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00:00On today's show...
00:02This sex life is so good, apparently you dress up.
00:05Yep. As a nurse.
00:20Why are you sending messages to other women?
00:23Got bored.
00:25Have you cheated on her? No.
00:26Let me think he's a liar.
00:30You say my mother will never, ever accept anybody I bring home.
00:36It's just a nightmare. In fact, she's made me homeless.
00:41She's just called your daughter a dirty little threat.
00:44Do you think she learnt it from her? Not from me!
00:47At 20 years of age, they threw you out and kept your stuff.
00:51Nice.
00:52Turn on the Jeremy Coucher.
00:54I don't think I'm getting spectacular.
00:56She's not getting spectacular.
00:57What's the time you're gonna get?
00:58A boyfriend comes to my party, right?
01:00Doctor's on first.
01:01Can I get him out? Can you get me a shirt?
01:06I love you, you get it!
01:08I love you, you get it!
01:08Do it!
01:09I'll shoot you!
01:15Get out of my building! Get out of my building!
01:36Thank you, my friends. Good morning and a big, big welcome to the show.
01:39Now, our first guest today, Rose, is here for very important lie detector results.
01:43She says, just a few weeks ago, she discovered flirtatious messages being exchanged online between her fiancé Daniel and another
01:51woman.
01:51But that's not all. Brace yourselves, ladies and gentlemen.
01:54Rose also says she believes that Daniel is cheating on her whilst he's out walking their dog.
02:00She says what used to be a 20-minute walk around the block is now taking him over an hour.
02:03And she fears if it's not picking up the dog poo, then he must be picking up something else.
02:07Rose is on The Jeremy Kyle Show.
02:15How are you?
02:16How are you all right?
02:18Welcome to the show.
02:19So, he's not picking up dog poo, he's picking up a bird.
02:21Yep.
02:22Right, you and Daniel, a year?
02:24Yep.
02:25Oh, God. How did you meet?
02:27Erm, Facebook.
02:30What?
02:31Facebook.
02:31So, you met at...
02:32Now, you got engaged, he asked you out over a text, I knew it was love at first sight.
02:38Well, you read it and went, that's love.
02:39You know what it was?
02:41We've seen each other previously before that.
02:43And erm...
02:44Oh, look.
02:44We er...
02:45So, the engagement ring?
02:46Yeah.
02:47Got engaged after two weeks.
02:49We were watching...
02:52Tell him what you were watching when he asked you...
02:54Horror film.
02:54Horror movie.
02:56Erm, we have a dog.
02:58Yep.
02:59Can I have a picture of Coco, please?
03:01There's the dog.
03:04What's wrong with you lot?
03:06It's cute.
03:07That's Coco the dog, right.
03:09He's like our child.
03:10Yeah.
03:11Is he?
03:11Yeah.
03:12Now, now, I don't mean to be rude.
03:13Before we talk about whether he's out walking the dog or doing something else, you say,
03:17the sex is amazing.
03:18Yep.
03:20Well, it was until you suspect...
03:23Until you suspected that he was messing around.
03:26You told my team, the sex is amazing.
03:28We use cream.
03:29Yep.
03:31What do you mean we...
03:33Shut up.
03:33What do you mean we use cream?
03:35We used to put it on each other.
03:38What?
03:38Whipped cream?
03:40Yeah.
03:41That one?
03:42Yeah.
03:42Where about...
03:43I don't even want to ask.
03:45Whips?
03:46Yep.
03:47Chains?
03:48Yep.
03:48And you've even been dogging?
03:50Yep.
03:50What?
03:51What?
03:52With Coco?
03:55No, see, listen.
03:57So, I don't know about dogging.
04:00Steve, probably.
04:00Do you know about dogging, Steve?
04:02No, I missed it, though.
04:03No, I missed it, though.
04:04What's dogging, then?
04:05Basically, you go and have it out in the woods.
04:08And if you get caught, you get caught.
04:10Isn't that where you go and flash your car lights and everything?
04:13Now, apparently, before we talk about...
04:14This sex life is so good, apparently, you dress up.
04:17Yep.
04:18As a nurse.
04:21Easy outfit.
04:22What do you want to do when we get to the lab?
04:24You can't take it.
04:38You can't take it.
04:41I am a nurse.
04:41You're supposed to meet the lab.
04:42You can't take it.
04:44You have to go.
04:45You can't take it, you.
04:45I'm black.
04:45I love you.
04:47Come on up, I'm black.
04:48I love you.
04:49I love you.
04:50I love you.
04:51I love you.
04:51I love you.
04:58Come here, come here, alright, he's not letting me do that.
05:10Give William a round of applause, look at that.
05:16Right, see, whips, chips, chains and bits, cream, outfits, how many times, listen to this, how many times a day?
05:24Six, seven times.
05:27Six or seven times a day?
05:29Yep.
05:30You told my team, and I have to say, he, I mean, I don't quite, you'll identify with this, Steve,
05:36apparently he's quite well endowed.
05:38Yep.
05:40What do we mean?
05:42He's...
05:43Why are you laughing?
05:44Your eyes are watering again.
05:45Look, if it was all so good, how we ended up on the Jeremy Kyle show with the dog?
05:50Because, um, what it is, he takes, he used to take the dog out 20 minutes a day for a
05:55walk round the block, and then come back, and lately it's been like an hour, an hour and a half
06:01day, I'll take the dog out for a walk.
06:02Well, maybe he lost the dog.
06:03No.
06:04You told my team, I found messages on his phone, he's planning to meet another woman and spread cream all
06:09over her.
06:11I put a sex ban on him now.
06:13Yep.
06:14And you said, and you said, honestly, she said, she's taking the dog out two or three times a day,
06:20we're not having any sex as a result of that, because you don't trust him, the dog's still here.
06:24Who's walking the dog?
06:26Who's...
06:27Is that a dog walker, a professional dog walker?
06:29Nice pink lead.
06:30Um, you're on a sex ban.
06:32If he fails, you say, I don't care about anything, it's over.
06:35Yeah, and I'm taking cocoa with me.
06:39Forget the fact you're going to lose your relationship, and your missus is going to dress up for somebody else,
06:43you're going to lose the dog.
06:44Do you think he's going to pass the test?
06:45Well, I'm hoping he does, but if he does, you're back to the hotel and you're dressing up again, taking
06:49his pulse.
06:50If he doesn't, you're gone, yeah?
06:51Yeah.
06:51Let's get him out.
06:52Daniel's on the Jeremy Carl Show that way.
07:02I'm coming to the Jeremy Carl Show to prove to Rose that I haven't been cheated.
07:06Why is the dog walk taking so long, then?
07:08You've got to go for a long walk down the beach.
07:11You wouldn't know about that.
07:13Why, you missus?
07:13Pardon?
07:14You wouldn't know about that.
07:15I wouldn't know about what?
07:17Going for walks.
07:18What?
07:21Oh, I'm sorry.
07:22What, suddenly I can't walk.
07:24I'm sorry, I'm going to go for a walk.
07:26I'm going to walk all the way.
07:27I go for a...
07:28Have you not seen this show?
07:29I walk everywhere.
07:30That's what I do.
07:31What do you mean I wouldn't know about walking?
07:33Might not know about sex six or seven times a day.
07:36Anyway, keep going.
07:37So, why are you...
07:39Are you cheating?
07:40Tell me about the messages to the other...
07:42I'm getting dizzy now.
07:43Tell me about...
07:43I'm going the other way.
07:44Tell me about the messages to the other woman saying you want to put cream all over her.
07:48Go on, tell me about that.
07:49A bit of fun, isn't it?
07:50What?
07:50It's a bit of fun.
07:51But I mean, that's not actually...
07:52I'm just going to walk up here.
07:54That's not actually the way that you should treat somebody that you love.
07:56Because she thinks...
07:57Watch this.
07:57This has never happened in the history of the Jeremy Carr show.
08:00It's been lovely.
08:00All right?
08:01There you go.
08:01Watch this.
08:02Still blooming working.
08:04There we go.
08:04Time.
08:05Time.
08:07So, um...
08:08You're right.
08:09I'm not going to take a taxi.
08:10Right.
08:11Why are you sending messages to other women?
08:14Come on.
08:14I got bored.
08:15Tell her...
08:16What?
08:17I'm the one that cheated.
08:18What?
08:18I'm not the one that cheated.
08:20Who?
08:20Oh.
08:20Did you cheat on it?
08:22Yeah, twice at the beginning of the relationship.
08:24Oh, he didn't get that.
08:27At the beginning?
08:28Yeah.
08:28Did you tell him?
08:29No, he found out.
08:30He found out.
08:31Oh, now the story's changing.
08:33What do you mean you cheated?
08:35Why aren't you doing a lie detector?
08:38Because there's nothing for me to prove.
08:40I've told him he's found out.
08:41How do we know that you're not still at it with that other person?
08:44How do we know that you didn't have sex with somebody out of revenge?
08:46That's what you're saying.
08:47Have you cheated on her?
08:48No.
08:49She says if you have, it's a bit rich saying that you'll go if he's cheated when you've done
08:52the dirty already, isn't it?
08:54Yeah.
08:55Is that it?
08:55We're not talking...
08:56We're having mine twice.
08:58How do you manage six or seven times a day?
09:00Have you not got work to do or anything?
09:02No.
09:03No.
09:05She says she's going to take your dog away if she cheated.
09:08No one's taking my dog.
09:10I trained it.
09:11I feed it.
09:12I look after it.
09:12I walk it.
09:13No, you...
09:14Well, talk to her, not me.
09:16Because you can't handle it, so I take it.
09:18You can't handle it.
09:19She can handle it.
09:20She handles it six or seven times a day.
09:22You can't handle the dog.
09:23That's not the dog.
09:24That's that.
09:26You got a name for that?
09:28Yeah, called Frank.
09:32It's called Frank.
09:33Yeah.
09:34The government have a phone line called Frank for drugs.
09:37I don't know.
09:37I'd hate to think they phoned up and ended up.
09:39Now, apparently, there are techniques that are important.
09:42Is that right?
09:42Who's got special techniques?
09:45Me.
09:45What do you do that's different from other men?
09:47I use ice cubes, cream.
09:52Apparently, you have different techniques as well, haven't you?
09:55You told us.
09:56What's her technique?
09:57BEEP.
09:59Oh!
10:04Turn the camera to me.
10:06I'll just...
10:07Can you imagine, right?
10:09Can you imagine if you've just tuned in to the Jeremy Kyle show?
10:15A woman who admits to dressing up as a nurse.
10:18We've already seen that.
10:20And him.
10:21What did you just say?
10:25What's that mean?
10:26Do you not know what I is?
10:27No!
10:27Oh, my days.
10:38I'm slightly put off to the dogs on screen.
10:41You're a bit past it, aren't you?
10:43You don't know all these things.
10:43I'm a what?
10:44You're a bit past it.
10:45You don't know all this stuff, do you?
10:48You've got any sad music for me up there.
10:53I'm a bit past it.
10:54I need some sad music.
10:55You think I'm past it, do you?
10:57Yeah, you're right.
10:57Well, I'll tell you what.
10:58You sit here.
10:59You sit here.
11:00Go on.
11:01I'll sit here.
11:01Go on, sit on the step.
11:07I'm past it, and I don't know what to do with my life.
11:09Can you help me?
11:12Some tools you can get from the doctor for that.
11:15Yeah.
11:15Some tools you can get.
11:17What?
11:18Nah.
11:18What am I going to do with my life?
11:19It's over.
11:20I can't.
11:20Nobody wants to be with me, and I'm past it.
11:22What should I do?
11:24That's not my problem.
11:28Do the link, then.
11:29No, you're right.
11:29You can do that.
11:30Do it yourself.
11:31Go on, try it.
11:32Just say, after the break, all important lie detector results.
11:35Right back on.
11:35There you go.
11:35I don't need to do it.
11:36Do it now.
11:36I've got my monkey grind.
11:37You're used to it.
11:38What did you just say?
11:39I've got my monkey grind.
11:40I do it for me.
11:42After the break, all important lie detector results.
11:45Did he try and spread cream over another woman whilst walking the dog?
11:50I know it's the most bizarre thing I've ever asked.
11:52I'm going to continue this part whilst walking around in circles.
11:54See you in a minute.
11:55Bye.
11:55We asked Daniel, since the start of your relationship with Rose, have you passionately kissed anyone else who said no?
12:00Why don't you say no, Daniel?
12:01Car on the truth.
12:04She's your daughter.
12:05It's disgusting.
12:06I don't know what you've got.
12:08Well, maybe if you've done a better job, her life wouldn't be in the toilet.
12:12What, you obviously didn't, didn't you?
12:13Yes, I did.
12:21Have you got a jealous partner?
12:23Are you the one that cannot control your jealousy?
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12:55Welcome back for the break.
12:56Speaking of Rosendale, let's get serious.
12:58This relationship has been going on for a year.
13:00Yeah, we've talked about the dog.
13:01We've talked about the sex.
13:02We've talked about the outfits.
13:03We've talked about the whips and the chips and the whatever else there is.
13:05But you say, um, I, I mean, when you came out, we didn't know this.
13:10She cheated on you at the beginning.
13:11Why did you forgive her?
13:12I didn't ask you that.
13:14Because it's just something you do, don't you, when you love someone.
13:16And you do love her?
13:17Yeah.
13:17And you say, I haven't cheated.
13:19I forgave you.
13:20We need to put this behind us.
13:21You see, you've got that look on your face that says to me that even if I have cheated,
13:24you're going to jump up and down and say she did the same.
13:26You there, you gave it this whole thing about him, about how you found messages from other women
13:31that he goes out now walking the dog and it takes an age.
13:34But what you didn't say was that you cheated on him.
13:36Surely if he cheated, that would be your comeuppance, wouldn't it?
13:39Yeah.
13:39So if he has cheated, you're not going to walk away.
13:41You're going to go, well, I've done it and you've done it.
13:43But you said, I'm leaving.
13:44Why?
13:45Because if he would have done it at the first of the relationship, then I wouldn't have
13:48minded.
13:48I might have forgiven him, but we're meant to love each of us.
13:51I trust each of us.
13:52But obviously it's too far.
13:55You haven't spoken to each other since you came out.
13:57Why don't you speak to each other?
13:59How does she feel when she put you on a sex band?
14:01It didn't take me long to get back there, has it?
14:03What does she say?
14:03I'm not having sex.
14:04What?
14:05Can I, um, are you all right?
14:08You're not wearing that outfit anymore.
14:09No?
14:10Now watch this.
14:10How many people think the owner of Coco's is going to pass the lie detector to put your
14:14hand in the air?
14:15How many think he's a liar?
14:19You told my team I'll leave if he's cheated.
14:22We asked Daniel, since the start of your relationship with Rose, have you passionately kissed anyone
14:26else?
14:27You said no.
14:27Why did you say no, Daniel?
14:28Tell him the truth.
14:29He was telling the truth, ladies and gentlemen.
14:35It's a study of Rachel Rose, have you had sexual contact with anyone else?
14:39You said no.
14:39Why don't you say no?
14:40Tell him the truth.
14:41He was telling the truth in fact.
14:44You know I was stupid.
14:46He passed every single question.
14:54So you basically put him on a sex band because he took too long to, why, this is the issue
14:59and I didn't really honestly think that I was going to go to university for this, why does
15:03it now take you twice as long to walk the dog?
15:05Just get carried away with the walking.
15:08Just walk and walk and walk for miles with the dog.
15:09Do you?
15:10Why don't you walk to the job centre?
15:13I do.
15:14I'm on the other night.
15:16I'm driving the blues.
15:17So he hasn't cheated on you and you've put a sex band on him.
15:21He hasn't cheated.
15:22You were the one who did at the beginning.
15:23He passed it absolutely and you haven't said anything.
15:26I'm sorry for accusing you for cheating.
15:28It's all right.
15:29Six times tonight then.
15:32Sorry, hold on a minute.
15:33Six times in the night?
15:35Yeah.
15:37Give me the act.
15:41Anyway, put it back on.
15:43You can wear that in your own time.
15:44Should I put it on now?
15:45Well done for telling the truth.
15:47The dogs just, but why don't you go for a walk with him?
15:50Get out of here.
15:50Give him a round of applause.
15:58I think they'll be having a good night.
15:59Right, now you might remember some of my next guests from a previous show on that very stage.
16:04Take a look at this, my friends.
16:06Tell me about David, 22, going out with your daughter Kayleen, 19.
16:10He's the lowest form of scum on the planet at the moment.
16:14You say he takes drugs, he's stolen money from our house.
16:16He's a criminal.
16:17Why the hell would anybody want their daughter to be with something like that?
16:19You've stolen from the bloke and you expect him to think you're all right.
16:23Just answer that.
16:24Yeah, I admit I did it, but I repaid it back in return.
16:27What did you steal?
16:2820 pounds.
16:29Why?
16:30Because at the time, yeah, I was doing drugs.
16:32You've got no respect for my daughter at all.
16:35Whatever, whatever.
16:36No, you are me.
16:36Whatever, Shaz.
16:37You've got no respect.
16:38I've got to leave my job because I'm stressed the team.
16:40You're blaming Kayleen.
16:42You're blaming Kayleen for it.
16:43He consumed cheating on him.
16:45I don't want nothing to do with you anymore.
16:47You don't want anything to do with your parents.
16:49Because I love David.
16:51I don't want to put you up, mate.
16:52Come on, then.
16:53I'm making friends.
16:54Stop making friends, mate.
16:56Excuse me.
16:57I'm just going to whack you.
17:00You're static, mate.
17:01You're cheating.
17:02That doesn't help.
17:03That doesn't help.
17:04Listen to me.
17:05You're not listening, are you?
17:06They love you.
17:07They're worried about...
17:09Yes, we do love you, Kayleen.
17:11I don't know what you two did to me.
17:12I haven't done nothing.
17:14What did they do to you?
17:14What?
17:14To kick me out?
17:17Now, as you can see, emotions were running high.
17:19And since that show, Kayleen split up from her then-boyfriend
17:22and is now in a new relationship.
17:23However, she's back today to confront Mum Sharon,
17:25who she says has kicked her out again,
17:28made her homeless.
17:29And she says, do you know what?
17:30She doesn't like any boyfriend I have.
17:32And do you know what?
17:33She's not a good mother herself.
17:34I reckon she's been cheating on my dad behind his back.
17:39Strong words.
17:40Kayleen's next on The Kyle Show.
17:41All right, so we're going to cut to the chase,
17:51because I've had a very shock...
17:52What?
17:57Your mother's back.
17:57I didn't stop lying.
17:58Who are you?
17:59I'm a brother.
18:00Can you wait till I've spoken?
18:01It's called the Jeremy...
18:03What?
18:04She didn't stop lying.
18:04Who's lying?
18:06Right, hold on.
18:07Backstage, be quiet.
18:09Welcome...
18:16Could I at least speak to her before you say...
18:18No, she doesn't expect my daughter at all.
18:20She hasn't said anything yet.
18:21I don't do what she said.
18:21I do care.
18:22Let her speak, then you...
18:23Sorry.
18:24No, I don't.
18:25No.
18:25Do it, little tramp.
18:26She's a dick.
18:27She's a daughter.
18:28I don't care.
18:29I'm walking your daughter.
18:29I don't care.
18:30I don't care.
18:30She's a dick out before.
18:31You've just called your daughter a dirty little tramp.
18:35She learnt it from me.
18:36Not from me.
18:37She doesn't know me.
18:38She has to speak.
18:40You're a squarewax.
18:41You're a squarewax.
18:42Is that your dad?
18:43You're a squarewax.
18:44You're a squarewax.
18:47That is a big man.
18:48Come on.
18:48Come on.
18:50Come on, big man.
18:51Who are you shouting at?
18:53I'm here.
18:53So you're supporting your mother?
18:55Yeah, I am supporting me more than...
18:57Don't you be quiet a minute.
18:57You haven't...
18:58That's extraordinary.
18:59The guest doesn't said anything.
19:00Everybody else has been shouting.
19:02You just...
19:03Would it be alright...
19:04Would it be alright if I spoke to your bird before you kicked off?
19:08Sit down and be quiet.
19:09Thank you very much.
19:11Everybody just shut up so I try and get in.
19:12I've had a very stressful morning.
19:14Right.
19:15You were here before.
19:16You were with a bloke.
19:17She didn't like your bloke.
19:18You've left that bloke now.
19:20You're with another one.
19:21You say,
19:21My mother will never, ever accept anybody I bring home.
19:26And you know what?
19:27It's just a nightmare.
19:29In fact, she's made me homeless.
19:31Speak to me.
19:31She's made me homeless.
19:33Why?
19:33Because she doesn't feel like...
19:35She just doesn't want me with her at all.
19:37Tell my team that when you were home, she treated you like a slave.
19:40She slapped you around the face and gave you a black eye.
19:43No, she didn't.
19:44How do you know?
19:45I was there.
19:46I heard everything.
19:48Can I come to you in a minute or what?
19:50Yeah.
19:51Good.
19:51Because if you don't shut up, you're going, all right?
19:54Right.
19:54Fine enough.
19:55Well, then you won't be able to speak.
19:56Be quiet.
19:57No.
20:00You are saying that your parents don't want to treat you in the right way.
20:04Whatever bloke you're with is no good.
20:06Why such venom from them?
20:08Your own dad just said something appalling about his own daughter.
20:13Why do you think, in your words, they're trying to push you out?
20:17The reason why they're pushing me out is because they choose my brother over me.
20:20You say that it's a bit rich, the way she discusses your life and your lifestyle,
20:25when you know for a fact that your mother, Sharon, has cheated on your father.
20:31Yeah.
20:31How do you know that?
20:32Because I've heard.
20:35Heard from who?
20:36I've heard from people.
20:37You're not really selling it to me that you're...
20:40No, no, no, wait.
20:41Are you happy in your new relationship?
20:42Yes, I am happy.
20:43Do you want a relationship with your parents?
20:45Are you here to say...
20:46I mean, you told my team, I want my stuff back.
20:48They've kept your stuff.
20:48Yes, they've kept my stuff, yeah.
20:50So they threw you out.
20:51You're 20 years of age.
20:53They threw you out and kept your stuff.
20:55Yeah.
20:55Nice.
20:57There's a Facebook message, isn't there?
20:59Your dad is not too pleased with you because you have not paid your bills
21:01and he said you're not having your stuff back.
21:03That's blackmail.
21:04No, it's not, Kayleigh.
21:05If you want to tell people a little lies, then I can do what I please.
21:08So suddenly I'll have a horrible life with Mr Squarehead.
21:11That's your own mother.
21:12This is Sharon on the Jeremy Kyle show, that way.
21:25You haven't respected my property at all, Kayleigh.
21:29No, I haven't kicked you out.
21:31Sorry, can I ask you something?
21:33That's how you treat your kid, is it?
21:35Yes, it has.
21:35You vile, disgusting woman.
21:37That's your daughter.
21:38What do you mean?
21:39Your daughter?
21:40Daughter!
21:41She hasn't been a daughter since last day.
21:43You didn't like her last boyfriend.
21:45Shut up or you will go.
21:47She hasn't got no respect at all.
21:48She's got no respect towards her daughter.
21:50And my boyfriend comes to my property, right?
21:53Dottie's on the phone.
21:53Can I get him out?
21:54Can you get me a check?
21:58No, you f***ing kids are watching me laugh.
22:01For number one, you're the one who's trying to f***.
22:03No, I have.
22:04Yes, you have.
22:05You have.
22:06No, you have.
22:07No, you have.
22:07Because I'm telling it on the phone.
22:09Because.
22:10No, it is.
22:10Telling it on the phone.
22:11That's all birds.
22:12No, it's asking.
22:13Do you have to get in?
22:14Do you quid?
22:16It's you.
22:18No, you can square it.
22:20You can square it.
22:20You can square it.
22:21You can square it.
22:21Do you want to just give me?
22:22Do you want to just give me?
22:24And you always jump like s**t.
22:25Do you want me?
22:26No one at this.
22:28It's you.
22:29Excuse me.
22:30Oi, do me a f**k.
22:31Be quiet, be quiet.
22:32Dallas.
22:33What's with you?
22:34Oi, be quiet.
22:35No, I'm.
22:36Get the chairs.
22:38Sit there.
22:39Telling me if you have.
22:40No, I'm.
22:41Josh, your dog.
22:42Just tell it.
22:43And you're telling me, hang on, and you're telling me, you're going back to me, back to me, and I'll
22:50get your shorty out.
22:51So you're making threats now?
22:53You just went out.
22:55Sit there and be quiet.
22:57I think you are one of the most disgusting mothers I've ever seen in my life.
23:00You're kicking your d*** up.
23:02Get off, get off.
23:03Not you.
23:08I'm going to go to a break.
23:09I have to tell you, in 11 years of doing this, you ever seen a mother come out, drop her
23:12daughter stuff, and just kick it?
23:14In all of your testosterone moment, and those two vile parents, she's done a runner because she's that upset.
23:19I'm going to calm it down.
23:20I'm back in a minute.
23:21You cannot tell me, seriously, that that is how you treat a daughter.
23:26You're telling me it's okay to wish your daughter dead.
23:29I don't give a monkey.
23:31What do you think of a child's father, your daughter, being wished dead?
23:36Go on.
23:37The way she's dead.
23:37So you wish her dead as well?
23:40Well, sometimes, yeah.
23:52Welcome back.
23:52Before the break, I'm in all sorts of bedlam.
23:54We started with Kayleigh.
23:57Before I bring her parents out, just out of interest, right, quit the threats, quit the gobbiness, look at me.
24:05How in the name of God do two parents treat a kid like that?
24:11She's come out, the mother, thrown all of her stuff down here.
24:14This is a girl who came here a year ago and was lambasted about her last boyfriend.
24:19She's been thrown out of her home.
24:22She's had her stuff thrown across the stage here.
24:24She's with you.
24:26What is the reason for this?
24:28Well, what it is, yeah, is just because I'm with Kayleigh, yeah, she's...
24:32Her mum's jealous because we're going out, yeah.
24:35And just because...
24:36Why is she so dreadful to her daughter?
24:38Because she's saying to her mum, well, her mum's saying to Kayleigh, she's kicking her out of the line.
24:43She's coming to me crying.
24:44So what I've had to do, I've had to get her, I've had to get her, like, her hotel for
24:49four days and have Kayleigh...
24:51So in your mind, this girl is being ostracised by her parents?
24:54Right, stop.
24:56Craig, if you do what you did last time, you'll be out of this building.
24:59Just come out here because I want to hear your side.
25:02Get Craig the dad on the Jeremy Kyle show, please, now.
25:11You say it's him, right, but a year ago, she didn't like the last boyfriend and I took your side.
25:21You cannot tell me, seriously, that that is how you treat a daughter.
25:26Does she treat my house, right?
25:29You wished her dead.
25:30Yeah, that's true, right.
25:31That's your daughter.
25:33That's disgusting.
25:34Would you allow your daughter, when you're away on holiday, to have a strange bloke in your house, sleep with
25:39them, alright, and then go and move on and move in with somebody else?
25:42Do you want me to be perfectly honest?
25:42Yes.
25:43And you won't like what I'm going to say, right?
25:45I would have educated my daughter and told her that she couldn't do that.
25:48And more than anything, whatever my kids do, I wouldn't be on national television throwing their possessions at them and
25:54thinking it was alright to say I wished them dead.
25:56You haven't had a daughter, you haven't had a daughter, you haven't had a daughter, right?
26:01When you're away, have a strange bloke.
26:02Do you think it's okay to wish your daughter dead?
26:06I don't give a monkey's f***.
26:07Oh, here we go.
26:08I'll slap you one.
26:09Oh, you're making sense.
26:10Here we go.
26:11Here comes a monkey's daughter.
26:12Here we go.
26:14No, it's our daughter.
26:15She didn't have you on the f***.
26:18She didn't have you on the f***.
26:20It's f*** down.
26:21No, it's not a f***.
26:23Get rid of f***.
26:24Get out of here.
26:25Go.
26:25No, it's not a f***.
26:27No, it's not a f***.
26:28No, it's not a f***.
26:30You got to my house?
26:31You're swearing you're treating it like a f***.
26:33Who's the one who wakes with a spatula across the f***?
26:36Spatched me across the head of a boke.
26:37No, it's not a f***.
26:39Can you want a f***?
26:40It doesn't matter.
26:41I'm going to find this funny.
26:42You f***.
26:44And I've folks already f***.
26:46What the f***?
26:47I'll tell you what, she's crying.
26:48Kayleigh tells her loads of lies.
26:50Kayleigh tells her loads of lies.
26:52I'm talking about this, man.
26:54I'm talking about this, man.
26:54I'm talking about this.
26:56Do me a favour.
26:57Another word.
26:57Sit down.
26:58Sit down.
26:59Be quiet.
26:59Look at me.
27:02Be quiet.
27:03Look at me.
27:04You're a f***.
27:05Oh, that's nice language.
27:07What did she just say?
27:09I'm not repeating it.
27:12Explain one thing to me.
27:14Not your husband.
27:15How can you possibly...
27:17Look at me.
27:17You gave birth to a child...
27:20Oh, no, I'm worried, Dad.
27:21Look at you.
27:22She's your daughter.
27:24It's disgusting.
27:25Yes!
27:25Daughty?
27:26Do you understand what you call it?
27:28Well, maybe if you'd done a better job, her life wouldn't be in the toilet.
27:32Well, you obviously didn't, did you?
27:33Yes, I did.
27:34How?
27:35Yes!
27:36I never dreaded her.
27:37I brought her.
27:38This is how she repays me.
27:40Repays me?
27:40How?
27:41I haven't heard what she's done yet.
27:43No, you haven't...
27:43Tell me, then.
27:44What has she done?
27:45She doesn't...
27:46She doesn't respect me property.
27:48She had sex in your house with a bloke.
27:49Yeah, with another bloke.
27:50And that's enough to ostracise her, make her homeless and throw her stuff.
27:53No, she didn't.
27:54And wish her death...
27:55You threw her out.
27:56No, we haven't.
27:57Yes, sir.
27:57No, we haven't.
27:58You lied.
27:58No, we haven't.
28:00Just shut your mouth.
28:02You're supposed to be here.
28:04No, I just finished...
28:05Shut your mouth, you're supposed to be here.
28:06I just feel sorry.
28:07You shut your mouth, you're supposed to be here.
28:08I feel sorry.
28:09I feel sorry.
28:09I feel what I'm saying, right?
28:11No, it's...
28:12Shut up, shut up, shut up.
28:13Look at this.
28:14Answer this.
28:14Shut up.
28:16Oi, mother of the...
28:18This.
28:18Oi, mother of the year.
28:20If you want to tell people they're lies, then you can do it, you please.
28:23So, what's it off and have a horrible life with Squarehead?
28:25Yeah.
28:26Your dad is not pleased with you because you have not paid your bills and he said you're not having
28:29your
28:29stuff back?
28:30Yeah.
28:31She's your daughter.
28:32She's your daughter.
28:33But there are boundaries and there are, of course, when people break those boundaries,
28:36you should tell them off.
28:37But I just want to question you and you won't listen to me.
28:40Wishing your own daughter dead.
28:42I haven't told her.
28:43That's what he said and you're alright with that, are you?
28:44I haven't told him dead.
28:46Sorry?
28:46I haven't told her dead.
28:48What did?
28:48He said, I wish my own daughter was dead.
28:51Yeah.
28:51So why are you telling me then?
28:52I'm asking you what you think of that.
28:54So why are you telling me then?
28:55What do you think of it?
28:56So why are you telling me, tell him then?
28:58I've...
28:58Sorry.
28:59Do you not understand this?
29:00Maybe that's why you're such a useless mother.
29:02What do you think of a child's father, your daughter, being wished dead?
29:06Go on.
29:06The way she's been?
29:08Oh my God.
29:10So you wish you're dead as well?
29:11Well, sometimes, yeah.
29:14You are absolutely...
29:16And you think you're clever, don't you?
29:17We're not horrible, no.
29:18You're not horrible.
29:18No, we're not horrible.
29:20Have you been there when she's been treating our blood?
29:22My children could do the worst thing and if I could look in the mirror and say I'd actually done
29:26right.
29:27Whatever.
29:27Do you want me telling you something?
29:28No, you don't need to.
29:29Do you know what?
29:30You don't know nothing, fat boy.
29:31You don't know nothing, fat boy.
29:32You don't know nothing.
29:33Get out of this.
29:34Alright.
29:34You know nothing.
29:36You're not nothing.
29:37You're not nothing.
29:38You're not nothing.
29:38You're a nutty boy.
29:40You don't care for that.
29:41You don't care for that.
29:42You always use my mother's Dussel.
29:45Yes, you do.
29:46Guys, I'm not.
29:48You're not such aнимit.
29:50I'm not.
29:59Get out of my building.
30:00Get out of my building and never come back, you fire.
30:09It's coming on me, listen, yes, but you can't go, he's just tried to kick you, I saw that.
30:15I know, I've been trying to get through a message and put her in a hotel for four days and
30:19her family's just been dead nasty.
30:21Now listen to me, listen to me, this is really, really important, okay, and I'm not going to say any
30:27more than this because even I'm shocked by that.
30:30If a parent can sit on a television programme and say, I wish my own daughter dead, I'm sure that
30:37people would tune into that and be utterly appalled.
30:42Now, I'm sure also you haven't been the Archangel Gabriel, who is. Did you disrespect them by having sex in
30:48their house?
30:49That's what?
30:50I'm going to put myself on the line here, I don't know what anybody else thinks watching this.
30:53I've got kids and I'm sure there are people watching this who at some point their kids have done that
30:57in their house.
30:58It's not right, it's disrespectful, et cetera, et cetera.
31:01Is that enough reason to sit and say, I wish my own kid dead?
31:07Now, the big problem you've got is, right, is you keep reacting to what they do and they want you
31:13to react.
31:14They want you to kick off.
31:15They want you to be what they think you are.
31:18And for me, and I kept saying it out there, amongst all that bedlam, if you want to be with
31:25him and if you want to do the right thing, do not lower yourself to that level.
31:31You remain calm.
31:33You do what you have to do in your life.
31:35I'm sorry, but I've never seen in 11 years such venom throwing the stuff.
31:40We're going to try, listen, I mean, you know, this is the remit, isn't it, of the Jeremy Kyle show,
31:44that we'll see if we can calm them down and get you to talk.
31:48Personally, I'm going to be really honest because that's how I've always done it.
31:50I think you'd be better off grabbing your boyfriend's hand, getting some help from us and heading in the opposite
31:56direction and building your life away from people who think that they can torture that.
32:01But, of course, we'll try and make it work.
32:02And that's what everybody with a brain cell thinks, right?
32:05But we'll do what we have to do, but if you decide at the end of the show that you
32:09just want to don't react to these people, all right?
32:14Listen, I'm going to go to a break.
32:15I mean, I've done quite a few stories, but I can't.
32:20And people come out and they say, my kid's done this, that and the other.
32:22I mean, they treat you like you're a murderer.
32:24I know, I just feel bad for her.
32:25Then be a man and don't react to their games.
32:29Let's talk to Aftercare.
32:30We're coming back after this break.
32:31We've got more sisters there at war.
32:32We're right back.
32:32Don't go anywhere.
32:33You okay there for a minute?
32:34Why won't you look at your own sister?
32:36Because I don't want nothing to do with any of them.
32:37You didn't come here to resolve it, then.
32:39You came here just to sell your sisters, yeah?
32:40I don't want nothing to do with any of them.
32:42Why did you all come?
32:43To try and resolve it.
32:44I don't care.
32:46I don't want nothing to do with any of them.
32:47You want to sit with Graham and talk to your sister?
32:49Sad.
32:50You'll get over it, all of you, as well.
32:52But will you?
32:53That's the big question.
33:18I don't want nothing to do with you.
33:23It's my life.
33:24Leave me alone.
33:25I love him.
33:26Jesse's on the show that way.
33:35People come out here sometimes and they look ready for it.
33:38I don't know what to say about you.
33:40It's an interesting story.
33:4222 years of age.
33:44Your sister Ivy, 27.
33:45Your sister Kelly, 29.
33:47Your sister Gemma, who's in the audience.
33:49Where's Gemma?
33:51You say, it's my boyfriend, it's my life.
33:55Shove what you think where the sun don't shine.
33:57How long have you been with Luke?
33:58Five years in March.
34:04I'm...
34:04God, it's difficult, isn't it?
34:06They say that this bloke is no good for you.
34:09Yeah.
34:10Let's deal with the facts.
34:11You've had three children taken off you in the time that you've been with this guy.
34:15Yeah.
34:16Why?
34:17Because of my family and their vicious lies.
34:21They say it's neglect, love.
34:22They say you've picked this monster over your own children.
34:26I'm only putting it to you because that's the way I do the show.
34:29Why would you lose your kids then and pick this bloke?
34:32I didn't choose Luke over my kids.
34:35It's...
34:35Hiya.
34:37I want to hear her first and you'll have your say.
34:39Go on.
34:40My family told that many vicious lies.
34:44They've never liked Luke.
34:45They've never wanted me to be with Luke.
34:47Why?
34:47I don't know.
34:49Now, interestingly, this bloke isn't here to defend you.
34:51Why is that?
34:52Because I don't need Luke.
34:54He says,
34:55Jess's family have tried to ruin my life as well as my relationship with Jess.
34:58They've never liked me from day one and even forced us both out of where we're living.
35:02Trouble started when Jess first fell pregnant and her family even offered to buy her baby
35:06offer.
35:07We have no end of trouble from them and we've both had enough.
35:10So, you love him?
35:11Yeah.
35:11What have you come here today to say, to do?
35:13Why are you here?
35:14I don't want anything to do with my sisters no more.
35:17I want them to stay away from me.
35:18I want them to stay out, Mum.
35:19Ivy who's out next.
35:20You say she's even paid for somebody to come and beat you up.
35:23She's a lying tramp.
35:24Ivy accused me of stealing out of her house.
35:27Which one's Ivy?
35:28This side.
35:29My mouth.
35:30And sent to come and attack me with a metal bar.
35:36This is family.
35:37Get you out.
35:38Ivy's on the show.
35:43You did that yourself.
35:46Nobody said to you.
35:47You did it yourself.
35:49You would give so much mouth.
35:51I got outside my mouth.
35:55You had the animation, Jess.
35:56You told me to come and do it.
35:58He got straight on the bike and went up to do it.
36:00And you as a sister should have told me not to.
36:03Well, no.
36:05In my house.
36:06Don't lie, Ivy.
36:07It's in your house.
36:08Ivy, what's the truth here?
36:09She says that you lot are ganging up against her.
36:12You tell my team it's a bit rich.
36:15She says I'm a bad mum.
36:16She's had her kids taken away from her and she's living with a monster.
36:19That's what you think?
36:20That's what she thinks.
36:21Is that not your sister looking out for you?
36:24I'm living with a monster.
36:25Well, yeah, Jessi, you've lost your kids with him.
36:29He's the one that's made you lose your kids.
36:31You've chosen over your kids.
36:33It's to do with you.
36:34It's not interfering in my life.
36:35Stop lying.
36:36You neglected them kids for him.
36:38Stop lying.
36:40Oh, I'm lying.
36:41It's your family's fault.
36:42You had your kids took off you, is it?
36:44None of you's like Luke.
36:45My team heard that Ivy said you're a drama queen, that you love the attention.
36:50This is what you do.
36:51That's right.
36:52Yeah.
36:53Did you steal from your sisters?
36:55No, I didn't.
36:55Yes, you did.
36:56And if I could, I would have done a lie detector.
36:58But she stole his birthday.
37:01Why can't you do a lie detector?
37:03Because I'm 36 weeks pregnant.
37:05Yeah, go on.
37:06Who's the father?
37:07Luke.
37:07And what's going to happen to the baby?
37:09You already know that, so don't even try asking.
37:10I actually genuinely don't.
37:12Of course not.
37:13What's happening to your baby?
37:15I don't know yet myself.
37:17Well, you do know, don't you?
37:18So you just played the game with me.
37:19I'll play it with you.
37:20What's going to happen to yet another child?
37:21Like I said, I don't know myself.
37:23The child's going to be taken off you, isn't it?
37:24It could be.
37:25Why would you not, at 22 years of age, even if it was the biggest injustice in the world,
37:32why would you stop?
37:33Why would you even think about getting pregnant again?
37:35Why would you not stop this relationship and go, do you know what?
37:38Even if I have to swallow hardship for two years, I'm going to get my kids back because
37:44they are more important than Luke.
37:47Even if it's made up.
37:49Yes, it is.
37:50No, it's not.
37:51Right.
37:51Okay.
37:51So why is that child?
37:53The fact that I'm here today, right, is to tell my sister to butt up my life.
37:56I never got involved when she...
37:59What's that got to do with...
38:01Nothing to do with this.
38:02This was many years ago.
38:03I'm not going to get involved.
38:05No relationship.
38:06I've not got involved in Kelly.
38:09This was years ago.
38:10No, it wasn't at all.
38:10No reason bringing that up.
38:11Well, I just did, didn't I?
38:12Well, I disowned you to get you started off of your own...
38:15Well, good, I disowned you for that long before that.
38:18No, no, no, I'm not having no more.
38:19Can I get Kelly, the other sister on the Jeremy Kyle show, please?
38:25Kelly...
38:27You're a thief and you need to stop...
38:31Hi, Jeremy.
38:32I'm a thief.
38:33Yes, you are.
38:34You've even stole off of me in the past, Jessica.
38:36I haven't...
38:37I have.
38:38You've never had anything to steal, Kelly.
38:39You're all right, Jess.
38:40You're a liar as well.
38:41You need to stop...
38:42All right.
38:43What am I lying about this time?
38:44Everything.
38:45Oh, the fact that my mother was never there for me.
38:49Mum's been there for every one of us.
38:50Oh, she told us that your mother offered to buy the baby offer.
38:53There's a load of...
38:55..Kellene, you know it.
38:56It's a load of...
38:57..Sicka.
38:57The day that I needed my mum and my sisters...
39:00Your mum is Carol, yeah?
39:01I've got a statement from Carol.
39:03Since Luke has been in a relationship with Jess,
39:05he's caused nothing but trouble for my family.
39:07I'm sick of her abuse and her calling me a bad mum
39:10when all I've ever done is to try and be there for her.
39:12I know Luke is no good for Jess
39:13and I do know, whatever she might say,
39:15that her life would be a lot better without him.
39:17Isn't it true that you're so selfish
39:19and so self-deluded about parenting,
39:23this woman can't have kids
39:24and you throw it in her face every five minutes?
39:26No, I don't at all.
39:27I throw it in your face once.
39:28Yes, you do.
39:28Yes, you do, Jessica.
39:29I throw it in your face once.
39:31Listen, you got one of your friends to message me
39:33loads of positive pregnancy tests, yeah,
39:36taking the...
39:37..out of me, laughing at me.
39:38No, I cannot have children and you lot can.
39:41Well, I'll tell you what, darling,
39:41I reckon you're a better mother.
39:43You don't have children.
39:43She pops them out wherever
39:44and they get taken off.
39:45But the truth of the matter is
39:46you shouldn't keep having children.
39:48You should fight for the ones that you haven't got.
39:51Don't you think that's true?
39:55Is he really that important to you, is he?
39:57I'll tell you what he is.
39:58He's a gutless dog
39:58because he wouldn't come here and face it, would he?
40:00That tells you everything.
40:01No, I approve my point from London, yeah?
40:05Because all that you've got, you've got to say I can't do nothing
40:08without Luke standing right there at the side of me.
40:11And you can't?
40:11No, because you didn't want me, you wanted Luke.
40:14No.
40:15Yes, yes.
40:16We wanted you, Jessica,
40:17because you're the one that stole off Ivy.
40:19I didn't steal off of Ivy.
40:21When I needed my sisters,
40:23Tell them.
40:23there was nowhere that,
40:24none of yous was there.
40:26Really?
40:26All right then, Kelly.
40:28We didn't try and be there for you.
40:29When I went to court to fight for my children,
40:31where were you?
40:32Where was any of yous?
40:33You wasn't even speaking to us, Jess.
40:34Why didn't you come here today?
40:35To fight against me.
40:36Ivy, why'd you come?
40:36I come to disown her.
40:38I don't want nothing to do with any of yous.
40:41It's all got to start.
40:42You've all ruined my life.
40:43Listen to your eldest sister.
40:45You don't want to.
40:45It's not doing any of us any good, Jess.
40:47Mum's not well.
40:48It's not helping her.
40:49Oh, no, I got blamed for a heart attack as well.
40:51Nobody blamed you for that.
40:53Yes, I did.
40:54Why did you come then?
40:55Let's turn it around.
40:55Why did you come?
40:56Because I don't want nothing to do with anybody.
40:58I don't believe any of you.
40:59I don't believe that the emotion that's being shown
41:01would be anywhere.
41:03You told my team, Gemma, in the audience,
41:05I'm not even looking at you,
41:06that you're different to this other lot.
41:07You want to build bridges and make this work.
41:10Why?
41:12Because she's my sister and I love her.
41:13Can you put a chair next to her?
41:15Can you come here, please?
41:16Sit here.
41:19I don't want to do anything.
41:21Did you hear what she just said?
41:23Yeah, but I don't care.
41:24You do care, darling, because you wouldn't be crying.
41:27Say it again, Gemma.
41:28She's my sister and I love her.
41:31You love me that much that you interfere in everything I do.
41:34There's a line, isn't there, between interference and care.
41:36I'm being completely serious.
41:38You care, right?
41:39Yeah.
41:40What did she feel like when she lost her three kids?
41:43It was heartbreaking.
41:45Devastating.
41:45Yeah.
41:46All right, then where was any of you when I nearly died in hospital
41:49giving birth to my son?
41:50Look at your sister, Gemma.
41:51You just cared about my kids then.
41:53Look at your sister, Gemma.
41:53Look at your sister, Gemma.
41:53You really stood away all the time.
41:55You push us away every time.
41:57No, you did.
41:58Tell you all I was there.
42:00Talk to your sister, Gemma.
42:02Look at her.
42:02No.
42:05Why wouldn't you look at your own sister?
42:07Because I don't want nothing to do with any of them.
42:09Gemma, you said you wanted to build bridges.
42:11How do you imagine that?
42:12Look at your sister.
42:13No.
42:14Not interested in any of them?
42:16No.
42:17Don't believe it for one second.
42:18Think it's bravado.
42:20All the **** has got to stop, Jessica.
42:22Well, it will do because I don't want none of yous in my life.
42:24What, until the next time you ring up and ask for money
42:26and then kick off with Mum again?
42:28I don't kick off with Mum, thank you.
42:29I kicked off with Mum.
42:30Why didn't you come here today?
42:31You're saying that you came here.
42:33They'll say, you didn't come here to resolve it,
42:36then you came here to just disown your sisters, yeah?
42:37I don't want nothing to do with any of them.
42:39And you three did what?
42:40Why did you all come?
42:41To try and resolve it.
42:42And you came to resolve it.
42:44But why aren't you meeting them halfway?
42:45Because they've ruined my life.
42:47I don't want nothing to do with any of them.
42:48He's even from a distance.
42:49He's got you right where he wants you, hasn't he, old Lukey boy?
42:52How has he got me where I want you?
42:53Because you're a robot, mate.
42:55Jess, we used to be so close.
42:56You've got three sisters' blood on this stage
42:57that want to say to you, look.
42:58We used to be so close till she gave birth.
43:01That's it.
43:01Jess got pushed aside.
43:03How?
43:03Don't.
43:04You moved to...
43:06Same time?
43:07Yeah.
43:08Yeah?
43:08Got in with the wrong crowd.
43:09Jess gets pushed aside.
43:11We've never been close, Kelly.
43:12Jess, you're the one that came with me
43:14when I found out I couldn't have kids.
43:17No, I didn't.
43:18Yes, you did.
43:18No, I didn't.
43:19Yes, you did, because you saw the state I was in
43:20when I came out of the doctor's room.
43:22I never came with you.
43:23Yes, you did, Jessica.
43:24So don't tell me we've never been close.
43:26So I've got to...
43:26I don't know what I'm supposed to say.
43:28You want nothing to do with your sisters?
43:30No, I don't.
43:31Then that's it.
43:31You're absolutely sure?
43:32Yeah, I don't.
43:33Do you not think that's sad?
43:34You're going to walk through that door,
43:35go back to Luke and that's it?
43:37I don't care.
43:38I don't want nothing to do with any of it.
43:40You're going to sit with Graham and talk to your sisters?
43:42You're going to go?
43:42Yeah.
43:43Right, we're done then.
43:44That's quite sad.
43:45Bye.
43:45You'll get over it, all of you as well.
43:47But will you?
43:48That's the big question.
43:52It's difficult, isn't it?
43:53It's real.
43:54Yep.
43:55Do me a favour, though.
43:57I know, led by you, just try and leave the door open
44:00because you never know what happens, do you?
44:01I know you're angry and all that stuff,
44:03but try and leave the door open.
44:05But nice to meet you.
44:05If you all go that way, all right?
44:06Thanks a lot.
44:07Give me a round of applause, guys.
44:08Thank you very much.
44:12Sad, to be honest, to think those sisters are looking out for her,
44:15but she's got a mindset.
44:16She wants to be with that bloat.
44:17It's about the fact she's lost the kids.
44:18We'll do our best to get them to talk.
44:20We'll let you know.
44:21Now, you might remember before I finish earlier,
44:23me chatting to Kaylee and her parents, Craig,
44:24and Sharon, to be fair,
44:26some of the most disgusting things I've ever heard
44:28for a parent to say, both of them,
44:29I wish you dead to their own daughter.
44:32Now, the remit on the show is really simple.
44:34We want to try and get people together.
44:36I don't want to do this,
44:37but I know that you came here
44:38because you want some sort of closure.
44:40So we are going to attempt to go to one of the green rooms,
44:43and the only reason I'm going to do it
44:44is to give them one chance to apologise
44:47for what they said and the way they treated you.
44:49Find some common ground and chat.
44:50You all right with that?
44:51Yeah.
44:51Come and me.
44:52I'm going that way.
44:53Do you want me to come?
44:53Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:54Bring her.
44:54Look after her.
44:55Don't shout.
44:56Don't respond.
44:57Nicely.
44:58Just...
44:58Just...
44:59Play that.
45:00Just be...
45:00I shouldn't say be the bigger man.
45:02You're only two foot six,
45:02but you know what I mean?
45:03Just...
45:03You know what I'm saying, right?
45:05Yeah.
45:06I can do this on the bigger man, I know.
45:07Face to you.
45:08Which is what we're on Facebook page
45:10about these little shoes she's got.
45:11Are you going to apologise
45:12for wishing your daughter dead?
45:14Yes, I will.
45:14I'm sorry.
45:15You will?
45:16Yeah, I will.
45:17Yeah, I will.
45:18Sit down.
45:18Kaylee, but not him.
45:20They've apologised.
45:21I want to see it.
45:22Sorry, Kaylee, I didn't mean one man.
45:25But you've got to respect us.
45:26You've got to learn to respect Kaylee.
45:28All right, let's just...
45:28Let's just not do a double whammy.
45:30Can I just ask one thing
45:31before we finish, right?
45:34Graham, this is what he does.
45:36I totally get...
45:38And you'd get me wrong if you didn't.
45:39Sit here, one sec.
45:39Come here.
45:41I totally understand.
45:43Stop looking at him.
45:44Sharon, look at me.
45:45Shaz.
45:47Shaz.
45:47It's your daughter.
45:48I know she's my daughter.
45:49Then calm down.
45:51Calm down.
45:52This isn't for me.
45:53This is for Graham.
45:54The remit of the show is simple.
45:56To get this out in a controlled environment
45:57and do our best to get you together.
45:59Anybody can see
46:01that there's a lot of emotion here, Graham, right?
46:03Yeah.
46:03Now, her choice of boyfriend
46:04will not always be your choice
46:05and you have to respect their house, okay?
46:08But can we just agree
46:10that the aftercare team
46:12can spend a bit of time
46:13trying to find some common ground?
46:15Yeah.
46:15May I give you some advice?
46:16Look at me.
46:19Parents have rules.
46:21You break those.
46:22There are consequences.
46:24Kids make mistakes.
46:26But I'm glad I came back now
46:27because I want to say something to you.
46:30You gave birth to her.
46:31Not him.
46:32No, not with him.
46:32No, no, no, no.
46:33And you might not approve
46:34of some of the things
46:35that she's done quite rightly.
46:37But part of being a parent
46:39is you stick by them
46:40and you try and make them better people
46:42and that's what it's about, all right?
46:44I appreciate the apology.
46:46I hope that Graham can find some common ground.
46:48And whether you like the boyfriend or not...
46:50Oh, no, I won't be there.
46:50Hear me out, hear me out.
46:52The more you hang him off,
46:53the more she'll stay with him.
46:54This is about you three.
46:55Now, I have to finish,
46:56but I want you to speak to Graham
46:57and I want the three of you to try, all right?
46:59Give him a round of applause, guys.
47:01Good luck, Kayleigh.
47:04And that is the remit of the show, you know?
47:06I don't have to...
47:07I mean, there's no way on God's earth
47:08I like what they said to that girl
47:10and I'm sure she's done things
47:11that they aren't happy about.
47:13They have to find some common ground.
47:15That's their daughter.
47:16They are her parents.
47:18Let's see what we can do in Aftercare.
47:19We'll let you know.
47:20I am for this morning out of time.
47:21Don't forget, if you want to be on my show,
47:22you need my help, visit my website.
47:24The details are on screen right now.
47:25To my guests, to this audience
47:26and to you four watching home,
47:27I'll see you very soon.
47:28Take care.
47:28Bye-bye.
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