02:48I'm not trying to belittle you.
02:49I really want to know.
02:50I swear to God.
02:50I know.
02:51Tanner McKee has played well in the little time that he has had in the NFL.
02:54He actually had more pass attempts this past season than Malik Willis did.
02:58So, and he didn't play well in the one game he started this year.
03:02But also, I kind of do chalk that up to Kevin Petulo.
03:05The Eagles, I mean, that offensive coordinator was terrible.
03:08There's a reason he's not on the team anymore.
03:10But Tanner McKee is an interesting option.
03:12But I don't think that it's this concrete option that you're looking for.
03:16Do you think he's worth the 107th pick in the draft?
03:19I do.
03:21I do.
03:21I mean, I think he's a better option than Dylan Gabriel and potentially Shador.
03:25I'm not having a conversation about Dylan Gabriel.
03:27I will compare him to Shador and I will compare him to, because I have to,
03:31I'll compare him to Deshaun Watson.
03:33But I'm not going to, no offense to Dylan Gabriel.
03:36We're just not having that conversation.
03:38So, you'd like him over Shador Sanders?
03:42I do because he has, his best NFL game is better than Shador's best NFL game.
03:48And it's, I don't know if it's necessarily close,
03:51but also you do have to take into account him playing with.
03:53Shador Sanders' best NFL game set NFL records.
03:56Boom.
03:57Tanner McKee, if you look at what Tanner McKee did in those final two games
04:01of the regular season in 2024, there were legit conversations about the Eagles
04:05flipping him for a pick and he would go start somewhere.
04:09Oh.
04:10Okay.
04:12So, because you brought all that up, that's why I'm a little bit,
04:16I'm questioning this conversation that happened yesterday.
04:20Here's JP and Nick.
04:22This is going to get kind of nuts here, apparently.
04:24This is over Jalen Hurts now.
04:28John, this is over Jalen Hurts.
04:29All right, hit it.
04:30Would you rather a fifth round pick for Tanner McKee or the sixth pick for Jalen Hurts?
04:37What?
04:38Which one would you rather do?
04:39I don't get the question.
04:41Would you rather trade a fifth round pick for Tanner McKee or the sixth pick overall for Jalen Hurts?
04:45Oh, the sixth pick overall.
04:46I thought you meant the sixth round pick.
04:48I said, what are you doing to yourself?
04:50Yeah, you did the sixth overall and you get Jalen Hurts.
04:53It's still not even a question.
04:55I think it might be a question for some people to think Jalen Hurts stinks.
04:57I think it's a question for people in Philadelphia.
04:59Listen, do I think Jalen Hurts is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen?
05:02No, I don't.
05:03Do I think he does come with some limitations?
05:05Yes, I do.
05:06Do I think your big board last year that had him as, what, the fifth best quarterback in the sport
05:09is wrong?
05:10Yes, I do.
05:11I'd love to see the updated version.
05:12Yeah, well, he's not the fifth best quarterback in the NFL now.
05:15He didn't just win the Super Bowl.
05:16All right, well, when you made the list, that's what he was, right?
05:18Yeah.
05:19He was fifth best.
05:19After winning the Super Bowl.
05:20I think he's probably like around, I don't know, anywhere from nine to 12, somewhere in that range.
05:24It's a respectable range.
05:26I'd give up the number six overall pick for Jalen Hurts.
05:29I don't even think that's a hot take.
05:31Do I like to talk about sports?
05:32I do.
05:32Do I like to wake up in the morning?
05:33I do.
05:34Do I like to have coffee in the morning?
05:35I do.
05:35I love the rhetorical questions.
05:36I'm sorry.
05:37I had to do it.
05:38All right.
05:39He would give up a sixth overall pick for Jalen Hurts.
05:43Would you give up a sixth overall pick for Jalen Hurts?
05:45Are you giving up a sixth overall pick for a guy that would become the greatest quarterback
05:50in the history of your franchise?
05:52Oh, for the love of God, I can't do it.
05:53I can't do it.
05:54Would you give up a sixth overall pick to make the playoffs every single year?
05:57I'm going to kick him in the face.
05:58Guys, I can't do it.
05:59No, no.
05:59I got new shoes on.
06:02Did you just say he'd be the greatest quarterback since coming back to Cleveland?
06:07He's going to be better than Otto Graham.
06:08I'm not yelling at you.
06:09Since coming back to Cleveland.
06:10He's going to be better than Brian Seip was.
06:11Since 1999.
06:12He's going to be better than Bernie Kosar.
06:14I'm not yelling at John.
06:15I'm yelling at Jonathan for putting it in his head, apparently.
06:19I'm yelling at Jonathan for putting it in his head, apparently.
06:23Would you like to make the playoffs every year?
06:24We're giving up six.
06:25You're giving up six overall for Jalen Hurts.
06:27To make the playoffs every year.
06:29But you guys had a big argument about starting Tanner McKee last year.
06:33This Philadelphia sports radio is absolutely asinized.
06:35You said it was a serious conversation.
06:38Yeah.
06:38Then why the hell would you put Tanner McKee on the trade block, apparently, quote unquote,
06:42if you were going to start him over Jalen Hurts, who somehow we would give up a six overall pick
06:47for.
06:47It's not a real.
06:47This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in the history of this station.
06:50It ain't your fault.
06:51I ain't yelling at you, young man.
06:53I ain't yelling at you.
06:54This is dumb.
06:55This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
06:57And he knows it.
06:58That's why he's hiding, because he's laughing at me.
07:00Because he knows I've lost my mind over this.
07:02Of all the stupid things that have been said on these airwaves in 14 years, this is easily the most
07:08recent.
07:08I still love you, Les.
07:10Second of all, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
07:12We have lost our minds.
07:14We have literally taken the bottom lip and wrapped it over our heads now, and we are suffocating for air.
07:21This is dumb.
07:23Guys, this is stupid.
07:24Do you hear what's coming out of our mouths?
07:28I don't think I've ever seen you this mad.
07:29Because I can't stand the stupidity.
07:32I can't do it.
07:33The six overall for Jalen Hurts from a team that was going to, quote unquote, start Tanner McKee over him.
07:38And the reason to do it is because he's better than Johnny Manziel?
07:42Because he's better than Charlie Fry?
07:45What?
07:46What?
07:48I'm serious.
07:50I'm serious.
07:52John, I know you're, I'm not, I don't want to come over the table at you, but I don't want
07:56to scare you.
07:59Owen!
08:00Daryl!
08:02Guys!
08:04Please!
08:07Please!
08:08Please!
08:08Please keep you from having this aneurysm that's happening on air right now?
08:12Somebody have some common sense!
08:14I'm not the one that said make the trade.
08:16How does Jonathan, how does he reach that?
08:19How do people agree with it?
08:21I'm surprised he didn't say the Browns should, this is why the Browns want to get to five years worth
08:27of draft picks.
08:28Please!
08:28So they can trade for Jalen Hurts.
08:30One first would do it.
08:31I thought for sure that's what you were going to say.
08:32One first would do it.
08:33If you, I think, okay, does 24 make it a little bit more stomachable?
08:41No!
08:43No!
08:44Try 39.
08:45Try 39 on him, John.
08:47Oh, I hear about every, I'm like, even when they won the Super Bowl, it was like, hey, is Jalen
08:52Hurts top 10?
08:53Eh, I don't know.
08:54I don't know.
08:55Hemming and Haw.
08:55I'm not Hemming and Haw over a quarterback I'm giving up number six overall for.
08:59No.
09:00I'm not doing it.
09:01Good God.
09:04What has gone, is it the people on the internet?
09:07What is it?
09:08What's made us so crazy?
09:10What?
09:11Well, you know, the Browns have won so many games managing that salary cap over the years, Ken.
09:16God, this is dumb.
09:16This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
09:19And again, you're not dumb, John.
09:21I'm not calling you dumb.
09:22But do you understand why I think it's so damn stupid?
09:25Do you get what I'm saying here?
09:27I understand.
09:27You're trying to sell me Tanner McKee and fourth round picks and fifth round picks and more garbage for all
09:34this other stuff.
09:35And now I'm going to bring it.
09:35Well, you know, you guys could give up a six overall pick for Jalen Hurts.
09:39Why do I give up a six overall pick for Jalen Hurts when you guys just wanted to start Tanner
09:43McKee?
09:43Well, you should really take Tanner McKee off for hands.
09:45Well, why is he even on the trade block if you guys want to start him over Jalen Hurts, apparently?
09:50This is dumb.
09:50Just say you guys are trying to take advantage of a desperate fan base.
09:54And for everybody else, you've all been worked into a shoot.
09:57Am I the only sane one left?
10:00I know I don't sound sane.
10:03This isn't, this is nuts.
10:05This is nuts.
10:07I, I, all I can do is laugh.
10:09Um, because yeah, of, um, I'm not putting out, I'm not putting out the phone number for people who agree
10:15with this silliness.
10:15No, that's, I need, I need common sense.
10:18Usually it's like, if you guys disagree with me, call me up.
10:22No, no, no, no, no.
10:23I need confirmation that I'm not crazy, that I'm not the silly one here, that I'm not the stupid one
10:28here.
10:29I need a 2-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
10:32I need confirmation.
10:34That's what I need.
10:36Because I, you can hear it in my voice.
10:38I am, I am as desperate for sanity.
10:42I don't care about the draft anymore.
10:43I'm about to rip the, rip up the sheets.
10:45I don't care.
10:46If we're going to talk about this, the guys, you've completely lost the plot.
10:50And we deserve whatever comes to us.
10:52I'm telling you right now, if we're going to advocate this, this for Jalen Hurts, please.
10:57I don't even hate Jalen Hurts.
10:59But is he worth giving up six overall?
11:01No.
11:02Nope.
11:05And you're going, well, maybe 24.
11:0724?
11:08The difference between 24 and six is, oh.
11:11I mean, this is, but your reaction is crazy.
11:13Your reaction is, is, I wouldn't, I don't know if that's.
11:17Why are you, why are you trying, as an Eagles fan, why are you trying to sell us Jalen Hurts?
11:21I'm not trying to sell you Jalen Hurts.
11:23And then you're trying to sell us Tanner McKee.
11:24What are you trying to sell me?
11:26You guys are, this has happened for the last three weeks in this station, where you look
11:29at a quarterback.
11:30Yeah, what's happened for the last three weeks of the station, as we've spun a big wheel,
11:34looking for any quarterback to talk about, because we're so damn desperate to replace
11:38a guy, because we're all worked into a shoot over people on the internet.
11:41That's why.
11:42And again, can I even say he's that great?
11:44No.
11:45But I'd rather just tread water, as Albert Breer said yesterday or two days ago, I'd
11:49rather just tread water than whatever this is.
11:51This is, I can't, I can't, I'm serious.
11:54I can't be a part of this.
11:55I cannot, I don't want my name to attach to this.
11:57I don't want my name to attach to any of this stuff.
11:59I'm sorry I even brought it up before.
12:01I'm sorry we ever had these conversations.
12:03For all these suck-ass quarterbacks that are out there, scraping the bottom of the barrel.
12:08That's all we are.
12:09That's all we're doing.
12:10That's all we're doing.
12:11Begging on the corner for all these other quarterbacks.
12:14I'm sick and damn tired of it.
12:16I'll grind it out on our leather ass for another year with Shador and Deshaun and even Dylan
12:22Gabriel.
12:23I'm done.
12:23I'm done having these silly-ass conversations about these guys.
12:26Oh my God.
12:27I'm getting tweets yesterday.
12:28Ken, don't you want Drew Haller?
12:29Look at how great his pro day is.
12:31Yeah, you want to bring him here?
12:32When he was in a 100,000-seat fishbowl over the last four years and where he had a terrible
12:37offensive coordinator and a coach who couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag in any
12:41game that mattered and you want to bring in Drew Haller here and bring him back home
12:44with this fan base behind those quarterbacks?
12:47Oh yeah, I'm sure that's going to be really good for a guy who struggled at Penn State
12:50with all the pressure that was on him.
12:51That's going to be real good for Drew Haller.
12:53Yeah, bring him back home with Browns fans.
12:54Yeah, that's going to be good.
12:55Yeah.
12:56That's going to work out real well.
12:58Real well.
12:59Have him go in for Shador and make sure he has his phone never around him because that's
13:05going to be hell on earth.
13:06Yeah.
13:06We're going to be the one to fix it.
13:08I mean, my God, I can't believe I haven't said terrible words.
13:11I hope I haven't because I'm delirious right now.
13:14This is dumb.
13:16This is dumb.
13:17I had someone on Sunday try and convince me that taking Ty Simpson in the first round
13:22of the draft would be a good idea for the Browns.
13:27You know what?
13:28Honestly?
13:29Honestly.
13:30John, thank you.
13:31Again, I'm not yelling at you.
13:32I know.
13:32Okay?
13:33He really is.
13:35He's got it in him.
13:36I'm saying it.
13:36The kid's got him in.
13:37He's got it in him.
13:38You need to work with Owen more, but the kid's got it in him.
13:41I'm telling you.
13:41I see something in this kid.
13:43But he's trying to sell us the two Eagles quarterbacks.
13:46He's an Eagles fan.
13:48I know.
13:48He's allowed to mess with our heads.
13:49I know.
13:50He's allowed to mess with our heads.
13:50John, turn your mic off.
13:52We'll walk him back in about last night.
13:54Okay?
13:55Let me take this for another minute and a half because I just got to get this off my chest
13:58because I can't believe I'm saying this.
14:00If they went and they got Ty Simpson, I would be worried.
14:05Yes, I would be worried.
14:07If they went and got Ty Simpson, I could still go, okay, you know what?
14:11You've planted your flag on the future.
14:14Let's see where it goes.
14:15If we're just giving up six overall picks for Jalen Hurts, guys, I don't hate Jalen Hurts,
14:22but good God.
14:25Like, there's like four quarterbacks you'd give up six overall for.
14:29Four.
14:30You know where we'd go.
14:31Our offensive line, I mean, we're defending an offensive line that hasn't played with each other.
14:36And by the way, those four quarterbacks are not available.
14:39No.
14:39No.
14:40But that's what I'm saying.
14:41I'd give up six overall for like four quarterbacks out there that aren't even realistic.
14:47Even if they took Ty Simpson at 24 in the first round or whatever, I'd go, boy,
14:51there must be something special about this guy.
14:54I could talk myself into him.
14:55I can't.
14:55Then they're out of the Arch Manning sweepstakes for good.
15:01It's bad for Brown's psyche.
15:03It's bad for our business.
15:04I hate that I even had the conversation.
15:06I hate that my name is attached to it.
15:10I'm not laughing.
15:11I'm not laughing.
15:13That's a Ken Carman classic.
15:15I'm dead serious.
15:16I use coded language every now and then where I say like, I think something is silly.
15:21Because I don't like calling things stupid.
15:23I don't like, I think it's demeaning.
15:24I don't like, I don't like to get people upset on purpose or anything like that.
15:28But I feel when I have to say something is stupid or dumb, then I have to call it stupid
15:33and dumb to get the point across there every now and then it has to happen.
15:37And that argument or that, that segment that we just had, I had to use those words and I
15:44apologize for using those words.
15:45And again, John's not stupid or dumb.
15:47Just the entire thought of it is.
15:49To me, entertaining it is.
15:51And of course, I have a lot of people on the internet who disagree with me.
15:55And the reasoning is because they're better than anything that we have currently in the
16:00room.
16:00That Jalen Hurts and giving up six overall, six overall guys, giving up the six overall
16:06pick for Jalen Hurts is better than anything we have in our room.
16:09In our QB room.
16:10And I says, okay, okay, that's fine.
16:12And then the other one is that he's better than all the other QBs that we've ever had
16:16in, since 99.
16:18Oh, okay.
16:19That's all right.
16:20Um, that's, that's not what I'm giving up number six overall.
16:23If I just sit there and say, he's better than all these other guys that we've had in the
16:27past, the guys, this, it's a low bar.
16:29We are sitting here talking about QBs.
16:32I'm trying to keep my head on straight here and not do what I did in the last segment.
16:35Cause I'm afraid I'm going to say words and they might slip through and I might get in a
16:38lot of trouble.
16:41Um, I'm really trying not to say some really terrible things right now.
16:45Not about Jalen Hurts, fine enough quarterback, but fine enough.
16:48It's not worth six.
16:49It's not worth six overall.
16:51It's not.
16:52And, uh, I'm not, not going to do it.
16:56I'm not going to do it.
16:57And I don't like talking about it.
16:59And, uh, this is what you have where I think a lot of people are coming to the grips of
17:04reality
17:05where I tried to tell everybody.
17:07And I know you did too, Daryl.
17:09Kyler Murray don't want to come here.
17:11Like I got the, you said, Kyler Murray isn't good enough.
17:16I don't like Kyler Murray.
17:17I really don't.
17:18Um, uh, that, that Malik Willis guys, they don't, they aren't coming here.
17:21They don't want to be a part of the mess right now.
17:23All right.
17:24You have to dig out on your own.
17:25That's why I'm saying about treading water and it's not fun and it's really not entertaining,
17:29but it's the best way through this.
17:31Okay.
17:32I got to stop.
17:33When I say this, it's not just like things I think are fun lines that I'm going to use
17:36later on TV and the tease later on, on Fox eight.
17:39I'm being serious.
17:40Stop trying to find a way to dig out.
17:43You need to find a way forward.
17:46Most of us did not create this mess.
17:48We didn't ask for this mess.
17:49The mess is here at our doorstep.
17:51I have to deal with it.
17:52I cannot keep trying to find ways to save us from this mess.
17:57Jalen hurts is not going to save us from this mess.
18:00Give me an offensive line.
18:01You think that offensive line touches the offensive lines that he's had there in the
18:03past?
18:04Defenses are comparable, but you know, I said that to John during the break and it's not
18:07even John that's bringing up.
18:08It's just somehow it got brought up during conversation.
18:11I go, guys, we've really lost our minds here.
18:13We've really just lost our minds.
18:14And I am stuck because I'm not trying to advocate for Shador Sanders to that level.
18:19Cause I, I think that there's a definite concern that we can get halfway through the
18:23year and it's like, it's time to time to pull the plug on this.
18:27Cause I don't know how he's going to react to all this.
18:29I don't, I don't know.
18:31I think it might be better with Todd Haley or Todd Haley.
18:34I think it might be better with Todd Munkin.
18:35See, now I'm thinking about the past, but I'm not sure.
18:38And by the way, there's some very interesting audio from a former bronze player.
18:41And you guys are going to think I disagree with him when it comes to Kevin Stefanski.
18:45I think I'm going to shock you guys with what I have to say about what this former
18:48bronze player had to say about Kevin Stefanski that coming up later in the show.
18:50I promise you that, but I'm getting all these comparisons to all these terrible
18:56quarterbacks in the past.
18:57And like, I got to compete with quarterbacks of the now I cannot compete with the
19:03terrible ghosts of the past.
19:06And I don't know how else to say it guys.
19:08I don't know how else to say it.
19:09So honestly, I, I always like to throw it out and go, well, I'd like to be inviting.
19:13And if you'd like to come on the show and, and say, Kenny, this is why you're wrong.
19:17And, and, and I'll open that up.
19:18Maybe I'm wrong.
19:19Maybe I'm crazy.
19:20I don't want to do that.
19:21I actually want to confirm that there's not other crazy people out there that we haven't
19:25lost our minds.
19:26Cause this is to me, this is to talk about a six overall, to have a conversation about
19:32the backup of the Philadelphia Eagles and that he's on the block.
19:38When there was an argument to start him over Jalen Hurts and then to turn around and have
19:43a conversation about giving up number six overall, Daryl for Jalen Hurts to me is a form
19:50of air pollution.
19:52Yeah.
19:52That I cannot stand by.
19:54That's one way to put it.
19:55I am polluted.
19:56If I advocate for this, I am polluting the brains of Browns fans and I am polluting the
20:01young people's minds who are driving with their fathers right now.
20:04I cannot do that.
20:06He is a, he is a fair quarterback, but my Lord, I, I'm looking at my Browns bleep sheet
20:17right now of the legendary 42 quarterbacks that have attempted to play the sport of professional
20:24football since 1999.
20:26Boy, there's some winners on this list.
20:29Throwing Jalen Hurts on there would be the, uh, well, he would, he would be the best.
20:34I'm not saying he'd be the best, but what are you, what is your competition in that list?
20:39The whole, the whole reason the Browns may actually, is he the best?
20:42Is he better than Baker Mayfield?
20:44I'm sorry.
20:45The, the whole reason to bring him up.
20:47The whole reason they traded for Deshaun Watson was because they believed he was going to
20:53help them win a Superbowl.
20:54That's why they made that trade.
20:56Yeah.
20:57And if you're giving, if you're giving up the number six overall pick for Jalen Hurts,
21:01you believe he's going to help you win a Superbowl.
21:03I don't, but like, that's the standard.
21:07The standard is not just to be competitive.
21:09Okay.
21:11Like that, that's this, the standard is to win a Superbowl.
21:14Maybe here in Cleveland, because the Browns, the only thing they're good at is managing
21:19the salary cap because we know winning football games, isn't it?
21:22Okay.
21:24The standard is to win a Superbowl.
21:26It's not just to be, well, let's just be competitive.
21:29The Steelers are competitive.
21:31They're miserable in Pittsburgh right now.
21:33They've been competitive.
21:34They're in the playoffs every year.
21:35They lose in the first round every year.
21:37They haven't gotten the plot yet.
21:39They need to burn that thing down and start over.
21:41Also, Kevin Demoff, the president of the Rams, he agrees with you about the picks.
21:46So we got one.
21:47Mr. Bleak Them Picks guy is on board with the Browns.
21:50Well, I think it was Les Snead who said it, but I'm sure Kevin Demoff agreed with him.
21:52Yeah.
21:53All right.
21:542-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
21:57I'm looking for common sense.